Insights Into Teens: Episode 150 ”People Say the Strangest Things”

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The English language is a funny thing.  While words and phrases can have different meanings in different cultures, there are other things that might affect the meaning or even the relevance of a word or phrase. 

Sometimes the things that once had meaning in the past are no longer relevant because of changes in society. This can sometimes conjure misconceptions and misunderstandings. Other times a phrase changes so much that the true meaning of it is lost. 

While still other phrases are often misheard, misunderstood or just murder the English language kind of like when you hear the wrong lyrics of a song (which may well become a podcast in the future for us.) 

On today’s episode of Insights Into Teens we’re going to take a look at a few of the phrases that stand out to us.  We’ll shed some light on them, alleviate some misconceptions and maybe even entertain you along the way.

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[INTRO THEME]

  • [INTRODUCTIONS] 
    • Insights Into Teens: Episode 150 “People Say the Strangest Things”
    • My creative and ever curious co-host Madison Whalen
    • Summary
      • The English language is a funny thing. 
        • While words and phrases can have different meanings in different cultures, there are other things that might affect the meaning or even the relevance of a word or phrase. 
        • Sometimes the things that once had meaning in the past are no longer relevant because of changes in society. 
      • This can sometimes conjure misconceptions and misunderstandings. 
        • Other times a phrase changes so much that the true meaning of it is lost. 
        • While still other phrases are often misheard, misunderstood or just murder the English language kind of like when you hear the wrong lyrics of a song (which may well become a podcast in the future for us.) 
      • On today’s episode of Insights Into Teens we’re going to take a look at a few of the phrases that stand out to us. 
        • We’ll shed some light on them, alleviate some misconceptions and maybe even entertain you along the way.
  • [SHOW PLUGS]
    • But first I’d like to invite the listening and viewing audience to subscribe to the podcast. 
      • You can find audio versions listed under Insights Into Teens, you can also find video and audio versions listed under Insights Into Things.
    • I’d also like to invite you to give us your feedback on what we’re talking about or give us your suggestions for show topics. 

[TRANSITION]

[SEGMENT 1]

Sayings that just aren’t true…anymore

There are sayings in our society that are repeated often enough that they’re almost written in our memories. They often reflect how society behaved at one point in time, but through changes in society and acceptable behavior they’ve largely lost their meaning. While they may not be relevant to today’s society, they do serve to give us a glimpse as to how things were in the not too distant past. In fact, I remember many of these being the normal acceptable society norms when I was a kid.  Here are a few

Then: Snitching Is Wrong.

Now: 

  • Snitching, or at least telling an adult about something that other students are going through because they won’t say anything, can help kids stay out of trouble and can also prevent acts of bullying and abuse a kid is facing who’s too scared to speak out. 
  • There are more benefits of “snitching” now the drawbacks.

Then: If a boy/girl is mean to a girl, it’s because he likes her.

Now: 

  • This just isn’t true. 
  • If a person likes you, they wouldn’t be actively hurting you. 
  • It also glorifies the act of bullying by painting it as an “act of love” while bullying can severely damage someone’s self-esteem and can lead to mental health issues like depression, and can cause these issues to escalate even further.

Then: It is rude to ask people about their disability.

Now: 

  • Knowledge is power. 
  • While some people might not like people bringing up there “disability,” it can be a good learning opportunity for kids who don’t have a disability to know how it can affect the life of a person that does, and it is a great opportunity for them to learn that they can still live a normal life like they can.

Then: You need to find love in order to settle down and be happy.

Now: 

  • That’s not really the case. 
  • There are people who never get married or date that live perfectly content lives single. 
  • They could be living on their own, with friends and roommates, or with pets and have a well-paying job and a good home as well as hobbies that they enjoy, along with connections that aren’t romantic.

Then: The only purpose in school is to get into a good college.

Now: 

  • College isn’t for everyone. 
  • People can still get well paying jobs without a college degree. Just ask my dad.

Then: Boys don’t cry.

Now: 

  • Boys absolutely cry. 
  • This undermines the emotions of men, saying that because you’re a guy, you need to put on a masuline exterior because otherwise, you’re seen as weak. 
  • However, a guy experiencing emotions and seeking help is incredibly strong. 
  • They were willing to try to deal with their emotions, and they took a large step seeking for help. 
  • These men tend to be stronger than the men that tend to ooze toxic masculinity.

Then: Kids shouldn’t question an adult

Now: 

  • Newsflash, adults are wrong all the time! 
  • Telling kids not to question adults is how we don’t expand and learn. 
  • Questioning something is what makes kids smarter and helps them to find flaws and try to fix them. 

Then: Failure is bad.

Now: 

  • We’ve stated before, failure and mistakes are learning opportunities. 
  • If you fail at something, that’s ok. 
  • Learn why you failed and learn how not to repeat it. 
  • We learn more from our failures than our successes.

Then: Complaining is the same as not being grateful.

Now: 

  • Criticism can also be categorized as complaining, and in that case, it is certainly not the same as being ungrateful. 
  • While certain forms of complaining can be seen as being ungrateful, it’s unfair to label complaining in general the same as not being grateful. 
  • Outwardly expressing discontent at something can help us to improve, and most of the time isn’t directly being ungrateful.

Then: That you shouldn’t hit a woman.

Now: 

  • You shouldn’t hit anyone. 
  • Violence isn’t the answer in any case. 
  • This is marketing the stereotype that women are fragile and a man shouldn’t hurt them. 
  • But again, you just shouldn’t hurt anyone.

Then: Practice makes perfect.

Now: 

  • Perfection is an unrealistic expectation for practicing. 
  • What practice will really give you is progress. 
  • You’ll never be perfect at something even if you practice. 
  • You’ll get better, you just won’t be perfect.

Then: Boys Will Be Boys

Now: 

  • This is a sexist remark focusing on the typical stereotype of boys that they always try to start trouble. 
  • Assuming that “all boys are the same” is ridiculous considering everyone is different, and just because many boys may cause trouble doesn’t mean it’s the case for every boy.

Then: You Should Smile More

Now: 

  • This philosophy causes more problems that it solves. 
  • It is a blatant attempt to deprioritize mental illness and is basically like saying “Even if you aren’t happy, you should appear so for other people’s benefit.” 
  • It furthers the idea that people need to hide their emotional problems from society in order to be accepted and function properly in it. 
  • It encourages people to not seek help if they do have problems.

Then: You’ll Understand When You Have Kids

Now: 

  • Where to even start. 
  1. You’re assuming that in the future, the child you’re speaking to will eventually have kids, even though not everyone dreams of having them or are suited to take care of a child.
  2. You assume that every parent experiences the same thing.
    1. Parenting is a complicated experience that, while people can relate to certain parts, is different for everyone.
    2. Teens who later have kids more than likely will have a different experience being a parent then you.

Then: You’re Really Good — For A Girl

Now: 

  • This one’s not hard to figure out. 
  • It’s sexist for pointing out the stereotype that “girls are weaker than boys,” which in many cases, isn’t true. 

