Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 26 “Clueless in Disney”

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Insightful pocket by informative posts, insights, and a podcast network.
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come to insights into entertainment, a podcast series, taking a deeper look into entertainment and media. Your hosts, Joseph and Michelle Waylon, a husband and wife, team of pop culture, phonetics are exploring all things from music and movies to television and fandom.
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welcome to insights into entertainment. This is episode 26 clueless in Disney. I’m your host, Joseph Waylon. And My, what do we have here? Radiant and wonderful cohost, Michelle Wayland. Nine please. How are you today? Here? I’m okay. How are you? I’m, I’m awesome. So it looks like we have a fairly, uh, team podcast this week compared to the marathon ones we ran last week. Yes, we do. So, uh, in Disney detective, we have, uh, uh, some commentary on childless millennials at Disney. Let me, let me follow up on a previous story about a Spiderman, a grave marker. And then we have the unfortunate passing of the voice of Minnie mouse and on to our entertainment news, we have some information on, um, supporting hair, dying with celebrities. I guess I’ll characterize it as that. We’ll talk more about that. And then Katie Perry and, uh, others are paying, uh, copyright infringements now. So then we’ll get into our insightful picks after that. So are we ready to get going? Oh, let’s roll. Let’s do it. Go for Disney detective.
Speaker 5:
2:24
So there was a funny article that came out a this week that was, uh, kind of pointing fun at a tweet that had actually gone out. The original tweet was actually back in September of last year, where it basically, it was this mother, um, of a, I guess three-year-old. Yeah, a three year old who basically went on a, a whole tie rate and rant about millennials going to Disney and right. Ranting
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at Disney. That never happens this way. It’s easily right. That’s, you
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know, and she goes on to say about, you know, childless couple shouldn’t go to Disney world, that it’s for families with kids and that, you know, you’re, you’re making the lines longer and I’m not able to get my Mickey Mouse Pretzel because you’re buying up all the snacks, you know, and, and, you know, she goes on this whole rant and you know, then there was, you know, a whole bunch of people that were like, oh my God, this is my new favorite, you know, mommy posts. I’m that millennial who is making your kids cry, you know, at dessert. So this one person, you know, wrote this article saying that childless millennials aren’t the problem. It’s clueless parents that are, and, um, you know, and the person that wrote this article, you know, goes on to talk about that. You know, if you’re waiting online for three hours for a ride, you’re the one that’s causing this problem.
Speaker 5:
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You know, it, your screaming child, you know, is screaming because nobody should wait online for, for three hours, for anything. Um, and it basically goes on to talk about how, you know, planning a trip to Disney really is almost a military operation that you need to take the time to plan, to get your FastPasses to, you know, to do your dining reservations and, and you know, you know, plan out your day, especially when you have young children, if you know that they need to take naps at certain times and if you, you know, uh, you know, if they, they won’t stand online for, for longer than you know, a half hour than don’t get on that line. Um, so, you know, it was kind of funny, you know, that the person that wrote the article said that, you know, that their family, you know, went on a trip, they had planned things out and you know what, the millennials didn’t bother them because they were doing their thing.
Speaker 5:
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The family was doing their thing. Um, they said that they also saw parents that their kids were miserable and they kind of felt bad when, you know, you’re waiting on a of line for seven dwarfs, mine train. That’s a three hour wait when the ride is only a three minute wait. Who? Who’s the, you know, who’s the idiot? Then he said something about, you know, that when they got on, you know, the fast pass line, you know, don’t make eye contact, don’t make eye contact cause you didn’t hit, you felt bad for the parents, you know, that are sitting there. And I know we’ve kind of had that to where, you know, we had a fast pass for something. We’re like, dude, did you do, you know, you kinda feel cool. Like yeah, I’m one of the cool kids. I’m not waiting in. And you are, ha ha ha. And I like how it’s, it’s sort of poking fun at this tirade, but really the problem isn’t with the millennials. No. Is it with this mother,
Speaker 4:
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the problem is with Disney, right? Disney should not, you know, I’ve said for the longest time that there isn’t a single ride in Disney that’s worth a three hour week.
Speaker 5:
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The fact that we’re a two hour wait, even the fact that they allow a line get that long. A shameful Disney’s part. No. And we’ve chatted about that before. Huh?
Speaker 4:
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The ride, you should have a certain amount of time that you allow people to wait in line and cut the line at that point and don’t even let people stand in line. Let that line cut down. Then you open up back on me and let people. Huh?
Speaker 5:
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Or you do like what Dumbo does where they have a reservation type thing where they have a play area that the kids can go and play and then you have a buzzer that goes off when it’s your time. I’m okay with that. What I’m not okay with is what they did with winning the pool or what they did with Peter Pan or what they did with haunted mansion where they make the lines the line and interactive like alteration Disney.
Speaker 4:
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He can get away with making standing in line and attraction because it’s literally that bad. I mean the, the parks, if you’ve got that many people in your park standing in line for that long, you’ve got too many people in your park. You need to cut down and it’s all about money obviously. Obviously you need to cut down the number of people that you’re allowing and park at a time or you need to provide better accommodations for these people. You need to provide more fast spaces. The fact that I can go to to magic kingdom and I can only get three fast passes, which I can get more after I use those up. But you really, you can’t because no fast passes are generally available,
Speaker 5:
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right. Depending on how early your fast passes are and stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 4:
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deal with my rides, like reservations that arrested, let me make reservations. I can only make one an hour is fine, but I should be able to make reservations for that all the way through. And if you do that, then you can ensure you’ve got enough people running the rinds, you’ve got maintenance on site in case you don’t have, uh, uh, in case you have breakdowns on the rides. If you do have break downs on the rides, you know who you have to notify when you have to notify them through the app. Like the, it shouldn’t have to be like planning them
Speaker 5:
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military operation. The makes it so that it’s become that way. It’s definitely become that way. But the other thing too is, you know, for people that are waiting online for that many hours, that’s that many hours less that they could, you know, be spending money on food or snacks or things because you’re in a line, you can’t do anything. Now, um, what was it, uh, rock and roller coaster. They were kind of, besides when they did, um, Dumbo with the, the little wait time, they were actually the first ride where they kind of did that same thing where they gave you like a reservation time. It wasn’t a fast pass. It was instead of you waiting online for so many hours throughout queue, they gave you a thing and they actually modified that whole area. So there’s a DJ playing music, there’s a couple of food vendors so that, yeah, you could actually do something so that you get online maybe 40 minutes before your ride or a half hour.
