Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 150 “A Strong Finish”

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Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 150 “A Strong Finish”
My rested and relaxed co-host Michelle Whalen

[SHOW SUMMARY] (2-3 minutes)
After a long hiatus we’re back with a revamped studio and some interesting experiences to share. The first was from our trip to Niagara falls. Then a new convention came to town. And then we’ll wrap up with thoughts on a few of our favorite shows coming to an end.
But before we do that, I’d like to invite our listening and viewing audience to subscribe to the podcast.

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[SEGMENT 1:] (8-12 minutes)
-The Strong National Museum of Play
https://www.museumofplay.org/
https://bit.ly/3PAtSmY

The Strong National Museum of Play (known as just The Strong Museum or simply the Strong) is part of The Strong in Rochester, New York. Established in 1969 and based initially on the personal collection of Rochester native Margaret Woodbury Strong, the museum opened to the public in 1982, after several years of planning, cataloging, and exhibition development for the museum's new building in downtown Rochester.

For at least fifteen years after its opening, the mission of the museum was to interpret the social and cultural history of average Americans between 1830 and 1940, under the direction of H.J. Swinney and William T. Alderson. Mrs. Strong’s collections of dolls and toys, American and European decorative arts, prints, paintings, Japanese crafts, and advertising ephemera provided a firm foundation for this mission, and were supplemented with collections purchased and donated to more fully support the museum’s early mission. The museum received considerable local and national publicity and support and substantial financial support from the National Endowment for the Humanities’ Exhibitions and Public Programs division.

In the 1990s, the museum’s Board of Trustees and director changed the museum’s mission to collecting, preserving, and interpreting the history of play. Since then it has refined and increased its collections (hundreds of thousands of items), and expanded twice, in 1997 and 2006.

The museum is now one of five Play Partners of The Strong, which is also home to the National Toy Hall of Fame, the International Center for the History of Electronic Games, and the Brian Sutton-Smith Library and Archives of Play, and produces the American Journal of Play.

The National Museum of Play is the only collections-based museum anywhere devoted solely to the study of play, and although it is a history museum, it has the interactive characteristics of a children’s museum, making it the second largest museum of that type in the United States. The museum includes exhibits that interpret the key elements of play, as well as allow guests to explore the worlds of Sesame Street, The Berenstain Bears, Reading Adventureland, and the Dancing Wings Butterfly Garden.

The museum’s exhibits are immersively themed for video games, storybooks, television shows, education, nature, history, comic books, carousel and train rides, and children’s lifestyles. eGameRevolution is the first permanent video game exhibit in the US and includes the World Video Game Hall of Fame. The National Toy Hall of Fame is at the museum. Dancing Wings Butterfly Garden features thousands of butterflies, and is the largest indoor butterfly garden in New York. The Berenstain Bears: Down a Sunny Dirt Road is an original, permanent exhibit produced in partnership with the Berenstain family.

[SEGMENT 2:] (8-12 minutes)

Con Tropolis PA
https://www.contropolispa.com/venue
https://bit.ly/3plsv0Z
This was held this year at the Greater Philadelphia Expo Center at Oaks

Organized by Altered Reality Entertainment

From the producers of Rhode Island Comic Con, the largest pop culture event in New England, comes a new convention phenomenon-Contropolis!
This was the first time for this Con in the Area.
It happens to be one of our favorite locations since the space it huge, and there is ample free parking
Overall, it wasn’t a bad Con – just under advertised
We usually don’t attend these to see the Celebrities, but we know others do, so this really wasn’t the Con to go to if you wanted to see some big name people.
When Corey Feldman has your longest line, you know this isn’t a big con
It was interesting to see Jamie Farr & Loretta Swit both from MASH

[SEGMENT 3:] (8-12 minutes)

-Show Wrap ups
So 2 of our favorite shows had series finales in the last few months (or since we last did a podcast)

https://www.amc.com/shows/the-walking-dead–1002293
https://bit.ly/3XDjgG8

First would be the long running original Walking Dead
Based on the comic book series written by Robert Kirkman, this gritty drama portrays life in the months and years that follow a zombie apocalypse. A group of survivors travel in search of safety and security, constantly on the move in search of a secure home. But the pressure each day to stay alive sends many in the group to the deepest depths of human cruelty, and they soon discover that the overwhelming fear of the survivors can be more deadly than the zombies walking among them. At times, the interpersonal conflicts present a greater threat to their continuing survival than the walkers that roam the country.
With 6 spinoffs now, the OG, in most cases, rewrote what a Zombie Show could be. While some seasons were much better than others, it’s hard after 11 seasons to keep everyone happy. But over all we enjoyed the series & the way they ended it was much different than the comic.

Star Trek: Picard
https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/star-trek-picard/
https://bit.ly/3pwQjyT

This aired for 3 seasons and ended with a wrap up that was really a love letter to fans of TNG.
The series begins in 2399, 20 years after Jean-Luc Picard’s last appearance in Star Trek: Nemesis (2002), and finds the character deeply affected by the death of Data in that film as well as the destruction of the planet Romulus in the film Star Trek (2009). Retired from Starfleet and living on his family’s vineyard, Picard is drawn into a new adventure when he is visited by a synthetic “daughter” of Data, one of several new synthetic beings or “synths”. Picard fights for their right to exist and gives his life to save them.

After Picard’s consciousness is transferred into a synthetic body, the second season moves forward to 2401. Picard and his companions are living new lives when his old adversary Q traps them in an alternate reality. They must travel back in time to the 21st century to save the future of the galaxy. In the third season, Picard learns that he has a son who is being hunted by mysterious enemies. He reunites with the former crew of the USS Enterprise to protect his son and face a new invasion by the Borg.

[SEGMENT 4:] (8-12 minutes)

Afterthoughts
Disney’s Galactic Starcruiser final voyage
Philly Pops/Kimmel center stealing peoples money

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00:00:02:15 – 00:00:52:02
Michelle
Insightful podcasts by informative host insights into Things, a podcast network editor. Welcome to Insights into Entertainment, a podcast series Taking a deeper look into entertainment and media. Your hosts, Joseph and Michelle Whelan, a husband and wife team of pop culture fanatics, are exploring all things from music and movies to television and fandom.

00:00:52:05 – 00:01:05:22
Joseph
Welcome to Insights into Entertainment. This is episode 158 Strong finish. I’m your host, Joseph Whelan, and my rested and relaxed co-host Michelle Whelan.

00:01:05:27 – 00:01:06:28
Michelle
Hi, everyone.

00:01:06:29 – 00:01:08:02
Joseph
How you doing today, dear?

00:01:08:04 – 00:01:09:10
Michelle
I’m good. How are you?

00:01:09:12 – 00:01:14:01
Joseph
I’m doing well. Now that I’ve gotten everything back up and running here.

00:01:14:03 – 00:01:15:14
Michelle
And you’re not cursing.

00:01:15:14 – 00:01:26:29
Joseph
Or it’s shocks me. We just did a podcast yesterday. Everything worked perfectly fine for out. The whole thing didn’t do anything. The configuration came in, turn everything back on, and nothing works.

00:01:27:00 – 00:01:27:19
Michelle
Nothing works.

00:01:27:19 – 00:01:31:20
Joseph
Of course it always is. And I love I love technology.

00:01:31:20 – 00:01:32:22
Michelle
Yes, you do.

00:01:32:23 – 00:01:41:24
Joseph
That is the bane of my existence most days. So we’re back after a relatively long hiatus.

00:01:41:26 – 00:01:43:17
Michelle
Yeah. I don’t even remember the last.

00:01:43:19 – 00:01:45:19
Joseph
It’s been quite some time. Yeah.

00:01:45:20 – 00:01:48:02
Michelle
Yeah, it’s been a while for us.

00:01:48:09 – 00:01:54:01
Joseph
We’ve. Yeah, we have. You know, we’ve been recording our other ones, which is that we haven’t found all that much to talk about.

00:01:54:02 – 00:01:57:24
Michelle
Right. Because we, we kind of feel like we’re in a little bit of a rut.

00:01:57:26 – 00:01:58:07
Joseph
Yeah.

00:01:58:08 – 00:02:22:29
Michelle
Where we’re not sure where we want to go with things. And, you know, for those of you listening, watching, you know, maybe give us some ideas, what is it that you like about our podcast? What don’t you like about our podcast? What can we do to improve? What would you like to hear us talk about or not talk about or review or whatnot?

00:02:23:02 – 00:02:29:15
Michelle
I think that’s where we kind of were feeling like we were more like an entertainment show.

00:02:29:17 – 00:02:34:02
Joseph
Yeah, well, insights in entertainment kind of would have made sense being an entertainment show, right?

00:02:34:02 – 00:02:36:27
Michelle
But like, like an Entertainment Tonight.

00:02:36:27 – 00:02:41:00
Joseph
Or like we were saying, we were doing too much news reporting and.

00:02:41:03 – 00:02:56:17
Michelle
Right. Right. And it was something where we wanted to be topical, but we also didn’t want it to be, oh, you know, you know, this person passed away or, you know, this thing or that.

00:02:56:17 – 00:03:00:21
Joseph
But we didn’t want to regurgitate somebody else’s news stories and just stick to that.

00:03:00:22 – 00:03:08:20
Michelle
Right. So we’re still kind of trying to figure out what what it is that we want, I guess. And so, again.