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[SEGMENT 2]

Sayings that have lost the original meaning

There are a lot of popular phrases that we use on a daily basis to convey simple meanings or life lessons. Some of these are pretty old and over time have changed. They’ve been shortened, or may reference things that don’t exist anymore. Some of these have mutated so much that the meaning we attribute them today may be completely different from what they were originally intended to convey. Here are a few examples.

Current Saying: “Curiosity killed the cat.”

Current Meaning: 

  • You should not try to find out about something which doesn’t concern you

Original Saying “Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.”

Original Meaning: 

  • The original phrase warns against diving too deep into a needless investigation, but the later amendment, first recorded in American newspapers sometime in the early 1900’s, plays on the trope of cats’ nine lives to change the meaning: 
    • There’s pleasure in finding out something you really want to know.

Current Saying: “Great minds think alike.”

Current Meaning: Used to emphasize a coincidence, or two people reaching the same conclusion in any manner at the same time.

Original Saying: “Great minds think alike, though fools seldom differ.”

Original Meaning: 

  • The etymology of the phrase is mostly unknown but is meant to suggest It’s foolish people, not great minds, that are more likely to have the same banal thoughts all the time.

Current Saying: “Blood is thicker than water.”

Current Meaning: 

  • A person’s family is more important than a person’s other relationships or needs

Original Saying: “The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.”

Original Meaning: 

  • A chosen blood covenant provides a stronger bond than any family.

Current Saying: “Money is the root of all evil.”

Current Meaning: 

  • Greed is the cause of a particular problem or the cause of society’s problems in general

Original Saying: “For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.”

Original Meaning: 

  • This saying, both the full, original quote and the shortened common version, originate from a bible text that warns against greed. 
  • Reading the full version of the quote doesn’t completely change the meaning of the one we all know best, but it might shift your perception of it a bit: 
    • Having money isn’t a problem, it’s wanting money that’s sinful.

Original Saying: “Jack of all trades, master of none.”

Original Meaning: 

  • A person who can do many things but is not an expert at any of them

Original Saying:: “Jack of all trades, master of none, though oftentimes better than master of one.”

Original Meaning: 

  • This saying has been through a lot. 
  • It began as simply, “jack of all trades,” a mostly flattering term for a generalist who has honed many skills. 
  • Later, “master of none” was added on to change the phrase to something slightly derogatory, suggesting that the jack of all trades doesn’t know much at all. 
  • The shady two-part phrase is what most know and use today, but at some point, it was amended again to check the haters. 
  • The full phrase says something like, “I know a little about a lot of things, and that’s better than having a limited skill set any day.”

Current Saying: “Starve a cold, feed a fever.”

Current Meaning: 

  • This saying suggests that fasting is the right way to treat a cold

Original Saying: “If you starve a cold, you’ll have to feed a fever.”

Original Meaning: 

  • If you fast during a cold, you’ll be sick even longer, so eat!

[AD2: ENTERTAINMENT]

[SEGMENT 3]

Head Scratching Phrases

There are some phrases that have been passed down over the years that simply don’t make sense. They seem contradictory to themselves. Some are just simple misquotes that have carried forward like the wrong lyrics of a song. Here are a few examples.

“Same difference”

  • Why are you comparing differences? 
  • Why wouldn’t you just say “same thing?”

“I don’t disagree with you”

  • Doesn’t that mean you actually agree with me? 
  • If you do, just say you agree it sounds much more positive and upbeat

“I could care less” 

  • If you could care less, that means you do care some. 
  • But that’s probably not what you’re trying to convey. 
  • When most people say this, they are trying to convey a lack of caring about something.  
  • Perhaps if you “couldn’t care less” it might convey you are devoid of caring about the given subject.

“The point is mute” 

  • I suppose a point can be “mute” if it “falls on deaf ears”. 
  • But most people are trying to convey the lack of meaning or significance of the point being made so they probably mean the point is “moot” meaning having little or not practical relevance

“For all intensive purposes” 

  • While there is technically nothing wrong with this phrase it’s probably not what you mean when you use it. 
  • This would mean something like “for all purposes that require a lot of effort in a short time”.  
  • What you probably mean is “For all INTENTS and purposes”, meaning one thing has the same effect or result as something else.

“Pull yourself up by your bootstraps”

  • This is a phrase that would have fit well under our previous segment because it’s one that’s changed its meaning over time. 
  • Originally meant to convey an attempt to do something absurd, it changed sometime in the 1920’s and evolved into an expression related to doing something without outside help.

“We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.” 

  • Meaning not to worry about a possible problem until it actually happens the phrase itself is kind of silly when you think about it. 
  • You can’t very well cross a bridge before you come to it can you?

“I got the wrong end of the stick” 

  • This is another curious saying that probably doesn’t hold up too well today. 
  • What in the world are you doing with your sticks that you have a right end and a wrong end?

“Head over heels in love” 

  • Most people usually have their head over their heels when they’re upright.
  • Why would this have anything to do with falling in love?

“You can’t have your cake and eat it too.” 

  • In fact, the only way to eat your cake is to first have it otherwise you wouldn’t be able to eat it. 
  • And what is the point of having cake if you aren’t going to eat it?

“A little bird told me” 

  • Now this one finally makes sense in the age of Twitter. 
  • I can only imagine back in the day this was a phrase a pirate would say when referring to his parrot.

“More than you can shake a stick at” 

  • There we go with the sticks again, why are we shaking sticks at anything? 
  • And how can you possibly have too many of something to shake a stick at?

“Time heals all wounds”

  • Unless of course they’re fatal wounds.

“Love makes the world go round”. 

  • Sure, if by love you mean gravity and inertia.

“There’s more than one way to skin a cat.” 

  • I don’t even want to imagine how this phrase came about. 
  • There has to be a better alternative to express there’s many ways to achieve a goal than this.

“You’re one of a kind.” 

  • Fortunately, since human cloning is still illegal we are all one of a kind. 
  • Even identical twins are unique individuals.

[TRANSITION]

  • [CLOSE]
  • Closing thoughts shoutouts

[OUTRO AND CREDITS]

Transcription

00:01:07:23 – 00:01:47:15
Madison
Insightful podcasts by informative host insights into things, a podcast network welcome to Insights into Teens. A podcast series exploring the issues and challenges of today’s youth. Your hosts are Joseph and Madison. Well, as a father and daughter team making their way through the challenges of.

00:01:47:15 – 00:01:48:26
Michelle
The teenage years.

00:01:57:15 – 00:02:11:13
Joseph
Welcome to Insight into Teens. This is episode one. 50 People Say the Strangest Things. I’m your host Joseph Brolin and my creative and ever curious co-host, Madison.

00:02:11:13 – 00:02:15:28
Madison
We’ll have you on. I don’t think we’ve used ever creative before, so that’s cool.

00:02:15:29 – 00:02:17:21
Joseph
Always trying to come up with something new.

00:02:18:03 – 00:02:18:22
Madison
Nice.

00:02:19:10 – 00:02:20:21
Joseph
So how are we doing today, Matty?