Speaker 5:
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Right. You know, beforehand. That’s perfectly normal. So you, you let your lines get to a certain point after that you go to a reservation system. Right. And that would make total sense and I could totally see them doing that. You know, you know, it blows my mind because Disney from a logistical standpoint are brilliant in almost every other respect. Yeah. For handling lines in their parks and their lines in our parks are notoriously long. Right. Right. And all the rides and in gift shops too, which are just, yeah. Well that’s just Disney for you. So, all right. That’s all I’m going to Bash Disney today. Right. Okay. Well, no baby. No, no more. Okay. All right. So the next one is a follow up to a story we talked about a couple of weeks ago. Um, about, um, a four year old boy who had passed away and his father had wanted to put Spiderman on his headstone and Disney basically denied it saying it was actually, you know, a rule that had been passed down from Walt Disney himself where he said, you know, the likeness of any character, you know, wouldn’t be allowed.
Speaker 5:
10:38
Um, so what actually happened was the father made a temporary plastic headstone with Spiderman on it and had it up in the cemetery and the cemetery, um, found out about it and actually had him remove it because again, it was against the cemetery’s rules as well as the issue with, with Disney. Um, as, as well. Um, so the father had said we had put up a temporary grave last week. I loved it and I’m sure my son did too. But since the temporary stones still went against both Disney and the cemetery’s usage rights and policies, Lloyd said that the temporary stone was short lived. Um, the council told us to take it down as soon as they found out. They told us we couldn’t have it. Um, so he, you know, went on to say that it’s obviously been a very stressful time because of, you know, the loss of his son.
Speaker 5:
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Um, and that it was just something that he did to Kinda make himself, you know, deal through, through this pain. But the interesting thing is that a US copyright lawyer has since reached out to the family offering to take Disney on pro bono in an attempt to get Ali’s gravestone approved. Lloyd said, my brother got a letter, um, through um, uh, from a lawyer and it seems that he’s taken on Disney before and he’s one, he goes, I don’t know exactly how it works, but it’s nice that there are support. Um, so since the news broke, um, of Disney denying the family, the request to use the image on the gravestone more than 140,000 people have signed a petition asking Disney to reconsider. And obviously Disney has not responded to them
Speaker 4:
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petition yet. And you know, you already know how I feel about this. I think Disney is, is doing a disservice to their fans, to their brand, to their company and to the memory of this little boy. Now with that said, having seen what that temporary headstone look like, I think there’s a better way to have gone about this than to do something as blatant as that. I think something could be done that’s more tasteful with like the Spiderman symbolism,
Speaker 5:
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right? Or just like the Spiderman logo or something small and tastes
Speaker 4:
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fine and tasteful. And I think if you went about it that way, you might have an argument at that point in time that you could take out petition to Disney. I think. I think the problem is they kind of forced the issue now and you know, you’re not going to to strong arm Disney, you’re just not going to write and you can try. She goes to this lawyer for taking it on pro bono, but I don’t think they have any ground to stand on here.
Speaker 5:
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Right. And the thing is, you know, there, if you, you know, do a search online, you can find exotic and weird headstones that people have had made for themselves or for family members, you know, or big giant. You know, I think there was one where it was like they had their Cadillac, you know, made into a headstone, all these obscure things and you know, and there have been not cartoon characters, but you know, like teddy bears and cats and, and things like that. And honestly I could totally see how unfortunate it is. You know, you can get almost any product with some sort of Disney characters slapped on it. And if you do, you’re usually paying a premium for it. You know, like
Speaker 4:
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you don’t even have to go that route here. You could do a stylized version of the Spiderman Syndrome, which, you know, yeah, granted Disney owns the Spiderman symbol, but if you stylize it and you just make it look like a spider, you accomplish your goals.
Speaker 5:
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See that if you kind of remodify, you know, take part, you know, to take some of the artwork and change it. Like I had a bracelet made and I had quote Unquote Mickey ears put on it. And of course it’s not,
Speaker 4:
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you know, Disney sanctioned or, or whatever. And it’s their modified version of mausers. So that’s how they can get away with it. So I’m sure, again, something like that, I think they kind of did themselves a disservice with this one here with the amount of publicity they got. But again, you know, Disney is being completely unreasonable on this. Disney should be coming back with options on what they can do, right. And there’s absolutely no reason why you can’t put a spider on a stay on a tombstone. Disney doesn’t own the copyright on all pictures of spiders, right. So it’s easy to get around that. Right. You know, they need to be a little bit more creative and a little bit less brazen, I think, in order to accomplish what they’re looking to do. Yeah. So, all right. I’m not going to Bash Disney too much on that one though. Okay. I bashed him enough already on that. We’re going to have to rename this segment, the Disney disaster, not the Disney detective. This is need attack detective with bashing options. So we have one more story.
Speaker 5:
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Sad Disney story. Um, so last Friday, the voice of Minnie Mouse, uh, recy Taylor passed away. Um, and the article that I actually found was, was actually more of a, a romantic tale. It was a titled, she was the Voice of minivan mouse. He was the voice of Mickey Mouse and that’s how their romance began. Um, so the Voice of Mickey and Minnie for years, um, or I should say the Voice of Mickey Mouse, uh, up until recently had been voiced by, um, Wayne all wine. Um, and he had actually been doing the voice for about 10 years or so before, uh, recy Taylor actually got hired to do the voice. Um, she actually won the role in 1986 beating out more than 150 other actors for the role. And the following year she was on the voiceover stage, uh, for a Disney special call, totally mini when she got to meet Wayne Allwine, um, who had inherited the role of making mass, like I said, about a decade earlier.
