Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 141 “Walkouts and Mergers”

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This week we’ll take a look at how Disney CEO handled, or rather mishandled Florida’s controversial “Don’t Say Gay” bill

Then we’ll dig into the next major consolidation move in the Entertainment industry with Amazon’s acquisition of MGM.

We’ve also got a great Insightful Pick for you this week and some convention news.

Show Notes

[INTRO THEME]

[INTRODUCTIONS] (2-3 minutes)
Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 141 “Walkouts and Mergers”
My creative and inspiring co-host Michelle Whalen

[SHOW SUMMARY] (2-3 minutes)
This week we’ll take a look at how Disney CEO handled, or rather mishandled Florida’s controversial “Don’t Say Gay” bill
Then we’ll dig into the next major consolidation move in the Entertainment industry with Amazon’s acquisition of MGM.
We’ve also got a great Insightful Pick for you this week and some convention news.

[Show Plugs] (2-3 minutes)
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[TRANSITION]

[SEGMENT 1: Disney Detective] (8-12 minutes)

Disney employees walking out across the U.S.
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/disney-employees-us-are-walking-today-rcna20893
https://nbcnews.to/3utmrlo
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/disney-employees-plan-walkout-demand-action-dont-gay/story?id=83585126
https://abcn.ws/3iwzVY3

They’re mad as hell and they’re not going to take it anymore…
At least that’s the message that Walt Disney Co. Cast Members are trying to send to their corporate overlords
Cast Members of the entertainment giant are staging walkouts across the country in protest of CEO Bob Chapek’s response to the recent Florida legislation that’s been dubbed the “Don’t Say Gay” bill

LGBTQIA+ workers and allies alike planned a general walkout at locations in Florida, California and elsewhere
CM’s are up in arms at Chapek’s tepid response to HB 1557
A bill that would prohibit instruction about “sexual orientation or gender identity” in kindergarten through the third grade in florida
Unlike his predecessor Bob Iger, the lesser of the two Bobs thought he could play the politics of the state closer to the vest
Chapek sent a company wide memo on March 7th with his thoughts
He believed the corporation could make the “biggest impact” by “creating a more inclusive world through the inspiring content we produce”
Basically saying “This isn’t important enough to get the company involved in”
The company’s official position on the bill was particularly galling to tens of thousands of Disney employees in the state of Florida

Chapek did issue a late and luke warm apology saying
“It is clear that this is not just an issue about a bill in Florida, but instead yet another challenge to basic human rights. You needed me to be a stronger ally in the fight for equal rights and I let you down. I am sorry”
Even his apology seemed to be a bit of a tongue in cheek response as if “yet another challenge to basic human rights” is just a bit of an inconvenience and not something worth standing up for.
While he admits “you needed me to be a stronger ally” and “I let you down”, he doesn’t really pledge to do anything to set that straight
He did announce that the company would pause all donations to elected officials in Florida, what that’s supposed to accomplish is puzzling
Maybe it just makes Disney look less guilty of supporting elected officials content to trample human rights
Maybe it helps “Bob the Lesser” sleep at night
It certainly doesn’t do anything for those affected by the legislation

In a unified statement the Cast Members said
“The recent statements and lack of action by The Walt Disney Co. leadership regarding the ‘Don’t Say Gay or Trans’ bill have utterly failed to match the magnitude of the threat to LGBTQIA+ safety represented by this legislation
“We have been forced into an impossible and unsustainable position. We must now take action to convince The Walt Disney Co. to protect Cast Members and their families in the face of such open and unapologetic bigotry.”

Chapek, who obviously doesn’t know when to cut his losses and move on, poured more gas on the fire with a virtual town hall
The Wall Street Journal reports that Chapek told CM’s that he and other top executives were “determined to use this moment as a catalyst for more meaningful and lasting change”
As a contender for the “Too little, too late” award of 2002, Chapek went on to say that he and other senior leaders would go on a global listening tour of Cast Members.
Chapek’s tactless handling of the situation has cause a public relations crisis for himself and the company
Which should come as no surprise given so many other Chapek era decisions that have been steadily alienating both cast members and customers from the home of Mickey Mouse

Of course as seems to often be the case Chapek is playing second fiddle to Bob the Greater, his predecessor Bob Iger
Iger came in in strong opposition to the Parental Rights in Education bill on February 24th, weeks before Chapek felt compelled to apologize for his gaff
During his term helming the media empire Iger was often center stage in such controversies supporting the company’s cast members and families
Chapek’s lack of empathy, tactless delivery and complete absence of leadership is in stark contrast to the more refined, almost enlightened example that Iger offered and it reflects on the company as a whole

So what do the cast members hope to accomplish with a walkout
In an emailed response to a list of questions they indicated their main goal was to stop the corporation from donating to elected officials who sponsor “weaponized and hateful legislation”
It’s hard to argue with that
They also expect the company to take a stand against similar legislation in Georgia, a key production hub for the company’s films and television shows
In a statement the group said:
“We believe The Walt Disney Co.’s recent statements about their commitment to our community means that any time legislation like this comes up again, they will take a more visible stand, and we plan to hold them accountable for that”

Ultimately it all comes down to politics
Republican legislators who advocated for the bill content that parents – not teachers – should be the people talking to children about sexuality and gender issues
Maybe in a perfect world that works
Sadly we don’t live in a perfect world
Many who support this bill are grossly unqualified to speak in an educated manner about the topic, if they speak to their children about such subjects at all
Democrats argue that the bill demonizes LGBTQIA+ people and effective bars students from speaking freely about sexual orientation and gender identity
In essence the bill is a violation of free speech at its core
It uses public funds to push a biased conservative political agenda on students
The measure has passed both houses of the Legislature and now heads to the Republican Governor Ron DeSantis
DeSantis, who’s made it very clear he’s neither a fan nor an advocate for anyone who doesn’t conform to his narrow conservative view of the world has already expressed support for the bill

[AD 1]

[SEGMENT 2: Entertainment News] (8-12 minutes)

What the Amazon-MGM deal means for the Entertainment Industry
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/17/1087268067/amazon-mgm-deal
https://n.pr/3wxWEeD
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/amazon-mgm-merger-close-1235207852/
https://bit.ly/3JFJcca
https://www.wired.com/story/mgm-amazon-acquisition/
https://bit.ly/3qzfgHg

The man with the golden wallet now owns the man with the golden gun…and much more
Amazon has agreed to purchase the film and television studio MGM for nearly $8.5 billion
The merger was first announced last May & just recently became official
This is the second largest acquisition for Amazon after Whole Foods
It is also the latest in a string of mega mergers within the entertainment industry including AT&T’s merger of WarnerMedia with Discovery last year

Included in the merger are iconic brands including
The James Bond franchise
Rocky
The Silence of the Lambs
And Legally Blonde just to name a few

The merger has been cleared by the European Commission
Having concluded their investigation into the merger the European Commission determine the merger “would not significantly reduce competition in the markets”
The U.S. government hasn’t given it’s blessing on the union yet but the two companies signed on the dotted line to make it official none-the-less

Will we see our Amazon Prime Video selection options start to open up?
It’s unclear when or if Prime subscribers will get the full MGM catalog
An impressive library that contains more than 4,000 films and over 17,000 TV episodes