00:03:08:23 – 00:03:14:13
Joseph
Because 140 some episodes do realize we didn’t like what we were. Go figure.

00:03:14:15 – 00:03:19:20
Michelle
Yeah, we’ve had different variations throughout the 150 episodes we have.

00:03:19:20 – 00:03:21:00
Joseph
We’ve we’ve tried different.

00:03:21:00 – 00:03:24:21
Michelle
You know, things. Some podcasts don’t even make it to 150.

00:03:24:27 – 00:03:27:04
Joseph
So yeah, that’s true. That’s very true.

00:03:27:04 – 00:03:32:25
Michelle
So there’s that. So again, we’re still trying to figure out what we want to be when we.

00:03:32:28 – 00:03:34:08
Joseph
Write, if we want to grow, if.

00:03:34:08 – 00:03:35:15
Michelle
We want to grow up. Well.

00:03:35:17 – 00:03:56:21
Joseph
That seems to be the real challenge. Yeah, no, but after a long hiatus, we’re back in a revamped studio. We completely redid the studio. We upgraded some of our equipment. If you had watched previous episodes of the podcast, you’ll notice that our our positions are reversed, so we change things up dramatically there.

00:03:56:21 – 00:03:58:03
Michelle
Yep.

00:03:58:06 – 00:04:22:14
Joseph
And we had some interesting experiences to share. First, that we’re going to talk about was from a trip we took up to Niagara Falls a few weeks back and fun with that. And so that was an interesting, sad little town because we didn’t have I didn’t have my passport and had it never so we couldn’t go into the fun part of Niagara Falls, which is the Canadian side.

00:04:22:15 – 00:04:24:11
Michelle
Yeah, we’ll get more into that.

00:04:24:17 – 00:04:49:22
Joseph
Yeah. So let’s start by and we have a new convention in town which we attended. That was potentially a really good convention. I just didn’t advertise right. So hopefully the turnout didn’t turn them off and they will be back. Yeah. And then we’re going to wrap up with some thoughts on a few of our favorite shows coming to an end.

00:04:49:24 – 00:05:20:15
Joseph
And then we have some afterthoughts that I just threw in literally in the last 5 minutes to finish things off with. But before we do that, though, I do want to take a moment to invite our listening and viewing audience to subscribe to the podcast. You can find audio versions of this podcast listed as insights into entertainment. And as always, you can find audio and video of all the network’s podcast listeners insights into things.

00:05:20:18 – 00:05:44:13
Joseph
We’re available on Google, Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, pretty much anywhere you can get a podcast. I’d also invite you to write in which, you know, we’ve already solicited your your input here, but you can email that over to us at comments and insights into things dot com. You can hit us on Twitter at insights, underscore things or you can find links to all that and more on our official website.

00:05:44:15 – 00:05:47:21
Joseph
Insights into things dot com. Shall we get into it?

00:05:47:24 – 00:05:48:20
Michelle
Sure. Let’s do.

00:05:48:20 – 00:05:55:03
Joseph
It. Here we go.

00:05:55:06 – 00:06:18:26
Joseph
So the first thing we’re going to talk about is the strong National Museum of Play, which when we were up in Niagara Falls, we actually went out to Rochester for a day trip because it’s a bit of a bit of a ride from Niagara Falls and found that we probably need it much more than one day at a British museum.

00:06:18:27 – 00:06:24:28
Michelle
Yeah, it was definitely. We spent pretty much.

00:06:25:00 – 00:06:25:07
Joseph
The.

00:06:25:07 – 00:06:59:06
Michelle
Whole day there and we still didn’t get to see everything there were a few areas that we unfortunately, we were just tired because we didn’t expect to have so much to see and we kind of said if we ever come back to the area, we would probably do an overnight in Rochester just because Rochester had so many different things to to see and do that we didn’t get a chance to to do so.

00:06:59:08 – 00:07:05:29
Michelle
Now, this was something you had heard about the museum. You remembered it from a show that you watch.

00:07:06:00 – 00:07:26:12
Joseph
Yes, it was it it appeared in fact, they had a display at the at the museum. It was the most appearing facility on the TV show that I watch called Mysteries at the Museum that goes around and profiles different exhibits at various museums. And it was appeared on the show, I think, 17 times.

00:07:26:13 – 00:07:27:19
Michelle
Yeah. Yeah, something like that.

00:07:27:19 – 00:07:38:02
Joseph
So that was where I had heard about it. And on the drive up I was looking for things that we could do and it came up in there and I thought, Hey, that would be really neat. But not on the way up because.

00:07:38:04 – 00:07:39:06
Michelle
Right. Because it was going.

00:07:39:06 – 00:07:39:18
Joseph
To take some.

00:07:39:18 – 00:08:04:22
Michelle
Time, right? Because at first we were like, Oh, right. Well, do you know, do we do it on our way to Niagara? Do we take it as a day trip? And as it turned out, because we really didn’t have anything planned for for our trip, we said, okay, well, this will be the day that will we’ll go. And it ended up probably being the highlight of of our trip besides the one restaurant that we really enjoyed.

00:08:04:22 – 00:08:05:24
Michelle
But that’s a whole other.

00:08:05:27 – 00:08:42:23
Joseph
We’ll plug them to Bill from the time we’re done there. So but yeah no the the strong National Museum of Flight also known as just the strong is in Rochester in New York. It was established in 1969 based initially on a personal collection of a Rochester native, Margaret Woodbury Strong. The museum opened to the public in 1982 after several years of planning, cataloging and and exhibition development for the museum’s new building in downtown Rochester, which the building itself is just amazing to see.

00:08:42:23 – 00:08:53:28
Joseph
It’s massive. It’s got probably one of the most incredible designs I’ve ever seen for a museum itself, both inside and outside. And it’s just a wonder to see.

00:08:53:29 – 00:09:36:17
Michelle
Yeah. So for the for at least 15 years after its opening, the mission of the museum was to interpret the social and cultural history of average Americans between 1830 and 1940 under the direction of H.J. Sweeney and William T Anderson, Mrs. Strong’s collection of dolls and toys American and European Decorative Arts, prints, paintings, Japanese crafts and advertising provided a firm foundation for this mission and were supplement supplemented with collections purchased and donated to more fully support.

00:09:36:17 – 00:09:52:29
Michelle
The museum’s early mission. The museum received considerable local and national publicity and support and substantial financial support from the National Endowment for the Humanities Exhibition and Public Programs Division.

00:09:53:02 – 00:10:18:15
Joseph
And in 1998, the museum’s Board of Trustees and Director changed the museum’s mission to collecting, preserving and interpreting the history of play. Since then, it was refined and has increased its collections, hundreds of thousands of them. And believe me, we didn’t get to see them all. There’s so many there, right? It’s been expanded twice. And in 1999 it was expanded twice.

00:10:18:15 – 00:10:40:27
Joseph
In 97 and 26. The museum is now one of the five play partners of the Strong, which is also home to the National Toy Hall of Fame, the International Center for the History of Electronic Games and the Bryan Sutton Smith Library and Archive gives of play and produces the American Journal of Play.

00:10:41:00 – 00:11:16:29
Michelle
The National Museum of Play is the only collections based museum anywhere devoted solely to the study of play. And although it is a history museum, it has the interactive characteristic of a children’s museum, making it the second largest museum of that type in the United States. The museum includes exhibits that interpret the key elements of play, as well as allow guests to explore the worlds of Sesame Street, the Berenstain Bears, Reading Adventure Land and the Dancing Wings, Butterfly Garden.

00:11:17:02 – 00:11:46:13
Joseph
The museum’s exhibits are impressively themed for video games, storybooks, television shows, education, nature, history, comic books, carousel and train rides. And they do have a massive carousel there. And children’s lifestyles E Game revolution is the first permanent video game exhibit in the U.S. and includes the World Video Game Hall of Fame. The National Toy Hall of Fame is at the Museum.

00:11:46:15 – 00:12:13:27
Joseph
Dancing Wings. Butterfly, as we mentioned, already features thousands of butterflies and is the largest indoor butterfly garden in New York. The Berenstein bears Down a sunny dirt Road is an original permanent exhibit produced in partnership with the Berenstein family. So I was in all really of the whole thing. It was just shocking the size, the quality of the collection.

00:12:13:29 – 00:12:36:12
Joseph
One of the things that really kind of caught my attention was a number of the exhibits were interactive in that they would ask your input. Mm hmm. And as you provided your input, they would tally the input of the visitors and use it in the various studies that they do that they released in their in their magazines and books.

00:12:36:14 – 00:12:54:01
Joseph
So it was kind of neat being able to be part of that, you know, little, little bit a part of that, that history and that. But knowledge that’s preserved there. But unfortunately, we we just didn’t get to see the whole thing. We didn’t have enough time to see the whole thing.

00:12:54:02 – 00:13:21:25
Michelle
Right. Because again, it was just one exhibit after another and it was like, well, what’s around this corner? What’s what’s this corner? And it was just so well done. And what was interesting was going back, which I did today, because they did have a bunch of different plaques about Margaret Woodbury Strong and her background, and she was an only child and her parents were very affluent and she traveled a lot with her parents.

00:13:21:27 – 00:13:47:06
Michelle
So by the time she was 11, she had probably seen more of the world than most people do in a lifetime. And because of that, she would always collect little toys and treasures from from these trips. And her parents were also collectors as well. You know, her father collected coins and her mother collected Japanese art. So it was kind of like the hobby of collecting things.