Speaker 5:
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And he was actually only the third person, including Walt Disney to actually do the voice of Mickey. Um, so they started working together and that’s when sparks kind of flew. Um, they were Mickey and Minnie, um, quoted from bill farmer who was newly cast as goofy at the time. He said it was typecasting Taylor, who was then in her mid forties, uh, was remembered by friends and acquaintance as a sweet person with a great sense of humor. She was outgoing and warm and always a joy to work with and always, uh, taking joy in what she worked on. Um, and it goes on to talk about how they, you know, at the time when they started working as, and Minnie, they were actually both married to other people. Um, and, uh, kind of both in, in bad marriages. Uh, and over the years they both actually got divorced from their respective spouses and then not long later actually broke up through marriage, but then they fell in love and they got married.
Speaker 5:
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Um, they actually got married in 1991, uh, in Hawaii. And they, they tried to keep their, their personal life private, um, because they didn’t want their marriage to kind of cloud over Mickey and Minnie because Mickey and Minnie never officially got married. Um, so there was, well, no, they never lived in sin because they had their own house. Mickey and Minnie never lived together. No, they never lived together. Don’t you remember two before? Yeah. I know. Whatever. I just assume I turn up there with all Disney stars. Right. So once radio host Paul Harvey had actually asked him to share romantic story about themselves and they actually refused saying that it, it would have drawn the spotlight away from their characters. And that was really the main focus of, that’s cool. That they’re that dedicated. Yeah. Yeah. Um, you know, so they always, you know, enjoyed being together, uh, in some joint interviews.
Speaker 5:
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Um, all wine who was actually also an Emmy award winning sound and sound effects editor, uh, would serenade Taylor in character. So you’d be singing in, you know, making mass his voice, and he’d always bring a youth Ukulele and kind of play a cute little song saying how much, you know, he loved her, you know, in Mickey’s voice to, to Mitie. Um, so it was just, you know, very sweet. Um, you know, that they had, you know, such a, a beautiful love story brought about by, you know, Mickey and Minnie. Um, unfortunately, uh, he passed away in May of 2009, um, and it was actually a year after they were both inducted, um, as Disney legends, and he had voiced Mickey’s, uh, Mickey Mouse for 32 years at that point. Wow. Um, so after Wayne passed away, she obviously, you know, continued to talk about him and you know, was always in, you know, her heart.
Speaker 5:
20:15
Um, and she actually had met Walt Disney years ago, uh, at the Anaheim Park as a child. She actually voiced, besides Minnie mouse, she had actually voiced, uh, other characters like strawberry shortcake, baby Gonzo from muppet babies, um, the nephews from the original ducktails. Um, but then once she voiced mini, that was really who, you know, who she was and he, yeah, she became, um, you know, uh, the, the family friend said that when they were together, they will, like, they were like Laurel and hardy. They were just meant to be together as a team and as a lifelong team. If you looked in Webster’s and saw the word marriage, you would see a picture of Wayne and recy. Uh, they were just so in love and so wonderful together and that came through in their performance and gave it a little something extra. Oh, that’s cute. Yeah. So that was sweet. Oh, that’s a shame. That’s all we have Disney detective. That is it for Disney detectives.
Speaker 6:
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Uh,
Speaker 5:
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so moving right on to our entertainment news this week. Uh, we have pink in the news here. Tell us about that one. So there was a story that came out that said, uh, that talked about pink, the musical performer. Uh, she dyed her daughter’s hair in support of Jessica Simpson, who had been mom shamed because she colored her daughter’s hair. So what had happened was Jessica Simpson dyed her daughter’s hair and she just died. The tips, um, her daughter is seven, um, died, the tips purple and posted it on Instagram and had all of these people go after her saying, oh my God, what a horrible person you are. She’s too young to have her hair dyed, you know, all these different things. Moms shaming. So Pink said, you know what, I’m going to dye my daughter’s hair in, you know, in support and solidarity. Um, so the pop star, uh, who’s 39 shared a photo on Thursday of her daughter Willow, who is eight, getting her hair dyed blue after she had heard about the backlash that Jessica Simpson received for letting her daughter Maxi die the ends of her hair.
Speaker 5:
22:41
Uh, she said, I heard a so pink said, I heard people were bummed on Jessica Simpson for letting her seven year old get hair color pink row in her Instagram caption, which comes just two days after Simpsons has posted her pictures. So we thought we’d share what we did yesterday. Uh, and in the photo you see pink who is actually doing the dye job herself. Um, and you know, said that she didn’t die. Right. It is kind of funny. And she s and you know, with the Hashtag of blue hair, don’t care. Get your own kids.
Speaker 5:
23:20
I’m the singer songwriter actually also disabled the comments on her posts. So this way trolls couldn’t, you know, get their way and express any negative views about her parenting. She also included the Hashtag oh look, Ma, no comments. But it was funny. Um, so Simpson had shared a maxis new hairdo on Instagram on Tuesday, and it was actually inspired by one of the characters from descendants. Um, and critics, you know, again, oh, you’re ruined her hair, she’s too young. Why start ruining it so long? Dah, Dah, Dah, Dah, Dah, Dah, Dah. Again, on and on. Um, but one of the nice things was there were a couple of hairstylists, famous hairstylist who actually responded and said how wonderful. It looked, great job. And even the official descendants Instagram account weighed in saying, looking good with hearts, you know, so it was nice that, that they came, they came back. Um, so this just kinda hit home because as you know, not only do I put funky colors in my hair, but I dye our daughter’s hair as well. And we started out with just doing little tips. And I don’t know, it’s probably been a few years now that, that we’ve done it. And you know,
Speaker 4:
24:43
well, and the, the initial dying, uh, techniques that you used were not using any kind of real . You’re using Koolaid Koolaid
Speaker 5:
24:53
and you know, and again, we were only doing the tips. I W you know, I wasn’t doing anything drastic. And if you look at the, the picture, you know, with, you know, of Jessica Simpson’s daughter, she only did the tips also. It wasn’t like she put the chemicals on the scalp or right or anything. And now they have so many different hair colors out there that are safe, that are in these harsh, you know, chemical treatments.