Some industry experts think this and other mergers might signal a dark time for streaming ahead
Mergers like this mean less choice for consumers
Anytime there’s less choice, and therefore less competition it means higher prices
The “streaming wars” have sparked a new era of consolidation, which is already underway
This still have a ways to go before they get overly restrictive, but they’re already moving in that direction

Blame Disney, everyone else does
Amazon, Netflix, and just about everyone else are trying to bolster their reserves of intellectual property in order to compete with Disney and their new and highly successful streaming service Disney+
Disney threw down the gauntlet in 2009 when they acquired Marvel Entertainment
The neglected property wasn’t all that impressive at the time, but we see what Disney has done with it since then
Disney raised the stakes in 2012 when they bought Lucasfilm
Between their own original work, their Pixar properties, Marvel and Lucasfilm Disney essentially locked up 90% of the target audiences childhood under one roof
Of course the spent year squandering the opportunities they had by housing their works on other streaming networks until they launched their own streaming service in 2019
Since then everyone has been trying to be Disney in the streaming world

What’s the end result for consumers?
Static catalogs are well and good if you like rewatching TV shows and movies, but the real money is in new content right?
Well…maybe
It’s likely that Amazon will be milking their newly acquired properties like Rocky and James Bond for sure
You may even get spinoffs based on your favorite characters
But that also means you’ll likely have fewer unique stories emerging from these studios
You’re likely to get retreads of what you’ve already seen.

[AD 2]

[SEGMENT 3: Insightful Picks of the Week] (8-12 minutes)

Michelle
Severance
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11280740/
https://imdb.to/3Nn4sFR
Mark leads a team of office workers whose memories have been surgically divided between their work and personal lives. When a mysterious colleague appears outside of work, it begins a journey to discover the truth about their jobs.
“Severance” takes as its starting point a unique solution to the work-life balance crisis, one offered by a veteran U.S. corporation called Lumon Industries. “What don’t they make?” asks one awestruck employee about this opaque organization.
Lumon has perfected a process that ensures employees never bring their work home with them, a surgical procedure that in effect turns a worker into two people: the “outtie” who turns up at the company daily at 9 A.M. and goes home at 5 P.M.; and their “innie” alter ego, who exists only in the workplace from 9 to 5 and has no concept of life outside the concrete complex where they work – no awareness of wars, politics, family tensions, social media.
For starters, the procedure that plants a device in your brain, separating your workplace and home-life memories, is irreversible. Then there’s the work environment on the “severed floor” (of course you have to descend, hellbound, to get there), which consists of a warren of never-ending white corridors and sterile office spaces a hospital would envy.
As for the work performed by the four members of the “macrodata refinement” department that the story is centered around, let’s just say that when someone calls it “mysterious and important,” they are half right. (One of the show’s great conceits is that no one actually understands what their work achieves.)
Of course, as with any workplace-set show, the dynamic between the four colleagues, plus their relations with their bosses, is integral to the success of the show, even one as lofty as this. And this is where it really scores, giving characters to care about, humanizing an inhumane concept.

[TRANSITION]

[SEGMENT 4: Convention News] (8-12 minutes)

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[SEGMENT 1: Tales from the Edge of the Galaxy] (8-12 minutes)

Transcription

00:00:01:13 – 00:00:47:19
Michelle
Insightful podcasts by informative host insights into things, a podcast network Welcome to Insights into Entertainment, a podcast series taking a deeper look into entertainment and media Your host Joseph and Michelle Whelan, a husband and wife team of pop culture fanatics, are exploring all things from music and movies to television and fandom.

00:00:50:13 – 00:01:03:23
Joseph
Welcome to Insight into Entertainment. This is episode one 41 Walkouts and Mergers. I’m your host, Joseph Whalen. And my creative and somewhat vulgar at Times co-host Michelle Rowland.

00:01:04:06 – 00:01:09:05
Michelle
Nice. I have no idea what you are referring to.

00:01:09:08 – 00:01:11:22
Joseph
The thing the camera was on. That’s all I got to say.

00:01:12:05 – 00:01:12:27
Michelle
You mean off?

00:01:13:01 – 00:01:18:05
Joseph
Off Anyway, how are you doing today, sweetheart?

00:01:18:15 – 00:01:19:05
Michelle
It’s been a.

00:01:19:05 – 00:01:22:12
Joseph
Day. Indeed. It has been two days for me, I assure you.

00:01:22:16 – 00:01:25:11
Michelle
So it’s been it’s been a week really.

00:01:25:12 – 00:01:28:18
Joseph
You know, most. Most of all, yeah. Fortunately, it’s almost over.

00:01:28:19 – 00:01:29:28
Michelle
Hey, it’s Friday Eve.

00:01:30:25 – 00:01:31:10
Joseph
Yes, it.

00:01:31:10 – 00:01:37:04
Michelle
Is. That’s the way we were talking about it at work. We were like, we’re so close. It’s we’re we’re right there.

00:01:37:05 – 00:01:40:23
Joseph
It just means I’ve got one more day. I got to drag my brother out of bed and go to work.

00:01:40:26 – 00:01:41:07
Michelle
Yep.

00:01:41:19 – 00:01:43:22
Joseph
So, anyway, but that’s not what we’re.

00:01:43:22 – 00:01:45:08
Michelle
Talking, you know, it’s not.

00:01:45:17 – 00:01:50:19
Joseph
No. Today, this is actually a back to back week because we had so many things to talk about.

00:01:51:05 – 00:01:53:13
Michelle
We just didn’t want to let time go.

00:01:53:13 – 00:02:18:27
Joseph
Didn’t want to have people wait till next week for this stuff. So this week, we’re going to take a look at how Disney CEO, how the Disney CEO handled or rather mishandled Florida’s controversial don’t say gay bill. Then we’ll dig in to the next major consolidation move in the entertainment industry with Amazon’s acquisition of MGM. And we’ve got a great insightful pick for you this week.

00:02:19:05 – 00:02:46:19
Joseph
And some convention news, but not much convention news. But before we do that, I do want to implore, beg plead for our listening and viewing audience to subscribe to the podcast. You can find the audio versions of the podcast listed as insights into entertainment. Video versions of this podcast and all of the networks. Podcasts can be found as insights in the things.

00:02:46:19 – 00:03:13:17
Joseph
We also list audio versions on that as well. You can find those on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, and pretty much anywhere you can find a podcast today. I would also invite you to writing. Give us your feedback, tell us how we’re doing how we’re not doing. Give us your your suggestions for pop culture shows or conventions that we can plug on the show.

00:03:14:09 – 00:03:40:24
Joseph
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00:03:40:26 – 00:03:42:02
Joseph
Are we ready.

00:03:43:05 – 00:03:43:23
Michelle
Sure.

00:03:43:26 – 00:03:45:19
Joseph
I love that uncertainty.

00:03:52:07 – 00:03:52:27
Joseph
Go.

00:03:53:21 – 00:04:18:11
Michelle
So it seems that Disney employees are cast members as they are also referred to, were walking out across the U.S. So they’re mad as hell and they’re not going to take it anymore. At least that’s the message that Walt Disney Company’s cast members are trying to send to their corporate overlords. Cast members of the entertainment giant are staging.