00:13:47:12 – 00:14:14:15
Michelle
And that’s how her personal collection actually started, to the point where she actually built two wings on to her house in Rochester to display these things and would have people come to her house and sign a little guest registry that they had been there. And over time, that was when the Historical Society kind of came in and said, Hey, we really should do something with these.

00:14:14:21 – 00:14:44:28
Michelle
And that was kind of the start of the museum. And when she passed away, she had willed all of the items to to start this this foundation. So, you know, it was all started just by a little girl collecting, you know, toys and and just at the time to be able to to see. And that’s what’s so interesting is, you know, some of the sections they kind of go through the history of here’s the history of a doll, you know, from the 1800s to now.

00:14:45:03 – 00:15:07:15
Michelle
And it’s it’s so well done and so well preserved. And then you have, you know, the board game section and here’s what board games were like in the 1800s to now and and again, just the video game section, which was we probably could have spent so much more time just with the video games and the history of the video games and and how it’s evolved.

00:15:07:15 – 00:15:36:20
Michelle
And you figure the video games, that’s a much smaller window of of time that they have been around versus, you know, some of the other things. So it was just so, so much to do and for all ages because and it was funny because when we were thinking about going we know of the Please Touch museum in Philly, and that’s one of those things where little kids go once you kids get to a certain age, you know, you don’t usually go back there.

00:15:36:22 – 00:15:59:13
Michelle
But with this, there were people there that didn’t have kids who were visiting the museum because there’s just so much to see and do. It’s a real museum. And and for, you know, the kids at heart or, you know, you played, you know, anybody that goes there, you’re going to find something that you’ve played with that was in your personal collection there.

00:15:59:15 – 00:16:09:25
Michelle
And, you know, just finding the history of Legos and how Legos kind of came to be. And that was really fascinating and and all the different things.

00:16:10:01 – 00:16:38:14
Joseph
And the other thing the other thing that really kind of struck me was that the entire facility was geared towards play and entertainment to the point that even when we went to get lunch, the cafeteria where they serve lunch, you had a a skywalk that you could do and it was various levels and the kids strapped into these harnesses and could walk the sky over your head while you’re eating, while you’re eating lunch.

00:16:38:14 – 00:16:57:27
Joseph
Or even when we left, they had a little coffee shop where when you come in and you leave or you just offer you a little snack, little pastry have a little refreshment, but they’ve got board games on the shelf there that you can just pull away while you’re sitting there eating. So like literally everything that they had there was geared towards it.

00:16:57:27 – 00:17:09:09
Joseph
It was it was one of the most immersive experiences in the in the spirit of what the museum stood for that I’ve ever seen. Yeah. Yeah. So.

00:17:09:09 – 00:17:32:16
Michelle
Oh, and the other thing that was really interesting was they had books all over the place that you could take out from their library. So obviously we couldn’t have done it because that’s we’re not local. I’m sure that, you know, it’s something where you go to check it out. But, you know, hey, if you’re little Tommy’s reading, reading a book and thought it was really cool.

00:17:32:22 – 00:17:38:05
Michelle
Well, borrow it. It’s a big, giant library with everything else.

00:17:38:06 – 00:18:00:11
Joseph
Yeah, well, and even to that, to the point over where the Berenstein bears is, they have an entire storybook here. And it’s not just a place where you can sit and read. It’s a place where they’ve got the props and they’ve got the toys and they’ve got the scenery. It’s a place where the books that the kids are reading can come to life right in front of you there.

00:18:00:11 – 00:18:10:21
Joseph
Right. I like I can’t imagine driving somebody’s imagination any better than that. The one was the mystery room. Yes. Talk about that for that.

00:18:10:27 – 00:18:30:05
Michelle
That was kind of really, really cool. We kind of came around this corner and it was kind of set up like a haunted house. But what was awesome was it had like secret passageways where you could go behind the walls and spy on the people that were in the room.

00:18:30:06 – 00:18:32:25
Joseph
Portrait You could.

00:18:32:28 – 00:19:06:19
Michelle
Through the portrait and then on when you were on the other side, they there was an area where there were buttons to do sound effects so you could make it sound like a screeching cat or a ghost or chains and scare the people that are in the other room. So, you know, that was just really neat. One of the other sections that Mattie and I had gone to where it was kind of the fairy tale area, they had a big like giant and they had like a pirate ship.

00:19:06:19 – 00:19:25:22
Michelle
Or you could walk across the pirate ship and then there was a bridge, and then there was like a little nook area where you could kind of sit and just read if you wanted to. That was up back, hidden away, you know, away from everything. So all these little nooks and crannies of places to go and hide and explore.

00:19:25:28 – 00:19:42:27
Michelle
And when you get someplace, oh, look, there’s a plaque and here’s some information about a story that this is based upon or something. So just really cool, just so much to to see and do where it would really be nice to to go back there and.

00:19:43:01 – 00:19:43:10
Joseph
Yeah.

00:19:43:15 – 00:19:44:03
Michelle
And you.

00:19:44:03 – 00:19:48:20
Joseph
Know two days when you need to figure out a way to plan to get back up in that area and see that.

00:19:48:25 – 00:19:54:21
Michelle
You know, the Rochester Institute of Technology, since we’re going to be visiting some colleges.

00:19:54:23 – 00:20:05:03
Joseph
This coming year. That is true. So anyway, that was the strong museum of Play that we went to, and there’ll be links in the show notes if.

00:20:05:08 – 00:20:07:16
Michelle
Did you have a video for that?

00:20:07:18 – 00:20:15:25
Joseph
Oh, actually, I think I did, and I didn’t play it. I guess I should have probably have played that. We probably could have talked over the okay.

00:20:15:27 – 00:20:20:23
Michelle
We we we like it so much. We’ll do it again.

00:20:20:25 – 00:20:28:00
Joseph
They had yeah they had a giant Mr. Potato Head that was a remote control Mr. Potato Head to go play with.

00:20:28:02 – 00:20:30:12
Michelle
Oh and the superhero section which was.

00:20:30:12 – 00:20:40:02
Joseph
Their superhero section was huge. Yeah. Yeah. They had interactive things that you could do there, You could great picture opportunities for.

00:20:40:05 – 00:20:42:00
Michelle
Sort of the little fairy tale.

00:20:42:00 – 00:20:49:09
Joseph
Gingerbread house. You had a parcel there, you had a dragon, you know, everything was so interactive. Oh, this.

00:20:49:09 – 00:20:58:23
Michelle
Was one of the hidden nook areas, you know, And then again, Harry Potter stuff, Narnia stuff. So up until, you know, current items and.

00:20:58:25 – 00:21:08:15
Joseph
Some of this stuff was like literally museum grade things that you would not normally find in stores and stuff as well. They had a train. You know, they had a train inside, too, right?

00:21:08:15 – 00:21:27:29
Michelle
They did actually have. Yeah. And then the the different, you know, school area type things, then a whole huge section of sesame Street with a huge big bird and and play area and stuff. And then here’s part of the history of the doll.

00:21:27:29 – 00:21:42:08
Joseph
And the dolls were one of the interactive ones too, where you got the they asked you a series of questions about the dolls is are they showed you like the 1860s dolls in the mountains and they as simple questions like are these the same type of play? And they went, oh, and.

00:21:42:08 – 00:21:59:14
Michelle
Of course the little play Wegmans that you could go into and shop, which is adorable because we love Wegmans. And then, you know, basically any character, you know, and our daughter loves SpongeBob. So that was, oh, yay, SpongeBob was was there.

00:21:59:16 – 00:22:18:24
Joseph
The video game section was was it because it was a walk down memory lane to begin with because there was a lot of home video games and stuff like that. A lot of classic World War two error type toys that were in there that you you just don’t see. And tons of Star Wars. They had probably four or five different Star Wars displays, which was right.

00:22:18:25 – 00:22:21:28
Michelle
And it was Star Wars of every generation.

00:22:21:28 – 00:22:22:20
Joseph
Right know.

00:22:22:23 – 00:22:25:11
Michelle
Between the old, the new the original.

00:22:25:16 – 00:22:30:18
Joseph
No sequels we’re which I was okay with you were totally okay.

00:22:30:20 – 00:22:34:18
Michelle
Buffy was was even represented.

00:22:34:21 – 00:22:56:02
Joseph
Action figures had their own section there which was awesome. They had the original promise box for the 1970 78 Star Wars figures and then just classic toys that if you saw anywhere else, they would look like creepy doll right.

00:22:56:02 – 00:22:56:21
Michelle
But when they’re.

00:22:56:24 – 00:22:57:06
Joseph
All.

00:22:57:09 – 00:22:57:26
Michelle
Together.

00:22:57:26 – 00:23:01:10
Joseph
Presented so well here that you could appreciate the history.

00:23:01:10 – 00:23:07:24
Michelle
Yeah yeah. And you go, oh, wow. And again you go, I had that or, you.

00:23:07:24 – 00:23:13:06
Joseph
Know, and that was every quarter you turn it. Oh, I had that. I play with my name behind it. Right.

00:23:13:06 – 00:23:16:27
Michelle
I’ve played with that before. I had that before.

00:23:17:00 – 00:23:30:23
Joseph
Remember they had a light bright section there in the video game section. They even had recovered a copy of the E.T. game that was buried out in the desert. That was funny. That was it. And I.