Speaker 4:
25:19
Well, you know what blows my mind is she’s a horrible person for dying her kids here. But you can have the president of United States insult an entire city of people by calling them animals and subhuman and somehow that’s okay. That’s okay. So I think people really need to get their priorities straight air.
Speaker 5:
25:38
Yeah. So this was, you know, kind of like I said as a, as a mother who dyes her daughter’s hair and you know, our daughter even asked, hey mom, when are you going to dye my hair again? Cause her hair still is pink from the last time I dyed it. It’s just faded. And it’s like, all right, school’s getting ready to start up. You want some fresh color in your hair? Who am I? Who am I to say no when I have an appointment tomorrow to go color my hair? So what are you going to call her? My hair. When you grow some I can do your beard. We could do little bits of like pink in your beard can just like draw on my scout and not in a sharpie or anything that would look funny. So yeah. So that was, you know, more power to the moms. Dire, dire kids hair.
Speaker 4:
26:27
Let your kids express themselves. Exactly. Exactly. You can’t, are you going to do you know, make them, make them grow and let them express their creativity and let them be who they want to be. Who the hell cares
Speaker 5:
26:44
what these, these trolls on the Internet. Think about what you’re willing, you know, you can’t let that stop you from doing what you want to do. So what else do we got? So our last story of the day is actually from another musician, Katie Perry. Um, and others have to pay nearly two point $8 million from the dark horse lawsuit. Uh, so Katy Perry and her production partners will have to pay a copyright infringement case over her 2013 song dark horse. And what was funny was I actually heard on the radio, cause they played like a clip of both songs and like, I kinda heard it but I really didn’t. It didn’t, you know, really sound that much similar. But obviously a federal jury in Los Angeles on Thursday decided that the music that the group must pay nearly 2.8 million in damages to flame, whose real name is Marcus gray because they determined parts of dark horse closely resembled joyful noise, which was a Christian rap Song of grace from 2008.
Speaker 5:
27:53
Uh, the jury determined that 22.5% of the profits from dark horse were owed to joyful noise. Um, so basically it’s kinda spread out among what everybody has to pay. So Katie Perry, she’s going to have to pay $550,000. Her Record Label Capitol records is going to have to pay 1.3 than the five collaborators on the song were also ordered to pay. So Max Martin, uh, who owes 250, 3000. Then you have doctor Luke who has to pay 61,000, but then his company owes $198,000. So bean counter comes up with the percentages. I don’t know, uh, maybe how much each person got. I Dunno. It was just kind of like kind of, you know, how much each portion of contributed. Yeah. I don’t know. So, uh, Perry paying by like the note or by the word or what, how long do you, well, you know, so Katy Perry actually had made almost 2.5 million in profits and maybe that has something to do with it just from that song.
Speaker 5:
29:01
Just from that song. The Co, according to court filings of the case, the nine person jury reached a unanimous decision in the case on Monday. Uh, her attorney said that the pop star would actually try and appeal. Um, Perry’s attorney argued in part that the portion in question, uh, was too high, uh, was too common and too brief to be protected by copyright. A rolling stone actually reported flame. Uh, the artist argued that dark horse infringed on his copyright by using an underlining beat from his song without permission. Um, and I go back to the vanilla ice days.
Speaker 5:
29:43
Well, and just your pure rip off. Well, and that’s the thing is that this case now joins other harp, you know, high high profile copyright battles. Um, the far the family of Marvin Gay who died in 1984 when after Robyn think, uh, Robin Thicke, sorry. Along with for Al Williams off of, um, the 2013 song, blurred lines because they were saying part of that and barely, they didn’t blur the lines. He bludgeoned and blurred as much. And that went back and forth for a couple of years and it was actually last year after a five year battle that Marvin Gaye’s family actually won $5 million
Speaker 4:
30:24
from that. So am I the only one that finds it ironic that Katy Perry is tied up with a good Christian? Yeah.
Speaker 5:
30:33
That just seems strange to me. Yeah. And, and, and that’s the thing is, you know, if she is riding with other people who’s to say, you know, okay, if they happened to hear a song that, oh, you know what, we can use that beat. You know, maybe it wasn’t even her that that came in and like, and that’s the thing. Yeah.
Speaker 4:
30:52
Right. Is it like, did I steal your beat or did you inspire me to write something similar? That was almost as much as when John Fogarty was in court, being sued for copyright infringement by the other members of CCR for a song he himself wrote. Right. And he explained that it wasn’t the same song. It was, it was a different guitar riff. He took his guitar out on the stand, Stan played the two different guitar risks to show the difference and the judge ruled in his favor. So it’s like, all right, I guess if you can sue me for my own work, then I’ll infringing my own words. Right then let me just, you can sue for anything these days. It’s ridiculous. It really is. Yeah. So, all right. So that’s all we have for entertainment news. Um, and we’ll come back with our insightful picks of the week.
Speaker 6:
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Speaker 4:
31:49
can I turn it over to you? My dear.
Speaker 5:
31:51
So it was kind of funny cause I had a hard time thinking of what my insightful Piccolo was going to be and then all of a sudden it dawned on me, Oh, this is what it should be.
Speaker 4:
32:01
Even though you knew weeks ago, this was the one you were running.