00:04:18:11 – 00:04:47:10
Michelle
We’re staging walkouts across the country in protest of CEO Bob Chapek in response to the recent Florida legislature and that’s been dubbed the don’t say gay bill. LG, LGBTQ is a plus. That’s a lot of letter. That’s a lot of letter. So you got to say it’s slow. Workers and allies alike planned a general walkout in locations in Florida, California and elsewhere.

00:04:47:24 – 00:04:59:02
Michelle
Cast members are up in arms at Epic’s tepid response to HB 1557. Right. I did say, okay, it’s a lot of letters.

00:04:59:03 – 00:04:59:25
Joseph
I still.

00:05:00:00 – 00:05:30:19
Michelle
House bill. Oh, there you go. Hey, look at that. So the bill that would prohibit instruction about sexual orientation session or gender identity in kindergarten through the third grade in Florida, unlike his predecessor, Bob Iger, the lesser of the two Bobs thought he could play the politics of the state closer to the vest. Chapek sent a company wide memo on March 7th with his thoughts.

00:05:31:09 – 00:06:06:18
Michelle
Excuse me. He believed the corporation could make the biggest impact by creating a more inclusive world through inspiring content, through the inspiring content we produce. Basically saying it isn’t important enough to get the company involved in the company’s official position on the bill was particularly galling to tens of thousands of Disney employees in the state of Florida. Chapek did issue a late and lukewarm apology, saying it is clear that this is not just an issue about a bill in Florida.

00:06:06:24 – 00:06:30:26
Michelle
But instead yet another challenge to basic human rights. You needed me to be a stronger ally in the fight for equal rights, and I let you down I am sorry. Even his apology seemed to be a bit of a tongue in cheek response, as if yet another challenge to basic human rights is just a bit of an inconvenience and not something worth standing up for.

00:06:31:13 – 00:06:57:10
Michelle
While he admits you needed me to be a stronger ally and I let you down he doesn’t really pledge to do anything to set that straight. He did announce that the company would pause all donations to elected officials in Florida What that’s supposed to accomplish is puzzling. Maybe it’s just makes Disney look less guilty of supporting elected officials content on trampling human rights.

00:06:57:24 – 00:07:25:09
Michelle
Maybe it helps Bob the lesser sleep at night. It certainly doesn’t do anything for those affected by the legislation. Then. In a unified statement, the cast member said the recent statement and lack of action by the Walt Disney Company leadership regarding the Don’t Say Gay or trans bill have utterly failed to match the magnitude of the threat to the LGBTQ eye.

00:07:25:10 – 00:07:56:14
Michelle
A plus safety represented by this legislation, we have been forced into an impossible and unsustainable position. We must now take action to convince the Walt Disney Company to protect cast members and their families in the face of such open and unapologetic unapologetic bigotry. Chapek, who obviously doesn’t know when to cut his losses and move on, poured more gas on the fire with a virtual town hall.

00:07:56:27 – 00:08:16:21
Michelle
The Wall Street Journal reports that Chapek told cast members that he and other top executives were determined to use this moment as a catalyst for more meaningful and lasting change. As a contender for that, too late, too little, too late award of 20 02.

00:08:17:02 – 00:08:17:18
Joseph
2020.

00:08:17:18 – 00:08:53:20
Michelle
Two. Okay. I was going to say, I guess I should have caught that. So the too little too late award of 20, 22. Chapek went on to say that he and other senior leaders would go on a global listening tour of cast members. Chapek Tactless handling of the situation has caused a public relations crisis for himself and the company, which should come as no surprise given so many other Chapek error decisions that have been steadily alienating both cast members and customers from the house of Mickey Mouse.

00:08:54:11 – 00:09:38:05
Michelle
Of course, as seems to be often the case with Chapek playing second fiddle to Bob, the greater his predecessor Bob Iger, saying, I knew that was coming. It still made me laugh. Iger came in strong opposition came in, in strong opposition to the Parental Rights and Education Bill. On February 24th weeks before Chapek felt compelled to apologize for his gaffe during his term helming the media empire, Iger was often center stage and star for such controversial supporting controversies supporting the company’s cast members and their families.

00:09:38:18 – 00:10:15:08
Michelle
Chapek lack of empathy tak listeners his tactless delivery and complete absence of leadership is in stark contrast to the more refined, more enlightened example that Iger offered. And it reflects on the company as a whole. So what do cast members hope to accomplish with this walkout? In an emailed response to a list of questions in an emailed response to a list of questions, they indicated their main goal was to stop the corporation from donating to elected officials who sponsored weaponized and hateful legislation.

00:10:15:20 – 00:10:45:18
Michelle
It’s hard to argue with that. They also expect the company to take a stand against similar legislation. In Georgia, a key production hub for the company’s film and television shows. In a statement, the group said, We believe the Walt Disney Company’s recent statements about their commitment to our community means that any time legislation like this comes up again, they will take a more visible stand and we will plan to hold them accountable for that.

00:10:46:04 – 00:11:18:04
Michelle
Ultimately, it comes down to politics. Republican legislators who advocate who advocated for the bill contend that parents, not teachers, should be the people talking to children about sexuality and gender issues. Maybe in a perfect world, that works. Sadly, we don’t live in a perfect world. Many who support this bill are grossly unqualified to speak in an educated manner about topics if they speak to their children about such topics at all.

00:11:18:25 – 00:11:58:05
Michelle
Democrats argue that the bill demonizes LGTB, LGBTQ plus people, and effective and effective bar students. From speaking freely about sexual orientation and gender identity. In essence, the bill is a violation of free speech. At its core, its use it uses public funds to push a bias a biased, conservative political agenda on students. The measure has passed both House of legislature and now heads to the Republican governor, Ron DeSantis.

00:11:58:14 – 00:12:09:16
Michelle
DeSantis, who has made it very clear he is neither a fan nor advocate for anyone who doesn’t conform to his narrow conservative view of the world, who has already expressed support for the bill.

00:12:10:16 – 00:12:15:07
Joseph
So kudos to the to the cast members at Disney for standing up for this.

00:12:15:08 – 00:12:50:21
Michelle
Absolutely. And, you know, and that’s what’s such a wonderful thing about Disney, you know, because, again, we we bash them on a lot of things and we praise them on on a lot of things to they are very inclusive when it comes to their cast members. And they want equal rights for everybody. So they don’t care what your race is, your gender, your preference, your color or you’re.

00:12:50:22 – 00:12:51:29
Michelle
And I think, you know, I.

00:12:51:29 – 00:13:15:09
Joseph
Think what happened is you had Bob Chapek, who has his personal views on this. And I don’t know what his politics are. I never I didn’t bother to look that up right Right. But clearly, he was of this mindset that the company shouldn’t be involved in these type of political things. What is a knee jerk reaction was unfortunately you’re knee deep in it because you’re contributing to politicians, right?

00:13:15:09 – 00:13:18:11
Joseph
Because you’re trying to get favorable legislation for your company.

00:13:18:14 – 00:13:18:25
Michelle
Right.