00:23:30:23 – 00:23:33:13
Michelle
Tried playing that and realized, wow, this really this game.

00:23:33:13 – 00:23:37:00
Joseph
Really does. Oh, and they’re Dollhouse section.

00:23:37:05 – 00:23:37:28
Michelle
Oh, my gosh.

00:23:38:04 – 00:23:42:21
Joseph
They had every possible dollhouse room imaginable. Right.

00:23:42:24 – 00:24:17:02
Michelle
And display like multiple houses and basically explaining how doll houses here. Here’s the first Lego set. But what the dollhouse is talking about how usually it was a model of the child’s own house made with pieces from their house and, you know, kind of a history of how Dollhouse was kind of came to be. And that the idea behind, you know, a dollhouse was to, you know, a little girl to be prepared to be a mom and have her own house.

00:24:17:02 – 00:24:22:09
Joseph
And, you know, and you learn that Samsonite was the first year in the United States for Lego.

00:24:22:11 – 00:24:23:28
Michelle
Want luggage.

00:24:24:00 – 00:24:24:13
Joseph
Yeah.

00:24:24:20 – 00:24:35:24
Michelle
What, you bought a piece of luggage and you got a Lego house. What? How would how did that happen? So that was, you know, amazing to see. And and of course, you need solitaire.

00:24:35:27 – 00:24:44:26
Joseph
All right. So you had solitaire and that was like it was a dedicated display just for solitaire because you had the old mouse and everything.

00:24:44:29 – 00:24:57:17
Michelle
And which my mom had. So it was kind of funny. And the World Almanac to play. Where in the world is Carmen? San Diego, right? You didn’t have Google to look up things.

00:24:57:19 – 00:25:09:04
Joseph
And that’s the thing with a lot of their displays. It wasn’t just, oh, here’s the topic, it’s here’s all the supporting things that went around with it, right? That you that made it all that more familiar for you.

00:25:09:05 – 00:25:32:08
Michelle
Yeah, absolutely. And it was good that we took all these pictures because we were running out of time to here’s the whole thing with the, the e t you know, being buried and stuff like that. But just to be able to go back and look and see what we what we missed really. But yeah, at least got pictures of and.

00:25:32:10 – 00:25:53:03
Joseph
Well what was neat was they gave it all to you in mostly in chronological order. So you can actually see the evolution, whether it was the evolution of play, the evolution of the technology. You could see how you got from the 1970s, I’ll say, which is, you know, kind of where I pick things up up until modern times.

00:25:53:03 – 00:26:04:14
Joseph
And you can see how the technology changed and you realize people still play the same way, right? You know, that really hasn’t changed all that much. It’s just the toys, the tools that we used to play.

00:26:04:14 – 00:26:08:01
Michelle
We’re a little bit more sophisticated.

00:26:08:01 – 00:26:11:17
Joseph
Yeah, with the way. Absolutely.

00:26:11:20 – 00:26:15:04
Michelle
But to be able to play some of these older toys.

00:26:15:07 – 00:26:19:08
Joseph
With the selection of board games that they had was mind blowing.

00:26:19:08 – 00:26:23:11
Michelle
Games I didn’t even know existed.

00:26:23:13 – 00:26:39:15
Joseph
And they even, you know, they still take donations of toys and games and stuff like that. And they’ll curate them. They’ll get the backstory for them and, you know, they make them available on display. I can only imagine if that’s everything that they’ve got on display there.

00:26:39:16 – 00:26:40:05
Michelle
What they what.

00:26:40:05 – 00:26:43:18
Joseph
Do they have that they don’t have room for right now? Because this players.

00:26:43:19 – 00:26:56:13
Michelle
You know, that they probably, you know, move stuff in and out, change the displays. You know, every now and then. So yeah I can’t even imagine what their their back.

00:26:56:13 – 00:27:23:02
Joseph
Room looks like and the technology that they had on display and they had one room where it was probably a massive wall that was, I don’t know, 50 feet long and it had projections on it, projectors, you know, throwing various interactive things on there. But you could walk into the projection and actually interact with the displays. You could it was a toy store, a kid’s toy room that they were displaying.

00:27:23:04 – 00:27:25:13
Joseph
You had was part of the.

00:27:25:15 – 00:27:27:09
Michelle
Toy Hall of Fame display.

00:27:27:14 – 00:27:28:05
Joseph
You could walk.

00:27:28:05 – 00:27:30:08
Michelle
Over, which is what these pictures are.

00:27:30:10 – 00:27:56:18
Joseph
Virtually pick something off off the shelf and play with it or bounce a ball or whatever. Right, Right. And then you had the one wall that was the tall screen. Mhm. That you were able to do interactive bubble popping and stuff like that. So just a lot of different things to keep you occupied, to keep your mind engaged and to just have fun.

00:27:56:18 – 00:27:59:28
Michelle
Yeah. And that’s, that was really the whole point of it.

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Joseph
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00:29:16:21 – 00:29:46:11
Michelle
So welcome back. So for our next segment we’re going to be talking about one of the newer conventions that came to town this past May. It was called Con Trop Ellis P.A. and this year it was held at the Greater Philadelphia Expo Center in Oaks. It’s organized by Altered Reality Entertainment. And they are the producers of the Rhode Island Comic Con, which is the largest pop culture event in New England.

00:29:46:14 – 00:29:53:24
Michelle
And it come, you know, and this is the first time that they’ve done something in the Philly area.

00:29:53:26 – 00:29:59:27
Joseph
That’s pretty cool. It was huge. They had, I think, what, four halls? I think they had open for.

00:29:59:28 – 00:30:00:28
Michelle
Yeah, I think so.

00:30:01:04 – 00:30:07:21
Joseph
They had the cars. They had tons and tons of vendors and vendors that we hadn’t even seen before.

00:30:07:22 – 00:30:21:03
Michelle
Right. Because a lot of the vendors were from the New England area. Right. Because we did talk with a few of them just to kind of see, you know, how things had been, because we had gone. Did we go on Saturday? Did we go on Sunday?

00:30:21:03 – 00:30:22:06
Joseph
We went on Sunday.

00:30:22:07 – 00:30:42:14
Michelle
We went on Sunday. And we you know, and normally we go on Sundays, and Sundays are usually a little quieter, but it just seemed very quiet. So we had asked, oh, were you guys busy, you know, Friday and Saturday? And they said the crowds really were in that big. And it seemed that they really hadn’t advertised it.

00:30:42:20 – 00:30:57:06
Joseph
Right. And there was a lot of stuff going on in Philly that weekend. They had playoffs for one of the sports teams going on and a bunch of other things were going on that weekend. So it was kind of a perfect storm of things that that.

00:30:57:09 – 00:30:57:22
Michelle
Right.

00:30:57:24 – 00:31:10:22
Joseph
Played against their ability to to really put people in the in the convention there. But the ones the vendors, they had a lot of vendors that were there. They had some vendors who didn’t come back in for four Sunday I think, because they.

00:31:10:22 – 00:31:13:18
Michelle
Were like because there were some empty spots.

00:31:13:21 – 00:31:26:06
Joseph
But the vendors that they had, there were quality products that they had there. We fact we found a new vendor that we wound up buying quite a bit of.

00:31:26:08 – 00:31:30:26
Michelle
Usually wound up buying.

00:31:30:28 – 00:31:33:09
Joseph
What did I get? I got the red five.

00:31:33:09 – 00:31:34:03
Michelle
That was them.

00:31:34:05 – 00:31:35:29
Joseph
Red five. Yeah.

00:31:36:01 – 00:31:40:18
Michelle
So that’s, that’s me trying to convince our daughter to sew.

00:31:40:22 – 00:31:44:20
Joseph
So Matty bought her SpongeBob. What kind of backpack was it?

00:31:44:24 – 00:31:45:15
Michelle
Lounge. Flight.

00:31:45:16 – 00:31:52:14
Joseph
Lounge, flight, backpack. I bought my ray force effects light saber.

00:31:52:15 – 00:31:54:09
Michelle
I bought a haunted mansion keychain.

00:31:54:10 – 00:32:10:08
Joseph
Yeah. You didn’t really spend all that much there, but it. And I wound up scoring another Darth Vader statue from a different manager as well. Mm hmm. Tons of artists. And I loved the way they did it, too, because they mix their artists in with their vendors. Right? So that.

00:32:10:10 – 00:32:11:06
Michelle
Just.

00:32:11:08 – 00:32:31:18
Joseph
You didn’t have a dedicated artist ally. So it was a nice mix. You could get in there. You weren’t elbow to elbow with people. Mm hmm. They arranged everything, plenty of room. They arrange everything. Had plenty of sufficiently wide aisles. Mm hmm. Which that’s the one thing I think, especially when we went to New York, that that’s probably what they get on people.

00:32:31:22 – 00:32:33:27
Michelle
Yeah. Our biggest gripe with New York.

00:32:33:27 – 00:32:44:08
Joseph
You had a great mix of of comic book vendors, pop culture vendors. We’re looking at a toffee vendor there.

00:32:44:11 – 00:32:56:03
Michelle
Yeah, there was something for everybody. You know, it was a very nice mix. You had the homemade stuff. That’s always nice. You have a couple of different authors that are there with.