Speaker 5:
32:04
Right? And I just totally like blanked out. And so here we are. So, um, it is a horror show. Cole called no Saratu and it’s actually spelled n o s for a two. So it’s actually a license plate that’s part of the show, so that’s fine creative. Anyway. Um, so the first episode aired on June 2nd of this year. It was on AMC and there were 10 episodes in the season. It’s actually based on a book by Joe Hill. I’m of the same name. So Joe Hill story creates a new take on the vampire tale. The world is introduced to Vick McQueen, who is played by Ashley Cummings and the Evil Charlie Manx, who is played by Zachary quinto. And Vick has a gift where she can find things. So she rides on her motorcycle, she pictures an item and then crosses the shorter way bridge. And then all of a sudden she’s kind of teleported to where this item would be.
Speaker 5:
33:12
Um, as she begins to discover her power, she runs into this evil man, noon, Charlie Mancs, who also has an evil power. Manx actually feeds off of the energy of children as he locks them in his evil black 1938 Rolls Royce wraith. And then after Manx drang drains the energy from the children. He drives them to Christmas land, which is a twisted place in his mind where Christmas is every day. I’m so Vic, we’ll do whatever it takes to fight Manx and try and save children before she loses everything. Um, so again, kind of different vampire thing because you know, he’s using the energy, you know, he kind of starts out as an old man and the car and, and himself have this interaction. So like when the car is being taken care of, or when the car gets this special fluid, uh, uh, fuel, he all of a sudden becomes a younger version of himself. But yet, if the car gets destroyed or hurt in any way, he becomes this old decrepit,
Speaker 4:
34:22
much different take on energy vampires and the things we do in the shadows.
Speaker 5:
34:26
Absolutely. Much, much different. Um, and actually what was really cool was it was announced at comic con that it will be returning for a second season. So no release date has been announced, but it will continue the story from his book. Um, so I look forward to, to seeing, uh, the second season and if it sounds like something you might be interested in, it’s only 10 episodes. Um, so it’s 11 hours total cause the um, season finale was actually a two hour part. So just one book it’s based on, right. There isn’t a series. You know what, I’m not sure. I didn’t, I didn’t look to say cause it’ll be kind of interesting because it did say that it was still gonna follow the book. So I don’t know if this was, you know, only part of it or if there is, you know, yeah. Series. I know
Speaker 4:
35:17
a lot of these book inspired series tend to be book series. Right? Um, you know, game of Thrones, the experience, stuff like that. And the books themselves tend to give you the out. If the series gets canceled right at the end of each season there, there tends to be a, a finale type thing there. So, uh, I, I was to know whether or not it had more than one book in the series to get an indication of how far that’s the TV series is, is going to go.
Speaker 5:
35:44
Yeah. As far as I know, it is just one, one book it looks like.
Speaker 4:
35:49
Interesting. Cool. So AMC is bringing a literature to the TVs again for horror. Yup. Awesome. All right, good pick. Thank you.
Speaker 6:
36:03
Uh,
Speaker 4:
36:06
so my pick this week is not really a documentary. Okay. You live, but don’t laugh. Okay.
Speaker 5:
36:13
Well I only laugh because I walked in on you watching it today and when, what? And then you show. All right, so before even here, let me take a step back.
Speaker 4:
36:23
Okay. So years ago, ESPN used to play the strongest man competitions and they would travel around the world and you would have these power lifters who would compete in these various games and they would do different things that were regional lines. You’d be telling, uh, tractor trailers or you’d be lifting stones or you know, whatever it is. And they would compete in this, in a, in a tournament environment and you’d work towards the championship and every year they would, they would crown of world’s strongest man. So this is kind of a takeoff on that. So this is the strongest man in history and it’s on the history channel and premiered a few weeks back. Uh, it’s on Wednesdays at 10 eastern. I’m on the history channel and I’ll just read the intro here and then I’ll expound. Uh, the legendary feats of strong man have been celebrated throughout time, but just how true are these fabled acts after years of competing as rivals, the four strongest men in the world are teaming up to find out Eddie Hall, Brian Shawl, Nick Best, and Robert Robert Oberst travel the world, investigating strong man legends and taking on epic feats of strength in a quest to prove who really is the strongest man in history.
Speaker 4:
37:47
In each episode, the four strong men take on three strength challenges from history and try to beat the legend, end each other. They separate fact from fiction, replicating legendary lifts to determine what the actually weed while competing to see who among them is the strongest. So the interesting thing about this is it’s not just a bunch of muscle bound guys trying to compete against each other. See you as the most testosterone there is that in the show.
Speaker 5:
38:17
Right? Right. I was going to say,
Speaker 4:
38:19
but what they do is each show is themed and what they do in these teams is they go back and they look at sometimes mythical, really feats of strength. Okay. Uh, one happened to be vikings. It was all viking themed, so they would do things legendary Viking warriors did. One was, you know, uh, an attempt to lift this, uh, massive log that was in the legend. It was a mass of a ship that was lifted. And you know, basically he’s putting this thing on your shoulders at 1400, 1500 pounds or whatever that is. It’s just superhuman feats. So there’s question of whether or not they actually happen historically or could happen historically. So you learn a little bit of history about this stuff. Um, and you learn a little bit of contemporary information too. Like the one episode was all about the Highland games. Now we know the Highland games are real.
Speaker 4:
39:14
They happen every year. World Records are set, there are legitimate feats of strength at these heiling games. So in going to the Highland games, they pick a legendary competitor from the 18 hundreds that they’re going to perform his feats and do it. And there are documented world records in fact that the one, uh, carrying of these particular stones across the bridge, it was done by so few people. It’s still recorded in this book. And if you even lift the stones because they’ve got metallic handles on them and I don’t know what the weight was off the top of my head, but just the act of lifting and not even moving, then it’s so difficult that you can get your name in the record book for the Lao. And what’s fascinating is in watching this, these guys are breaking these world records that have stood for 30 40, 50, 60 years and nobody else has been able to do these things cause it stuffed the day.
