Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 69 “The Happiest Place in the NBA”

It’s official, Disney saves the NBA season. Or at least some form of an NBA season that will be played out at Disney’s Wide World of Sports in Florida. We also have an update on when Disneyland in California will reopen and the rules surrounding that reopening. And finally in Disney Detective we take a look at an update on our much anticipated Marvel shows WandaVision and Falcon and Winter Soldier.

Star Wars Insights take a walk down memory lane with a peak at how the original triology could have looked much different had different casting calls been made. Can you picture Al Pacino at Han Solo? Or William Katt as Luke Skywalker. It would certainly have been a very different movie. Then Jon Favreau gives us an update on Season 2 of the Mandalorian to get us through these dark times.

In Entertainment News we’ll take a look at Don Henley and his appeal to Congrats to change copyright law. As innocent as this may seem there could be far reaching consequences affecting every aspect of the internet, especially independent podcasters like us. We’ll watch the development of this story with great interest.

We’ll finish up with a couple of great Insightful Picks of the Week as we always do for another great show.

Check out our recently published article on this subject available now on Medium.com.

Show Notes

  • Introduction
    • Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 69 “The happiest place in the NBA”
    • My entertaining and informative co-host Michelle Whalen
  • Disney Detective
    • NBA owners approve 22-team season restart plan
    • https://apnews.com/dde03d4960f5ef9a8d1549f59b27b99c?fbclid=IwAR24ZeCsUH_v35gCRaz0ipLGNXGuVpBo9drJtwIEJGnrzVVgeWZ_o0WQiq0
    • https://bit.ly/2UbCDXh 
      • The NBA took a major step toward getting back on the court Thursday, with the league’s Board of Governors approving a 22-team format for restarting the league season next month at the Disney campus near Orlando, Florida.
      • Teams would arrive at Disney around July 7 and play an eight-game slate of games starting July 31 at the ESPN Wide World Of Sports complex. All teams will stay, practice and play at Disney and the NBA Finals will likely stretch into October.
      • The eight-game slate — it’s unclear if they will be classified as regular season games — will help determine playoff seeding. From there, the league could have a play-in tournament for the final spot in the Eastern Conference and Western Conference postseason fields.
      • There are numerous other details to continue working through, including finalizing specifics of what the testing plan at Disney will entail and calculating the financial ramifications of playing fewer games.
      • “The NBA is taking all the appropriate measures, and working tirelessly to provide a safe environment for our team and staff,” the Dallas Mavericks said in a statement.
      • While working to finish this season, the league also has made decisions on next season — with the draft lottery rescheduled for Aug. 25, the draft on Oct. 15 and opening night for the 2020-21 campaign is tentatively set for Dec. 1. 
      • The 22 Disney-bound clubs would play somewhere between 71 and 75 games before the playoffs begin, down from the customary 82-game slate. The teams who didn’t qualify for the restart will see their seasons end after having played somewhere between 64 and 67 games.
      • Roughly 15% of what would have been the full NBA regular season won’t be played, which means players stand to lose around $600 million in salary. How that process will work is among the issues that the league and union are still working to solve.
      • But one of the biggest hurdles is now cleared, in an NBA season like none other. The league is planning for the same playoff rules as usual, that being every round utilizing a best-of-seven format.
      • The 22-team plan includes all teams that were holding playoff spots when the season was stopped, plus all other clubs within six games of a berth.
      • Milwaukee, the Los Angeles Lakers, Boston and reigning NBA champion Toronto had already clinched playoff berths. Now with only eight games remaining for each team, it means that eight other clubs — Miami, Indiana, Philadelphia, the Los Angeles Clippers, Denver, Utah, Oklahoma City and Houston — have postseason spots secured, and Dallas virtually has one as well.
      • That leaves nine teams vying for three remaining playoff berths. In the East, Brooklyn, Orlando and Washington are in the race for two spots. In the West, Memphis, Portland, New Orleans, Sacramento, San Antonio and Phoenix will jostle for one spot.
      • For Atlanta, Cleveland, New York, Golden State, Minnesota, Detroit, Chicago and Charlotte, the season is over. 
    • Will Disneyland Reopen Soon? We Have New Information
    • https://www.gamespot.com/amp-articles/will-disneyland-reopen-soon-we-have-new-informatio/1100-6477726/?fbclid=IwAR2G5guaoKb1Pe2M88BxmM-K0qMPtz13lA2uXLZ0us6K-F2QTAOXE76gGbA
    • https://bit.ly/30ep11b 
      • According to the OC Register, the state of California has decided theme parks will be able to open once again during Stage 3 of the government’s four-stage process to reopening the economy. Of course, that’s dependent on the state’s COVID-19 infection rate remaining stable.
      • As for when that will happen, California governor Gavin Newsom hinted earlier in May that could happen sooner than you expect. “Phase 3 is not a year away. It’s not six months away. It’s not even three months away. It may not even be more than a month away,” he previously said during a press briefing. “We just want to make sure we have a protocol in place to secure customer safety, employee safety and allow the businesses to thrive in a way that is sustainable.”
      • Newsom has pointed to June 3 as a potential date for shifting into Stage 3.
      • Disneyland and Disney California Adventure aren’t the only theme parks that would be allowed to open under Stage 3. Others, like Universal Studios Hollywood, Knott’s Berry Farm, Magic Mountain, and Legoland would also fall into that category. Thus far, none of those parks have announced any plans for reopening.
      • In fact, the only major domestic theme parks that are currently scheduled to open are those at the Universal Orlando Resort–Universal Studios Orlando, Islands of Adventure, and Volcano Bay. All three parks are slated to reopen on June 5, with new guidelines in place.
    • “WandaVision,” “Falcon and Winter Soldier” Reportedly Releasing Half Season on Disney+
    • https://insidethemagic.net/2020/06/disney-plus-marvel-shows-half-season-tm1/?fbclid=IwAR3TXKaq8D1ocPxpF-9aPhWI-hG5qbV8bL-jB0gdMTzaKHDAgxlEk4TYwN8
    • https://bit.ly/2Bxkj4e 
      • It appears that Disney+ subscribers will still get Marvel shows like Loki, WandaVision, and The Falcon and the Winter Soldier on time. Just not as much of it as they were previously expecting.
      • According to Disney+ Help, The Falcon and The Winter Soldier is still scheduled to get a Fall 2020 release, and WandaVision is still scheduled for a December 2020 release. But it is rumored that they will not be released in their entirety.
      • Reports made public by YouTuber Grace Randolph indicate that Marvel’s The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and WandaVision will be released on Disney+ with a half-season. Disney+’s reasoning is reportedly that it is starved of new content and cannot afford to wait until filming and post-production can be completed on the rest of the season. Loki is also rumored to face the same fate. Each show’s season is expected to have six to eight episodes, meaning a half-season would give subscribers three to four episodes.
      • Neither Disney nor Marvel have made an official statement on this matter.
  • Star Wars Insights
    • See how Star Wars nearly looked, with the cast it was meant to have
    • https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a796908/star-wars-original-cast/?fbclid=IwAR0-p6iPxFbNK9t-4w0XZT-rzKsU4b3wLa7QPHkTy-yrmmzIChR2Y0nAd4k
    • https://bit.ly/30bGbfX 
      • Star Wars is packed full of legendary actors, perfectly cast: Harrison Ford. Carrie Fisher. Alex McCrindle. (He played General Dodonna.) Yet it nearly wasn’t so.
      • Before it was shot, Star Wars was famously so low on studio 20th Century Fox’s agenda that they gave George Lucas the merchandising and sequel rights in lieu of salary, thinking they’d save themselves $350k. (Whoops! They lost out on $1.6billion.)
      • Little wonder then that loads of the 70s’ biggest stars turned their noses up at the chance to play second fiddle to a walking carpet…
    • Han Solo: Al Pacino
      • “It was mine for the taking but I didn’t understand the script,” Pacino later said.
      • Fair enough, he was the hottest actor on the block and could do what he liked. In The Godfather, he got to deliver immortal lines like, “I’m gonna make him an offer he can’t refuse”.
      • Still, he could have got to say, “Get in there, you big furry oaf! I don’t care what you smell!”, so who’s to say he made the right call?
    • Han Solo again: James Caan
      • Pacino’s Godfather co-star was even sniffier about turning down the role, saying, “They didn’t want an actor, that’s why they got Harrison Ford”.
      • We’re sure Harrison was gutted that he went on to make the Indiana Jones films, Blade Runner and The Fugitive instead of Mickey Blue Eyes.
      • Plenty of other actors auditioned for the role – Sylvester Stallone claims Lucas never even looked at him during his tryout, while Kurt Russell, Christopher Walken, Nick Nolte and even Freddy Krueger himself, Robert Englund all had a pop.
      • Englund was too young for the role, but he did suggest to Mark Hamill (“this kid who was sleeping on my sofa after a six-pack of beer”) that he try out for Luke Skywalker. And look how that turned out.
    • Princess Leia: Jodie Foster
      • “I was doing two films back-to-back at the time,” Foster said (presumably referring to Taxi Driver and Bugsy Malone). “It would have been fun. But my career would have been different and I’m happy with the one I’ve got so I don’t really regret it.
      • “And honestly, I was 14 or 15 at the time and it was when they were still conceiving those characters as very young. By the time they got to making it, they had a totally different conception of the film.”
      • Which is kind of a relief, even though Jodie Foster is an amazing actress. No one wants to see a romance between Harrison Ford and someone nearly twenty years his junior. Except in real life, obviously.
    • Grand Moff Tarkin: Christopher Lee
      • The dark lord of everything wasn’t interested in playing the biggest of the Death Star’s bigwigs, but he did suggest his good Hammer friend and on-screen nemesis Peter Cushing for the role.
      • Lucas finally persuaded him to join the Dark Side for Attack of the Clones, in which he played Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus.
    • Luke Skywalker: William Katt
      • William who? How soon people forget Big Wednesday and The Greatest American Hero.
      • Katt had some corn-fed, boy-next-door buzz going for him in the mid 70s thanks to the likes of Carrie, but Mark Hamill ultimately had more of what George Lucas was looking for.
      • But you can still see his audition, alongside Kurt Russell as Han…
      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=79XY3d6-tiY&feature=emb_logo
    • Obi-Wan Kenobi: Toshiro Mifune
      • Obi-Wan’s Japanese-sounding name makes more sense now, yes?
      • In the ultimate case of fanboy wishlist casting, George Lucas was a huge devotee of Akira Kurosawa epics like Rashomon and Seven Samurai, and wanted the Japanese director’s favourite leading man to play a part in his own project.
      • Mifune’s daughter claimed that her father – who Lucas also offered the role of Darth Vader – was worried that Lucas would make the samurai ethos look “cheap”.
    • Jon Favreau Offers ‘The Mandalorian’ Season 2 Update
    • https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/jon-favreau-offers-mandalorian-season-2-update-1265042?fbclid=IwAR3v_Ns3mCeA7zMGOV9wYTRdGhnJCLMqIEJEH38DKm3jiNLiCVBwCTjLJ1Y
    • https://bit.ly/3dzWM0N 
      • The coronavirus pandemic shut down film and TV productions around the world, but The Mandalorian remains on track to debut season two in October on Disney+.
      • “We were lucky enough to have finished photography before the lock down,”  executive producer Jon Favreau said during a virtual panel for the ATX Television Festival moderated by Vanity Fair’s Anthony Breznican. “Thanks to how technology-forward Lucasfilm and ILM are, we have been able to do all of our visual effects and editing and postproduction remotely through systems that had been set up by those companies for us.”
      • The Mandalorian stars Pedro Pascal as a mysterious bounty hunter inhabiting the Star Wars galaxy, with supporting castmembers including Gina Carano, Giancarlo Esposito and Carl Weathers. Over the past few months, details have leaked out about season two of the series, including the addition of actors Rosario Dawson, Timothy Olyphant, Temuera Morrison and Michael Biehn to the roster. Filmmakers taking on directing duties include series creator Favreau and executive producer Dave Filoni as well as Ant-Man’s Peyton Reed and Sin City’s Robert Rodriguez.
      • Favreau noted that due to the rigors of the TV schedule, season two feels like a continuation of season one rather than a new thing. 
      • “As we explore partnering with new filmmakers and having new characters and going deeper with the characters we already have, it’s really been very fun and fulfilling and I hope people are having as much fun seeing it as we are having making it,” Favreau said.
      • The filmmaker was joined by Mandalorian directors Filoni, Bryce Dallas Howard, Rick Famuyiwa, Deborah Chow and Taika Waititi. The latter two have other Star Wars projects in the works, with Chow set to director an Obi-Wan Kenobi Disney+ series, while Waititi is developing his own Star Wars film.
      • “It’s all finished, I’m done,” Waititi said, jokingly when asked about his film’s status. Added Chow of Obi-Wan, “We have a little more to do than that, but we are in development still.”
      • Disney+ does not release viewership data, but the first season of The Mandalorian made a big splash on the pop culture landscape. Baby Yoda became a surprise breakout character, and Disney’s Bob Iger has noted the show will go beyond season two and could even spin off characters into their own series.
  • Entertainment News
    • Eagles’ Don Henley asks Congress to change copyright law
    • https://apnews.com/23e26c38a9a6fbf3d7451c42b058c216?fbclid=IwAR0VNj8aIgnLhpFl3NFUyxazelCXKsR2fbHa2XudReAno8VA9_pyoUBi-mo
    • https://bit.ly/2XDGLRW 
      • Eagles songwriter Don Henley urged Congress on Tuesday to “Take It to the Limit” to protect artists against online pirating, wading into a copyright fight pitting Hollywood and the recording industry against big tech platforms like Google’s YouTube.
      • The blockbuster hitmaker of the 1970s testified online from his home before a Senate Judiciary subcommittee weighing possible changes to a 1998 copyright law. The law allows holders of copyrighted material to formally ask parties they believe have taken their content without permission to remove it. The parties can dispute the claim. If they comply promptly with the request, there are no legal consequences. Otherwise, they may be subject to criminal penalties.
      • Henley said the law is weak and needs to be changed to make it more effective in stopping online piracy.
      • The so-called “notice and takedown” system under the copyright law is used by the movie and recording industries, entertainment software makers and book authors to pursue tech platforms, universities and other facilitators of file-sharing.
      • Henley called the copyright law “a relic of a MySpace era in a TikTok world.” With hundreds of millions of takedown notices sent, for every link taken down, “a dozen more pop up in its place,” he said. The system “still allows Big Tech to rake in revenue” after repeated copyright infringements, Henley said.
      • The copyright battle is being spotlighted in Congress at a time when U.S. tech giants are in an escalating feud with President Donald Trump and Republican lawmakers, who accuse platforms such as Twitter, Google and Facebook of suppressing conservative viewpoints. 
      • In the debate over online pirating, the subcommittee chairman, Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., made his leanings clear. He said creative industries have been “absolutely decimated” by the economic fallout of the pandemic as well as online pirating of copyrighted material that hasn’t slowed down.
      • “Piracy has become easier and faster and much, much more common,” Tillis said. “The current system is failing and it’s failing badly.”
      • He confided that the first live music performance he saw, when he lived in Nashville, was the Eagles. The rock group, with Henley as singer, drummer and songwriter, produced some of the best-selling albums of all time in the 1970s.
      • The other senators who attended the hearing, Democrats Chris Coons of Delaware and Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, expressed support for changes to update the copyright law.
      • Copyright holders maintain that some network operators have manipulated internet-provider addresses in a way to make other networks appear responsible for the file-sharing. Entertainment industries have been pushing tech platforms to do more themselves to police content that violates copyright.
      • On the other side, users of the content have accused copyright holders of alleging infringement where it doesn’t exist. Internet companies say they have worked actively with the creative industries to block access to illegal content and protect the copyrights.
      • Jonathan Berroya, interim president and CEO of the major trade group Internet Association, testified that the “overwhelming majority” of copyright infringement takes place on foreign tech platforms outside the reach of U.S. law and is not conducted by U.S. companies.
      • Tech companies themselves are in a golden age of creating content and investing in others’ projects, Berroya said.
  • Insightful Picks
    • Michelle
    • Netflix
      • https://www.netflix.com/title/80209024
        • ‘A Secret Love’ – 2020 ‧ Documentary – A former baseball player keeps her lesbian relationship a secret from her family for seven decades.
        • A Secret Love is an 2020 American documentary film, directed by Chris Bolan. Ryan Murphy serves as a producer on the film, while Jason Blum serves as an executive producer under his Blumhouse Productions banner. It stars Terry Donahue and Pat Henschel.
      • When we first see Terry Donahue on screen in the documentary A Secret Love, the octogenarian is wearing a green t-shirt emblazoned with the words, “There’s No Crying in Baseball.” Movie fans know that cherished line of dialogue from A League of Their Own, the 1992 film based on the true story of the first women’s professional baseball league, founded during World War II.
      • There’s good reason Donahue is wearing that shirt. She was one the real-life athletes who played in the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League.
      • “One of the first things we did [for the documentary project] was we went to a reunion of the league [in] 2013,” recalls producer Alexa Fogel. “It was just extraordinary…to see the older girls and just how revered they were.”
      • As the documentary explores, family members simply regarded Terry and Pat as chums who had roomed together for over 60 years. It wasn’t until 2009 that the secret—the one alluded to in the documentary title—finally came out.
      • A Secret Love, executive produced by Ryan Murphy and Jason Blum, tells the story of a romance between two women that blossomed in a time of widespread homophobia, when to be “exposed” as homosexual meant public humiliation, the probable loss of a job and shunning from family members.
      • Terry and Pat had been “out” to gay friends for decades, but even well into their 80s they did not disclose to loved ones the true nature of their bond.
      • “I felt like I was sort of living a lie,” Donahue admits in the film, revealing she most feared the reaction of her niece Diana, the director’s mom. The two were like mother and daughter. Donahue confides, “I didn’t want to lose her love.”
      • The documentary weaves back and forth between the present and earlier moments in Pat and Terry’s lives, and in the life of their adopted country (they grew up in Canada but came to the U.S. after Terry won her baseball contract). Terry recalls the strict emphasis for the league’s players on projecting a feminine image at all times. They were dispatched to charm school and sported makeup in public.
    • Joe
      • The Real Story
      • Smithsonian Channel
      • Produced from 2007 through 2013
        • https://www.smithsonianchannel.com/shows/the-real-story/679
          • They’ve thrilled us, horrified us, and devastated us. 
          • They’ve raised questions about our past and given us hope for a brighter future. 
          • They are Hollywood’s biggest hits, all works of fiction, but all inspired by real events more dramatic than anything a screenwriter could dream up. 
          • The Real Story goes behind the scenes of Hollywoods biggest movies and uncovers the actual characters and true stories that inspired them
          • The show explores the fictional stories and draws a direct parallel to the real stories that inspired time.
          • Explorer the facts versus fiction of Platoon, Braveheart, Master and Commander, Apollo 13, Saving Private Ryan and more.
          • The Saving Private Ryan episode shows how the fictional story was drawn directly on the story of the Niland brothers, almost a direct comparison.
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insights into things a podcast network