00:13:19:03 – 00:13:22:18
Joseph
So you can’t not take a stand.

00:13:22:19 – 00:13:22:29
Michelle
Right.

00:13:24:01 – 00:13:29:06
Joseph
And given the company’s history with Iger, who have never hesitated to take a stand.

00:13:29:08 – 00:13:30:00
Michelle
Absolutely.

00:13:30:00 – 00:13:39:14
Joseph
And was always on taking the moral high ground when it came to these things. You can’t just ignore that example. Stick your head in the sand and pretend that nothing’s happening.

00:13:39:15 – 00:13:39:23
Michelle
Right.

00:13:40:10 – 00:13:42:12
Joseph
Your employees depend on you.

00:13:42:13 – 00:13:42:24
Michelle
Mm hmm.

00:13:43:22 – 00:13:48:06
Joseph
And there’s over 70,000 employees that work for Disney in Florida.

00:13:48:07 – 00:13:48:16
Michelle
Mm hmm.

00:13:48:26 – 00:13:49:19
Joseph
That’s a lot of.

00:13:49:19 – 00:13:50:16
Michelle
Votes, right?

00:13:50:17 – 00:14:06:07
Joseph
Even if a percentage of those people don’t, you know, they might be people that are just here on work visas. And, you know, because Disney has a lot of international staff that work there. Even if you take half of that number, that’s enough to swing a vote.

00:14:06:14 – 00:14:35:04
Michelle
I hope it is. I really hope it is. And especially now that you have so many people who worked in California. Right. Who had to transplant to Florida now, because I’m moving off because of the moving operation, I’m really hoping that a lot of this backwardness clears up Florida because I really don’t even want to go and visit Florida.

00:14:35:12 – 00:15:10:23
Michelle
You know, I know not everybody feels this way. But, you know, and and a lot of people are like, okay, well, you know, I don’t want, you know, my my my my kindergartner talking about this. Okay. That’s not even. So if you have a child in kindergarten who happens to have two moms at home or has two dads at home, this child can’t talk about their family at home because of this act.

00:15:12:12 – 00:15:22:22
Joseph
And if you have a child who simply has questions because they have a fellow student who might have two same gender problems, they can’t ask questions.

00:15:22:27 – 00:15:23:08
Michelle
Right.

00:15:23:09 – 00:15:27:08
Joseph
Their parents, according to this bill, their parents are supposed to explain things to them.

00:15:27:09 – 00:15:27:21
Michelle
Right.

00:15:28:04 – 00:15:38:04
Joseph
And parents who support this bill are wholly unqualified. Explain this because they’re so narrow-Minded themselves. Right. That they don’t want to even take the time to understand it.

00:15:38:10 – 00:16:08:19
Michelle
And and there was a beautiful I’m totally going to botch it. But there was a beautiful meme about, oh, my God, I had to explain, you know, my my gay brother to, you know, my kid, you know, and it was like, why does you know uncle? You know, Bobby, you always hang out with Joe. Oh, because they love each other.

00:16:09:10 – 00:16:23:08
Michelle
Okay. Right. That’s a that is what a typical kid is going to say. All you have to do is say they love each other, or that’s whoever’s parents and kids are going to be okay.

00:16:23:09 – 00:16:25:24
Joseph
And that’s the foundation that you need to start.

00:16:25:24 – 00:16:33:06
Michelle
Exactly. Because to a little kid, it doesn’t matter. Color doesn’t matter. Exactly. They do.

00:16:33:06 – 00:16:44:16
Joseph
Two people love each other. It’s the most fundamental feeling that a child could understand and love. And if you start off with that, everything else is so much easier for that.

00:16:44:20 – 00:17:09:08
Michelle
And here’s the other thing. Okay, so now you can’t talk about, you know, different gender laws or whatever or. Okay. Because, again, this really is two different things. Sexual identity is one. Gender identity is another. So now how many times, you know, do you say to a little kid, oh, is that your little girlfriend? Is that your little boyfriend?

00:17:09:21 – 00:17:13:20
Michelle
How many times do we sexually guys toddlers?

00:17:13:21 – 00:17:14:02
Joseph
Right.

00:17:14:14 – 00:17:20:29
Michelle
Where you’re basically putting on them that they’re saying, well.

00:17:21:06 – 00:17:33:19
Joseph
And then the other side of this. Right. That you’ve got you’re basically those people that mentally abuse them who don’t conform to what they think are normal.

00:17:33:20 – 00:17:34:01
Michelle
Right.

00:17:34:02 – 00:17:42:18
Joseph
You just gave them carte blanche now. Right. You you’re now advocating for that. What politician wants to put his stamp of approval on that?

00:17:42:18 – 00:17:42:25
Michelle
Right.

00:17:43:08 – 00:17:48:01
Joseph
That’s political suicide. It’s stupid enough to vote for that bill, right?

00:17:49:07 – 00:17:49:13
Michelle
Yeah.

00:17:50:00 – 00:17:51:28
Joseph
Remember who voted for in Florida?

00:17:52:04 – 00:17:53:02
Michelle
Absolutely.

00:17:53:10 – 00:17:58:14
Joseph
Because come their reelection time, it’s your choice to get rid of them at that point in time.

00:17:59:01 – 00:18:18:05
Michelle
Yeah, it’s and it’s scary that, you know, again, if you don’t feel that way, that’s fine. We’re not saying everybody has to be that way. Just let people love who they want to love and be who they want to be.

00:18:18:06 – 00:18:21:26
Joseph
The fact of the matter is, even if you’re not like that, other people.

00:18:21:26 – 00:18:23:02
Michelle
Are and you are.

00:18:23:24 – 00:18:26:12
Joseph
Right to tell them who they can and can’t love.

00:18:26:13 – 00:18:34:12
Michelle
Right. And more than likely, you know, somebody if they haven’t come out to you to tell you, you already know somebody. Right.

00:18:34:13 – 00:18:39:26
Joseph
And this is just another example of of Bob Chapek, just not getting it.

00:18:40:02 – 00:19:12:06
Michelle
Right. Like if he would have come out right, you know, right away. And that’s the thing is now, you know, you see Disney posting and Disney plus posting and Marvel closing and Pixar and all of, you know, the companies supporting it. And you know, and there’s one Disney group on Facebook who, you know, pointed out that one of the accounts had posted it but taken it down because there had been a typo or something.

00:19:12:11 – 00:19:33:16
Michelle
And of course, you know, all the trolls were, oh, so you they really didn’t mean it. They were fixing a typo, like. Right. Jeans people, you know. And granted, there are plenty of Disney fans who are happy that that Disney feels this way and hate that you know, Disney does gay days and and and all of this other stuff.

00:19:33:16 – 00:19:42:14
Michelle
And, you know, and that’s the thing that drives me crazy because these are the you know, Christian fundamentalists. Right. Right.

00:19:42:18 – 00:19:44:05
Joseph
That love everybody.

00:19:44:05 – 00:19:51:26
Michelle
But love everybody. But only if they’re like me. Right. I that’s the only you have to be like me and I will love you. Right.