00:02:21:16 – 00:02:22:22
Madison
I’m doing all right.

00:02:23:21 – 00:02:27:27
Joseph
You just got some news, didn’t you? What was that news?

00:02:28:14 – 00:02:38:19
Madison
The fact that I ended up being the top highest. Well, the highest grade point average in my freshman class.

00:02:39:25 – 00:02:40:06
Joseph
Good for.

00:02:40:06 – 00:02:44:11
Madison
You. And now we magically got, like, five other kids after the last time.

00:02:44:18 – 00:03:01:02
Joseph
Well, if we’re not going to. We’re not going to do that. That’s even better, because you got five more people. You’re competing against their congratulations. You What are we talking about today? Oh, that camera angles really bad. We’ll have to fix that.

00:03:01:06 – 00:03:02:05
Madison
How are we gonna get this out?

00:03:02:13 – 00:03:11:12
Joseph
No, we’ll be fine. What are we talking about today? We’ll just go to a different camera. So we do that. We fix problems. So there we go.

00:03:11:18 – 00:03:12:08
Madison
There we go.

00:03:13:20 – 00:03:27:14
Joseph
So what are we talking about? We are talking about funny things in the English language. Not before I go on my summary spiel here. This was an idea you came up with. What was the impetus for this? Why don’t you tell us a little bit about that?

00:03:27:24 – 00:03:52:17
Madison
Well, first of Ora, first of all, it’s our 150th episode. And really, I wanted to do something special for it. I didn’t want to just do a regular podcast for it’s not as big as like 102 hundred, but like it’s kind of one of those mental milestones. And I kind of wanted to do something fun. I thought a regular Q&A really wouldn’t work all that well.

00:03:52:17 – 00:04:17:15
Madison
And then I came up with the idea when me and Mommy were kind of talking with each other and the idea and me and her would talk during lunch and during a certain lunch time, I was like, Hey, were there any things like your teachers told you that? Like, you seemed fine as a kid, but now aren’t really all that fine or don’t really make all that much sense.

00:04:18:20 – 00:04:42:04
Madison
And then I wanted to try turning that into a podcast because a lot of it could be interesting for us to kind of talk about certain sayings that like we’re told that technically aren’t really true. And then it kind of morphed into, okay, we’re going to include some other stuff into that because we can’t really do an entire podcast based on specifically the topic I wanted to discuss.

00:04:42:04 – 00:04:51:23
Madison
And really it was kind of a lot of we kind of have to figure out how to work with with this because I really wanted to turn down into a podcast and here we are now.

00:04:52:05 – 00:05:14:28
Joseph
Yeah. And as I was doing the research for it, I started coming across a whole bunch of different things that I thought might work so well. Give it a shot. See how it works. So the English language is a funny thing. Words and phrases can have different meanings in different cultures. There are other things that might affect the meaning or even the relevance of a word or phrase.

00:05:15:20 – 00:05:47:01
Joseph
Sometimes these things that once had meaning in the past are no longer relevant because of changes in society. This can sometimes conjure misconceptions or misunderstandings. Other times, a phrase changes so much that the true meaning of the phrase itself is lost. While other phrases are often misheard, misunderstood, or just murder, the English language kind of like when you hear the wrong lyrics of a song, which might be a podcast.

00:05:47:01 – 00:06:07:21
Joseph
The Future for us. On today’s episode of Insights in the Teens, we’re going to take a look at a few of the phrases that stand out to us and shed some light on them, alleviate some misconceptions, and maybe even entertain you along the way. But before we do that now, I do want to invite our listening and viewing audience to subscribe to the podcast.

00:06:08:15 – 00:06:32:22
Joseph
You can find audio versions of this podcast, listeners insights into teens. You can also find video and audio versions of the podcast and all of our podcasts. So those insights into things and you can find them anywhere. You can get a regular podcast these days. I’d also like to invite you to give us your feedback on what we’re talking about or give us your suggestions for show topics.

00:06:33:16 – 00:06:49:26
Joseph
You can email us at comments and insights into things dot com, or you can visit us on the web at our official website and get links to pretty much all of our social media at WW W dot insights into things dot com. Ready? Yep. There we go.

00:06:55:16 – 00:07:22:00
Joseph
So the first thing we’re going to talk about are sayings that just aren’t true anymore. And this is sort of what started off with the whole podcast idea when you’re having your discussion. There are sayings in our society that are repeated often enough that they’re almost written in our memories. They often reflect how society behaved at one point in time, but through changes in our society and acceptable behavior they’ve largely lost their meaning.

00:07:22:29 – 00:07:47:28
Joseph
While they may not be relevant to today’s society, they do serve to give us a glimpse as to how things were in the not too distant past. In fact, I remember many of these being in the normal, acceptable societal behaviors when I was a kid. So here’s a few. The first one back then will say was Snitching is wrong.

00:07:48:12 – 00:08:19:25
Joseph
Well, today’s snitching or at least telling an adult about something that other students are doing because they do. Oh, sorry. I missed the line. Line, please. Snitching, or at least telling an adult something that other students are going through because they won’t say anything, can help kids stay out of trouble and can also prevent acts of bullying and abuse of a kid, an abuse a kid is facing who’s too scared to speak out.

00:08:20:19 – 00:08:28:19
Joseph
There are more benefits to snitching. There are more benefits to snitching now than than drawbacks. Boy, that was a hard one to get through.

00:08:28:19 – 00:08:30:11
Madison
I don’t know how that was hard for you.

00:08:30:13 – 00:08:32:28
Joseph
I don’t know. What else do we have?

00:08:33:19 – 00:08:57:17
Madison
We have one that kind of was a major one for me. Is that well, in my scenario, if a boy is mean to a girl, it means he likes her. The thing is now, this really isn’t true. If a person likes you they wouldn’t be actively hurting you. The main problem resides in the fact that it also glorifies the act of bullying by painting it as an act of love.

00:08:57:24 – 00:09:07:09
Madison
While bullying can severely damage someone’s self-esteem and can lead to mental health issues like depression. It can cause these skewed these issues to escalate even further.

00:09:07:13 – 00:09:08:24
Joseph
So even you stumbled there.

00:09:09:12 – 00:09:12:12
Madison
Just because I said a word wrong. It’s not like I skipped it.

00:09:12:12 – 00:09:17:02
Joseph
Wasn’t like you said a whole paragraph long. I know. What else are we hearing.

00:09:17:21 – 00:09:43:27
Madison
We also had. Then people would say it’s rude to ask people about the disability. Now, knowledge is pretty much power at this point. Well, someone well, some people might be. While some people might not like others bringing up their disability, it can be a good learning opportunity for kids who don’t have a disability to know how it can affect the life of a person that does.

00:09:44:04 – 00:09:58:08
Madison
And it’s a great opportunity for them to learn that they can still live a normal life like a kid that didn’t have the disability can do in.

00:09:58:08 – 00:09:58:16
Joseph
Air.

00:09:58:16 – 00:10:01:07
Madison
Quotes. And I don’t like calling it a disability.

