Insights Into Tomorrow: Episode 11 “The Trump Legacy”

In this post inauguration episode we reflect on the legacy of Donald J. Trump and the impact he’s had on the country, the world and the presidency. We’ll run down some of his most notable accomplishments in office and give credit where it is due. We’ll also look at some of the more significant failures he’s faced while in office. Then we’ll take a look at what the long last impact of his time in office will have on numerous aspects of life moving forward before we look to the future of the Biden administration and discuss the challenges facing the new president and how we think he will handle them.

Show Notes

[INTRO THEME]

  • [INTRODUCTIONS] (3-5 minutes)
    • Show introduction:
      •  Insights Into Tomorrow Episode: 11  “The Trump Legacy”
    • Host introductions
      • Host (Joseph Whalen)
      • My co-host (Sam Whalen)

[TRANSITION]

  • [SEGMENT 1: Topic Introduction/Episode Premise] (5-10 minutes)

Notable Trump Accomplishments

  • Reshaping the federal judiciary
    • 3 Supreme court justices
    • 220 judges to other federal benches (all for lifetime appointments)
    • 25% of US Circuit court judges were Trump nominees
    • Trump’s influence will live on through the judiciary for the foreseeable future
  • Space Force
    • A more centralized version of military missions in space previously handled by other branches
    • First new branch of the military since US Air Force created in 1947
    • Spawned a Steve Carrell sitcom
  • Tax Reform
    • Biggest overhaul of nations tax code in three decades
    • Slashed corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%
    • Critics argue it was a windfall for massive corporations at the expense of the middle class
    • Administration officials predicted GDP boost by 3-6%
  • Reform of the Justice System
    • Addresses mass incarceration on the federal level
    • Overhauls federal sentencing laws reducing minimum mandatory sentences for drug felonies
    • Offers more rehabilitation and job training opportunities
  • Defeating ISIS’s caliphate
    • Trump has falsely claimed ISIS is totally defeated
    • Though territory has been lost there are still an estimated 18,000 fighters in Iraq and Syria
    • The US was successful in killing ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

[AD1: SSE]

  • [SEGMENT 2: Historical background/Symptoms and signs] (10-15 minutes)
     

Notable Trump Failures

  • Charlottesville and George Floyd
    • Trump blamed “many sides” for the violence at the rally
    • Trump claimed there were “very fine people on both sides” of a conflict between people protesting the death of George Floyd and counter protests made up largely of white supremacists and KKK members
    • Trump took criticism from both Democrats and Republicans including staunch supporter Lindsey Graham
       
  • America’s Global Image
    • American’s global image has declined significantly under Trump
    • Trump repeatedly insulted key US allies while cozying up to dictators
    • Trump pulled the US out of key international agreements like the Paris climate accords
    • Surveys show the majority of citizens from 32 different countries have an overall lack of confidence in Trump to do the right thing on world affairs
    • Trumps handling of the Coronavirus pandemic has left the US embarrassed on the world stage and create a void in global leadership that China has rushed to fill
       
  • Immigration
    • Trump has been accused of human-rights abuses and violating international law by the UN for his treatment of undocumented immigrants
    • Trump policies have led to the separation of at least 5,500 families and saw children placed in cages for the world to see
    • 545 children still are left separated from their parents
    • President of the American Academy of Pediatrics labeled Trump’s polices “nothing less than government-sanctioned child abuse”
       
  • Iran, Syria, Afghanistan
    • Trump’s decision to withdraw the US from the 2015 Iran nuclear deal induced chaos throughout the middle east
    • It remains one of Trump’s most unpopular decisions in the global arena
    • Trump has failed to thwart Iran’s aggressive behavior through his maximum pressure campaign
    • Trump exacerbated the situation by ordering the killing of Iran’s top general Qassem Soleimani
    • Iran has since abandoned the Nuclear deal and is actively working towards nuclear weapons
    • Trump pulled US troops out of Syria, effectively abandoning US-allied Kurdish forces
    • The withdraw induced a humanitarian crisis in the region and created a security vacuum that Russia, Irian and accused war criminal Syrian President Bashar al-Assad benefited from
    • Trump started a massive pull out of US troops from Afghanistan essentially surrendering the country once again to the Taliban
    • Trump dismissed published reports that Russia payed bounties to Taliban linked militants to kill US troops
       