00:19:51:27 – 00:20:06:22
Joseph
Well, what got me was even even in Chadwick’s apology, right? He says, you know, it instead, it’s yet another challenge to basic human rights, like, oh, what a pain in the ass. We have to deal with another challenge. A basic human like.

00:20:06:25 – 00:20:13:17
Michelle
We really died in 20, 22. We shouldn’t have to be having to deal with. Right.

00:20:13:18 – 00:20:33:03
Joseph
I agree that you’re human, right? It shouldn’t be an inconvenience to you. The problem that you have is if you don’t want to play politics, then you can’t play politics, which means. Right. You can’t go out and buy your own politicians, right? Because if you’re buying your own politicians, they damn well better vote in your favor, right? Otherwise, you’re wasting your money.

00:20:33:04 – 00:20:40:04
Joseph
Right. The fact that they’re coming out and saying, well, we’re not going to contribute to politicians anymore, you shouldn’t have been doing it in the first place.

00:20:40:14 – 00:20:40:26
Michelle
Right.

00:20:40:28 – 00:20:46:10
Joseph
And then coming back saying, you don’t want to get involved in politics. You’re neck deep in it, dude. You don’t have a choice.

00:20:46:11 – 00:21:16:17
Michelle
Right? And I’m sure there’s a lot of other stuff with tax credits and all this other stuff, you know, because obviously Disney is a big supporter of, you know, the Florida gig economy. But the thing is now there’s also a lot of other companies out there, too. So you know, I’m sure is universal. And, you know, all of these other companies kind of came together and put the strong on.

00:21:17:07 – 00:21:24:17
Michelle
You know, it would make a difference, you know, so you you need Disney, but you need everybody else to kind of do it as well.

00:21:24:26 – 00:21:26:26
Joseph
Corporate America needs to do the right thing.

00:21:27:06 – 00:21:27:27
Michelle
Absolutely.

00:21:27:27 – 00:21:43:19
Joseph
I mean, that’s as simple as it is. And you can’t you can’t abdicate your responsibility when you’re that involved in politics. And they don’t mention in the articles that I researched how much Disney was giving. But, you know, it’s not pocket change.

00:21:43:20 – 00:21:44:28
Michelle
Oh, yeah.

00:21:44:29 – 00:21:49:07
Joseph
When you’re that involved in politics and you’re trying to buy your own politicians.

00:21:49:25 – 00:21:50:24
Michelle
You know, just.

00:21:50:24 – 00:21:52:04
Joseph
Pretend that you’re not part of.

00:21:52:04 – 00:22:01:21
Michelle
Politics. Right. You know, they have their own lobbyists. Right. Sure. You know, the full time, you know, lobbyists for for everything. So.

00:22:02:05 – 00:22:05:19
Joseph
So Disney getting it wrong again. But really, Bob, Chapek.

00:22:05:29 – 00:22:06:05
Michelle
Yeah.

00:22:06:05 – 00:22:19:08
Joseph
Just terrible. Like complete lack of leadership. You know, I was never a fan of Bob Iger, you know, that I think the man was paid more ten times more than he should have been paid for what he was doing.

00:22:19:09 – 00:22:19:21
Michelle
Right.

00:22:20:00 – 00:22:24:03
Joseph
But he looks like a saint compared to Chapek at this point in time.

00:22:24:04 – 00:22:24:13
Michelle
Yeah.

00:22:25:02 – 00:22:30:17
Joseph
Bob the lesser, that’s how I felt will forever refer to Bob Chapek.

00:22:30:17 – 00:22:34:09
Michelle
The lesser, the lesser of two. Bob. Yeah, I like.

00:22:34:09 – 00:23:07:06
Joseph
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00:23:42:00 – 00:24:22:17
Joseph
And w w w dot the second tip and fire dot com So what does the Amazon MGM deal mean for the entertainment industry? The man with the Golden Wallet now owns the man with the Golden Gun and much more. Amazon has agreed to purchase the film and television studio MGM for nearly $8.5 billion. At first glance, that number sounds big, but in reality it’s insignificant compared to so much that’s going on in the industry now.

00:24:23:19 – 00:24:58:04
Joseph
The merger was actually first announced last May. And just recently became official. It’s the second largest acquisition for Amazon after Whole Foods. It’s also the latest in a string of mega mergers within the entertainment industry, including AT&T merger of WarnerMedia and Discovery last year. Included in the iconic merger our brand included in the merger, our iconic brands, including the James Bond franchise Rocky, The Silence of the Lambs and Legally Blond, just to name a few.

00:24:59:03 – 00:25:21:07
Joseph
The merger has been cleared by the European Commission, having concluded their investigation into the merger of the European Commission, determined the merger would not significantly reduce competition in the markets. The U.S. government hasn’t given its blessing on the union yet, but the two companies signed the dotted line anyway to make it official nonetheless, which I thought was kind of interesting.

00:25:22:02 – 00:25:54:20
Joseph
They clearly don’t think what the U.S. government cares about this one Will we see Amazon Prime video selections options start to open up? Well, it’s unclear when or if Prime subscribers will get the full MGM catalog, an impressive library that contains more than 4000 films and over 17,000 TV episodes. Some industry experts think this and other mergers might signal a dark time for streaming ahead.

00:25:55:14 – 00:26:05:16
Joseph
Mergers like this mean less choice for consumers I don’t know why you went to your camera on that one there, but you had a really good reaction on your face when I said that.

00:26:07:18 – 00:26:08:17
Michelle
So riveting.

00:26:08:21 – 00:26:34:29
Joseph
We’ll fix it and post any time. There’s less choice and therefore less competition. It means higher prices. Just what we need right about now, right? The streaming wars have sparked a new era of consolidation, which is already underway. This still has a way to go before they get overly restrictive but they’re already moving in that direction. So what do I say?

00:26:35:12 – 00:26:37:11
Joseph
Playing Disney, everybody else does.

00:26:37:29 – 00:26:39:06
Michelle
Sure. Why not?

00:26:39:06 – 00:27:05:02
Joseph
Amazon, Netflix, and just about everyone else are trying to bolster their reserves of intellectual property in order to compete with Disney with their new and highly successful streaming service. Disney Plus. So you can’t really blame Amazon for this. Disney threw down the gantlet in 2009 when they acquired Marvel Entertainment. The neglected property wasn’t all that impressive at the time, but we see what Disney has done with it since then.

00:27:05:23 – 00:27:31:28
Joseph
Disney then raised the stakes again in 2012 when they bought Lucasfilm Between their original work, their Pixar properties Move Marvel and Lucasfilm, Disney essentially locked up 90% of the target audience as childhood under one roof. Of course, they spent a year squandering the opportunities they had by housing their works on other streaming networks until they launched their own streaming service in 2019.

00:27:32:20 – 00:27:56:06
Joseph
But since then everyone has been trying to be Disney in the streaming world. So what’s the end result for consumers Static catalogs are well and good, if you like, rewatching TV shows and movies, but the real money is in new content, right? Maybe it’s likely that Amazon will be milking their newly acquired properties like Rocky and James Bond, for sure.

00:27:56:27 – 00:28:02:12
Joseph
You may even get spinoffs based on your favorite characters. I mean, Rocky is nothing but spinoffs at this point.