Speaker 4:
40:18
Don’t normally do. And they’re in their training. Okay. The episode that I watched, uh, when you popped down, there was a whole episodes, uh, on, on an English strongman competitor and they recreated a couple of his lifts. One was one of the things that he used to do, he was, you know, around in the 1700, he owned his own pub and to entertain people in his pub, he would take the pewter dishes that they serve the food on and he’d roll them up like a newspaper. Okay. Um, so they tried that and it was, it was child’s play for these guys. They literally rolled these things up like they were, they were paper. Oh Wow. So they upped the ante a little bit and gave them frying pan, like heat cured, hardened fry and pain. And they had the competition was who could roll at the tightest and all four of them were able to take these frying pans and literally roll them up like Burritos.
Speaker 4:
41:21
Um, which is just insane that you’d be able to do it. Right. And the last thing that they did was there was a keg lift. So there was an apparatus and that was what I saw was what you saw. There was an apparatus that originally a held just kegs of beer or whiskey or whatever, and it was like 1,432 pounds I think was what the record was. Well, two of these guys wind up getting into this little personal competition. The final lift was well over 2000 pounds that these guys were able to live and, and it looked easy to have. So the show itself as cool because it, it kind of springboards on the straw man competitions and gives you a historical account of what it meant to be a strong man through history. You get to see some of these exotic locations because they go on location for each of them.
Speaker 4:
42:15
Um, and sometimes it’s just comical lake for the England one, you know, you see these guys get on an airplane and then they get on a train and then they frame in the back of a, of a London cab. You know, just seeing how guys this size, half to negotiate real life things, you know, like I’m a big guy and I have issues getting on planes and stuff like that. I’m nothing compared to these guys. So it gives me a whole new appreciation for the fact that, you know, I fit and places a lot better than these guys. But it also reminded me of what it was like when I went over to England for business and couldn’t fit through doors cause they weren’t wide enough for me to get my shoulders through. So, but strongest man in History Wednesdays at 10 on the history channel and that’s all I had.
Speaker 4:
43:03
Did we have afterthoughts? Nope. No afterthoughts today. So I think that’s all we had today. Um, I guess we’ll be back next week. Did you want to throw anything out there but thing I did want to mention, uh, it’ll show up, should show up in our show notes and it shows up in the credits. We’ve moved over to a bitly for our source links now. So the links themselves are a little bit shorter, a little bit more manageable now. So feel free to use those. If you want to check out any of the sources from today’s, um, articles, and that’s it. We’ll see you next week. Have a good one. Take care.

Show Notes

Introduction

• Insights Into Entertainment Episode 26: “Clueless in Disney”
• My radiant and wonderful co-host Michelle Whalen

Disney Detective

• Childless Millennials Aren’t the Walt Disney World Problem. Clueless Parents Are.
• https://www.fatherly.com/love-money/childless-millennials-at-walt-disney-world-tourists-vs-parents/?fbclid=IwAR1b_21KwTT_T40rf_wDPGrlUxzxb0Ss78wqEiyfULsmFZiWj3SelK0v8jY
• http://bit.ly/IIE26-a
  • Back in September a very frustrated mother and Disney World patron found notoriety after an f-bomb filled rant about “IMMATURE millennials” ruining it for everyone at the happiest place on earth. The unnamed mom of a three-year-old named Aiden dropped unholy fire on childless women in “slutty shorts” who apparently bought up all the mouse-shaped pretzels, made lines too long, and exacerbated the plight of the park-going parents with cranky kids. But a close look at the rant shows that the mom in question is probably pointing the finger in the wrong direction. It appears her bad Disney times have less to do with Millennials and more to do with her own crappy planning. She clearly didn’t get the memo: A good time with kids at Disney must be planned like a military offensive — precise, strategic, and uncompromising.
  • There are some clues to the mad-moms lack of forethought. For one, she laments how Millennials will never know the exhaustion of chasing a three-year-old around the park. Also, she whines about having said three-year-old in line for three hours while the kid gets cranky and suggests mothers with kids should be able to skip all lines. All of this suggests she made the classic Disney World parenting mistake in assuming she could just show up whenever and have a blast. 
  • The article goes on to talk about how much planning is really needed to plan a Disney Trip 
  • Nevertheless, my family and I had a blast too — because of our careful and meticulous planning. The Millennials didn’t get in our way and we didn’t get in theirs. 
  • We also saw parents who were miserable. They were the ones stuck in the three-hour line, waiting for a 3-minute Seven Dwarfs Mine Car Ride, their children hanging from them like exhausted, heat-stricken monkeys. We saw the look of desperation in their eyes as we walked by in the Fast Pass line, trying not to meet their agonized gaze. You could see them penning venomous social media rants in their head. 
  • The fact is that Disney World can either be the happiest place on earth or hell on earth. And the difference between the two has nothing to do with the kind of people attending. It has everything to do with planning, time management, and execution. If you have a bad time a Disney World there is really only one person to blame: yourself.

• Temporary Spider-Man gravestone removed from cemetery
• https://insidethemagic.net/2019/07/spider-man-grave-stone-removed/?fbclid=IwAR3_befZAqAkxiWDcLgvO5M5Gkv5o9AiD_c33MCjzruBVycLvB_24nL0ZlA
• http://bit.ly/IIE26-B
  • A grieving family has been told to remove a temporary headstone including an image of Spider-Man from a little boy’s grave after creating the tombstone against the wishes of both the cemetery and Disney.
  • Ollie Jones, 4, died in December after battling leukodystrophy, a rare genetic disease. The boy was buried at Maidstone Cemetery, which is where the boy’s father, Lloyd, wanted to mark his grave with a specially designed “Spider-Man” headstone. Spider-Man was the boy’s favorite character of all time and the family even made a point to make his funeral themed after the web-slinging character in his honor. Although, Maidstone Borough Council halted the plans as they said the family needed permission from Marvel. In compliance with the cemetery, the family reached out to Disney, who also rejected their proposal.