00:10:02:10 – 00:10:24:12
Joseph
You have to do you have to call it something. What else was that? A call. And I don’t know what else you would call if we used to call it a handicap, but it’s really not a handicap. So I don’t what the proper term is, but that’s something we could do a of research on. Yeah. So then they used to say, you need to find love in order to settle down and be happy.

00:10:24:29 – 00:10:44:28
Joseph
That’s not really the case. There are people who never get married or date that live perfectly content single lives they could be living on their own with friends and roommates or with pets and have a well-paying job and a good home, as well as hobbies that they enjoy along with connections that aren’t romantic. And that’s absolutely true.

00:10:47:18 – 00:11:06:18
Joseph
Back then, they used to say the only purpose in school was to get a good college education or a good college. Well, today, I think we all realize that even though a lot of what we do in high school pushes us towards college, the college isn’t for everyone. Even people can still get well-paying jobs without a college degree.

00:11:09:07 – 00:11:10:06
Madison
Just ask my dad.

00:11:10:07 – 00:11:13:06
Joseph
There you go. Moving right along.

00:11:13:18 – 00:11:28:02
Madison
Now this one. Then, like this one’s still kind of one that I feel people still kind of talk about, but is now starting to get a bit more traction is that boys don’t cry. Boys absolutely cry.

00:11:28:14 – 00:11:29:26
Joseph
Especially when you kick him in the shade.

00:11:31:21 – 00:11:58:17
Madison
So this undermines the emotions of men saying that because you’re a guy, you need to put on a masculine exterior because otherwise you’re seen as weak. However, a guy experiencing emotions and seeking help is incredibly strong. They are willing to try and deal with their emotions, and they took a large step seeking for help. These men tend to be stronger than men that actually normally ooze toxic masculinity, toxic masculinity.

00:11:58:17 – 00:12:07:13
Joseph
And I like that phrase. Sounds like a perfume was meant for long. What do you wear to toxic masculinity?

00:12:08:02 – 00:12:17:23
Madison
I mean, it goes great with like the grenade bomb obsidian. They’re young. They’re textures that.

00:12:18:22 – 00:12:21:08
Joseph
We’re actually aware. Toxic masculinity.

00:12:22:12 – 00:12:35:01
Madison
Yeah, Another one that people are starting to bring into question is ironically, that kids shouldn’t question an adult. Newsflash, adults are wrong all the time.

00:12:35:12 – 00:12:37:11
Joseph
All the time. Sometimes I’m right.

00:12:38:05 – 00:12:39:07
Madison
I mean, just check Twitter.

00:12:39:07 – 00:12:40:16
Joseph
I was right yesterday.

00:12:42:17 – 00:12:53:02
Madison
All right, fine. Telling kids not to question adults as how we don’t expand them learn. Questioning something is what makes kids smarter and helps them to find flaws. And try to fix them.

00:12:53:11 – 00:13:16:10
Joseph
There you go. Failure is bad. Not to be confused with failure is not an option. It was a movie line that was never actually said in real life. Hmm. We know failure isn’t bad. We said before on the podcast, failure, mistakes and learning opportunities. If you fail at something, it’s okay. Learn why you fail and learn how to not to repeat it.

00:13:17:02 – 00:13:23:28
Joseph
We learn more from our failures than our successes. I’m a copyright actor and I’m pretty sure that’s like our trademark on this podcast.

00:13:24:00 – 00:13:25:13
Madison
At this point, kind of.

00:13:26:11 – 00:13:55:28
Joseph
Complaining is the same as not being grateful. Criticism can also be categorized as complaining, and in that case, it’s certainly not the same thing as ungrateful. Certain forms of complaining can be seen as ungrateful. It’s unfair to label complaining in general, the same as not being grateful. Outwardly expressing discontent at something you can help us improve. And most of the time isn’t directly being ungrateful.

00:13:55:29 – 00:14:15:13
Joseph
Now we did a podcast on complaining and how to complain. Complain it. It might sound comical, and I’m not frankly a joke, but complaining is an important part of society. Things don’t get fixed if you don’t complain about them. Nobody complains when everything’s working fine.

00:14:15:26 – 00:14:16:08
Madison
Yeah.

00:14:16:17 – 00:14:47:14
Joseph
Case in point there was a water meme that broke in Philadelphia I was on the news today and that water main was put in and like 1896 or something like that. And it’s worked fine. Until it stopped working and nobody complained about it when people were getting leaks here and leaks there. Well, when it fails catastrophically and it floods like dozens of homes and ruins vehicles and streets and cars, and there’s millions of dollars in damage, it’s not working.

00:14:47:15 – 00:14:56:20
Joseph
And so now we’re going to complain about what had someone complained about it before they would have replaced that some year old water pipe. Nothing gets fixed if you don’t complain about it.

00:14:57:04 – 00:14:58:07
Madison
Yeah. Ironically.

00:14:58:20 – 00:14:59:07
Joseph
What else do we.

00:15:00:09 – 00:15:06:24
Madison
The next one is specifically intended to direct towards men, and it’s that you shouldn’t hit a woman.

00:15:06:27 – 00:15:08:15
Joseph
That’s not true. Women hit women, too.

00:15:08:16 – 00:15:24:25
Madison
Well, yeah, but, like, the main point is that you shouldn’t hit anyone. Violence isn’t the answer in any case. It is. It is marketing the stereotype that women are fragile and a man shouldn’t hurt them. But again, you really just shouldn’t hurt anyone.

00:15:24:27 – 00:15:25:23
Joseph
Amen to that.

00:15:28:02 – 00:15:49:01
Madison
Another common one that still said today is that that practice makes perfect. And that’s the thing. Perfection is an unrealistic expectation for practicing what practices will really give you as progress. You’ll never get perfect that something, even if you practice it, you’ll get better you just won’t be perfect.

00:15:49:07 – 00:15:58:08
Joseph
I love that phrase. Practice gives you progress. That’s another one that I think we should copy right here. That’s going to be us. That works.

00:15:58:17 – 00:15:59:03
Madison
All right.

00:16:00:10 – 00:16:30:14
Joseph
Boys will be boys. Now, there’s a lot of different meanings to that in today’s society, but specifically what we’re talking about is the fact that this is a sexist remark, focusing on the typical stereotype of boys that are always trying to start trouble Assuming that all boys are, quote, the same, it’s ridiculous considering everyone is different. And just because many boys may cause trouble doesn’t mean it’s the case for every boy.

00:16:31:02 – 00:16:59:11
Joseph
And part of this goes back to the fact that in high school, in grade school, whatever boys mature at a different rate than girls do. So the boys tend to mentally mature later in puberty than the girls do. So as a result of that, they get this stigmatism that they’re always causing trouble. So there’s some truth behind it, but it’s not quite what it what it used to be.

00:17:00:18 – 00:17:33:19
Joseph
And this is one that you love. You should smile more. Okay. This philosophy causes more problems than it solves. It’s a blatant attempt to deprioritized mental illness and is basically like saying even though you aren’t happy, you should appear so for other people’s benefit. It furthers the idea that people need to hide their emotional problems from society in order to be accepted and function properly and encourages people not to seek help if they do have problems.