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welcome to insights into entertainment a

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podcast series taking a deeper look into

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entertainment and media your hosts

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Joseph and Michelle Waylon a

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husband-and-wife team of pop culture

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fanatics are exploring all things from

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music and movies to television and

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fandom

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welcome to insights and entertainment

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this is episode 69 the happiest place in

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the NBA

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I’m your host Joseph Weiland and my

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entertaining and informative co-host

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Michelle Waylon hi everyone how you

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doing good idea I’m good and you I’m

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doing all right

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so we have a well-balanced show for you

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today we’ve got a couple stories and our

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Disney detective we’re talking about the

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NBA being saved in some form by Disney

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then we will talk about Disneyland

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reopening or will it be reopening then

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we have news on the Marvel side with

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Wanda vision and Falcon and Winter

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Soldier news and in our Star Wars

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insights we’ll be talking about what

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Star Wars nearly looked like it’s a very

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nostalgic character images yep and then

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we will get an update on the Mandalorian

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season too from jon favreau and in our

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entertainment news one of my favorite

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entertainers is now in the news Don

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Henley talking to Congress about some

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changes to the copyright law he’d like

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to see then we’ll finish up with our

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insightful picks of the week like we

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usually do and I think we got ourselves

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a good show this week already they get

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started sure let’s do it all right go

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for Disney detective

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so the NBA took a major step forward

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getting back on the court on this past

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Thursday with the league of league’s

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board of governors approving a 22 team

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format for restarting the league’s

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season next month at Disney which we’ve

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been talking about off and on they were

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talking about doing it in Las Vegas they

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were talking about Disney and it seems

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Disney now has has won out so the teams

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would arrive in Disney around July 7th

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and they would play an eight game slate

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of games

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starting on July 31st at the ESPN Wide

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World of Sports Complex all this teams

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will stay practice and play at Disney

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and the NBA Finals will probably

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stretched in be stretched out into

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October because of the time that you

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know that they haven’t been playing

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since the pandemic you know started in

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in March so they’re you know still kind

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of working things out with it you know

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there’s health measures they have to

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look into you know and and figure it out

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but basically they’ve determined that

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it’s the twenty two teams that were

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already ahead when the season had

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stopped so they’re not bringing all of

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the teams in there are obviously there’s

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more than 22 teams in it as of right now

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they’ve actually decided that the 2021

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season will be tentatively starting

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December 1st so if you have your

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playoffs in October it doesn’t really

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give you a lot of time off before you

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know your next season starts so you know

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so obviously the teams that aren’t

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playing in the finals will probably

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starting up you know practice at some

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point I’m sure you know soon because

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again the season is going to be starting

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you know they’re all kind of off you

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know schedule and whatnot and also

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they’re looking to cut down the number

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of games before the playoff normally

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they play 82 games but they’re only

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going to be playing 71 to 75 games

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during this time so the 22 teams you

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know they s there were teams that were

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already in playoff positions so they’re

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still like everybody’s still in there

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same spot it’s just that obviously you

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know the the t the nine teams I’m sorry

0:06:18.150,0:06:23.700
the the couple of teams that

0:06:21.030,0:06:25.560
in there done now for the season they’re

0:06:23.700,0:06:26.640
their season is done so that’s Atlanta

0:06:25.560,0:06:29.430
Cleveland New York

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Golden State Minnesota Detroit Chicago