00:32:56:03 – 00:33:17:04
Joseph
Books, a lot of crafty stuff, a lot of crafty. And that’s one of the things that I’ve noticed recently in the convention is you’re getting a lot of the laser engraved laser carved wood objects and stuff. Now, right now they had celebrities here, too. So let’s talk about the celebrities for a minute that they had. And I’m not talking about physic there.

00:33:17:06 – 00:33:22:27
Joseph
Sure. So who was the highlight performer, highlight celebrity that they had?

00:33:23:00 – 00:33:30:02
Michelle
So I think probably their top billed person was Corey Feldman.

00:33:30:04 – 00:33:31:06
Joseph
Yeah.

00:33:31:08 – 00:33:32:11
Michelle
From the Lost Boys.

00:33:32:11 – 00:33:34:09
Joseph
And he was a child, though. He had a line.

00:33:34:09 – 00:33:47:12
Michelle
He had a line. He definitely had had a line. Now, we didn’t do any of the panels. We we were going to do one or two of them, right. But we were just kind of tired and we’re like, All right, you know what? I think we’re we’re done.

00:33:47:12 – 00:33:51:00
Joseph
So that seems to be a theme in this episode, which is old and tired.

00:33:51:00 – 00:33:59:15
Michelle
Now I hear we need a nap so that that would have been interesting to see.

00:33:59:18 – 00:34:02:01
Joseph
How many people’s panel that would have been awesome.

00:34:02:02 – 00:34:06:01
Michelle
I think we had missed that because I think that was Saturday or the MASH one. I think.

00:34:06:01 – 00:34:09:08
Joseph
That was because they had Jamie Farr, Jane read a script there.

00:34:09:10 – 00:34:22:09
Michelle
You know, So that that was kind of interesting because. All right. Corey Feldman Yeah, I could see he’s done, you know, the convention circuit before, but to see Bob Eubanks and Jamie Farr, and that was just kind of like.

00:34:22:15 – 00:34:22:27
Joseph
Yeah.

00:34:22:27 – 00:34:23:17
Michelle
Okay.

00:34:23:17 – 00:34:27:21
Joseph
That’s that’s pretty not the not the typical celebrity should expect.

00:34:27:25 – 00:34:33:09
Michelle
Right? And then a lot of the voice actors that unfortunately I don’t know who any of them are.

00:34:33:09 – 00:34:42:09
Joseph
Right. Well and the one who was supposed to be there that I wanted to see him would have sat through his panel. Sam Witwer wound up pulling out, unfortunately.

00:34:42:09 – 00:34:47:03
Michelle
But I also know him from as not a voice actor. I know him as an actor.

00:34:47:11 – 00:34:49:05
Joseph
Well, yeah, he’s an actor, right?

00:34:49:05 – 00:34:53:17
Michelle
I’m saying. But you know him from the Star Wars game also.

00:34:53:18 – 00:34:54:00
Joseph
Right.

00:34:54:06 – 00:34:56:00
Michelle
So that would have been one.

00:34:56:02 – 00:34:57:29
Joseph
The Clone Wars. He was Darth Maul.

00:34:58:00 – 00:35:06:15
Michelle
Right. So that’s what I’m saying. For people that are very into gaming and anime and things like that.

00:35:06:18 – 00:35:10:29
Joseph
Some of play Star Wars, The Old Republic two, you know.

00:35:11:02 – 00:35:11:23
Michelle
Okay.

00:35:11:23 – 00:35:13:09
Joseph
And he’s on Twitch, too.

00:35:13:11 – 00:35:15:26
Michelle
Okay. Are you guys like, best buds?

00:35:15:26 – 00:35:31:19
Joseph
Did you know if you were worried when he showed up? Right. I got to drop a note. If I know what I look like, I hope everything’s okay. Money. Where are you going to be? In Down ago. When? Go down?

00:35:31:22 – 00:35:50:11
Michelle
But again, it’s. It’s one of our favorite locations to go and see conventions at. But as you can see, you know, some of the some of the space is a little sparse. They they weren’t filled to the max with it. But again, enough of a selection of different things out there.

00:35:50:12 – 00:36:01:09
Joseph
They definitely overbooked the hall, which will probably correct that next time. Right. But as far as I know, they’re coming back again. So yeah.

00:36:01:09 – 00:36:04:15
Michelle
They haven’t updated their website with new dates.

00:36:04:19 – 00:36:05:00
Joseph
Right.

00:36:05:00 – 00:36:10:22
Michelle
So everything is still less last year or this past May.

00:36:10:23 – 00:36:11:16
Joseph
Right.

00:36:11:19 – 00:36:30:12
Michelle
But plenty to see, you know, depending on what what your interests are. Again, we didn’t see any of the panels. So I don’t know how you know was space Limited was you know, how was the sound.

00:36:30:15 – 00:36:38:03
Joseph
But we did go through the panel room because that’s where the rec room. That is true. They were kind of felt that was odd that you would have done it where the restrooms are. Yeah.

00:36:38:07 – 00:36:40:06
Michelle
Yeah. But of course, they had you know, they.

00:36:40:06 – 00:36:41:19
Joseph
Were getting set up for karaoke.

00:36:41:20 – 00:36:46:03
Michelle
Right? They were doing and then I think they were going to be doing like a trivia thing.

00:36:46:04 – 00:36:47:02
Joseph
Right then.

00:36:47:02 – 00:37:03:03
Michelle
A couple of different things. The one that was really interesting, I don’t know if we got footage of it. The one the he was a puppeteer for Henson.

00:37:03:06 – 00:37:06:29
Joseph
Or I think that was one of the last he was probably okay.

00:37:07:00 – 00:37:17:03
Michelle
Yeah, he was in the section. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So this was the start of it with his artwork, but then he had various different Muppets that he has worked on.

00:37:17:03 – 00:37:19:15
Joseph
Not at all creepy, by the way. Yeah. Yeah.

00:37:19:21 – 00:37:22:05
Michelle
He had all his awards and everything.

00:37:22:05 – 00:37:28:15
Joseph
So for the people who are watching and not listening, it’s worthwhile to tune in and actually see some of the details.

00:37:28:15 – 00:37:40:19
Michelle
Yeah. So it was very, you know, it was very well done. We don’t normally go to see celebrities, so that’s never a oh, this is going to.

00:37:40:22 – 00:37:51:00
Joseph
Especially when the lead draws Corey yourself when we’re not standing in line for Corey Feldman. I’m sorry I would have stood in line for for Jamie Farr and Loretta Swit because I loved MASH, right?

00:37:51:00 – 00:37:52:10
Michelle
And they had no way.

00:37:52:14 – 00:37:53:13
Joseph
So you could.

00:37:53:13 – 00:37:59:01
Michelle
Have just gone over and, you know, talked to them and said hi. And they probably would have been ecstatic to I.

00:37:59:01 – 00:38:02:08
Joseph
Was spent by them. We should have probably should have did the celebrities first.

00:38:02:10 – 00:38:07:07
Michelle
We always should do that. We go and find them and work our way back. Yeah, maybe next one.

00:38:07:12 – 00:38:11:20
Joseph
So do we have any conventions coming up in the near future?

00:38:11:22 – 00:38:20:00
Michelle
I think September. I don’t think there’s anything in the summer because the last one would have been San Expo that we decided not to go to.

00:38:20:00 – 00:38:25:15
Joseph
Right. We’re not going to go to the burst in flames hurricane at the Expo Center. The outside one again or.

00:38:25:18 – 00:38:36:20
Michelle
Well no, they’re not doing that they only did they’ll be doing Monster mania will be back at Oaks in November. Okay so we’ll be doing that one again.

00:38:36:27 – 00:38:42:18
Joseph
That was a memorable one. The outside one. If Cobra didn’t kill you, we will.

00:38:42:21 – 00:38:44:00
Michelle
Last weekend in May.

00:38:44:00 – 00:38:52:16
Joseph
I hope so. I almost passed out over on the grass, sitting under this tiny little umbrella trying not to die.

00:38:52:23 – 00:38:55:20
Michelle
At that one. They were actually selling umbrellas.

00:38:55:20 – 00:38:58:15
Joseph
At least where we had to buy a fence because they weren’t quite.

00:38:58:15 – 00:39:00:17
Michelle
Right. That is true. That is true.

00:39:00:20 – 00:39:25:09
Joseph
So anyway, that was contractual is silly. They don’t have anything new. And we’re looking at the website now, actually. Yeah, they haven’t done anything yet. We’re not at any new information there. So hopefully they come back and you know, if they do, I’m sure we’ll be gone. Sure. But we’re going to take another break. We’re going to come back and we’re going to cry over a couple of shows that have said farewell to us.

00:39:25:09 – 00:39:33:18
Joseph
We’ll be right back.

00:39:33:20 – 00:40:10:26
Michelle
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00:40:10:28 – 00:40:56:05
Michelle
Check out our video episodes on YouTube.com backslash insights into things. Catch audio versions on podcast Insights into teens, XCOM or on the Web at insights into things. XCOM. Welcome back, everyone. So for our next segment, we’re going to be talking about the different couple of our favorite shows that have wrapped and had their series Funny finales in the last past months, last few months or since we’ve actually done a podcast before.

00:40:56:07 – 00:41:26:03
Michelle
So the first would be the long running original Walking Dead, and if you didn’t ever hear about it, you’re obviously looking after Rock because it’s based on the comic book series written by Robert Kirkman. It’s the gritty drama that portrays life in the months and years that follow a zombie apocalypse. You have a group of survivors that travel in search for safety and security and are constantly on the move and in search of a secure home.