00:17:33:19 – 00:17:45:14
Joseph
And the one thing that we’re big on here is find the help that you need. It’s out there. Find it don’t hide it, accept what you are and who you are. And what’s the last one we have?

00:17:46:06 – 00:17:47:15
Madison
Well, we have two more.

00:17:47:20 – 00:17:50:11
Joseph
Who do we do? We’ll get to that is roll over.

00:17:50:18 – 00:18:12:01
Madison
It’s fine. So a common phrase you’ll still technically hear nowadays is that, oh, you’ll understand when you have kids. So where do you even start? For one, you’re assuming that in the future, the child you’re speaking to will eventually have kids, even though not everyone dreams of having them or even really suited to take care of a child.

00:18:12:18 – 00:18:28:09
Madison
Do you assume that every parent experiences the same thing? Parenting is a complicated experience that people can relate to. Certain parts is different for everyone. Teens who later have kids more than likely will have a different experience being a parent than you.

00:18:29:02 – 00:19:00:29
Joseph
I will say being a parent that my perspective on this is kind of biased because there are things that give me perspective in life as a parent. That I can honestly say I would never experience if I didn’t have kids. Now, the fact that you’re kind of telling people you’re being derogatory and that you’re saying you’ll never understand this until you have kids, meaning will they need to have kids.

00:19:01:11 – 00:19:03:26
Joseph
That’s the part, I think, in the statement. That’s the problem.

00:19:04:00 – 00:19:11:21
Madison
Yeah, I think that would most likely be the main problem, assuming that like, oh, everybody’s going to have kids, so everybody has to have that experience or something.

00:19:11:21 – 00:19:37:00
Joseph
Right? There are there are things that we as individuals will never understand without experiencing that. And there are lots of things that we don’t want to experience. You know, I’ll never know. Hopefully, I’ll never know what it’s like to be in like a nuclear blast. But there are people that are alive today that have survived that, that know what it’s like.

00:19:38:06 – 00:20:09:10
Joseph
You know, I’ll never know what it’s like. To to be slim an inch but there are people that know that, you know, so there are certain things that if you don’t go through those experiences, it’s very difficult to understand and I can imagine, I can sympathize or I can empathize with you. But one of the other ones that I was going to put in here was, you know, the phrase that parents just don’t understand and they don’t.

00:20:09:23 – 00:20:41:01
Joseph
And it’s very similar to this one. You’re going through something similar to what I went through Maybe, but not the same. So I don’t understand what you’re going through. I understand what I went through. And perhaps in conveying that and how I dealt with it. It might help you to deal with what you’re going through. So not everyone goes through the same experiences, but this one here, they think the real problem is you’re assuming they’re going to have kids.

00:20:41:01 – 00:20:43:17
Joseph
And I think that assumption is where we take exception.

00:20:43:24 – 00:20:44:06
Madison
Yeah.

00:20:45:01 – 00:20:48:23
Joseph
And now for the last word, that was the penultimate last one. This is the list.

00:20:49:14 – 00:21:04:12
Madison
This last one I technically have more of an experience with. And that is the saying that you’re really good for girl. Now, this one is not really all that hard to figure out. Excess X I botched that.

00:21:04:23 – 00:21:06:07
Joseph
Yes. Which is really.

00:21:07:03 – 00:21:34:08
Madison
It’s sexist or pointing out the stereotype that girls are weaker than boys, which in many cases really isn’t true. And I’ve had a personal experience with this not and it wasn’t really directed at me, but it sort of followed the lines of this and I might have and I’ve mentioned this on the podcast before, but I was during my physics class where ironically I was the only girl in the room and the substitute teacher was talking to some of the boys in the background.

00:21:34:08 – 00:21:53:11
Madison
Again, not directed towards me, but the boys did something and the teacher testing and the teacher said that I’ve seen girls that are stronger than you or something along those lines. And yeah, I didn’t really. It was it was kind of shocking to me. Yeah.

00:21:53:18 – 00:22:06:21
Joseph
Because it’s for the record, it was a substitute teacher. Yeah. Was it your regular physics teacher? She took care of that. Yep. Literally, like she she came back, man, and she she took care of that with a vengeance. So kudos to her for that.

00:22:07:02 – 00:22:30:04
Madison
Yeah. So I’ve personally had experience with this and like, it doesn’t sit well nowadays. It kind of seems harmless. No, nowadays it seems more harmful, but like, it used to be one of those scenes that nobody really cared about until, like, recently. And I really hope that this kind of goes away.

00:22:30:09 – 00:22:53:21
Joseph
Yeah, I think a lot of these need to kind of go away. And then, like, these types of things are statements that lead to mistreatment. Like, for instance, that statement alone, I can remember growing up as a kid and people would get picked for teens and they’d always picked the girls list because the boys didn’t want the girls on their team.

00:22:54:27 – 00:23:03:00
Joseph
And it’s like, well, you know, some of the girls here are much better than some of the boys. Just because they’re girls doesn’t mean they shouldn’t get picked.

00:23:03:10 – 00:23:03:21
Madison
Yeah.

00:23:04:18 – 00:23:30:20
Joseph
And I’m in the process of doing research for a new insights into tomorrow episode where we’re going to talk about fundamental women’s rights and how they progressed and so forth. And it was an eye opener to see how slow things have progressed over time. There’s small leaps and then no progress at all. And then now certain things are being regressed back to where they were before.

00:23:32:01 – 00:23:52:15
Joseph
And it’s unfortunate because I don’t think any segment of the population deserves that kind of treatment. And when you say something like that, we’re comparing someone to a girl is meant to be derogatory. You clearly don’t understand women. You don’t understand how capable girls can be if you’re going to make a statement like that.

00:23:52:23 – 00:24:13:12
Madison
And it’s the same thing even with when it comes to the boys, a lot of the times when you see that it’s either undermining the fact that all boys are the same with the fact that they’re troublemakers and the fact that they mature later on than girls do. And also, society tends to undermine the fact of men’s mental health.

00:24:13:24 – 00:24:14:17
Joseph
Absolutely.

00:24:15:06 – 00:24:27:03
Madison
So honestly, it’s it can go both ways with women. They’re being undermined with men. They’re being they’re not allowed to express their emotions like women are.

00:24:27:10 – 00:25:01:14
Joseph
Yeah, there are there are prejudices that are built into society. And some of these phrases kind of highlight those prejudices. And even though they’re just words words have an effect. You know, they have an effect today. These are phrases that are decades old that still have an effect today. And I think the important takeaway from, I guess this initial discussion is be mindful of what you say because what you say has an effect on people and that effect has ripples out.

00:25:01:21 – 00:25:14:23
Joseph
You know, what you say today has an effect in the long term on that person who that person interacts with and who they interact with. Set a good example.

00:25:15:06 – 00:25:36:23
Madison
Yeah. And like I also kind of thought of another common phrase that people say is that actions speak louder than words, but words can still speak like really loudly to people. You can get like a small compliment from like someone can give you a small compliment and you just feel amazing from it. Or someone can just say something so hurtful that.