00:28:02:19 – 00:28:03:04
Michelle
True.

00:28:03:26 – 00:28:23:11
Joseph
But that also means you’ll have you’ll likely have fewer unique stories emerging from these studios. You’re likely to get retreads of what you’ve already seen, which is pretty much what we see with Disney now. I mean, Disney, sure, they’re still putting out original content but a lot of what Disney is doing is taking some of the stuff that they haven’t rereleasing it.

00:28:23:17 – 00:28:32:05
Joseph
You know, we’re seeing live action versions of animated versions of their movies. It’s like okay, you guys can’t come up with original stories at this point.

00:28:32:08 – 00:28:44:29
Michelle
Well, one of the the newer movies that just came out was Cheaper by the Dozen, which was a remake of, you know, a Steve Martin movie. So I was kind of like, wait, what? We already. Yeah.

00:28:45:12 – 00:28:47:06
Joseph
So you’re seeing the retreads coming out.

00:28:47:06 – 00:28:48:09
Michelle
Of Disney, right? Right.

00:28:48:12 – 00:29:10:12
Joseph
You’re probably going to see the same thing coming out of Amazon. Now, Amazon has not hesitated to drop money on projects that they like. You know, we’re very fortunate that they picked up the experience, these fans. Right. You know, they saved a show that we absolutely loved and they’ve hemorrhaged money into it for effects and story and staff and everything else.

00:29:10:13 – 00:29:19:19
Michelle
Right. And you can definitely see the difference between from what it was on sci fi and then when it came over to Amazon Prime. So, absolutely.

00:29:19:19 – 00:29:28:05
Joseph
So it’s reasonable to think that they’re going to continue that trend with their MGM properties. Hopefully maybe.

00:29:28:14 – 00:29:36:09
Michelle
I don’t know. Do you need to have, you know, a remake of Rocky or.

00:29:36:10 – 00:29:41:15
Joseph
Well, and that’s a thing you’ve you’ve got the Creed movies that are that are the true true.

00:29:41:16 – 00:29:46:02
Michelle
You could, you know, or maybe find, you know, but.

00:29:46:02 – 00:29:47:14
Joseph
They also have Lord of the Rings.

00:29:47:20 – 00:29:52:17
Michelle
True. And Lord of the Lord of the Rings TV series is coming out. So they’ve.

00:29:52:17 – 00:30:01:06
Joseph
Got that. They’ve got RoboCop, which is a dead franchise. They try to revive that with the new movie, but that’s certainly something that you can pick up and run.

00:30:01:07 – 00:30:05:15
Michelle
Right. And I could see doing not maybe James Bond, but something.

00:30:05:15 – 00:30:06:09
Joseph
James Bond.

00:30:07:05 – 00:30:12:11
Michelle
Sure. You know, something in that, you know, genre. Yeah.

00:30:12:12 – 00:30:23:17
Joseph
So I think I think what would be interesting then would be to see how the female got to her position. I like a like a Cold War precursor of.

00:30:23:21 – 00:30:34:07
Michelle
And that’s what would be like interesting to see is, you know, okay, we always see them, the movies and everything with James Bond in the back. What’s the background? What how?

00:30:34:12 – 00:30:39:03
Joseph
And then the Star Wars is doing. Right. That’s what Disney did through our wars as they went to the fringe.

00:30:39:04 – 00:30:39:17
Michelle
Right.

00:30:39:21 – 00:30:42:17
Joseph
We’re not doing the mainstream. We’re bringing mainstream characters.

00:30:42:17 – 00:30:51:24
Michelle
In just every now and then mission. Right. Like you obviously have to have somebody as James Bond, but you don’t necessarily need to see him. Right. You know, let’s make.

00:30:51:24 – 00:30:53:13
Joseph
Guest appearances periodically.

00:30:53:14 – 00:30:54:19
Michelle
Right. Exactly.

00:30:54:25 – 00:30:58:14
Joseph
That guy that just walked by, that was Jane. That was 07, by the way.

00:30:58:14 – 00:31:00:20
Michelle
Right. Who’s six?

00:31:00:22 – 00:31:01:02
Joseph
Right.

00:31:01:11 – 00:31:11:13
Michelle
You know, to tell the history of who was the one, how did you get one, two, three and obviously seven, who’s eight, nine and ten.

00:31:11:13 – 00:31:35:28
Joseph
So and that’s what we might see with some of the spin offs that they’re talking about here. But I think they’re right. The the analysts are right. What you’re going to see is a continue mark continued march towards consolidation. We saw it. We’re seeing the same thing in video games, too. Everything in entertainment is going towards sucking up all these separate companies, putting them under these big, giant umbrellas.

00:31:35:28 – 00:31:41:17
Joseph
And you’re going to go back ironically, you know, back in the seventies and eighties, you had three networks.

00:31:41:19 – 00:32:08:04
Michelle
Right. And they’re going to have higher end. Yeah. Because that you have Paramount plus. So everything under all of those and Breathless is is now the one Disney now ended up getting all of their things that had been on Netflix and other places. So even the Netflix original Marvel shows like Daredevil and Luke Cage.

00:32:08:15 – 00:32:16:29
Joseph
You know what I mentioned earlier was that Marvel or Disney really squandered a lot of their own or not intellectual property early on because they didn’t have any place.

00:32:16:29 – 00:32:38:19
Michelle
Right. They didn’t have it right. So they said, okay, you can do this and you can have this. And now they’re like, right, we want it. And now it’s all there. So now you actually have the parental controls on Disney Plus, because when Disney Plus first started, you didn’t have to worry about it right now, all of those other, you know, things, but they’re the.

00:32:38:19 – 00:32:49:05
Joseph
Downfall to that is the elimination of competition always means higher prices because there’s absolutely no reason for these companies to compete against each other in a.

00:32:49:05 – 00:32:52:04
Michelle
Price war. And we’ve already seen price increases.

00:32:52:04 – 00:32:52:17
Joseph
Yeah.

00:32:52:18 – 00:32:54:07
Michelle
Start so from it.

00:32:54:07 – 00:33:04:23
Joseph
That’s that’s the thing that’s probably the most damaging thing from a creative standpoint. They’re still going to be churning out content. They’re still going to keep the franchises alive.

00:33:04:24 – 00:33:05:05
Michelle
Right.

00:33:05:10 – 00:33:15:06
Joseph
You may even see this revive some franchises that have been neglected. You may see a revival of a RoboCop franchise because they’ve got the property for it now. They’ve got the budget for it.

00:33:15:06 – 00:33:15:18
Michelle
Right.

00:33:16:02 – 00:33:30:05
Joseph
So that’s one thing that that I think the creative side is probably going to continue to go because that’s where the money is. But it’s going to cost more, right? You know, if you want to see a new RoboCop movie, you’re going to have to pay for it somehow.

00:33:30:07 – 00:33:30:16
Michelle
Hmm.

00:33:31:07 – 00:33:36:12
Joseph
Maybe it’s, you know, an extra $5 for your Amazon Prime subscription now.

00:33:36:14 – 00:33:37:06
Michelle
Right, right.

00:33:37:07 – 00:33:42:03
Joseph
Whatever it is. But Amazon has never hesitated to raise their prices as they added more services.