00:41:26:10 – 00:42:02:04
Michelle
But the pressure each day to stay alive sends them, you know, many of the group into the deepest depths of human cruelty. And they soon discover that the overwhelming fear of the survivors can be more deadly than the zombies walking among them. Since the original came out there, have been now six spinoffs from this show. The original obviously was the one that lasted the longest with 11 seasons and kind of rewrote the way zombie shows were done and looked at really when you kind of think about it.

00:42:02:05 – 00:42:29:24
Michelle
The popularity really boomed once Walking Dead came around, but they finally wrapped up their season and we kind of thought, Oh, this is the end. And then all of a sudden now you have these other spinoffs where some of the other spinoffs that they’ve had were totally different, characters were different places. You had the one where it’s out in California.

00:42:29:26 – 00:42:41:10
Michelle
One that was also in the South, where there were a couple of little tie ins, but not. But now after Walking Dead, they have the the New York version that just.

00:42:41:17 – 00:42:42:12
Joseph
Now.

00:42:42:15 – 00:43:03:03
Michelle
Dead City, which is with Negan and Maggie. But you have the mission show allegedly. That one’s also in the works. And then, of course, you have the one that I can’t think.

00:43:03:06 – 00:43:04:01
Joseph
Fear?

00:43:04:04 – 00:43:20:18
Michelle
No. With What’s his name? Daryl. The Daryl show. That was supposed to be the Daryl and Carol Show. But Carol backed out. So you, you know, so where you kind of thought things were just ending? No, We’re giving you three other shows with characters from your beloved.

00:43:20:18 – 00:43:23:06
Joseph
Daryl and his sister Carol, and their other brother, Daryl.

00:43:23:12 – 00:43:29:15
Michelle
Right. Right. So what did you think of the finale or the final season?

00:43:29:17 – 00:43:57:13
Joseph
It was kind of well, the final was just a mess. They were all over the place. And it was largely because of COVID. You know, they didn’t know how to deal with with shutting down because as a zombie show where you’re getting eaten by other people doesn’t really work in a pandemic. True, True. They were very creative in how they went about doing some of the things because you had the little shorts that came out for it that pushed it around.

00:43:57:16 – 00:44:07:25
Joseph
You had season 11 a and then you had season 11 B and then you had the interludes that were the Tales of the Walking Dead in between them.

00:44:07:28 – 00:44:08:21
Michelle
Right, Right.

00:44:08:24 – 00:44:23:00
Joseph
You had the ridiculously long episodes thing. You had a four part series, and then they did the second half. It was so confusing as to where you were with things that it was really like three seasons in one form for season 11.

00:44:23:01 – 00:44:56:02
Michelle
Right, Because I think they kind of felt like they had gotten gypped out of previous seasons because of COVID coming in and shutting things down that they felt they had more story to tell. But yet I only read the comics up to a certain point. You did kind of read the anthologies or the two to kind of know where things were going and the way the story ended on the show and where it ended in the comics was completely different.

00:44:56:03 – 00:44:57:14
Michelle
There were characters you said.

00:44:57:14 – 00:45:11:11
Joseph
That well, and that was the crown. So by the time you got to this point in the comics, the show was completely off the rails. Mm hmm. The main character. Well, first of all, like Daryl never even appears. Right. So the characters.

00:45:11:11 – 00:45:11:23
Michelle
That.

00:45:11:23 – 00:45:31:28
Joseph
Part, right. The characters that winding up at the end of the the series are not the characters that are in the comic books. Mm hmm. And the key characters that show off the comic books are all dead or gone or missing or walkabout or whatever. You know, they’re just not there. Right. So what was interesting was seeing the parallel.

00:45:32:01 – 00:45:51:03
Joseph
So, like, for instance, Michonne in the comics was turns out to be a lawyer and she’s a judge in this new community. Mm hmm. Well, they had to kind of have somebody there to drive part of that story. Right. So they pick a different one. So they pick who they picked for that.

00:45:51:05 – 00:45:54:27
Michelle
No chemo, None. Nikita I can’t think of what her.

00:45:54:27 – 00:45:57:27
Joseph
Kruschev.

00:45:57:29 – 00:46:01:06
Michelle
You know, horrible what names.

00:46:01:08 – 00:46:30:21
Joseph
You. Yeah, that one. Yeah. Yeah. So you’re right there. So. Right. So. And one of the key things that happens in the comics is the some in of the governor, I guess, or whatever hurt her. Right. He winds up killing. No spoilers here. The comics been out a while killing what’s his face Cowboy hat. Big gun, Sheriff. What’s his name?

00:46:30:22 – 00:46:31:12
Joseph
Help me out.

00:46:31:13 – 00:46:33:09
Michelle
Yeah. Michelle and husband.

00:46:33:10 – 00:47:02:22
Joseph
Yes, Rick. Rick. Right. So he winds up killing Rick, and that sends that whole story down. So they wind up doing something completely different here. Okay. Like, not even close to it. Right. So it was an interesting take on it. But the comics didn’t end, which is the weird thing. So you get the second the penultimate episode of the comics and everything’s, you know, all hell is breaking loose and it doesn’t end.

00:47:02:28 – 00:47:21:24
Joseph
And then the final episode is a time, huh? Right. That tries to sort of tell you where things are. 20 years in the future or whatever. Right. Right. And it was such a disappointing end of the series. This one here, at least the TV series kind of tied up all the loose ends. Mm hmm. By the end. Right, Right.

00:47:21:27 – 00:47:51:05
Joseph
But you still have that potential for a 20 year time up the line there, the way you might pick things back up again. Right. So the contrast between the two was very different. They tried to stick to some of the story, but you just couldn’t because of all the changes that happened up until this point. Right. I wasn’t it wasn’t a mash ending, you know, And every time we think of, like the series finale, I compare every series finale to MASH, right?

00:47:51:05 – 00:48:13:06
Joseph
Because that was like the ultimate ending to the ultimate show. Mm hmm. And it wasn’t that. But it wasn’t terrible. I don’t know. I don’t I don’t have any other words to really describe. It was kind of just. Oh, okay. That’s how it ended. Let’s move on to the next show now, because you knew it wasn’t.

00:48:13:06 – 00:48:14:08
Michelle
Over and.

00:48:14:08 – 00:48:15:07
Joseph
That was the worst kind.

00:48:15:07 – 00:48:24:28
Michelle
Of. What I was thinking is that we knew we were in completely saying goodbye to most of these characters because they’ve already said, Oh, by the way, we have these three shows in.

00:48:25:02 – 00:48:42:03
Joseph
Right. There were no tear jerking goodbyes there was no we’ll you know, we’ll never see you again. I think it was like, Oh, okay, guys, I’ll see you on the set next week. Right. So it was like it was such an artificial end to the whole thing. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And. And let’s be honest, the 11th season, they.

00:48:42:03 – 00:48:44:12
Joseph
They dragged it out a little too far.

00:48:44:12 – 00:48:47:22
Michelle
And that’s the thing is there were some seasons that didn’t have to.

00:48:47:23 – 00:48:52:04
Joseph
Like season two. The Terminus season was terrible.

00:48:52:11 – 00:49:00:18
Michelle
Or that didn’t have to be so long. Yeah, you know, and again, this is before COVID even happened where there were seasons that were just kind of like.

00:49:00:23 – 00:49:14:12
Joseph
One whole season where they were wandering in there. What the only good thing that came out of that season was look at the flowers just look at the flowers. Mm hmm. Now you get that reference. I commend you for sticking with this show. And that’s.

00:49:14:12 – 00:49:20:12
Michelle
The thing is there were people who had started watching it and got to a certain point and they were just like, You know.

00:49:20:12 – 00:49:39:13
Joseph
What? And I told them, you know, when I binged, watch the first seven seasons. Right. Had I watched season two, week to week, I would have walked away from that bored out of my mind. The only thing that kept me with the show was that I had binged the entire season. I was able to get it done in a couple of days.

00:49:39:19 – 00:49:52:05
Joseph
Right. So but anyway, that ended kind of in preparation for the new ones to come out, which right density as we saw episode first two episodes, right.

00:49:52:07 – 00:49:53:06
Michelle
We only watched the first.

00:49:53:06 – 00:49:54:06
Joseph
One, just the first one.

00:49:54:06 – 00:49:56:14
Michelle
But there have been two. We have watched the next.

00:49:56:15 – 00:50:01:07
Joseph
What’s your what’s your opinion of the first episode?

00:50:01:09 – 00:50:25:20
Michelle
I’m interested to see where it goes, but it’s kind of there. Oh, look, there’s more bad people. Oh, okay. Well, there’s more bad people and they’re really, really bad. And they’re stuck on an island in New York. Ooh, Let’s go. Hmm And then you have, like, you even brought up the whole Marshalls and things that are, you know, truth.

00:50:25:20 – 00:50:26:22
Joseph
Doesn’t make sense.

00:50:26:23 – 00:50:34:00
Michelle
Law and order. And it’s like, well, what organization is there? How did that organization come to be?

00:50:34:02 – 00:50:59:06
Joseph
And how do you invest somebody in with authority in a society where you can kill people at will? Like, there’s no there’s not. There’s no laws. The only thing that that makes a law enforced by an officer valid is people who follow the law. Right. And if you don’t follow the law, you face the penalties. Well, if nobody follows along, you’re just killing people.