  • While considering their options for the late boy’s official gravestone, the family decided to put up a temporary headstone, which featured the Marvel Comics character. Ollie’s dad Lloyd said: “We put up a temporary plastic grave last week. I loved it and I’m sure Ollie does too.
  • But since the temporary stone still went against both Disney and the cemetery’s usage rights and policies, Lloyd says the temporary stone’s life was short-lived. “The council told us to take it down as soon as they found out. They told us we couldn’t have it,” said Lloyd.
  • Lloyd went on to share that he has been experiencing a lot of stress since the loss of his son. He shared: “I’m trying to take it a bit easier, I threw myself into work after Ollie died, now I think I need to slow down a bit.”
  • A US copyright lawyer has since reached out to the family offering to take Disney on, pro-bono, in an attempt to get Ollie’s gravestone approved. Lloyd said: “My brother got a letter through from a lawyer. It says he has taken on Disney before and won. I don’t know exactly how it all works, but it’s nice there’s all this support.”
  • Since the news first broke of Disney denying the family’s request to use Spider-Man’s image on the gravestone, more than 140,000 people have signed a petition asking Disney to reconsider. Disney has not responded to the petition.
• She was the voice of Minnie Mouse. He was the voice of Mickey Mouse. That’s how their romance began.
• https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/07/30/she-was-voice-minnie-mouse-he-was-voice-mickey-mouse-thats-how-their-romance-began/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.574f8d90059d
• http://bit.ly/iie26-c
  • The romance between Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse was more than just an act. For two of their real-life voice actors, it was magic, and soon love, at first sound bite.
  • Russi Taylor, who died Friday in Glendale, Calif., won the role of Minnie Mouse in 1986, beating out more than 150 other actors with her high, pitch-perfect sound. 
  • The next year, she was on the voice-over stage for the Disney special “Totally Minnie” when she met Wayne Allwine, who had inherited the role of Mickey about a decade earlier — only the third person, including creator Walt Disney, to officially inhabit the role.
  • As soon as Taylor and Allwine began working together, they could make theatrical sparks fly.
  • “They were Mickey and Minnie,” Bill Farmer, then newly cast as the voice of Goofy, told The Washington Post on Monday. “It was typecasting.”
  • Taylor, who was then in her mid-40s, is remembered by friends and acquaintances as a sweet person with a great sense of humor. “She was outgoing and warm and always a joy to work with — always taking joy in her work,” says “Simpsons” director-producer David Silverman. Taylor voiced the recurring character Martin Prince on “The Simpsons” and in “The Simpsons Movie.”
  • When they began working together, voicing two of the most famous animated characters on the planet, they were leading very separate private lives.
  • “They were both in bad marriages when I started doing the voice [of Goofy] back in 1987,” Farmer says. “But over a couple of years, they just kind of became Mickey and Minnie. They got divorced from their respective spouses and then fell in love.
  • “Everyone saw it coming,” he says, referring to the Disney voice-acting “family.” “Just watching them work together, I could see their relationship develop into something deeper than just a working relationship.”
  • “They kind of built up a rapport with each other in a real fun, sweet way” in sessions, says Rick Dempsey, head of Disney character voices, adding: “When Russi would get to laughing at Wayne, you couldn’t stop her. She would lay on the floor [laughing so hard] because Wayne was such a fun-loving guy.”
  • “I got a front-row seat,” he says, “to watch the two of them just fall in love.”
  • Taylor and Allwine were married in 1991 in Hawaii.
  • The couple, though, kept their personal romance private. They did not want their marriage to color how Disney fans viewed Mickey and Minnie, who have never officially married. Once, radio host Paul Harvey asked them to share their romantic story with his “The Rest of the Story” listeners, Farmer recounts. They refused. That would have drawn the spotlight away from their characters.
  • Yet Taylor and Allwine loved playing out their chemistry through Mickey and Minnie as public performance.
  • In some joint interviews, Allwine, who was also an Emmy Award-winning sound and sound-effects editor, would serenade Taylor in character. “Wayne would bring a little ukulele to riff and do little songs, and quite often, he would sing a little love song to Minnie, as Mickey,” says Farmer, who was inducted as an official “Disney Legend” a decade ago. “You knew it was Wayne talking to Russi.”
  • Taylor and Allwine shared their generous spirit with the world for nearly two decades, until he died in May 2009 — the year after they were inducted together as Disney Legends. He had voiced Mickey for 32 years.
  • At that time, Roy E. Disney, who was director emeritus and consultant to the Walt Disney Co., called Allwine and Russi “wonderful friends” who “gave generously of themselves for many charitable causes, especially when it came to working with children.”
  • “After Wayne passed away, she would constantly talk about him,” Dempsey says of Taylor. “He was in her heart till the day she died.”
  • Taylor, who met Walt Disney at the Anaheim park as a child, voiced many characters during her long career, including Strawberry Shortcake, Baby Gonzo for “Muppet Babies” and the nephews for “DuckTales.” Yet she once said that Minnie “actually enhances who I am — she really does. In a sense Minnie makes me better than I was before ’cause there’s a lot to live up to,” according to the site D23.
  • “When they were together, like Laurel and Hardy, they were just meant to be together as a team — and as a lifelong team,” Farmer said. “If you looked in Webster’s and saw the word ‘marriage,’ it should have a picture of Wayne and Russi.
  • “They were just so in love and so wonderful together. I think that love came through in their performances, and gave it a little something extra.”   

• Entertainment News
  • Pink Dyes Daughter’s Hair in Support of Jessica Simpson Who Was Mom-Shamed for Coloring Kid’s Locks
  • https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/pink-dyes-daughters-hair-in-support-of-jessica-simpson-who-was-mom-shamed-for-coloring-kids-locks/ar-AAFdR5R
  • http://bit.ly/iie26-d
    • Pink has one thing to say to mom shamers who think kids shouldn’t dye their hair: So what?
    • The pop star, 39, shared a photo Thursday of her daughter Willow Sage, 8, getting her hair dyed blue after she heard about backlash Jessica Simpson received for letting her daughter Maxwell “Maxi” Drew, 7, dye the ends of her hair purple.