00:33:42:04 – 00:33:42:15
Michelle
Right.

00:33:43:10 – 00:33:47:11
Joseph
Amazon is one of those companies that at least you see a return for your investment.

00:33:47:12 – 00:33:47:21
Michelle
Um.

00:33:48:11 – 00:33:54:19
Joseph
You know, Disney is notorious for on a regular schedule increasing prices for everything.

00:33:54:19 – 00:33:54:29
Michelle
Right.

00:33:55:06 – 00:34:21:08
Joseph
And you year after year don’t feel you’re getting a return for that investment. Whereas every time Amazon gives you something they usually give you something. After they usually give you a raise in price after you’ve gotten some kind of service out of them. So there’s definitely an incentive to accept those prices. I think you’re your average user will be less hesitant to accept those price.

00:34:21:08 – 00:34:43:28
Michelle
Right. And again, because when when you’re talking about Amazon Prime, you’re not just talking the television stuff, you’re you know, you’re also with the music. And you also have the free shipping and advantages of that. So and that’s all kind of bundled together. Whereas, you know, with like a Disney plus all it is, is just.

00:34:44:07 – 00:34:47:04
Joseph
Do you think we’ll ever see a Disney MGM studios again?

00:34:47:06 – 00:34:53:09
Michelle
They’ll I wonder how much I can get from my share on the USA Sea.

00:34:54:03 – 00:35:00:23
Joseph
Well, on Amazon the other thing to note here is do they take control of the MGM Grand Casino?

00:35:01:00 – 00:35:02:05
Michelle
Really?

00:35:02:19 – 00:35:03:12
Joseph
Well, I don’t know.

00:35:03:18 – 00:35:04:28
Michelle
I don’t know do that.

00:35:04:28 – 00:35:06:21
Joseph
I don’t know if they take control that.

00:35:06:23 – 00:35:08:07
Michelle
Yeah, I don’t know how the.

00:35:08:08 – 00:35:11:05
Joseph
Business would be in control of the casino is terrifying.

00:35:11:05 – 00:35:12:12
Michelle
That is kind of scary.

00:35:12:16 – 00:35:13:00
Joseph
Yeah.

00:35:14:01 – 00:35:16:16
Michelle
You get Amazon credits or something right?

00:35:16:16 – 00:35:17:08
Joseph
There you go.

00:35:17:13 – 00:35:20:02
Michelle
The Amazon gift cards, when you cash out.

00:35:20:14 – 00:35:22:14
Joseph
They just drop out of the slot machines. Now.

00:35:22:26 – 00:35:24:02
Michelle
That would be kind of funny.

00:35:24:25 – 00:35:28:23
Joseph
Yeah. They didn’t mention that and the articles that I read, but that would be interesting.

00:35:28:24 – 00:35:29:03
Michelle
Yeah.

00:35:29:09 – 00:35:34:24
Joseph
Yeah. But anyway, I don’t think the end is near. I think there’s a lot more acquisitions to happen out there and.

00:35:35:11 – 00:35:38:09
Michelle
People have too much money to to burn.

00:35:38:09 – 00:35:49:00
Joseph
I got eight, eight and a half billion dollars. You know, I wish I had that much. So there’s certainly other things I can spend that on than buying a studio that’s for sure. I have a studio. I love my studio.

00:35:49:17 – 00:35:50:02
Michelle
Do you?

00:35:50:02 – 00:35:54:05
Joseph
I do. I’m always trying to change it and evolve it, but that’s okay.

00:35:54:05 – 00:35:54:22
Michelle
Right, right.

00:35:54:23 – 00:35:55:28
Joseph
Life is change. Right?

00:35:56:20 – 00:35:57:14
Michelle
There you go.

00:35:57:19 – 00:36:06:15
Joseph
Anyway, that was all for our entertainment news. We’ll be back after a quick break with a good pick of the insightful Pick of the Week.

00:36:06:17 – 00:36:33:09
Michelle
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00:36:35:15 – 00:36:49:10
Michelle
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Michelle
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00:37:17:20 – 00:37:19:07
Joseph
Go for your insightful page.

00:37:19:16 – 00:37:48:20
Michelle
So we haven’t been doing insightful picks for the past couple of weeks. Since we changed formats, we changed format. So you know, every now and then we’ll kind of sprinkle it in. So this is a very interesting show and especially you know, for those that have that work slash home life, it’s an interesting take on it. It’s mystery drama thriller.

00:37:49:01 – 00:38:16:17
Michelle
You’re not really sure what’s going on, but I’m sure by the end of the show more will be revealed. And the show is called Severance and it is on Apple TV. So that’s the only place as of right now that that you can find it. So the premise is that Mark leads a team of office workers whose memories have been surgically divided between their work and personal lives.

00:38:16:29 – 00:38:56:00
Michelle
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00:38:56:13 – 00:39:35:01
Michelle
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00:39:35:11 – 00:40:14:03
Michelle
Then there’s a work environment on the severed floor. Of course you have to descend, you know, to to get there, which consists of some kind of a warden of a path of never ending corridors and sterile office spaces of kind of like a what a hospital would envy. So an as the work is performed by four members of the Micro Data Refinement Department, that the story is kind of centered around, let’s just say that when someone calls it a mysterious and poor in work, they’re kind of half right.

00:40:14:12 – 00:40:46:10
Michelle
One of the show’s great conceits is that no one actually understands what their work achieves. Of course, as with any workplace set show, the dynamic between the four colleagues plus their relations with their bosses is integral to the success of the show, even one as lofty as this. And this is where it really scores giving some care, giving us characters to care about and in and humanizing and inhumane concept.

00:40:46:22 – 00:41:28:14
Michelle
So it’s a very interesting because again, we know that we have, you know, in our daily life, you know, those of us that that work, we have our work persona and we have our home persona. So this is kind of an interesting spin because you don’t know the two and you almost become two different people. But what ends up happening is this one person who worked for the department found a way to to take it out, but now is going through all this, you know, like mind meld type stuff where he doesn’t know which end is up.

00:41:28:24 – 00:41:56:12
Michelle
And obviously the company knows something happened. So now they’re kind of like doing a witch hunt to find him. So what’s interesting is, you know, this job that they’re doing, they don’t really know what their they’re doing. And it’s so funny because it’s supposed to be this, you know, kind of high tech company, but they’re working on computers that are like, you know, 20 years old and doing all these things like you’re like, what?

00:41:56:21 – 00:42:17:29
Michelle
And it all, you know, so one of my theories is that what they’re doing, it really has to do with the implant and that’s what the job entails, is monitoring these people and making sure that you can, you know, that you can control them to to do all this stuff. You know, like the one person tries to to quit.

00:42:18:17 – 00:42:41:25
Michelle
And she basically gets a message from her Audi saying you’re not quitting, we will do everything to keep you here. This is your job, you know, because as soon as you kind of go down like the elevator or you go up the elevator to leave for the day, you all of a sudden you don’t even remember what your job was like.