00:50:59:07 – 00:51:08:25
Joseph
Right. Like, clearly they are. I mean. Right. You literally have communities that are miles away from each other going to war with each other. The premise of a marshal doesn’t make any sense right now.

00:51:08:25 – 00:51:24:20
Michelle
I did read some brief thing because I didn’t want to know spoilers, but I there was somebody that had watched the whole season and basically said, you have to give it a couple of episodes to finally get going.

00:51:24:21 – 00:51:26:28
Joseph
Oh, it’s the Disney philosophy, you mean?

00:51:27:00 – 00:51:28:05
Michelle
Yeah, pretty much.

00:51:28:05 – 00:51:32:00
Joseph
You need to get four episodes into the seven episode series before it gets interesting.

00:51:32:01 – 00:51:35:28
Michelle
Right. So. So we’ll say, well, we’ll probably watch it just to.

00:51:36:00 – 00:51:53:19
Joseph
What I think what annoyed me was there was always this curiosity of what could possibly bring Negan and Maggie together to go on this adventure in New York City, Right? Because we’re told it months ago. What was and the fact that we were so spot on for it was just so disappointing.

00:51:53:21 – 00:52:06:26
Michelle
Right. But still, we don’t know why Negan was where he is. They they still haven’t really, you know, like he kind of hinted, but nothing else. Like no more information about what happened.

00:52:06:26 – 00:52:31:23
Joseph
But that’s not what. But you know I interest me. What? How he got there. Mm hmm. You know, he got there probably because he got kicked out of 12 other communities because of who he is. Yeah, well, I would expect nothing less. But, you know, the fact that you have Maggie, and the only reason that Maggie went to find Negan was because the guy who runs this new gang in New York happened to be one of his followers.

00:52:31:24 – 00:52:53:21
Joseph
Right. That is such a weak, weak driver. Mm hmm. Motivational driver for putting aside the fact that this man bashed your husband’s brains out in front of you. Right. It just. It makes no sense from a logical standpoint. You could have literally taken anybody else and been just as effective. Mm hmm. So my hopes aren’t particularly high for this one.

00:52:53:21 – 00:52:58:02
Joseph
But, you know, we’ll see. We’ll see what’s the next big disappointment?

00:52:58:05 – 00:53:00:23
Michelle
Well, no, it wasn’t a disappointment that it’s over.

00:53:00:23 – 00:53:00:27
Joseph
I.

00:53:01:03 – 00:53:29:19
Michelle
Oh, okay. Would be Star Trek. Picard That happened to be a favorite of ours. It aired for three seasons and wrapped up. So the series actually begins in 2399, which is 20 years after Jean-Luc Picard’s appearance in Star Trek Nemesis and finds that the is deeply affected by the death of dat of data in that film, as well as the destruction of the planet Romulus.

00:53:29:19 – 00:54:07:14
Michelle
In the film Star Trek, he is retired from Starfleet and he’s living on his family’s vineyard. Picard is drawn into a new adventure when he is. Let me move my mouse. Visited by a synthetic daughter of data. One of the several new synthetic beings that seem to be coming out now in that time period. So Picard fights for their right to exist and gives his life to save them after his consciousness is transferred into a synthetic body for the second season.

00:54:07:17 – 00:54:08:22
Joseph
Conveniently, we.

00:54:08:22 – 00:54:33:14
Michelle
Move to 2401, and now Picard and his companions are living new lives when an old adversary. Q traps them in an alternate reality and they must travel back to time to the 21st century to save the future of the galaxy. And then finally, the third season, Picard learns that he has a son who is being hunted by a mysterious enemy.

00:54:33:17 – 00:54:42:01
Michelle
And then he reunites with the former crew of USS Enterprise to protect his son and face the new invasion of the Borg.

00:54:42:03 – 00:54:42:29
Joseph
Yep.

00:54:43:01 – 00:54:47:07
Michelle
Yep. That’s what happened. That’s pretty much pretty much what happened.

00:54:47:10 – 00:55:10:15
Joseph
No spoilers or anything now. But he has another son. It’s not another. It’s not a clone from Nemesis. The Romulans made. And he. He helped the since to define the fact that they could exist. Kind of like he did with data when the only thing with the series was they kind of recycled a lot of themes that they had previously.

00:55:10:15 – 00:55:18:22
Joseph
Right. Right. There wasn’t fresh themes there, but the way that they did it, it was it was a throw to the fans. Mm hmm.

00:55:18:25 – 00:55:38:07
Michelle
Well, definitely Season three was definitely a throwback and a love letter to to the fans because they knew it was ending. They knew they weren’t doing a fourth season, so they knew they kind of had to tie up all of the loose ends. So you had where, you know, season two and season one, you had a couple of cameos by a couple of different things.

00:55:38:10 – 00:55:56:22
Michelle
By season three, it was basically everybody in all these different cameos and people that you weren’t even expecting to show up that, you know, we would watch and be like, Oh my God, is that. And it was. And, you know, so that was that was kind of neat to have that happen. And then it.

00:55:56:22 – 00:56:13:00
Joseph
Was the only problem is there was there was some of the situations in which these people showed up were completely unbelievable. It’s like like these people don’t have a life. Like they all just sit around waiting for Picard to call and come do okay.

00:56:13:03 – 00:56:13:21
Michelle
Yeah, they’re all.

00:56:13:21 – 00:56:33:27
Joseph
Retired for the most part. I love the fact. I love the fact that they had Geordi running the ship museum. Mm hmm. And he just conveniently put together the enterprise that was destroyed in Star Trek generations. Just conveniently happened to have that as back pocket just when they needed it.

00:56:33:27 – 00:56:36:29
Michelle
You never know when you’re going to need a ship.

00:56:37:01 – 00:56:38:15
Joseph
Yeah, it is.

00:56:38:21 – 00:56:40:28
Michelle
Suspend reality.

00:56:41:00 – 00:56:59:20
Joseph
I felt like so much of this third season was forced down my throat. I ate it up. You sure did. Because I’m a Star Trek fan. Yeah. I just felt force fed so much of this and was just told to believe it. Yeah, that was. That was really my take on it.

00:56:59:23 – 00:57:02:17
Michelle
But who is your favorite character in the whole season?

00:57:02:20 – 00:57:04:10
Joseph
My favorite character.

00:57:04:13 – 00:57:06:05
Michelle
In the third season.

00:57:06:07 – 00:57:10:06
Joseph
I don’t know who is my favorite character.

00:57:10:08 – 00:57:12:18
Michelle
Who wasn’t from the original?

00:57:12:20 – 00:57:18:24
Joseph
Who wasn’t from originally. Oh, no. I don’t really have a favorite.

00:57:18:29 – 00:57:20:23
Michelle
Wasn’t the captain?

00:57:20:25 – 00:57:51:12
Joseph
Oh, yes. The captain of the of the. What was the ship? Oh, yeah, that’s what it was. Yeah. We’re not going to mention that. Yeah, but the captain of the other ship was my favorite. Just because he was so dry and sarcastic and he was a prick, and he admits that he’s a prick. Mm hmm. Which, you know, just kind of indigent, unfortunately.

00:57:51:12 – 00:58:01:02
Joseph
You know, he doesn’t make it out of. Everything is as squeaky clean as everyone else does. But, yeah, he was. He was definitely.

00:58:01:05 – 00:58:04:26
Michelle
He definitely added the two to the highlight of your.

00:58:04:28 – 00:58:30:28
Joseph
Watching. Yeah, that was pretty good. Yeah. So but anyway, Picard seasons one through three are now available on Paramount+. Mm hmm. We’re going to take a quick break. Come back. We’re running a little bit late here for the good, the bad and the ugly segment. We’ll be right back. I love the music cued up, unfortunately, but we’ll be right back.

00:58:31:00 – 00:58:57:26
Joseph
So the good. We mentioned it earlier during our trip to Niagara. Right after Niagara Falls. Mm hmm. The one gem that we found in what was really a sad rundown resort town that that is on it. Bad luck really was a restaurant that we found on the other side of town from Resort. We stayed in called the Bakery.

00:58:57:27 – 00:59:20:24
Joseph
Yes. The bakery itself. And I did a review. You can find my review up on Google. Mm hmm. If you look it up on Google Maps, we have pictures in everything. The bakery was the most unique eatery experience that I think we’ve had in a long time. It was genuine, it was authentic. You walked in there and you felt like you were in your mom’s house from the 1950s and sixties.

00:59:20:25 – 00:59:22:04
Michelle
Yes.

00:59:22:06 – 00:59:44:11
Joseph
It was decorated beautifully. And the staff was attentive. When when you had gotten off at one point in time to take some pictures because of how unique the place was, the chef came over right. And said, oh, well, if you’re interested in learning more about it. And he took you on a tour of the function in the emergency room, please.

00:59:44:12 – 01:00:09:00
Michelle
What was interesting, so it was originally a bakery and the bakers house were next to each other. So that’s what became this building. And He took me, you know, to the hallway where the restrooms were, and you could see through the architecture, Oh, this is where the house was. This is where the bakery was. And they kind of built the two buildings together.