0:06:29.430,0:06:34.740
and Charlotte so they’re pretty much

0:06:31.920,0:06:37.050
done we’re now everybody else now they

0:06:34.740,0:06:40.740
have to start getting ready to head down

0:06:37.050,0:06:42.360
to Disney World so so I’m curious what

0:06:40.740,0:06:45.510
the effect this is going to have on

0:06:42.360,0:06:49.830
Disney obviously this is a profit-making

0:06:45.510,0:06:52.140
venture for Disney is this also part of

0:06:49.830,0:06:54.720
their hey let’s get people back to the

0:06:52.140,0:06:58.620
parks because you might be rubbing

0:06:54.720,0:07:00.090
elbows with NBA celebrities is that and

0:06:58.620,0:07:04.110
that’s the whole thing you figure

0:07:00.090,0:07:05.880
they’re probably gonna be you know

0:07:04.110,0:07:07.890
during the day if they’re having

0:07:05.880,0:07:10.020
practices which I’m sure they will

0:07:07.890,0:07:11.940
they’ll be at Wide World of Sports it

0:07:10.020,0:07:14.130
didn’t the article didn’t say anything

0:07:11.940,0:07:16.169
about now normally nobody goes to wild

0:07:14.130,0:07:18.600
world of sports unless there’s some

0:07:16.169,0:07:20.780
activity going on there or you have a

0:07:18.600,0:07:24.390
ticket for something or there’s an event

0:07:20.780,0:07:27.360
or you know a marathon weekend or

0:07:24.390,0:07:29.580
something like that so I’m guessing

0:07:27.360,0:07:33.419
they’re probably gonna close it off to

0:07:29.580,0:07:36.270
the public so unless you’re there as

0:07:33.419,0:07:38.669
part of the NBA you’re not gonna be

0:07:36.270,0:07:40.350
going there now it didn’t mention

0:07:38.669,0:07:42.030
anything about like their families

0:07:40.350,0:07:45.240
because that was kind of something we

0:07:42.030,0:07:47.850
had said was that oh well the families

0:07:45.240,0:07:51.540
could go and the families could go to

0:07:47.850,0:07:54.419
Disney because the parks will be opening

0:07:51.540,0:07:57.450
you know around that time so what will

0:07:54.419,0:07:59.669
your families be doing you know well I

0:07:57.450,0:08:02.100
mean even if you figure they’re gonna

0:07:59.669,0:08:03.660
have downtime at some point right if the

0:08:02.100,0:08:05.700
parks are open you know the celebrities

0:08:03.660,0:08:07.380
the athletes are gonna be going to the

0:08:05.700,0:08:10.140
parks probably with their families at

0:08:07.380,0:08:11.850
some point in time right so it’s one of

0:08:10.140,0:08:14.610
those things where if you’re an NBA fan

0:08:11.850,0:08:15.690
this might be a great time to do a

0:08:14.610,0:08:17.940
Disney vacation

0:08:15.690,0:08:19.590
sure if you want to you know take the

0:08:17.940,0:08:22.320
risk but that’s the other thing too is

0:08:19.590,0:08:25.050
again we don’t know if their family is

0:08:22.320,0:08:29.400
is going and then that’s the other thing

0:08:25.050,0:08:31.229
is what are the health restrictions is

0:08:29.400,0:08:34.380
it something where they’re not allowed

0:08:31.229,0:08:36.390
to socialize you know or go

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any place you know not announced