    • “I heard people were bummed on Jessica Simpson for letting her seven-year-old get her hair colored,” Pink wrote in the Instagram caption, which comes two days after Simpson, 39, posted the photos of Maxi. “So we thought we’d share what we did yesterday.”
    • The photo shows Pink — who has been vocal in the past about what she calls the “parenting police” — completing the dye job herself, as well as a close up of her daughter’s new blue ‘do. The mother of two added several hashtags to the post, including “blue hair don’t care” and “get your own kids.”
    • The singer-songwriter disabled the comments on the post so trolls couldn’t get their way and express their negative views about her parenting. She also included the hashtag, “oh look ma no comments.”
    • Simpson shared Maxi’s new hairstyle on Instagram on Tuesday, a look that was inspired by Dove Cameron’s character, Mal, in the popular Descendants franchise.
    • Critics quickly swarmed the post, telling Simpson that she was “ruining” Maxi’s hair at too young an age.
    • “Why start ruining her hair so young,” one Instagrammer said in the comments.
    • Another added, “Don’t like it at all !!! Much better before the color. The new color makes her look older than her age.”
    • “Isn’t she too young to have her hair dyed?” said another.
    • But Simpson had several positive supporters, as well, including Jill Buck and Riawna Capri, both hairstylists at the Nine Zero One salon in Los Angeles where Simpson took Maxi for the hair job (Capri is responsible for World Cup champion Megan Rapinoe’s iconic pink pixie).
    • “She was a natural, in her natural habitat. I think we will be seeing her more than her momma,” Capri commented on Simpson’s post.
    • “Yes Max!!!! It turned out so good! 💞” added Buck.
    • The official Descendants’ Instagram account even weighed in with support, commenting: “Looking good! 💜💜💜.”

• Katy Perry and others have to pay nearly $2.8 million in ‘Dark Horse’ suit
• https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/02/entertainment/katy-perry-copyright-infringement-suit-trnd/index.html
• http://bit.ly/iie26-e
  • Katy Perry and her producing partners have to pay up in a copyright infringement case over her 2013 song “Dark Horse.”
  • A federal jury in Los Angeles on Thursday decided that the group must pay nearly $2.8 million in damages to Flame, whose real name is Marcus Gray, because they determined parts of “Dark Horse” closely resembled “Joyful Noise,” a Christian rap song of Gray’s from 2008.
  • The jury determined that 22.5% of the profits from “Dark Horse” were owed to “Joyful Noise.”
  • According to the verdict, Perry must pay just over $550,000. Her label, Capitol Records, has to pay nearly $1.3 million. Perry’s five collaborators on song were also ordered to pay, including producer Max Martin, who owes $253,000, and Dr. Luke, who was ordered to pay $61,000. Luke’s company, Kasz Money Inc., owes $189,000.
  • Perry, listed in the verdict as Kathryn Elizabeth Hudson, made almost $2.5 million in profits from the song, according to court filings in the case.
  • A nine person jury reached a unanimous decision in the case on Monday. Her attorney said the pop star would appeal the verdict.
  • Perry’s attorneys argued, in part, that the portion in question was too common and brief to be protected by copyright, Rolling Stone reported. Flame argued that “Dark Horse” infringed on his copyright by using an underlying beat from his song without permission, according to court filings.
  • “Dark Horse” held the No. 1 spot on Billboard’s Hot 100 chart for four weeks in 2014.
  • The case joins a growing list of high-profile copyright battles in the music industry in recent years. The family of Marvin Gaye, who died in 1984, went after Robin Thicke along with Pharrell Williams and rapper T.I., the collaborators on the smash-hit 2013 single “Blurred Lines.”
  • T.I was cleared from the suit, but Thicke and Williams were ordered in 2015 to pay Gaye’s estate more than $7 million on the grounds that their song infringed on Gaye’s 1977 hit. That judgment was reduced to $5.3 million and the pair appealed the verdict.
  • Last year the five-year court battle ended with Gaye’s family being awarded a final judgment of nearly $5 million.
• Insightful Picks
  • Michelle
    • NOS4A2
    • First episode date: June 2, 2019
    • Network: AMC
    • No. of episodes: 10 (list of episodes)
    • Joe Hill’s story creates a new take on the vampire tale. The world is introduced to Vic McQueen played by Ashleigh Cummings, and the evil Charlie Manx played sinisterly by  Zachary Quinto. Vis has a gift; she can find things. On her bike, she pictures the item and then crosses the Shorter Way Bridge, and she is then brought to wherever the item was left. As she begins to discover this power, she runs into an evil man named Charlie Manx who also has an evil power. Manx feeds off the energy of children as he locks them in his evil black 1938 Rolls-Royce Wraith. After Manx drains the children’s energy, he drives them to Chistmasland which is a twisted place in Manx’s mind where Christmas is every day. Vic will do whatever she can do to fight Manx and try to save the children before she loses everything.
    • It was announced at SDCC that NOS4A2 will return for a second season. No release date was announced but will continue the story from Joe Hill’s book. NOS4A2 is a great show and I look forward to seeing what the future holds for Vic McQueen and Charlie Manx.
  • Joe
    • The Strongest Man In History
    • Wednesdays at 10pm Eastern on the History Channel
    • The legendary feats of strongmen have been celebrated throughout time, but just how true are these fabled acts? After years of competing as rivals, the four strongest men in the world are teaming up to find out. Eddie Hall, Brian Shaw, Nick Best and Robert Oberst travel the world investigating strongman legends and taking on epic feats of strength in a quest to prove who really is THE Strongest Man in History.
    • In each episode, the four strongmen take on three strength challenges from history and try to beat the legend—and each other. They separate fact from fiction–replicating legendary lifts to determine what they actually weighed, while competing to see who among them is the strongest.
• https://www.facebook.com/InsightsIntoThingsPodcast/