01:00:09:00 – 01:00:31:23
Michelle
And and you could see where the front porch had been, where they had built an enclosure. And then, you know, the one area had been a dance hall had been a speakeasy. At one point in time, the there was a back entrance that you would come in to, to go in to dance and and drink and stuff. So it just got all these historic things from it.

01:00:31:24 – 01:00:43:19
Michelle
There was even a picture of the original house and a picture of the original family was there too. So if you didn’t know that it was there, you know, you might not have even known the history of it.

01:00:43:21 – 01:01:03:04
Joseph
So it was it was such a genuine experience and it was so enjoyable. Chef Joseph was so attentive. You had gone off to the restroom at one point in time and he was talking to Manny and I, and he was saying, you know, I don’t live in town here. I commute in from Buffalo. And he was giving us, you know, suggestions.

01:01:03:04 – 01:01:03:27
Michelle
Of other things.

01:01:03:27 – 01:01:29:06
Joseph
But yeah, it was, it was, it was just so. Mm. It really made kind of a lukewarm trip really special to do that. And it was before we went to the strong. Right. Yeah. So it was, that was the other highlight of the trip itself was the bakery in Niagara Falls. Yeah. Now for the Ugly. So we had talked about this a lot.

01:01:29:08 – 01:01:57:06
Joseph
We had talked about the anticipation of it coming. We had talked about the accommodations and the experience and we talked about the price and we said, I’ll be shot and I have to go back and probably get my quote. I’ll be shocked if this last 18 months. And of course, we’re talking about Disney’s Galactic Starcruiser, which is set for its final voyage in September, hasn’t been open two, four years now.

01:01:57:09 – 01:01:58:27
Michelle
Yeah, it’s been 18 months, I believe.

01:01:58:27 – 01:02:26:03
Joseph
18 months. And they’re closing. Mm hmm. Because they can’t convince stupid people enough, stupid people to pay the kind of money that they want you to pay. And really, it was ridiculous that they were charging the equivalent of a seven day cruise for two nights. Right. Just to basically stay in a prison cell. Right. And that’s what people have stayed there, described to that.

01:02:26:04 – 01:02:41:20
Joseph
Mm hmm. No windows. You’re sleeping in bunk beds like prison style bunk beds? Mm hmm. Your day is regimented. You have to do certain things because of the way that they have their interaction. Right. And it people just didn’t find it enjoyable.

01:02:41:23 – 01:03:19:28
Michelle
Right. And if you weren’t the type of person that enjoyed roleplaying or larping or anything, too, that this wasn’t for you because you’re not going to get anything out of it. Now, people that were into that and liked dressing up and liked being interactive, they enjoyed the trip because it was immersive that way. But if you weren’t that type of person, you were probably bored out of your mind because there wasn’t anything else to do, or you kind of felt weird hanging around other people that were doing these adventures and things like that.

01:03:19:28 – 01:03:20:17
Michelle
So.

01:03:20:24 – 01:03:43:24
Joseph
So I just want to take a moment to tell Disney I told you so. I took great pleasure in hearing about this because there was no as much as I would have loved doing to go and experience it, there was no way in hell that I was going to give Disney that kind of money. Mm hmm. For any kind of experience, I don’t care.

01:03:43:26 – 01:03:47:13
Joseph
I’m not giving Disney that much money for something like that for two days.

01:03:47:14 – 01:03:55:26
Michelle
Right now, it was a week vacation with, you know, on an actual cruise ship. Yes. I won’t give you that kind of money.

01:03:55:27 – 01:03:56:07
Joseph
Right.

01:03:56:14 – 01:04:18:19
Michelle
For me to actually go someplace and see something and and do. But yeah, that that was the thing. We were very excited when they were first announcing it. And we said, okay, let’s let’s see what it comes out to be, how much it’s going to be, how much, you know, okay, where’s our price point? You know, what we’re willing to spend.

01:04:18:21 – 01:04:21:09
Michelle
And then when the prices came out, it was just.

01:04:21:13 – 01:04:40:18
Joseph
And then Disney slapped millions of people in the face. Mm hmm. With the fictitious price that they gave you. Mm hmm. And it was just embarrassing, right? I was embarrassed for Disney that they were asking people for that kind of money. Yeah. Second ugly thing. And this is one that’s near. And this is.

01:04:40:18 – 01:04:43:18
Michelle
Really the bad. This is probably more than ugly.

01:04:43:21 – 01:05:09:18
Joseph
Right? This is. This is the bad. Sorry, I went out. It were. Yeah, it’s okay. It’s okay. You can fix it. Yeah, I’ll know it. I’ll fix it because I keep saying that. Anyway, we were robbed. Somebody stole money from us. And the people that stole money from us were the Phillips and the Kimmel Center because we had bought tickets for a Star Wars concert event, and it was canceled at one point in time.

01:05:09:18 – 01:05:12:01
Michelle
It was supposed to be last summer.

01:05:12:02 – 01:05:12:21
Joseph
Right.

01:05:12:24 – 01:05:24:15
Michelle
And then due to whatever reasons they had to postpone it until June of this year. So they said, hold on to your tickets.

01:05:24:18 – 01:05:26:10
Joseph
Didn’t offer any refunds.

01:05:26:11 – 01:05:27:26
Michelle
Right. You could get.

01:05:27:28 – 01:05:28:17
Joseph
Where do you.

01:05:28:17 – 01:05:39:25
Michelle
Transfer your ticket to something else? But just hold onto your tickets. We’re going to everything will be fine. We’ll see you June 2023.

01:05:39:26 – 01:05:42:26
Joseph
Right. And then what happened?

01:05:42:28 – 01:05:54:03
Michelle
Oh, it’s postponed again, but we don’t know when, now or where it’ll actually even be.

01:05:54:05 – 01:06:18:01
Joseph
They were very communicative. The Philly police were in telling us about this legal battle that they had with the Kimmel Center. Mm hmm. And it was a terrible thing. And they kicked them out and they’re not giving them any concert hall time and blah, blah, blah. And I didn’t give a damn about any of that. All I know is I paid money for a concert that they didn’t put on, and I don’t care whose fault it is.

01:06:18:04 – 01:06:25:00
Joseph
Mm hmm. I The concert was scheduled for last week. Mm hmm. I want my concert or I want my money.

01:06:25:06 – 01:06:25:27
Michelle
Right?

01:06:26:00 – 01:06:43:00
Joseph
I don’t want to wait. I don’t want here’s postponed. I don’t want to hear this guy did this. I don’t want to hear that You’re crying. Poor mouth. You took my money. You didn’t give me a product. You stole my money. Mm hmm. And it was the Philly Pops, and it was the Kimmel Center that stole my money.

01:06:43:02 – 01:07:08:04
Joseph
And at this point in time, I’m waiting for the class action lawsuit because I know what’s going to come out, and I’ll get $3 back from it, and lawyers will get the rest of the money. Mm hmm. But at least based on principle, someone’s going to pay something. Mm hmm. And neither the Philly Pops, which we’ve gone to a number of their shows already, nor the Kimmel Center, will ever get another dime from me because they stole my money.

01:07:08:06 – 01:07:12:20
Joseph
That’s. That’s my public service announcement for today.

01:07:12:22 – 01:07:13:25
Michelle
Do you feel better now?

01:07:13:27 – 01:07:18:10
Joseph
A little bit. A little bit. It’s a little. A little hot in here now. So I’m getting a little hot under the collar.

01:07:18:11 – 01:07:19:01
Michelle
I understand.

01:07:19:06 – 01:07:40:21
Joseph
So anyway, that was the afterthoughts I had. Be careful who you give your money to. Don’t trust anybody, etcetera, etcetera. Be paranoid like me. Sure. And better be better to be better. That’s the important part. I don’t. Forgive me. I don’t forget either. So I guess it doesn’t matter. Anyway, that’s. That was all we had for the show today.

01:07:40:21 – 01:08:09:01
Joseph
Before we go, I do want to once again invite folks from our listening and viewing audience. If you don’t already do so, please subscribe to our podcast. You can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify. You’re looking at me as though I have to say something. No. Okay, we’re on Google Stitcher. I would also ask you to take a few moments, give us a review, you know, give us a thumbs up or a star or whatever your podcast of choice uses for a rating system itself.

01:08:09:03 – 01:08:12:06
Joseph
High five, high fives work to this pump.

01:08:12:06 – 01:08:12:24
Michelle
I don’t I don’t know.

01:08:12:24 – 01:08:26:07
Joseph
How that works. I don’t know of any of them that do fist bumps, but it can be kind of awkward. Also, reach out to us. Give us your feedback. Tell us how we’re doing. You can email us at comments and insights into things dot com.

01:08:26:11 – 01:08:30:00
Michelle
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01:08:30:02 – 01:08:35:10
Joseph
We do stream five days a week on Twitch, Twitch TV slash insights into things.

01:08:35:12 – 01:08:40:15
Michelle
You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com, backslash insights into Things podcast.

01:08:40:21 – 01:08:43:17
Joseph
On Instagram. We’re at insights into things.

01:08:43:24 – 01:08:53:06
Michelle
And you can go to our main website that has links to everything that we mentioned, which is WWE Insights into things dot com.

01:08:53:08 – 01:08:54:19
Joseph
That’s it. Number one in the books.

01:08:54:20 – 01:08:55:24
Michelle
Have a good week, everyone.

01:08:55:26 – 01:08:56:21
Joseph
Bye bye.