0:08:36.390,0:08:39.630
anything along the right and they

0:08:37.890,0:08:42.120
haven’t said like what resort cuz we

0:08:39.630,0:08:44.130
know not every resort is probably going

0:08:42.120,0:08:46.110
to be opening so is there plan to

0:08:44.130,0:08:48.600
basically just these guys aren’t staying

0:08:46.110,0:08:50.490
at the all-star no you don’t think

0:08:48.600,0:08:52.560
they’re staying in the basketball no

0:08:50.490,0:08:55.620
they’re probably staying at the Grand

0:08:52.560,0:08:57.630
Floridian or you know someplace and the

0:08:55.620,0:09:00.300
thing is like Grand Floridian has so

0:08:57.630,0:09:03.300
many different buildings that you know

0:09:00.300,0:09:05.700
you could house them all sure you know

0:09:03.300,0:09:08.520
in one or two of them well and you

0:09:05.700,0:09:11.720
figure if you just house them at the

0:09:08.520,0:09:16.290
Magic Kingdom Resort right you can keep

0:09:11.720,0:09:19.080
literally the entire NBA oh yeah yeah

0:09:16.290,0:09:21.960
exactly so it’ll be interesting to see

0:09:19.080,0:09:24.270
how they go forward with the logistics

0:09:21.960,0:09:27.120
of everything and now has there been any

0:09:24.270,0:09:29.460
talks of doing this for any other sports

0:09:27.120,0:09:31.530
now this is this is the only one that

0:09:29.460,0:09:33.480
they’ve that they’ve really talked about

0:09:31.530,0:09:36.690
you know I know they’ve been you know

0:09:33.480,0:09:39.690
hinting about baseball you know coming

0:09:36.690,0:09:42.000
back but nothing because you know

0:09:39.690,0:09:44.100
Disney’s Wide World of Sports is more

0:09:42.000,0:09:45.150
than capable of hosting multiple oh yes

0:09:44.100,0:09:47.190
I think the only thing they couldn’t

0:09:45.150,0:09:49.580
host there would be like ice hockey I

0:09:47.190,0:09:52.800
don’t know I don’t know if they have a

0:09:49.580,0:09:54.780
hockey well if they do they probably

0:09:52.800,0:09:57.090
don’t have enough active hockey right

0:09:54.780,0:10:01.560
they might only have like one because I

0:09:57.090,0:10:04.950
think the the Mighty Ducks might you

0:10:01.560,0:10:08.340
know might have practiced there so they

0:10:04.950,0:10:11.580
might only have like one or two if that

0:10:08.340,0:10:14.040
but interesting so if you’re an NBA fan

0:10:11.580,0:10:16.170
there is also the season yeah so you

0:10:14.040,0:10:17.100
long as you’re not a fan of you know one

0:10:16.170,0:10:19.770
of the teams that have been eliminated

0:10:17.100,0:10:21.690
yeah just start liking another one but

0:10:19.770,0:10:23.970
you know what I think you know and we’ve

0:10:21.690,0:10:25.530
been you know joking about this when you

0:10:23.970,0:10:28.200
know when you’re looking at the TV Guide

0:10:25.530,0:10:29.910
you see ESPN playing you know the Super

0:10:28.200,0:10:32.160
Bowl from ten years ago in the World

0:10:29.910,0:10:36.420
Series from five years ago and people

0:10:32.160,0:10:38.700
are so desperate for sports well that’s

0:10:36.420,0:10:41.970
again work we keep the TVs on in the

0:10:38.700,0:10:45.210
lunchroom right and ESPN’s always on one

0:10:41.970,0:10:46.890
of the TVs and just listen to what the

0:10:45.210,0:10:47.970
sports commenters are talking about at

0:10:46.890,0:10:50.100
this point in time

0:10:47.970,0:10:52.560
is it’s ridiculous because there’s

0:10:50.100,0:10:56.220
literally nothing to talk about right so

0:10:52.560,0:10:58.319
you have a feeling that even if you

0:10:56.220,0:10:59.790
don’t like basketball you’re gonna all

0:10:58.319,0:11:02.819
of a sudden become up you’re gonna

0:10:59.790,0:11:05.790
become basketball fan just because right

0:11:02.819,0:11:09.060
if you’re that type of person who is

0:11:05.790,0:11:11.160
having that oh my god I need some sort

0:11:09.060,0:11:12.930
of fix I need to watch some sport and

0:11:11.160,0:11:15.509
all of a sudden you’re gonna become a

0:11:12.930,0:11:18.930
fan of you know Boston now or something

0:11:15.509,0:11:20.879
just because what’s up I don’t know they

0:11:18.930,0:11:23.220
might get a resurgence and you know the

0:11:20.879,0:11:26.069
amount of fans that they’ve had before

0:11:23.220,0:11:28.560
so yeah that’s very possible yeah

0:11:26.069,0:11:31.709
so tell us about the possibility of

0:11:28.560,0:11:34.920
Disneyland reopening so according to the

0:11:31.709,0:11:38.310
OSI register the state of California has

0:11:34.920,0:11:42.120
decided theme parks would begin would be

0:11:38.310,0:11:44.370
able to open again during stage 3 of the

0:11:42.120,0:11:46.980
government’s four stage process to

0:11:44.370,0:11:49.920
reopening the economy of course that

0:11:46.980,0:11:53.160
depends on their infection rate and you

0:11:49.920,0:11:55.589
know remaining stable so as for when

0:11:53.160,0:11:57.809
that’ll happen California governor

0:11:55.589,0:11:59.490
hinted earlier in May that it could

0:11:57.809,0:12:01.800
happen sooner than expected

0:11:59.490,0:12:04.589
he said phase three is not a year away

0:12:01.800,0:12:06.509
it’s not six months away it’s not even

0:12:04.589,0:12:09.540
three months away it may not even be

0:12:06.509,0:12:11.910
more than a month away we just want to

0:12:09.540,0:12:14.819
make sure we have a protocol in place to

0:12:11.910,0:12:17.370
secure customer safety employee safety

0:12:14.819,0:12:19.259
and allow the businesses to thrive in a

0:12:17.370,0:12:22.620
way that is sustainable

0:12:19.259,0:12:25.649
he had kind of hinted that June third

0:12:22.620,0:12:29.720
might be a potential date for shifting

0:12:25.649,0:12:31.589
into stage three so Disneyland and

0:12:29.720,0:12:33.839
California’s knees California Adventure

0:12:31.589,0:12:35.370
aren’t the only theme parks obviously

0:12:33.839,0:12:38.250
that would be allowed to open under

0:12:35.370,0:12:40.860
stage three there’s Universal Studios

0:12:38.250,0:12:43.550
Hollywood Knott’s Berry Farm Magic

0:12:40.860,0:12:48.149
Kingdom and Legoland that are all

0:12:43.550,0:12:50.399
affected by this so as of right now none

0:12:48.149,0:12:52.939
of those parks have made any sort of

0:12:50.399,0:12:56.100
announcement as to when they would be

0:12:52.939,0:12:59.009
opening up obviously the only major

0:12:56.100,0:13:01.950
domestic theme parks that have some sort

0:12:59.009,0:13:05.130
of schedule is obviously Universal

0:13:01.950,0:13:07.830
Orlando islands of adventure and volcano

0:13:05.130,0:13:11.970
Bay which we had talked about previously

0:13:07.830,0:13:14.600
they were starting to open the beginning

0:13:11.970,0:13:18.170
of this week they were doing just

0:13:14.600,0:13:21.720
castmember opening then they were doing

0:13:18.170,0:13:25.980
Pass Holder and then finally opening up

0:13:21.720,0:13:29.490
for the public as just a little side

0:13:25.980,0:13:34.740
note to all of this we have a friend who

0:13:29.490,0:13:38.430
happens to work for Universal in in

0:13:34.740,0:13:40.590
Orlando and he was affected by by this

0:13:38.430,0:13:42.750
he was out of work finally was able to

0:13:40.590,0:13:45.090
go back to work he said the first day

0:13:42.750,0:13:49.380
wasn’t so bad

0:13:45.090,0:13:52.830
the second day you had certain guests

0:13:49.380,0:13:56.610
who were very much adhering to the rules

0:13:52.830,0:14:00.270
and then you had a lot of what he said

0:13:56.610,0:14:03.030
entitled people who just felt like they

0:14:00.270,0:14:05.130
didn’t have to they weren’t wearing

0:14:03.030,0:14:07.410
their masks correctly they were wearing

0:14:05.130,0:14:09.480
them below their nose or below their

0:14:07.410,0:14:12.450
face and on their chin

0:14:09.480,0:14:15.030
they had markings kind of you know

0:14:12.450,0:14:19.080
around you know stand here don’t stand

0:14:15.030,0:14:21.570
here and just some people were very much

0:14:19.080,0:14:23.580
by the rules and then others were just

0:14:21.570,0:14:25.470
like whatever and these were pass

0:14:23.580,0:14:28.290
holders so these were the people that

0:14:25.470,0:14:31.200
you would have thought if nothing else

0:14:28.290,0:14:35.100
they would have been the ones adhering

0:14:31.200,0:14:37.380
you know to everything so he said he’s

0:14:35.100,0:14:40.320
really praying for Humanity at this

0:14:37.380,0:14:42.900
point because if this is what things are

0:14:40.320,0:14:46.460
gonna be like when they open up a little

0:14:42.900,0:14:49.290
bit more it’s gonna be hard you know

0:14:46.460,0:14:51.090
basically telling these people you know

0:14:49.290,0:14:53.880
you have to follow the rules if you want

0:14:51.090,0:14:55.920
to be here hearing that news is exactly

0:14:53.880,0:15:00.060
why I have no interest is going to s

0:14:55.920,0:15:02.520
point yeah because you can implement all

0:15:00.060,0:15:05.070
the rules that you want you are going to

0:15:02.520,0:15:09.000
have a certain segment of the population

0:15:05.070,0:15:11.850
that will think that they’re entitled to

0:15:09.000,0:15:14.310
not do those because they’ll have some

0:15:11.850,0:15:14.800
irrational idea that it’s a violation of

0:15:14.310,0:15:17.800
their

0:15:14.800,0:15:22.360
their personal choice or whatever it is

0:15:17.800,0:15:24.670
and it’s really gonna come down to what

0:15:22.360,0:15:27.850
the willingness is of the proprietors

0:15:24.670,0:15:29.709
worse those rules yes if you’re going to

0:15:27.850,0:15:31.300
impose rules and people aren’t going to

0:15:29.709,0:15:32.230
follow them and you’re not going to

0:15:31.300,0:15:35.200
enforce them

0:15:32.230,0:15:36.550
then do waive the rules right let

0:15:35.200,0:15:38.769
everyone know that you’re not doing the

0:15:36.550,0:15:42.940
rules and people the smart people like

0:15:38.769,0:15:45.250
us will just knock you know yeah and

0:15:42.940,0:15:48.820
that’s and that’s what I’m hoping is

0:15:45.250,0:15:51.420
that they had that they’re gonna have a

0:15:48.820,0:15:54.579
heightened you know security base

0:15:51.420,0:15:56.529
walking around mate you know making sure

0:15:54.579,0:15:59.320
everybody’s following the rule and if

0:15:56.529,0:16:02.410
you don’t you get one warning and if you

0:15:59.320,0:16:04.870
you know don’t adhere or you give them

0:16:02.410,0:16:08.769
problems then they will exercise their

0:16:04.870,0:16:10.480
right to escort you off of their

0:16:08.769,0:16:12.459
property because you’re not following

0:16:10.480,0:16:14.800
their rules that but the problem that

0:16:12.459,0:16:16.899
you run into is that there are

0:16:14.800,0:16:20.190
businesses that are doing that now right

0:16:16.899,0:16:22.360
and they’re meeting violent opposition

0:16:20.190,0:16:24.730
absolutely the point that people are