00:25:37:15 – 00:25:57:09
Joseph
And that’s the thing. It’s a double edged sword. Right. So on one hand, you can compliment someone, lift them up, inspire them to do great things, and in the next breath you could say something derogatory to someone and tear them down and, you know, give them a level of anxiety of you that just isn’t warranted.

00:25:59:11 – 00:26:08:17
Joseph
Anyway, I think we’re going to take a break here. We’re going to come back and we’re going to talk about some sayings that have lost their original meanings. We’ll be right back.

00:26:17:06 – 00:26:47:11
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00:26:48:06 – 00:27:11:20
Joseph
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00:27:19:06 – 00:27:42:24
Madison
Welcome back to insights from the teens today we’re talking about people say the strangest things. And now we’re going to discuss things that have lost their original meaning. There are a lot of popular phrases that we use on daily basis to convey simple meanings or life lessons. Some of these are pretty old and over time have changed. They’ve been shortened or maybe or may reference things that don’t exist anymore.

00:27:43:05 – 00:28:09:18
Madison
Some of these have mutated so much that the meaning we attribute them today may be completely different from what they were originally intended to convey. Here’s a few examples. So the current saying we have is one that’s incredibly popular is that Curiosity killed the cat with the current meaning, basically meaning you should not try to find out about something which doesn’t concern you.

00:28:10:05 – 00:28:40:06
Madison
The original thing is actually much longer saying Curiosity killed the cat, but Satisfaction brought it back. The original the original phrase warns against diving too deep into a needless needless investigation. But the later amendment first recorded in American newspapers sometime in the early 1900s, plays on the trope of cats nine lives to change the meaning here. There’s pleasure in finding out something you really want to know.

00:28:40:11 – 00:29:06:06
Joseph
That’s interesting. So another one that we hear a lot is great minds think alike. So the current meaning, as we understand it, emphasis is used to emphasize a coincidence or to people reaching the same conclusion in a manner of manner at the same time. So you and I say the same thing, which our great minds think alike will the original saying is again a little bit longer.

00:29:06:13 – 00:29:23:10
Joseph
It says great minds think alike, though fools seldom differ. The etymology of the phrase is mostly unknown, but it’s meant to suggest it’s foolish people, not great minds that are more likely to have the same banal thoughts all the time.

00:29:24:07 – 00:29:46:03
Madison
Another one that’s commonly used is that blood is thicker than water. Meaning a person’s family is more important than a person’s other relationship or needs. The original saying actually play like the original saying is like has way more words mixed in with the original words saying The blood of the.

00:29:46:17 – 00:29:47:02
Joseph
Covenant.

00:29:47:04 – 00:29:55:05
Madison
Covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. Basically, meaning a chosen blood covenant provides a stronger bond than any family.

00:29:55:10 – 00:30:07:15
Joseph
So the sort of friends or the associate it’s that you bond to you. You choose. You don’t get to choose your family. You get to choose your friends. And it’s that bond with strong.

00:30:07:25 – 00:30:11:09
Madison
So it’s basically the exact opposite I’ll say.

00:30:11:09 – 00:30:34:23
Joseph
Which is funny. Some of these are like that. This is another good one. Money is the root of all evil, which means greed is the cause. Of a particular problem or all the society’s problems in general. Well, the original sin is actually a Bible text that says for the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.

00:30:35:19 – 00:30:58:19
Joseph
Now, when you take it like this, both the full original quote and the short and common version originate from the Bible that warns against greed. But reading the full version of the quote doesn’t completely change the meaning of the one we all know best, but it might shift your perspective a bit. It really means having money isn’t a problem.

00:30:58:29 – 00:31:07:06
Joseph
It’s one thing money. That’s the problem. That’s sinful. So again, it’s another shift in the meaning of what the original phrase.

00:31:08:15 – 00:31:46:10
Madison
Then we have jack of all trades, master of none. Meaning a person who can do many things but is not an expert at any of them. The original saying is longer like some of these typically are jack of all trades. Master of none, though oftentimes better than the master of one. The saying has been through a lot. It begins a simply jack of all trades and most flip, a most flattering term for a generalist who has honed many skills Later, Master of None was added on to change the phrase to something slightly derogatory, suggesting that the jack of all trades doesn’t know much at all.

00:31:47:02 – 00:31:53:17
Madison
The shady two part phrase is what most know and use today, but at some point it was amended.

00:31:53:29 – 00:31:55:08
Joseph
Amended, amended.

00:31:55:14 – 00:32:07:08
Madison
Amended again to check there to check the haters. The whole phrase says something like, I know a little about a lot of things, and that’s better than having a limited skill set. Any day.

00:32:07:16 – 00:32:10:05
Joseph
Much more complicated than originally thought.

00:32:10:08 – 00:32:10:19
Madison
Yep.

00:32:11:15 – 00:32:41:16
Joseph
The last one that we have in this particular category is an old adage that says Starve a cold, feed a fever. I think everybody’s heard that. And today’s meeting means that fasting is the right way to treat a cold will be original. Quote is, if you starve a cold, you’ll have to feed a fever, which really means if you fast during a cold, you’ll be even sicker longer and you’ll wind up getting the fever.

00:32:41:16 – 00:33:06:04
Joseph
So eat during the cold. So its interesting how some of these things and this is just kind of a handful of examples of what these phrases are in and how the English language has changed around these things, that they’ve got completely different meanings. Can you think of anything else that we might not have talked about Hmm.

00:33:07:07 – 00:33:09:08
Madison
These are all really good ones.

00:33:10:00 – 00:33:20:17
Joseph
The other one, the other ones that come to mind to me are nursery rhyme like a great one that nobody ever really knew me to was ring around the Rosie.

00:33:20:19 – 00:33:21:11
Madison
Oh, yeah.

00:33:21:21 – 00:33:23:00
Joseph
What is the meaning of that?

00:33:23:05 – 00:33:35:01
Madison
I know it has to do about the bubonic plague and the fact that you would get, like, rings, like, basically you’d I think it was like it was something on your skin that made it look like like. Right.

00:33:35:03 – 00:34:05:12
Joseph
So when you got the bubonic plague, you would get what are called blue, which is where the term bubonic plague came from, and you’d get round sores on your hands that would have red rings, rash of rash around them. So you would have the rings there. People would carry because they didn’t understand where the germs came from. They would carry rose petals in their pockets and they would sniff the rose petals, thinking that that would help to ward off the evil spirits that were causing it.

00:34:06:04 – 00:34:35:08
Joseph
So you’d have rings around the roses. And then the term everyone used things that is ashes. Ashes fall down. It’s actually as shoes, Ashu as if you’re sneezing because you would do get rings around the roses. You would sneeze, you would fall and you would die. So it’s really a morbid, like, terrible nursery run if you listen to it and you attribute the meaning.