00:42:41:25 – 00:43:07:04
Michelle
You kind of go into a locker room. You change your watch, you change your shoes, you change your badge. And the other interesting thing, too, is anybody that works on the severed floor, nobody starts work at the same time. Everybody’s shifted by, you know, 10 minutes so that you don’t run into anybody. Right. Right. You know, because you don’t know who this person is until you get down there.

00:43:07:06 – 00:43:34:27
Michelle
And the other thing, too, is so many people, like when they get to work, they feel like, oh, wasn’t I just here? Like, you don’t feel rested because you don’t realize that you left. So it’s very interesting when you kind of, you know, think about it. And then now as the season’s progressing, this one department who never met anybody else except for like top management now is all of a sudden running into other people.

00:43:34:27 – 00:43:48:26
Michelle
And they’re like, we never we know who you are, but we never run into you. And and so there’s all this interesting, you know, dynamic mix of, you know, oh, crap. Now we got to keep them separated. How do we do this?

00:43:48:26 – 00:43:50:20
Joseph
So how many episodes are there in.

00:43:50:20 – 00:44:01:00
Michelle
The AI series? I think they’re going to be eight total single season. Yeah. Yeah. As of right now, I don’t know if it’s something where, you know.

00:44:01:16 – 00:44:04:18
Joseph
I’m assuming it’s something that there working to a conclusion.

00:44:04:22 – 00:44:31:10
Michelle
Yeah. For the season. Yeah. And it’s like, all right. And the other thing, too, is there are some people that are on this floor that aren’t severed that know that there’s, you know, so like the one person who’s the boss is kind of spying on the one person in both lives, you know? But so that’s where it kind of makes me think that, you know, what their job is has nothing like.

00:44:31:14 – 00:44:33:03
Joseph
Sounds very Orwellian.

00:44:33:03 – 00:44:58:23
Michelle
Yes. Yes, it does. Yeah. So it’s it’s a little freaky, you know, especially when you first watch it you know, but as you get into it, it’s definitely one where I want to see how things go. And each week it’s interesting because different people post different things they even have a LinkedIn page now for they set up a spoof LinkedIn page for the company.

00:44:59:13 – 00:45:16:03
Michelle
And then I think there was even a book that became available on, on Apple Books. I believe it was free. That was kind of like written by somebody that worked for the company and got out Right. So they’re they’re putting all these little Easter egg things out there. So that’s kind of cool that they’re doing that.

00:45:16:16 – 00:45:35:20
Joseph
Halo did the same thing when it first came out. You had all these mysterious things online stuff like that. So very cool. Very cool pic. Thank you. So we’ll be right back with some quick afterthoughts So I think we had one, right?

00:45:35:20 – 00:45:41:17
Michelle
Because the one that was supposed to be that same weekend, unfortunately, got canceled.

00:45:41:20 – 00:45:42:12
Joseph
We shall not talk.

00:45:42:12 – 00:46:15:25
Michelle
About so we won’t talk about it. So the the biggest one that’s kind of coming up in the area is Fan Expo which is formerly known as Wizard World. That is going to be at the Philadelphia Convention Center from April 10th, sorry, eighth to the 10th So join tens of thousands of fans who are just like you and experience the ultimate playground for comics, sci fi, horror, anime and gaming, Three days of citywide events, family friendly attractions and world renowned celebrities await.

00:46:16:05 – 00:46:40:23
Michelle
The showtimes will be Friday from four to 9 p.m., Saturday ten to seven and Sunday, ten to five. I believe up until today or tomorrow, you can still preorder tickets. The cheapest they come is $37, and then they’ll go to 47. But that’s also it depends on which day you go.

00:46:41:00 – 00:46:41:29
Joseph
We got tickets.

00:46:42:03 – 00:46:44:24
Michelle
Yeah, well, maybe we’ll do that after where.

00:46:45:09 – 00:46:47:01
Joseph
Prince Humperdinck is going to be there.

00:46:47:03 – 00:46:47:17
Michelle
Oh, my.

00:46:47:17 – 00:46:49:06
Joseph
God. That’s awesome.

00:46:49:06 – 00:46:50:29
Michelle
Spike’s going to be there.

00:46:52:10 – 00:46:52:29
Joseph
And who else?

00:46:53:25 – 00:47:01:27
Michelle
And and. And betas. And nice. Yeah, later. And. And Gates McFadden from Star Trek.

00:47:01:27 – 00:47:02:27
Joseph
Will get a lot of Star Trek.

00:47:03:01 – 00:47:04:09
Michelle
Yeah. So they’re probably doing a whole.

00:47:04:09 – 00:47:06:09
Joseph
And he’s going to be there. Jonathan free.

00:47:06:11 – 00:47:09:00
Michelle
Yeah. So they’re probably doing a whole star Trekkie.

00:47:09:02 – 00:47:12:01
Joseph
The original Cirque is going to be there and not the one in the live action.

00:47:12:02 – 00:47:13:26
Michelle
Right. Right. So, yeah.

00:47:14:00 – 00:47:15:10
Joseph
Michael Rooker is going to be.

00:47:15:13 – 00:47:18:21
Michelle
Oh, wow. Kevin Smith and Carl Weathers.

00:47:18:21 – 00:47:20:11
Joseph
Was there a new Rocky movie or something?

00:47:22:00 – 00:47:29:25
Michelle
Well, no, because he’s probably there with with. So they’re right. So they’re doing the whole Mandalorian and then, of course, David Tennant, who, you know.

00:47:30:18 – 00:47:31:22
Joseph
Who was.

00:47:33:12 – 00:47:36:28
Michelle
So funny. Oh, boy.

00:47:36:28 – 00:47:40:25
Joseph
Yeah. We got to get our tickets. Yeah, definitely. That’s the that’s the place to be.

00:47:40:26 – 00:47:42:08
Michelle
Yep. Sure is.

00:47:42:22 – 00:47:45:01
Joseph
Anything else coming up on the horizon and where?

00:47:45:15 – 00:47:54:07
Michelle
Well, we had the, the little toy show in. That’s the weekend before that. That’s the one that’s in Delaware. The nursery.

00:47:54:11 – 00:47:54:22
Joseph
Rhyme.

00:47:54:22 – 00:47:55:05
Michelle
One. Yeah.

00:47:55:05 – 00:47:57:18
Joseph
Right now we got a plug down we love plug in minute one.

00:47:57:18 – 00:47:57:27
Michelle
Yeah.

00:47:58:21 – 00:48:03:00
Joseph
We’ll probably wind up going out one, too. I can’t spend too months there for going to Fan Expo the next week.

00:48:03:01 – 00:48:04:10
Michelle
Right? Right. Exactly.

00:48:04:11 – 00:48:27:06
Joseph
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00:48:27:06 – 00:48:39:09
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00:48:39:09 – 00:48:44:14
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00:48:44:17 – 00:48:49:18
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00:48:49:18 – 00:48:55:05
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00:48:55:17 – 00:49:03:14
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00:49:03:14 – 00:49:08:16
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00:49:08:17 – 00:49:13:20
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00:49:13:27 – 00:49:24:05
Michelle
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00:49:24:06 – 00:49:25:19
Joseph
That’s it. Another one of the books.

00:49:25:19 – 00:49:27:22
Michelle
Have a good week everyone. Buy by.