0:16:22.360,0:16:27.640
being assaulted mm-hmm yeah and people

0:16:24.730,0:16:31.390
are being shot and killed for trying to

0:16:27.640,0:16:33.790
to enforce these rules right that are

0:16:31.390,0:16:35.649
there for everybody’s safety right and

0:16:33.790,0:16:39.790
and the problem that you have is if

0:16:35.649,0:16:43.089
people are going to become deadly right

0:16:39.790,0:16:46.420
just because you’re trying to enforce

0:16:43.089,0:16:50.589
safety rules there’s no hope of this

0:16:46.420,0:16:53.250
yeah surviving at this point in time and

0:16:50.589,0:16:56.500
and I saw statistic yesterday that

0:16:53.250,0:16:58.890
globally the number of coronavirus

0:16:56.500,0:17:02.560
infections have taken an uptick

0:16:58.890,0:17:05.260
record-wise where you’re seeing more

0:17:02.560,0:17:07.890
than a hundred thousand people and more

0:17:05.260,0:17:11.800
than a thousand people a day infected

0:17:07.890,0:17:13.750
every day which had only happened for

0:17:11.800,0:17:15.760
five days during the three months prior

0:17:13.750,0:17:19.630
to that but it’s at curring every day

0:17:15.760,0:17:20.949
now worldwide because everyone’s getting

0:17:19.630,0:17:22.980
exposed to it now because the

0:17:20.949,0:17:26.380
restrictions are being lifted all right

0:17:22.980,0:17:27.660
so I don’t know if there’s much hope out

0:17:26.380,0:17:30.150
there for

0:17:27.660,0:17:32.700
for that I’m hoping that you know we get

0:17:30.150,0:17:34.320
some treatment for it huh it looks like

0:17:32.700,0:17:35.520
it’s going to be here to stay and we’re

0:17:34.320,0:17:37.110
not going to be able to avoid it so

0:17:35.520,0:17:42.390
hopefully we can find a way to survive

0:17:37.110,0:17:45.690
it yeah so on to I guess better news

0:17:42.390,0:17:48.270
after that tell us about our Marvel

0:17:45.690,0:17:50.790
shows or anticipated Marvel shows so it

0:17:48.270,0:17:54.480
seems that Disney Plus subscribers will

0:17:50.790,0:17:57.750
get Marvel shows like Loki Wan division

0:17:54.480,0:18:00.390
and Falcon Winter Soldier on time but

0:17:57.750,0:18:04.350
just not as much as they were expecting

0:18:00.390,0:18:06.060
so according to Disney Plus help the

0:18:04.350,0:18:09.240
Falcon and Winter Soldier is still

0:18:06.060,0:18:11.880
scheduled for fall 2020 and Wan division

0:18:09.240,0:18:14.220
is still scheduled for a December 2020

0:18:11.880,0:18:16.710
release but it’s rumored that we will

0:18:14.220,0:18:20.280
not be getting their season in their

0:18:16.710,0:18:22.200
entirety so reports that came out said

0:18:20.280,0:18:24.510
Falcon and Winter Soldier and Wan

0:18:22.200,0:18:27.690
division will be released but with a

0:18:24.510,0:18:30.540
half season Disney’s reasoning is

0:18:27.690,0:18:32.550
reportedly that it started that it

0:18:30.540,0:18:34.760
starved for new content and can’t afford

0:18:32.550,0:18:37.920
to wait until filming and

0:18:34.760,0:18:40.920
post-production can be completed for the

0:18:37.920,0:18:43.440
rest of the season which kind of makes

0:18:40.920,0:18:46.950
sense because we’ve seen that with other

0:18:43.440,0:18:50.930
shows you know Walking Dead is a perfect

0:18:46.950,0:18:54.390
example they had won the season finale

0:18:50.930,0:18:55.770
couldn’t go into post-production you

0:18:54.390,0:18:59.250
know they filmed everything that they

0:18:55.770,0:19:01.290
could but they couldn’t complete it but

0:18:59.250,0:19:03.720
it seems you know everybody’s looking

0:19:01.290,0:19:07.530
for something to watch and people are

0:19:03.720,0:19:09.810
tired of you know reruns of things and

0:19:07.530,0:19:12.360
you know so they want to get stuff out

0:19:09.810,0:19:17.430
there and obviously we’ve seen that you

0:19:12.360,0:19:19.410
know frozen got released early on word

0:19:17.430,0:19:21.120
got released early Star Wars got

0:19:19.410,0:19:23.580
released early so they’ve been you know

0:19:21.120,0:19:26.070
releasing things earlier so obviously

0:19:23.580,0:19:28.980
they want to kind of keep that momentum

0:19:26.070,0:19:33.090
going but they just don’t have the full

0:19:28.980,0:19:35.370
season you know ready yet so you know

0:19:33.090,0:19:38.220
usually the seasons are between 6 & 8

0:19:35.370,0:19:39.810
episodes and it looks like when they do

0:19:38.220,0:19:41.170
get released we’re only going to get

0:19:39.810,0:19:43.380
half of that so

0:19:41.170,0:19:46.600
between you know three and four episodes

0:19:43.380,0:19:51.430
you know for each so so don’t binge

0:19:46.600,0:19:54.280
watch take your watch like one every two

0:19:51.430,0:19:55.720
weeks you know kind of make it last and

0:19:54.280,0:19:57.940
maybe they’ll probably do you know

0:19:55.720,0:20:00.130
they’ll probably be releasing it the

0:19:57.940,0:20:02.380
same way that they do with most of their

0:20:00.130,0:20:04.390
other shows they only release one

0:20:02.380,0:20:06.460
episode a week so they might even do

0:20:04.390,0:20:09.070
that where they kind of stretch it out

0:20:06.460,0:20:11.680
you know for for the consumer so that

0:20:09.070,0:20:16.150
you you don’t have that binge watching

0:20:11.680,0:20:18.070
at one time so but it’s nice to hear

0:20:16.150,0:20:20.140
that that’ll you know that those will

0:20:18.070,0:20:21.790
still be on track we’re still gonna see

0:20:20.140,0:20:23.980
them before the end of the year we just

0:20:21.790,0:20:24.460
won’t get to see the whole season just

0:20:23.980,0:20:26.710
yet

0:20:24.460,0:20:31.990
well and you know the one interesting

0:20:26.710,0:20:35.800
thing about the the scenario itself is

0:20:31.990,0:20:38.260
it’s almost a matter of the styles of

0:20:35.800,0:20:43.090
the streaming service so for instance

0:20:38.260,0:20:46.980
you have you have Disney who relies very

0:20:43.090,0:20:51.970
heavily on a back catalogue of material

0:20:46.980,0:20:55.300
whereas you’ve got Netflix who they have

0:20:51.970,0:20:57.700
this extensive back catalogue but they

0:20:55.300,0:21:00.670
also when they release they release

0:20:57.700,0:21:07.090
everything at once so as a result they

0:21:00.670,0:21:09.340
have a much longer pipeline right for

0:21:07.090,0:21:12.120
their material so they’ve got material

0:21:09.340,0:21:14.500
that’s already produced and ready to go

0:21:12.120,0:21:16.000
they scheduled to release that they drop

0:21:14.500,0:21:18.730
it and then they’re ready to drop

0:21:16.000,0:21:20.830
something else so they’ve got a number

0:21:18.730,0:21:23.020
of shows that are through their

0:21:20.830,0:21:26.500
production already and ready to go on

0:21:23.020,0:21:28.300
right Disney where Disney is almost like

0:21:26.500,0:21:30.190
a regular television network they’re

0:21:28.300,0:21:33.460
producing and releasing and producing

0:21:30.190,0:21:35.170
and releasing so they don’t get multiple

0:21:33.460,0:21:38.920
seasons ahead they don’t have all that

0:21:35.170,0:21:40.540
many original series that they’re

0:21:38.920,0:21:43.810
working on right now compared to a

0:21:40.540,0:21:46.780
Netflix Hulu and Amazon Prime and

0:21:43.810,0:21:49.870
they’re staggering their releases and

0:21:46.780,0:21:52.390
Disney does it legitimately they do it

0:21:49.870,0:21:54.560
so that they can extend your

0:21:52.390,0:21:56.870
subscriptions are right right because

0:21:54.560,0:21:58.970
let’s face it if they dropped all of the

0:21:56.870,0:22:00.290
mandalorian season 1 at once everyone

0:21:58.970,0:22:01.580
would have been to Washington cancel

0:22:00.290,0:22:03.650
their subscription in a month

0:22:01.580,0:22:06.800
and there were people that did that that

0:22:03.650,0:22:09.440
you know gave it two months and which is

0:22:06.800,0:22:11.690
also why Disney did not Disney gives you

0:22:09.440,0:22:14.990
the shortest trial period as well yeah

0:22:11.690,0:22:17.570
yeah they only give you the 7 days but

0:22:14.990,0:22:20.560
it turns out you know I granted no one

0:22:17.570,0:22:24.710
could have possibly prepared for write

0:22:20.560,0:22:27.920
the the corona situation like we have

0:22:24.710,0:22:31.400
right now but that’s exactly why Disney

0:22:27.920,0:22:33.740
is hard up right now aterial yeah you

0:22:31.400,0:22:37.910
you and Mattie in your movie nights have

0:22:33.740,0:22:40.730
basically ground through a vast library

0:22:37.910,0:22:43.460
of Disney movies already it’s amazing

0:22:40.730,0:22:45.830
how many more they’re still still are

0:22:43.460,0:22:47.720
that we haven’t you know seen and and

0:22:45.830,0:22:51.530
one of the things is because they made

0:22:47.720,0:22:53.780
so many I wouldn’t say bad sequels but

0:22:51.530,0:22:56.870
they made some you know interesting

0:22:53.780,0:22:59.930
direct-to-video sequels not like you

0:22:56.870,0:23:03.260
know a Toy Story 2 or a frozen – you

0:22:59.930,0:23:05.720
know Hunchback of Notre Dom – was not

0:23:03.260,0:23:07.370
something you know that that played in

0:23:05.720,0:23:10.460
in the theater but it’s kind of

0:23:07.370,0:23:13.160
interesting to see that and also we’re

0:23:10.460,0:23:18.020
watching movies that you know aren’t

0:23:13.160,0:23:19.760
part of that you know normal catalog you

0:23:18.020,0:23:22.220
know that they were movies that were

0:23:19.760,0:23:25.900
made you know so it’s interesting to see

0:23:22.220,0:23:29.000
you know how how Disney movies you know

0:23:25.900,0:23:31.190
started and kind of had a decline they

0:23:29.000,0:23:33.710
came back up and you know so it’s

0:23:31.190,0:23:36.410
interesting from that perspective you

0:23:33.710,0:23:38.810
know so fortunately we still have plenty

0:23:36.410,0:23:43.280
to go through but again they’re still

0:23:38.810,0:23:45.230
not as much new content out there like

0:23:43.280,0:23:47.750
you know some of the other services

0:23:45.230,0:23:50.300
alright so right but you know to see

0:23:47.750,0:23:52.490
that that philosophy that production and

0:23:50.300,0:23:55.280
release philosophy that Disney subscribe

0:23:52.490,0:23:57.740
to is now is what’s hurting it right now

0:23:55.280,0:23:59.750
just like it’s hurting your regular

0:23:57.740,0:24:02.450
network television as well yeah they

0:23:59.750,0:24:05.900
have the same same problem so I think if

0:24:02.450,0:24:08.360
anything this situation itself is really

0:24:05.900,0:24:09.590
lend itself to seeing streaming services

0:24:08.360,0:24:12.590
take off because they’re gonna be

0:24:09.590,0:24:14.980
filling this gap know that a lot of

0:24:12.590,0:24:17.330
network television can’t film yeah yeah

0:24:14.980,0:24:20.030
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that’s the Star Trek insight about there