00:34:35:18 – 00:35:03:14
Madison
And then you are. And like, I want to put another example out. I don’t entirely know the origins of it, but it kind of gets creepy when you kind of look into it more and more. Is Humpty Dumpty, you know about the little leg that fell off the brick wall? The king’s horses can put them back together, but it gets really creepy when you realize that it didn’t specify that Humpty was an egg.

00:35:04:14 – 00:35:05:04
Joseph
Yes.

00:35:05:20 – 00:35:07:13
Madison
So it makes you think.

00:35:07:25 – 00:35:24:02
Joseph
Yeah, that’s again, that’s weird, but that’s very similar to like the Grimm’s Fairy Tales, which all your Disney princess fairy tales are really based off of. But if you go back and read the Grimm’s Fairy Tales, there’s no such thing as a happy ending there.

00:35:24:08 – 00:35:37:02
Madison
Yeah. The best example I can give us a little mermaid where instead of just giving up the voice and the happy friendly kid manner, that Disney put it out, she literally cut off her tongue.

00:35:37:05 – 00:35:49:11
Joseph
Right. Right. So the Grimm’s Fairy Tales were very dark, and somehow Disney thought they were good for inspiration for for a nice little happy ending. Good stories where everyone lives happily ever after.

00:35:49:13 – 00:35:52:13
Madison
Snow White’s ending is probably the one that scared me the most.

00:35:52:14 – 00:36:13:20
Joseph
Well, we won’t go into that here because it is very morbid. Yeah. So anyway, just another example of how English language in the phrases that we think we know might have different meanings. So we’re going to take our last break. We’re going to come back and we’ll talk about what I describe as some head scratching phrases. We’ll be right back.

00:36:22:14 – 00:36:52:19
Joseph
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00:36:53:13 – 00:37:16:29
Joseph
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00:37:24:20 – 00:37:47:13
Madison
Welcome back to Insights on the teens today we’re talking about people say the strangest things. And now we’re going to talk about head scratching phrases. Now, there are some phrases that have been passed down over the years that simply don’t make sense. They seem contradictory to themselves. Some are just simple misquotes that are carried forward like the wrong lyrics of a song.

00:37:47:23 – 00:38:09:11
Madison
Here are a few examples. The first one we have is a very common one, meaning by the saying same difference. But the thing is, why are you comparing differences? Why wouldn’t you just say, why wouldn’t you just say same thing? Right. And this is a saying that I’ve been using that I know that you have been like criticizing me on.

00:38:09:11 – 00:38:30:22
Madison
It’s one of the phrases I’m interested to see. If you also put the other phrase that I used to say that I’m not saying anymore. If not, I’m going to mention it then we have I don’t disagree with you. But doesn’t that mean you actually agree with me? If you do, just say that you agree. It sounds much more positive and upbeat rather than, you know, the.

00:38:30:27 – 00:38:33:10
Madison
Oh, yeah, I don’t disagree with you.

00:38:33:18 – 00:38:59:27
Joseph
I had a guy I worked with eight years ago and he never agreed with anybody. And it was he was such a I’m going to say disagreeable person. But like he was argumentative and abrasive and like nobody liked the guy because he never had anything nice to say. The nicest thing he would say is, well, I don’t disagree with you.

00:39:01:11 – 00:39:18:14
Joseph
Something you agree with me right now. I just don’t disagree with you. He just on principle wouldn’t agree with people. And it was just driving everybody crazy. That’s why that one made this latest thing. Sure. You’re different when rudeness to the other one. Did I know which one you’re talking to?

00:39:18:20 – 00:39:19:10
Madison
Dang it.

00:39:19:26 – 00:39:22:00
Joseph
The one that I hear a lot that.

00:39:23:06 – 00:39:25:00
Madison
Again, I still kind of say.

00:39:25:00 – 00:39:32:28
Joseph
Drives me crazy. I could care less. Oh, so then you care some, right? Because if you can care less you have some caring to give.

00:39:33:11 – 00:39:33:24
Madison
Yeah.

00:39:34:03 – 00:39:46:13
Joseph
But most people probably don’t think that that’s what they’re trying to convey. When most people see this, they’re trying to convey a lack of caring about something. So you probably want to say something like, I couldn’t care less.

00:39:46:27 – 00:39:51:00
Madison
Or just say I could care more if I mean.

00:39:51:01 – 00:40:24:12
Joseph
Okay, I mean, sure, that gets reported Frosty there. But the other one and this one is just really people not knowing the English language is the point that point mute. It’s not mute. Now, it could be me. If you’re making a point and it falls on deaf ears, then it’s mute. That means you can’t hear. But most people are trying to convey a lack of meaning or significance of the point being made, so they probably mean it’s moot meaning having little or no practical relevance.

00:40:24:22 – 00:40:26:14
Joseph
Mm hmm. What else do we have?

00:40:27:00 – 00:40:50:22
Madison
We also have for all intensive purposes. Well, there’s technically nothing wrong with this phrase. It’s probably not what you mean when you use it. This would mean something like for all purposes that require a lot a lot of effort in a short time. What you probably mean is, for all intents and purposes, meaning that one thing is that has the same effect.

00:40:50:22 – 00:41:08:03
Madison
A result as something else. You also have another one being pull yourself up by your bootstraps. This is a phrase that would that would have lived that would have lived left well under our previous segment. Oh, no, that is fit.

00:41:08:12 – 00:41:12:27
Joseph
Fit. Yeah. Well, we’re going to live there. I don’t know. You got a line that’s left.

00:41:14:17 – 00:41:31:28
Madison
This is a phrase that would have fit well under our previous segment because it’s one that’s changed its meaning over time. Originally meant to say an attempt to do something absurd. It changed sometime in the 1920s and evolved into an expression related to doing something without outside help.

00:41:32:10 – 00:41:34:18
Joseph
You know what bootstraps are, by the way?

00:41:35:05 – 00:41:35:24
Madison
Not really.

00:41:35:29 – 00:42:04:06
Joseph
So on on boats, there’s hooks on either side. It like cowboy boots and stuff like that. And you’re supposed to put your fingers in there so you can pull the boots up. That’s a bootstrap. Imagine trying to lift yourself up by your bootstraps. It’s physically impossible to do so. Yes. So anyway, it was meant to me. Convey something absurd We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.

00:42:05:02 – 00:42:27:18
Joseph
Meaning not to worry about a possible problem until it actually happens. The phrase itself is kind of silly. When you think about it. You can’t very well cross a bridge until you come to it. So you. You can’t do it beforehand. So it’s kind of silly the way it is. But again, it’s one of those absurd statements there to prove a point.

00:42:27:26 – 00:42:28:09
Madison
Yeah.

00:42:29:08 – 00:42:45:27
Joseph
The other one I love was, Oh, I got the wrong end. Of the stick. This is another curious saying that probably doesn’t hold up too well today. What in the world are you doing with your sticks? That you have a right end of a stick and a wrong in the mistake you’re poking at someplace you shouldn’t be at that point, I think.

00:42:46:17 – 00:42:56:18
Madison
Then we have the phrase head over heels in love. Most people usually have the head over the heels when they’re upright. Why would this have anything to do with falling in love?