0:25:43.359,0:25:50.289
we go that was like sacrilege no

0:25:46.739,0:25:53.229
blasphemy sorry

0:25:50.289,0:25:58.319
I can’t do this podcast I don’t know who

0:25:53.229,0:25:58.319
you are wrong key on the Soundwave

0:25:58.349,0:26:02.529
production foot pause that’s like you

0:26:00.339,0:26:05.169
know life production gotta love it right

0:26:02.529,0:26:07.289
Wow man I just don’t even know where to

0:26:05.169,0:26:07.289
begin

0:26:07.929,0:26:16.749
so this was a funny little story that

0:26:12.609,0:26:19.119
came up and I figured we’d throw it in

0:26:16.749,0:26:22.209
so Star Wars is obviously packed with

0:26:19.119,0:26:25.329
legendary actors you know in that

0:26:22.209,0:26:30.309
perfect cast but what’s funny is it

0:26:25.329,0:26:33.759
wasn’t nearly as perfect as as it came

0:26:30.309,0:26:37.389
to be so before Star Wars which was shot

0:26:33.759,0:26:39.690
it was solo on 20th Century Fox’s agenda

0:26:37.389,0:26:42.639
that they actually gave George Lucas the

0:26:39.690,0:26:45.369
merchandising and sequel rights in lieu

0:26:42.639,0:26:47.440
of a salary thinking that they’d saved

0:26:45.369,0:26:50.440
themselves three hundred and fifty

0:26:47.440,0:26:54.069
thousand dollars whoops they lost out on

0:26:50.440,0:26:55.719
one point six billion dollars that’s

0:26:54.069,0:27:00.339
kind of funny when you when you think

0:26:55.719,0:27:02.709
about it but obviously with that now

0:27:00.339,0:27:05.679
we’re we’re finding out that there were

0:27:02.709,0:27:10.539
other stars that were considered for

0:27:05.679,0:27:13.389
some of these main roles so Han Solo how

0:27:10.539,0:27:17.679
would you feel if Al Pacino had played

0:27:13.389,0:27:19.599
the role you know he said he said it was

0:27:17.679,0:27:23.109
mine for the taking but I just didn’t

0:27:19.599,0:27:26.949
understand the script obviously he went

0:27:23.109,0:27:29.079
on to do the Godfather and you know and

0:27:26.949,0:27:31.149
famous line of I’m gonna make him an

0:27:29.079,0:27:33.219
offer I can’t refuse you know he could

0:27:31.149,0:27:35.919
have said hey get in there you big furry

0:27:33.219,0:27:39.879
oaf I don’t care what you smell

0:27:35.919,0:27:41.270
you know so it you know it definitely

0:27:39.879,0:27:43.940
would have been a much

0:27:41.270,0:27:45.520
different Star Wars with Al Pacino as

0:27:43.940,0:27:50.090
han Solo

0:27:45.520,0:27:53.330
another actor up for han Solo was James

0:27:50.090,0:27:54.440
Caan so he obviously started with Pacino

0:27:53.330,0:27:58.010
in The Godfather

0:27:54.440,0:27:59.480
and he actually was quoted as saying you

0:27:58.010,0:28:02.930
know they didn’t want an actor and

0:27:59.480,0:28:04.280
that’s why they got Harrison Ford little

0:28:02.930,0:28:07.460
did they know Harrison Ford would

0:28:04.280,0:28:10.130
obviously go on to be very successful in

0:28:07.460,0:28:13.010
his movie Harrison Ford at the time

0:28:10.130,0:28:15.230
right was a carpenter right and George

0:28:13.010,0:28:16.340
had basically called him in just to read

0:28:15.230,0:28:18.680
lines with the people that were

0:28:16.340,0:28:21.140
rehearsed right right so you know plenty

0:28:18.680,0:28:24.440
of other actors obviously auditioned for

0:28:21.140,0:28:26.750
the role now Sylvester Stallone claims

0:28:24.440,0:28:29.360
that Lucas never even looked at him

0:28:26.750,0:28:32.630
during his tryouts but Kurt Russell

0:28:29.360,0:28:35.240
Christopher Walken Nick Nolte and even

0:28:32.630,0:28:38.720
Freddy Krueger himself Robert Englund

0:28:35.240,0:28:41.990
had a chance at the role England who was

0:28:38.720,0:28:44.060
actually too young for the role did

0:28:41.990,0:28:45.620
suggest more Kamel he said yeah there’s

0:28:44.060,0:28:49.730
this kid that’s sleeping on my sofa

0:28:45.620,0:28:51.860
after you know a six-pack of beer and he

0:28:49.730,0:28:53.930
actually tried out for Luke Skywalker

0:28:51.860,0:28:56.840
and obviously we know how that turned

0:28:53.930,0:29:00.470
out so that was the the people for Han

0:28:56.840,0:29:04.040
Solo Princess Leia they were actually

0:29:00.470,0:29:06.260
looking at Jodie Foster she said that

0:29:04.040,0:29:09.500
she was actually doing two back-to-back

0:29:06.260,0:29:12.260
films at the time which were taxi driver

0:29:09.500,0:29:13.970
and Bugsy Malone and she said it would

0:29:12.260,0:29:16.130
have been fun but my career would have

0:29:13.970,0:29:18.770
definitely gone in a different direction

0:29:16.130,0:29:21.170
and I’m happy with the one that I got so

0:29:18.770,0:29:24.460
I really don’t regret it but she said

0:29:21.170,0:29:27.230
honestly I was 14 or 15 at the time and

0:29:24.460,0:29:30.650
you know it would have been kind of

0:29:27.230,0:29:32.600
weird you know convincing those

0:29:30.650,0:29:35.690
characters you know that I was a little

0:29:32.600,0:29:38.690
older and it would have been a different

0:29:35.690,0:29:43.030
concept you know for the film then of

0:29:38.690,0:29:43.030
course having the love interest of

0:29:44.050,0:29:47.810
Harrison Ford there’s a 20-year

0:29:46.040,0:29:50.480
difference between them so that would

0:29:47.810,0:29:54.090
have definitely taken a different angle

0:29:50.480,0:29:56.220
you know if they had gone with

0:29:54.090,0:29:59.990
now this was interesting for grand moff

0:29:56.220,0:30:03.240
tarkin Christopher Lee was actually

0:29:59.990,0:30:07.380
asked to do the role but he said that he

0:30:03.240,0:30:09.780
wasn’t interested in you know being part

0:30:07.380,0:30:13.020
of it but he actually suggested his

0:30:09.780,0:30:15.540
friend and on-screen nemesis Peter

0:30:13.020,0:30:17.910
crushing for the role so that’s how you

0:30:15.540,0:30:20.550
know Peter crushing got got into the

0:30:17.910,0:30:24.390
role that was the old Hammer films tiny

0:30:20.550,0:30:26.940
and Cushing Christopher Lee Davis yeah

0:30:24.390,0:30:30.000
yeah so and obviously we know that

0:30:26.940,0:30:32.790
Christopher Lee did eventually become

0:30:30.000,0:30:37.410
part of the Star Wars family and you

0:30:32.790,0:30:43.980
know Count Dooku Luke Skywalker one of

0:30:37.410,0:30:46.950
our favorite eighties television series

0:30:43.980,0:30:52.470
The Greatest American Hero William Katt

0:30:46.950,0:30:55.050
was actually you know pegged to to do

0:30:52.470,0:30:58.080
this and there’s actually some footage

0:30:55.050,0:31:03.150
of him and Kurt Russell having an

0:30:58.080,0:31:07.140
audition for for this role so you know

0:31:03.150,0:31:09.990
he he was that boy next door look you

0:31:07.140,0:31:12.390
know that they they wanted to to have

0:31:09.990,0:31:14.340
but obviously it ended up going to to

0:31:12.390,0:31:18.210
Mark Hamill because he had more of what

0:31:14.340,0:31:22.260
George Lucas was looking for so I’m

0:31:18.210,0:31:25.440
gonna totally kill this this name but

0:31:22.260,0:31:33.600
for obi-wan Kenobi it was actually a

0:31:25.440,0:31:36.870
Japanese actor Toshiro Mifune and this

0:31:33.600,0:31:40.680
is kind of why the the name has that

0:31:36.870,0:31:44.160
sound to it so it was basically like a

0:31:40.680,0:31:48.540
fanboy wish list so George Lucas was a

0:31:44.160,0:31:52.110
huge fan of you know Japanese martial

0:31:48.540,0:31:57.840
art movies and one of the big stars at

0:31:52.110,0:32:00.780
the time what was Toshiro and he had

0:31:57.840,0:32:02.450
actually asked him you know to play play

0:32:00.780,0:32:05.400
this part obviously he turned it down

0:32:02.450,0:32:06.119
his daughter had claimed that her father

0:32:05.400,0:32:08.159
who

0:32:06.119,0:32:10.679
Lucas actually offered the role of Darth

0:32:08.159,0:32:14.549
Vader was worried that Lucas would make

0:32:10.679,0:32:18.089
the samurai ethos look cheap so they

0:32:14.549,0:32:20.819
obviously changed plans but you could

0:32:18.089,0:32:22.619
almost see how different the the movie

0:32:20.819,0:32:26.609
would have been if they had you know

0:32:22.619,0:32:29.819
gone with you know those actors you know

0:32:26.609,0:32:32.969
and would it have gone on you know for

0:32:29.819,0:32:35.099
all the sequels you know if you know you

0:32:32.969,0:32:37.379
had a different cast you know in place

0:32:35.099,0:32:41.279
so I thought that was a kind of a cool

0:32:37.379,0:32:44.009
little story that I can’t help but think

0:32:41.279,0:32:45.089
of Star Wars with Pacino at hand so but

0:32:44.009,0:32:47.909
you know would have had to have played

0:32:45.089,0:32:52.619
the the gangster not you know right he’d

0:32:47.909,0:32:53.909
definitely see that yeah yeah that

0:32:52.619,0:32:56.879
definitely would have been you know

0:32:53.909,0:33:02.159
different plus he’s you know he’s not

0:32:56.879,0:33:04.649
very tall either so you know and he’s

0:33:02.159,0:33:08.039
not a pilot and he’s not how do you know

0:33:04.649,0:33:10.919
that are you sure but I do know that Han

0:33:08.039,0:33:14.849
Solo Harrison Ford is a plan yes he

0:33:10.919,0:33:20.189
definitely with the FAA but he is a pro

0:33:14.849,0:33:22.469
while he’s investigating another poor

0:33:20.189,0:33:24.929
Harrison yeah well you know gonna stay

0:33:22.469,0:33:26.969
on the right track I guess yeah so any

0:33:24.929,0:33:30.149
anyway interesting very interesting to

0:33:26.969,0:33:33.199
see how Star Wars could have turned so

0:33:30.149,0:33:36.679
let’s talk about the Mandalorian so the

0:33:33.199,0:33:40.739
Mandalorian yeah remains on track to

0:33:36.679,0:33:42.509
debut its second season in October Jon

0:33:40.739,0:33:44.999
Favreau had said we were lucky enough

0:33:42.509,0:33:49.199
Ted finished photography before the

0:33:44.999,0:33:52.649
lockdown thanks to how technology

0:33:49.199,0:33:54.839
forward Lucas and IOM are we have been

0:33:52.649,0:33:57.329
able to do all of our visual effects and

0:33:54.839,0:33:59.899
editing and post-production remotely

0:33:57.329,0:34:05.339
through systems that have been set up by

0:33:59.899,0:34:07.469
both companies for us so yeh he had

0:34:05.339,0:34:09.629
noted that you know due to the rigors of

0:34:07.469,0:34:12.419
the television schedule season two

0:34:09.629,0:34:15.960
actually feels more of a continuation of

0:34:12.419,0:34:18.779
season one than a brand new thing he

0:34:15.960,0:34:19.659
said as we explore partnering with new

0:34:18.779,0:34:22.210
filmmakers

0:34:19.659,0:34:24.789
having new characters and going deeper

0:34:22.210,0:34:27.069
with the character we already have it’s

0:34:24.789,0:34:29.440
really been fun and fulfilling and I

0:34:27.069,0:34:33.849
hope people are having as much fun

0:34:29.440,0:34:36.909
seeing it as we have making it so that’s

0:34:33.849,0:34:38.379
obviously good news that you know as of

0:34:36.909,0:34:39.909
right now we’re gonna get the full

0:34:38.379,0:34:41.379
season and it’s gonna come out in

0:34:39.909,0:34:46.539
October

0:34:41.379,0:34:48.460
a year after know a little when did the

0:34:46.539,0:34:53.710
first season come out was that October

0:34:48.460,0:34:55.530
was it yeah it was the end so Disney

0:34:53.710,0:34:58.089
Plus obviously doesn’t release

0:34:55.530,0:35:00.880
viewership data but the first season of

0:34:58.089,0:35:04.059
the mandalorian made a big slap big

0:35:00.880,0:35:06.520
splash with pop culture baby Yoda

0:35:04.059,0:35:09.309
obviously became the surprise breakout

0:35:06.520,0:35:11.470
star and Disney’s Bob Iger had noted

0:35:09.309,0:35:13.869
that the show will go on beyond season

0:35:11.470,0:35:20.520
two and could even spin-off characters

0:35:13.869,0:35:23.349
into their own series so yay full season

0:35:20.520,0:35:24.730
right on track well and honestly this

0:35:23.349,0:35:28.150
doesn’t come as much of a surprise

0:35:24.730,0:35:31.569
because the level of technology that

0:35:28.150,0:35:33.430
they’re using on oh my god yeah now like

0:35:31.569,0:35:35.920
it doesn’t it doesn’t surprise me that

0:35:33.430,0:35:38.529
they’re they’re capable of doing their

0:35:35.920,0:35:41.079
post-production stuff totally we see a

0:35:38.529,0:35:44.500
lot of TV shows now that are live TV

0:35:41.079,0:35:46.240
shows that are recording remotely

0:35:44.500,0:35:48.579
they’re doing their post-production

0:35:46.240,0:35:51.760
remotely and you’re getting pretty

0:35:48.579,0:35:53.619
quality high quality productions out of

0:35:51.760,0:35:55.539
these and if all the shooting had been

0:35:53.619,0:36:01.000
done already which it sounds like it had

0:35:55.539,0:36:02.680
been for season 2 post-production could

0:36:01.000,0:36:05.859
be done in somebody’s basement with the

0:36:02.680,0:36:07.240
right hardware yeah so it’s good to see

0:36:05.859,0:36:09.940
that they were set up for it it’s not

0:36:07.240,0:36:11.200
surprising but it is very reassuring to

0:36:09.940,0:36:13.839
know that we’ve got some light at the

0:36:11.200,0:36:16.150
end of the tunnel did come October we’re

0:36:13.839,0:36:19.539
getting our season 2 yeah baby Yoda so

0:36:16.150,0:36:21.520
that’s now maybe Disney go get on the

0:36:19.539,0:36:24.490
ball get the Disney the baby or the

0:36:21.520,0:36:27.400
merchandising out the door wow it’s

0:36:24.490,0:36:30.789
coming out slowly but sure it’s coming

0:36:27.400,0:36:32.900
eight months later it’s better late than

0:36:30.789,0:36:37.030
never I guess

0:36:32.900,0:36:39.710
I guess anyway that’s all we had for our

0:36:37.030,0:36:42.290
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anyway we’re back he’s like get some

0:38:01.290,0:38:06.300
guests so he was like get Harrison Ford

0:38:03.420,0:38:16.140
I’m sure they do the show come on he and

0:38:06.300,0:38:18.480
I are old friends you did the whole Star

0:38:16.140,0:38:22.830
Trek thing I’m a Star Wars you’re

0:38:18.480,0:38:24.630
totally off to the die-off anyway so in

0:38:22.830,0:38:28.290
the news we have Don Henley talking to

0:38:24.630,0:38:32.130
Congress about copyright law copyright

0:38:28.290,0:38:34.440
law so tell us about right so Don Henley

0:38:32.130,0:38:37.320
who was one of the songwriters for the

0:38:34.440,0:38:39.030
Eagles is urging Congress he did more

0:38:37.320,0:38:41.520
than just write songs for the Eagles for

0:38:39.030,0:38:43.950
the record he was a songwriter he was a

0:38:41.520,0:38:45.420
primary vocalist and he did drums and he

0:38:43.950,0:38:47.070
plays guitar would you like to do the

0:38:45.420,0:38:48.510
story no no please go ahead I’m just

0:38:47.070,0:38:50.190
making sure the man gets proper credit

0:38:48.510,0:38:52.380
that’s all that’s really what this whole

0:38:50.190,0:39:00.119
story’s about it then no it’s not it has

0:38:52.380,0:39:03.000
any of that giving credit okay so he is

0:39:00.119,0:39:06.270
urging Congress to protect artists

0:39:03.000,0:39:08.550
against online pirating waiting into the

0:39:06.270,0:39:10.650
copyright fight that’s actually pitted

0:39:08.550,0:39:14.730
between Hollywood and the recording

0:39:10.650,0:39:18.780
industry against big tech platforms like

0:39:14.730,0:39:23.540
Google’s YouTube so the blockbuster hit

0:39:18.780,0:39:23.540
maker of the 70s is that a better that’s

0:39:23.930,0:39:28.310
actually testified online from his home

0:39:26.580,0:39:31.770
before the Senate Judiciary Committee

0:39:28.310,0:39:35.220
weighing possible changes to a 1998

0:39:31.770,0:39:37.440
copyright law the law allows holders of

0:39:35.220,0:39:40.050
copyrighted material to formally ask

0:39:37.440,0:39:41.940
parties that they believe have taken

0:39:40.050,0:39:45.260
their content without permission

0:39:41.940,0:39:48.000
to remove it the parties can claim

0:39:45.260,0:39:50.010
dispute the claim if they comply

0:39:48.000,0:39:52.230
promptly with the request there are no

0:39:50.010,0:39:56.100
legal consequences otherwise they’re

0:39:52.230,0:39:58.740
subject to criminal penalties so the so

0:39:56.100,0:40:01.200
called take notice and takedown system

0:39:58.740,0:40:03.020
under the copyright law is used

0:40:01.200,0:40:05.099
the movie in recording industries

0:40:03.020,0:40:07.640
Entertainment Software companies and

0:40:05.099,0:40:10.609
book authors to pursue tech platforms

0:40:07.640,0:40:14.069
universities and other facilitate

0:40:10.609,0:40:16.829
facilitators of file-sharing Henley

0:40:14.069,0:40:21.260
called the copyright law a relic of the

0:40:16.829,0:40:21.260
myspace error in a tick-tock world

0:40:24.619,0:40:27.930
actually knew what tick tock was that’s

0:40:27.089,0:40:30.869
impressive

0:40:27.930,0:40:33.599
so with hundreds of millions of takedown

0:40:30.869,0:40:36.799
notices sent for every link taken down

0:40:33.599,0:40:40.230
he said a dozen more pop up in its place

0:40:36.799,0:40:44.760
the system still allows big tech to rake

0:40:40.230,0:40:47.730
in revenue after repeated you know the

0:40:44.760,0:40:49.950
copyright infringement so the copyright

0:40:47.730,0:40:53.790
battle has been spotlighted in Congress

0:40:49.950,0:40:57.270
at a time when US tech giants are in an

0:40:53.790,0:40:59.970
escalating feud with the president and

0:40:57.270,0:41:02.280
Republican lawmakers who are accusing

0:40:59.970,0:41:04.940
platforms such as Twitter Facebook and

0:41:02.280,0:41:08.250
Google of suppressing conservative

0:41:04.940,0:41:11.069
viewpoints so all this is kind of you

0:41:08.250,0:41:14.430
know linked together so you know in a

0:41:11.069,0:41:19.200
debate between online pirating the

0:41:14.430,0:41:23.430
committee has been you know making its

0:41:19.200,0:41:25.650
learnings known you know they’ve said

0:41:23.430,0:41:28.920
that you know piracy has become easier

0:41:25.650,0:41:30.720
and faster and much much more common the

0:41:28.920,0:41:34.079
current system is failing and it’s

0:41:30.720,0:41:36.329
failing badly so you know copyright

0:41:34.079,0:41:39.150
holders maintain that some network

0:41:36.329,0:41:41.730
operators have miuna manipulated

0:41:39.150,0:41:43.740
internet provider addresses in a way to

0:41:41.730,0:41:46.559
make other networks appear responsible

0:41:43.740,0:41:48.299
for their file-sharing entertainment

0:41:46.559,0:41:51.119
industries have been pushing tech

0:41:48.299,0:41:53.520
formats platforms to do more for

0:41:51.119,0:41:56.010
themselves to police the content that

0:41:53.520,0:41:57.720
violates the copyright and then of

0:41:56.010,0:42:00.000
course on the other side the users of

0:41:57.720,0:42:02.700
the content have accused copyright

0:42:00.000,0:42:05.069
holders of alleging infringement where

0:42:02.700,0:42:07.200
it doesn’t exist Internet companies say

0:42:05.069,0:42:09.480
that they have worked actively with the

0:42:07.200,0:42:11.910
creative industries to block access to

0:42:09.480,0:42:13.619
illegal content and protect the

0:42:11.910,0:42:15.900
copyrights

0:42:13.619,0:42:22.190
so this is one that I have to get up on

0:42:15.900,0:42:25.170
my soapbox I knew you would first off as

0:42:22.190,0:42:27.150
an artist he has every right to protect

0:42:25.170,0:42:29.910
his intellectual property I don’t want

0:42:27.150,0:42:32.009
to deny that right a couple of problems

0:42:29.910,0:42:35.160
that I have here is right now the system

0:42:32.009,0:42:37.890
that they have with automated algorithms

0:42:35.160,0:42:38.549
that determine if you’re using content

0:42:37.890,0:42:41.789
mm-hmm

0:42:38.549,0:42:44.759
doesn’t work okay we’ve been victims of

0:42:41.789,0:42:48.589
that yep number of times okay so there

0:42:44.759,0:42:53.460
have been incidents where we’ve shown

0:42:48.589,0:42:57.359
clips from movie trailers and we’ve

0:42:53.460,0:42:59.069
gotten orders to take down where it’s

0:42:57.359,0:43:01.230
kind of idiotic that you’re having me

0:42:59.069,0:43:03.809
take down free advertising for you but

0:43:01.230,0:43:07.740
okay well we’ll take that we’ve had

0:43:03.809,0:43:10.349
incidents where I’ve used this show as a

0:43:07.740,0:43:12.119
matter of fact our outro music for this

0:43:10.349,0:43:14.670
show our original outro music came from

0:43:12.119,0:43:16.529
a royalty-free site that I paid a

0:43:14.670,0:43:19.920
membership for that site to use their

0:43:16.529,0:43:20.519
material and got notifications for

0:43:19.920,0:43:22.710
takedowns

0:43:20.519,0:43:25.349
even though material that I had I had

0:43:22.710,0:43:27.809
every legal right to use right so I

0:43:25.349,0:43:30.180
could either take it down or I could

0:43:27.809,0:43:36.150
fight them in court and being a non

0:43:30.180,0:43:39.089
profit no profit you know in the in the

0:43:36.150,0:43:40.470
red you know podcasts that we are here

0:43:39.089,0:43:42.359
with our income coming in for the

0:43:40.470,0:43:44.279
podcast I can’t afford to do that right

0:43:42.359,0:43:46.349
so I had to take it down even though I

0:43:44.279,0:43:48.989
had every legal right to use it and the

0:43:46.349,0:43:51.089
paid for that legal right right we had

0:43:48.989,0:43:53.910
an incident where we had a guest of the

0:43:51.089,0:43:55.970
show who was a performer we went to a

0:43:53.910,0:44:02.640
live performance where he was using

0:43:55.970,0:44:06.680
music that was based on original work

0:44:02.640,0:44:10.109
from the Eagles by the way that he had

0:44:06.680,0:44:12.380
rearranged himself and was using a legal

0:44:10.109,0:44:15.660
version of it for backing music for his

0:44:12.380,0:44:19.980
live show which we recorded and included

0:44:15.660,0:44:23.099
on the podcast which was caught by the

0:44:19.980,0:44:25.619
automated algorithms and forced to take

0:44:23.099,0:44:26.870
down I didn’t go and record an Eagles

0:44:25.619,0:44:29.570
concert and prod up there

0:44:26.870,0:44:32.090
I recorded this independent artist who

0:44:29.570,0:44:35.060
was covering the song legally in a

0:44:32.090,0:44:37.820
public venue I had to take it down so

0:44:35.060,0:44:41.390
the system itself doesn’t work I’ll

0:44:37.820,0:44:44.060
totally agree with Don Henley it’s not

0:44:41.390,0:44:47.420
working in his favor right now though

0:44:44.060,0:44:49.730
and that’s where the problem comes where

0:44:47.420,0:44:50.660
the system itself airs on the side of

0:44:49.730,0:44:53.350
the artist

0:44:50.660,0:44:56.240
and the copyright holder right now and

0:44:53.350,0:44:59.150
you have almost no recourse if you’re

0:44:56.240,0:45:01.520
going to use it online the second

0:44:59.150,0:45:06.530
problem that I have is Don Henley is

0:45:01.520,0:45:09.740
appealing to Congress to rule on a law

0:45:06.530,0:45:13.010
that is out of date because of

0:45:09.740,0:45:16.460
Technology one thing that Congress is

0:45:13.010,0:45:19.010
notorious for is being completely

0:45:16.460,0:45:22.250
divorced from any type of technological

0:45:19.010,0:45:27.310
understanding whatsoever they try to

0:45:22.250,0:45:29.420
apply the most draconian simplistic

0:45:27.310,0:45:32.090
viewpoints to anything that has anything

0:45:29.420,0:45:34.820
to do with technology and any time

0:45:32.090,0:45:37.430
Congress or the US government are

0:45:34.820,0:45:40.670
invited to rule on anything with

0:45:37.430,0:45:44.000
technology they invariably always rule

0:45:40.670,0:45:46.670
the the opposite way that they should be

0:45:44.000,0:45:48.770
ruling and it’s because they don’t

0:45:46.670,0:45:50.780
understand the technology they don’t

0:45:48.770,0:45:53.480
understand the implications that it has

0:45:50.780,0:45:56.750
they don’t understand the forethought

0:45:53.480,0:45:58.760
that goes into this you look at things

0:45:56.750,0:46:00.590
like the Patriot Act or the Digital

0:45:58.760,0:46:03.260
Millennium Copyright Act these are all

0:46:00.590,0:46:07.130
things that have hindered technological

0:46:03.260,0:46:10.940
advancement they have stolen away rights

0:46:07.130,0:46:13.700
of citizens because of some high you

0:46:10.940,0:46:16.400
know falutin idea of what the government

0:46:13.700,0:46:18.980
power should be and ultimately every

0:46:16.400,0:46:21.230
time the government is invited to rule

0:46:18.980,0:46:25.120
on laws that are affected by technology

0:46:21.230,0:46:29.810
they do it wrong so as a citizen as a

0:46:25.120,0:46:34.070
technologist as a lover of music and and

0:46:29.810,0:46:38.180
talent like Don Henley I totally support

0:46:34.070,0:46:41.170
his desire to keep his control of his

0:46:38.180,0:46:43.410
music and his content but he’s

0:46:41.170,0:46:46.029
the exact wrong way that he should

0:46:43.410,0:46:48.460
you’re inviting Congress to get involved

0:46:46.029,0:46:49.690
in something they don’t understand that

0:46:48.460,0:46:52.440
they aren’t gonna make the right

0:46:49.690,0:46:55.690
decisions on and ultimately in the end

0:46:52.440,0:46:59.519
I’m going to lose as a consumer he’s

0:46:55.690,0:47:02.349
going to lose as a copyright holder and

0:46:59.519,0:47:03.910
nobody’s going to win the federal

0:47:02.349,0:47:07.089
government is just going to take on more

0:47:03.910,0:47:10.510
and more control and we’re basically all

0:47:07.089,0:47:13.869
screwed if they get involved you see

0:47:10.510,0:47:16.930
what happens when you allow industry

0:47:13.869,0:47:18.819
insiders to dictate copyright policy and

0:47:16.930,0:47:23.289
I’ll give Disney as an example of that

0:47:18.819,0:47:26.339
you know Disney lobbied to move the

0:47:23.289,0:47:29.920
copyright laws for public domain

0:47:26.339,0:47:32.230
material several times in the history of

0:47:29.920,0:47:35.529
copyright law so now your copyright law

0:47:32.230,0:47:39.789
stretches all the way back to like the

0:47:35.529,0:47:41.680
1930s at this point in time because

0:47:39.789,0:47:43.599
Disney wanted to protect Mickey Mouse

0:47:41.680,0:47:47.109
and they didn’t want Mickey Mouse to

0:47:43.599,0:47:49.089
become public domain so anytime that an

0:47:47.109,0:47:52.720
industry giant like that is allowed to

0:47:49.089,0:47:56.140
basically buy legislation I have no idea

0:47:52.720,0:47:58.180
I’m not gonna allege that that’s what

0:47:56.140,0:48:01.450
Don Henley’s doing but anytime that an

0:47:58.180,0:48:05.730
industry giant a studio or a recording

0:48:01.450,0:48:08.500
industry tries to influence Congress

0:48:05.730,0:48:10.420