00:42:56:24 – 00:42:57:26
Joseph
Yeah, I love that.

00:42:58:00 – 00:43:18:27
Madison
It’s another one that confuses me like love has a lot of weird sayings, and this is probably one of the ones that, like most people, normalize. But when you think about it, it’s probably one of the weirder ones. Then you have you can’t have your cake and eat it, too. In fact, the only way you can eat your cake is to first have it, otherwise you wouldn’t be able to eat it.

00:43:19:10 – 00:43:21:28
Madison
And what’s the point of having cake if you aren’t going to eat it?

00:43:22:00 – 00:43:46:13
Joseph
Amen to that. And here’s one that doesn’t probably mean the same thing, but a little Little Bird told me. Now, this one finally makes sense in the age of Twitter. There’s a lot of birds telling me a lot of things on Twitter these days, and I can only imagine back in the day that this was a phrase that a pirate would say, referring to his parrot, whispering in his ear or something like that.

00:43:46:14 – 00:43:48:18
Madison
You know, I mean, that’d be kind of funny if it was.

00:43:48:27 – 00:43:49:16
Joseph
Exactly.

00:43:49:20 – 00:43:52:19
Madison
Made that in the make that the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie.

00:43:52:21 – 00:44:09:28
Joseph
There you go. And here’s another one that goes to the left. The previous one, I had more than you can shake a stick at it. There we go. The sticks again. Why are we shaking sticks at anything? And how can you possibly have too many if something to shake a stick at I don’t get that.

00:44:11:00 – 00:44:16:14
Madison
Now we have time heals all wounds. Unless, of course, their fatal wounds.

00:44:17:02 – 00:44:19:07
Joseph
Then doesn’t matter how much time you have there.

00:44:19:13 – 00:44:28:29
Madison
Yeah. Then you have another one of those love thing is that love makes the world go round. Sure. If by love you mean gravity and inertia.

00:44:29:04 – 00:44:29:22
Joseph
Say.

00:44:30:00 – 00:44:30:29
Madison
Science.

00:44:33:29 – 00:44:40:14
Joseph
There’s more than one way to skin a cat. I don’t even want to imagine how this phrase came about.

00:44:40:15 – 00:44:41:19
Madison
Yeah, neither do I.

00:44:41:20 – 00:44:48:27
Joseph
There has to be a better alternative to express. There’s many ways to achieve a goal than skinning cats.

00:44:48:29 – 00:44:52:07
Madison
Yeah. I don’t think that’s something that most people would like to imagine.

00:44:52:13 – 00:45:16:10
Joseph
No, And the last one that we have here is you’re one of a kind. Well, fortunately, since human cloning is still illegal, we’re all one of a kind. Even identical twins are unique individuals. So, again, there was a whole slew of these that that kind of came out of my research. These are the ones that kind of stuck out.

00:45:16:10 – 00:45:17:20
Joseph
What was the one you were thinking of?

00:45:18:15 – 00:45:28:01
Madison
The one I was thinking of is, needless to say, yes, And then you would always go on saying, if it’s needless to say, you don’t need to say it.

00:45:28:02 – 00:45:30:21
Joseph
Exactly. If it’s needless to say, why are you saying it?

00:45:30:26 – 00:45:31:17
Madison
Yeah.

00:45:31:25 – 00:45:36:09
Joseph
So there’s lots of stuff out there. Do you think of anything else off the top of your head?

00:45:40:05 – 00:45:57:10
Joseph
I used to have, in fact, my mentor when when I was working an early job here, a brilliant man got along with a great with an Indian gentleman named Define, who had a lot of respect for him. He used to say, and it was partially his accent, but it was a phrase that he would say all the time.

00:45:57:29 – 00:46:23:20
Joseph
Unless it anto. And I was like, What does that mean? What would he say? Because he would say it so fast, and eventually I realized it wasn’t unless and until he was saying unless and until. And it took me like three years of working with the man to figure out what exactly he was saying there. And I’m like, okay, that kind of makes sense now.

00:46:24:12 – 00:46:25:23
Joseph
But he used it all the time.

00:46:26:09 – 00:46:31:05
Madison
How about love? Makes the world blind or love makes people blind or whatever.

00:46:31:15 – 00:46:32:17
Joseph
Well, love is blind.

00:46:32:23 – 00:46:33:17
Madison
Oh, love is blind.

00:46:33:17 – 00:46:38:20
Joseph
Love is blind. Justice is blind, too. But justice and love don’t really go together too long.

00:46:39:01 – 00:46:39:16
Madison
Yeah.

00:46:40:04 – 00:47:00:26
Joseph
So there’s a lot of silly things. And it’s like there’s a I guess there’s a entomology, an origin to a lot of these phrases that has just been lost over time as to why these things make any sense at all. It’s raining cats and dogs. At what point was that everything?

00:47:01:00 – 00:47:11:21
Madison
Oh, yeah. Any idioms break a leg, as in an encouraging way. Right. Well, it’s like when you’re telling someone to break their leg. Doesn’t sound like you’re trying to encourage.

00:47:11:21 – 00:47:25:15
Joseph
Or are version of when you’re going to a comic book show, break a rib Anyway, I think that’s a good stop on there.

00:47:26:13 – 00:47:28:16
Madison
Or in the case of marching band, break your knees.

00:47:28:16 – 00:47:48:18
Joseph
Break your knee. There you go. Anyway, so, yeah, today was just a you know, we’re marking 150th year. We’ve been doing a couple of hard hitting one. So it was nice to just sort of unwind and have a little bit of fun with this one today. I don’t think we’re coming back with any closing thoughts I don’t really think there’s any closing thoughts or shadows to do.

00:47:48:25 – 00:47:49:17
Madison
Probably not.

00:47:50:04 – 00:48:19:15
Joseph
So we’ll just, you know, barrel right on through here and once again, invite our listening and viewing audience to subscribe to the podcast. You can get audio versions, both of those insights into teens, audio and video versions of all of our podcasts can be found listed as insights into things on Apple, Spotify, Google, Stitcher, etc., etc.. We’d also invite you to reach out contact us, give us your feedback, email us and comments and insights into things dot com.

00:48:20:05 – 00:48:50:05
Joseph
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00:48:50:14 – 00:48:59:25
Madison
And don’t forget to check out the two podcast insights in the entertainment hosted by you in Miami. And then tomorrow, our monthly podcast hosted by you and my brother Sam.

00:48:59:26 – 00:49:05:06
Joseph
Except this week when we’re switching host of the two shows and trying something new and.

00:49:05:21 – 00:49:07:24
Madison
Yeah, should I rephrase? I just said.

00:49:07:25 – 00:49:24:12
Joseph
No, that’s good. That’s good. Typically that’s you’re the host star, but we’re going to change things up a little bit. We got some interesting topics that that are we’re bringing special host and we’ll say for in this case here. But anyway, that’s it. Another one in the books by.

00:49:24:12 – 00:49:24:26
Madison
Me, one.

00:49:24:28 – 00:49:25:16
Joseph
By.

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