they’ve got far more chance to buy their

0:48:08.500,0:48:16.240
own legislation than you or I do as

0:48:10.420,0:48:18.640
citizens and it’s dangerous and we’re

0:48:16.240,0:48:19.900
far better off by not having the

0:48:18.640,0:48:24.190
government get involved in things they

0:48:19.900,0:48:27.839
don’t understand so I’m I’m concerned

0:48:24.190,0:48:30.549
the direction that this is going to go

0:48:27.839,0:48:32.349
it doesn’t make me like Bob Henley of

0:48:30.549,0:48:36.390
the Eagles any less though just for the

0:48:32.349,0:48:38.700
record that’s my soapbox thank you

0:48:36.390,0:48:41.680
anyway that was all we had for

0:48:38.700,0:48:43.000
entertainment news this summer we’ll

0:48:41.680,0:48:44.859
take a quick break and we’ll come back

0:48:43.000,0:48:47.519
with our insightful picks of the week

0:48:44.859,0:48:47.519
okay

0:48:51.459,0:49:00.109
go for your insightful pick so my

0:48:55.910,0:49:04.549
insightful pick is a 20/20 documentary

0:49:00.109,0:49:06.380
called a secret love when we first see

0:49:04.549,0:49:09.170
Terry Donahue on screen in the

0:49:06.380,0:49:12.109
documentary a secret love she is wearing

0:49:09.170,0:49:13.489
a green t-shirt with the words there’s

0:49:12.109,0:49:16.279
no crying in baseball

0:49:13.489,0:49:19.699
and movie fans that cherish that line

0:49:16.279,0:49:22.069
from a league of their own in the 1992

0:49:19.699,0:49:24.619
film based on the true story of the

0:49:22.069,0:49:27.049
woman’s first woman’s professional

0:49:24.619,0:49:28.849
baseball league founded in World War two

0:49:27.049,0:49:31.369
and there’s a good reason for that

0:49:28.849,0:49:34.069
because she was one of the real-life

0:49:31.369,0:49:36.920
athletes who played in the mall the

0:49:34.069,0:49:41.390
all-american girl professional baseball

0:49:36.920,0:49:46.869
league so what this documentary is about

0:49:41.390,0:49:52.609
is about these two women who met and

0:49:46.869,0:49:55.130
fell in love and for decades never told

0:49:52.609,0:49:58.969
anybody that they were actually in a

0:49:55.130,0:50:03.019
relationship the two women lived

0:49:58.969,0:50:07.299
together for nearly 60 years and it

0:50:03.019,0:50:11.150
wasn’t until 2009 that they actually

0:50:07.299,0:50:16.869
told their family that they were

0:50:11.150,0:50:20.630
actually a partner in a partnership they

0:50:16.869,0:50:23.119
you know had been out two games for

0:50:20.630,0:50:25.929
decades but obviously it wasn’t until

0:50:23.119,0:50:28.459
much later that they told their family

0:50:25.929,0:50:30.890
the one woman said that she felt like

0:50:28.459,0:50:34.309
she was kind of living a lie and that

0:50:30.890,0:50:36.650
you know she was afraid to tell her

0:50:34.309,0:50:39.769
nieces and nephews because she was

0:50:36.650,0:50:41.150
afraid that they weren’t gonna love her

0:50:39.769,0:50:43.429
anymore

0:50:41.150,0:50:45.799
so the documentary weaves back and forth

0:50:43.429,0:50:50.179
between the present-day and earlier

0:50:45.799,0:50:53.959
moments in Pat and Terry’s life talking

0:50:50.179,0:50:55.960
about how you know living in Canada for

0:50:53.959,0:51:00.880
a little while and

0:50:55.960,0:51:04.270
then living in Chicago and and you know

0:51:00.880,0:51:07.330
moving around and and how you know they

0:51:04.270,0:51:12.190
had to kind of live their life you know

0:51:07.330,0:51:14.589
in secret for for so long you know and

0:51:12.190,0:51:19.560
very interesting so they have old movies

0:51:14.589,0:51:23.109
of them and and video videos and and

0:51:19.560,0:51:25.390
photographs of the two of them and you

0:51:23.109,0:51:27.190
know the the kids you know the nieces

0:51:25.390,0:51:30.820
and nephews we’re always like we just

0:51:27.190,0:51:34.089
thought you guys were good friends and

0:51:30.820,0:51:37.890
they actually did have a they did

0:51:34.089,0:51:40.390
legally get married a couple years back

0:51:37.890,0:51:44.200
they ended up moving into a nursing home

0:51:40.390,0:51:48.280
unfortunately the one woman Pat did pass

0:51:44.200,0:51:50.680
away last year but they were able to

0:51:48.280,0:51:54.099
finally have their truth

0:51:50.680,0:51:58.540
you know out so it’s a very loving story

0:51:54.099,0:52:01.500
of these two women and and to see you

0:51:58.540,0:52:05.200
know the they talk about how the the one

0:52:01.500,0:52:08.670
the one woman her parents they think

0:52:05.200,0:52:11.710
they kind of knew but it was like the

0:52:08.670,0:52:14.380
1930s 1940s and it was again something

0:52:11.710,0:52:16.660
you didn’t talk about but they didn’t

0:52:14.380,0:52:18.070
see anything wrong with them always

0:52:16.660,0:52:20.170
hanging out and there was never that

0:52:18.070,0:52:22.060
pressure of why aren’t you getting

0:52:20.170,0:52:25.050
married why aren’t you having kids or

0:52:22.060,0:52:29.859
you know they just kind of let them be

0:52:25.050,0:52:32.050
and it was nice to just see a nice love

0:52:29.859,0:52:41.589
story but between these two these two

0:52:32.050,0:52:45.460
women nice good pick thank you so my

0:52:41.589,0:52:48.070
pick this week is a documentary back on

0:52:45.460,0:52:50.470
the documentary kick this is actually

0:52:48.070,0:52:54.220
kind of a classic not too classic but

0:52:50.470,0:52:58.390
not new either this is a show called the

0:52:54.220,0:53:02.200
real story on the Smithsonian Channel it

0:52:58.390,0:53:05.009
was produced from 2007 through 2013 with

0:53:02.200,0:53:08.230
some off years in between

0:53:05.009,0:53:10.839
they’ve thrilled us our finest and

0:53:08.230,0:53:12.910
devastated us they’ve raised questions

0:53:10.839,0:53:14.019
about our past and given us hope for a

0:53:12.910,0:53:16.599
brighter future

0:53:14.019,0:53:19.660
they are Hollywood’s biggest hits all

0:53:16.599,0:53:22.509
works of fiction but all inspired by

0:53:19.660,0:53:25.420
real events more dramatic than anything

0:53:22.509,0:53:27.339
a screenwriter could come up with the

0:53:25.420,0:53:30.069
real story goes behind the scenes of

0:53:27.339,0:53:32.259
Hollywood’s biggest movies and uncovers

0:53:30.069,0:53:34.779
the actual characters and true stories

0:53:32.259,0:53:37.390
that inspired them that show explores

0:53:34.779,0:53:39.700
the fictional stories and draws a direct

0:53:37.390,0:53:42.970
parallel to the real stories that

0:53:39.700,0:53:46.480
inspire them explore the facts versus

0:53:42.970,0:53:49.989
fiction of platoon Braveheart Master and

0:53:46.480,0:53:53.680
Commander Apollo 13 Saving Private Ryan

0:53:49.989,0:53:56.109
and more the Saving Private Ryan episode

0:53:53.680,0:53:58.900
for instance shows how the fictional

0:53:56.109,0:54:01.749
story of John Patrick Ryan was drawn

0:53:58.900,0:54:05.130
directly from the story of the Nilan

0:54:01.749,0:54:08.259
brothers almost as a direct comparison

0:54:05.130,0:54:11.559
so the brothers you know the story of

0:54:08.259,0:54:14.140
Private Ryan is you know he’s a one of

0:54:11.559,0:54:16.299
four sons you know in a family that go

0:54:14.140,0:54:19.319
off to fight in World War two his three

0:54:16.299,0:54:24.759
brothers get killed in various ways and

0:54:19.319,0:54:29.380
Tom Hanks and his troupe of commandos

0:54:24.759,0:54:31.960
are sent inland to find Private Ryan who

0:54:29.380,0:54:35.049
was air-dropped in as part of the d-day

0:54:31.960,0:54:38.589
invasion and their jobs to basically

0:54:35.049,0:54:42.789
secure him and bring him back and the

0:54:38.589,0:54:44.289
story itself has a direct parallel to

0:54:42.789,0:54:49.269
the Nilan Bros the whole thing was based

0:54:44.289,0:54:52.660
on the sole survivor rule that was put

0:54:49.269,0:54:55.690
in place after the Sullivan brothers of

0:54:52.660,0:54:57.849
all four of them five of them died on a

0:54:55.690,0:55:00.430
Navy ship and it was torpedoed in a

0:54:57.849,0:55:02.769
South Pacific so the government put in

0:55:00.430,0:55:05.680
this sole survivor so if you’re the last

0:55:02.769,0:55:07.480
survivor of the of an entire family you

0:55:05.680,0:55:10.900
get basically it take it out of the war

0:55:07.480,0:55:13.089
and sent home okay so this same thing

0:55:10.900,0:55:16.059
happened to the Nilan brothers and the

0:55:13.089,0:55:17.460
way that the Nilan brothers met their

0:55:16.059,0:55:20.520
fate

0:55:17.460,0:55:22.560
was portrayed in the movie at southmost

0:55:20.520,0:55:25.320
shot down when was killed at d-day and

0:55:22.560,0:55:27.500
so forth so the so the stories itself

0:55:25.320,0:55:30.750
played out but what’s interesting about

0:55:27.500,0:55:32.130
the real story is they go in and they

0:55:30.750,0:55:35.579
show you the behind the scenes stuff

0:55:32.130,0:55:38.010
they’ll show you like for instance the

0:55:35.579,0:55:41.190
factual stories versus what’s depicted

0:55:38.010,0:55:43.920
in the movie itself they’ll even go so

0:55:41.190,0:55:45.960
far as to do a forensic analysis to see

0:55:43.920,0:55:49.170
if the way things are portrayed in the

0:55:45.960,0:55:53.700
show in the movies actually could happen

0:55:49.170,0:55:55.470
okay and again I I go back to the Saving

0:55:53.700,0:55:57.450
Private Ryan episode there’s a scene

0:55:55.470,0:55:59.820
where they’re landing on the beaches of

0:55:57.450,0:56:01.950
Normandy and they’re jumping over the

0:55:59.820,0:56:03.780
sides of the Higgins boats to avoid

0:56:01.950,0:56:06.650
getting shot coming down the ramps and

0:56:03.780,0:56:09.150
their scenes where they’re in the water

0:56:06.650,0:56:12.690
underwater being shot by incoming

0:56:09.150,0:56:14.910
machine-gun fire and the show itself

0:56:12.690,0:56:17.490
actually goes out and does a forensic

0:56:14.910,0:56:21.150
study of this and tries to recreate that

0:56:17.490,0:56:24.810
by by firing rounds into a tub of water

0:56:21.150,0:56:27.599
to see what the effects are and you know

0:56:24.810,0:56:29.040
they they prove that that aspect of it

0:56:27.599,0:56:31.170
was really a work of fiction in

0:56:29.040,0:56:33.869
Hollywood because bullets don’t behave

0:56:31.170,0:56:36.420
the scene okay in real life as they do

0:56:33.869,0:56:38.670
in the movie there so it’s a very

0:56:36.420,0:56:41.460
interesting approach to looking at the

0:56:38.670,0:56:44.579
movies they look at historic movies they

0:56:41.460,0:56:46.560
look at how they’re portrayed and they

0:56:44.579,0:56:48.510
look at how realistic they are

0:56:46.560,0:56:51.839
Bravehearts another great example okay

0:56:48.510,0:56:53.220
one of the most dramatic scenes in

0:56:51.839,0:56:57.089
Braveheart is a Battle of Stirling

0:56:53.220,0:56:59.609
Bridge where the these Scottish forces

0:56:57.089,0:57:02.490
under the command of William Wallace

0:56:59.609,0:57:06.569
defeat the British at Stirling Bridge

0:57:02.490,0:57:07.950
because of the strategy of boxing them

0:57:06.569,0:57:10.500
in as they cross the bridge and stuff

0:57:07.950,0:57:15.810
like that and they examine the fact that

0:57:10.500,0:57:18.079
in the movie there’s no bridge so they

0:57:15.810,0:57:20.460
completely changed how the movie

0:57:18.079,0:57:22.440
portrayed a Battle of Stirling Bridge

0:57:20.460,0:57:24.329
when by not even having a bridge there

0:57:22.440,0:57:25.740
and but they go and they talk about it

0:57:24.329,0:57:27.660
because Stirling Bridge doesn’t exist

0:57:25.740,0:57:29.400
and it moved and this and then

0:57:27.660,0:57:32.069
and the landscape where they did the

0:57:29.400,0:57:35.010
shooting wasn’t correct for it so it’s

0:57:32.069,0:57:36.839
very interesting to go in and and number

0:57:35.010,0:57:40.589
one see how the movies were shot which

0:57:36.839,0:57:43.770
is always fun but to see how compromises

0:57:40.589,0:57:46.140
had to be me in order to tell the story

0:57:43.770,0:57:49.349
because sometimes the stories themselves

0:57:46.140,0:57:51.359
the real stories no pun intended

0:57:49.349,0:57:54.150
don’t always flow well enough for the

0:57:51.359,0:57:56.730
movie screen so sometimes your directors

0:57:54.150,0:57:59.390
have to take some creative shortcuts in

0:57:56.730,0:58:02.250
order to keep the story itself flowing

0:57:59.390,0:58:04.920
so it’s a very interesting show there’s

0:58:02.250,0:58:08.299
a I think five seasons in total across

0:58:04.920,0:58:10.950
that time and they tackle all kinds of

0:58:08.299,0:58:20.250
different movies there so the real story

0:58:10.950,0:58:22.589
on the Smithsonian Channel very cool so

0:58:20.250,0:58:23.970
I think that was all we had this week

0:58:22.589,0:58:28.230
you didn’t have any afterthoughts or

0:58:23.970,0:58:31.170
anything did you nothing today I think

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