  • Repeal/Replace of Obamacare
    • Trump lost a vote for a full congressional appeal
    • Trump has dismantled parts of the law including roll backs on tax penalties for those not enrolled in healthcare
    • Trump has failed to offer anything close to a replacement for the Affordable Care act despite repeated promises to do so
       
  • Impeachment (Twice)
    • Trump is the first US President to be Impeached twice while in office
    • Trump’s first impeachment was for abuse of power when he attempted to solicit outside foreign interference in a US election
    • Trump withheld $400 million in congressionally approved military aid from the Ukraine to pressure them into investigating Joe Biden’s son for corruption
    • His second impeachment revolved around his attempt to incite an insurrection of his supporters when they stormed and breached the US Capitol in an attempt to stop the certification of the 2020 election
       
  • COVID-19 pandemic
    • Trump’s handling of COVID-19 will likely go down as one of the biggest disasters in US history
    • Over 400,00 American’s have died on Trump’s watch
    • Trump admittedly downplayed the virus and later ignored it completely as he struggled with his election loss
    • More us citizens have died of COVID than all US soldiers killed in combat in every war since 1945
    • Trump repeatedly downplayed the virus
    • Trump contradicted top public-health experters, flouting recommendations from his advisors and his own White House coronavirus task force
    • Trump has refused to accept responsibility for the pandemic, blaming China instead
        
  • The US Economy
    • Trump took credit for a robust economy he inherited when it took office which had shown nearly 10 years of steady growth prior to his election
    • The US now faces one of the worse economic crises in history linked to his disastrous response to the COVID-19 pandemic
    • Over 22 million jobs were lost
    • Unemployment is at 7.9%, more than double the 3.4% pre-pandemic
    • The US national debt is at the highest levels since World War II
    • US Economic growth will average just above 0% for Trumps first term
        
  • Damaging Democracy
    • Trump consistently eroded democratic norms during his tenure
    • Trumps constant attack on the media led UN experts to warn of raised risk of violence against journalists
    • He’s threatened to deploy US troops to American cities and demanded poll workers stop counting ballots to sway the election in his favor
    • Trumps constant dissemination of disinformation on the electoral process have led historians to draw parallels between him and Benito Mussolini
    • Trump has refused to accept the clear cut results of the election and failed to provide any substantial prove to his claims for election fraud
    • The president is charged with inciting insurrection at a rally and attempting to prevent the peaceful transfer of power

[AD2: Teens] (1 minute)

  • [SEGMENT 3: The Future/Solutions to the issues] (10-15 minutes)
     

The Lasting Effects of Donald Trump
 

  • The Judiciary and the Supreme Court
     
  • Foreign affairs and allies
     
  • The Economy and Taxes
     
  • Immigration
     
  • COVID Pandemic
     
  • The Presidency

[AD3: Entertainment] (1 minute)

  • [SEGMENT 4: The Future/Solutions to the issues] (10-15 minutes)
     
    • A future under Joe Biden
       
      • Unity
          
      • Handling of COVID
          
      • Rebuilding alliances
          
      • Erasing the legacy of Trump
          
      • Likelyhood of a second term
          
      • Chances of success

[TRANSITION]

  • [CLOSE]
    • Final thoughts/summary COHOST

[OUTRO AND CREDITS]

Transcription

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welcome to insights into tomorrow this

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is episode 11

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the trump legacy i’m your host joseph

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whalen

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and my co-host sam whelan how you doing

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today sam doing good it’s been a

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little bit of a while since we’ve done a

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podcast but uh looking forward to

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another great show

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yeah yeah we took a little time off over

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the holidays to redo the studio and so

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forth

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uh in the process we uh have a new

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president

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um so i thought it would be interesting

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uh we had originally discussed

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um doing a a podcast on

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the insurrection on january 6

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and i thought that was probably while it

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was a worthwhile topic it might

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be a little too focused i think

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it would be probably more interesting

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and more helpful to look at the

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trump legacy in a more general sense

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i don’t want to i’m trying trying

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trying to be as fair and impartial as

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possible i don’t want to just look at

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the negative stuff

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right from trump and i and i think the

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interaction reflects very poorly on him

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so today we’re going to look at what

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some of his

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notable accomplishments were over the

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last four years

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we’ll look at some of some of his

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failures

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and then we’ll have kind of an open

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discussion about

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what the lasting effects of donald trump

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on

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the u.s the world the presidency and so

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forth are

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and then just a candid talk about where

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we think the future is

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uh under joe biden for the next four

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years

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so uh ready to get into it all right

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so i wasn’t even gonna do the plugs

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because i think this is gonna be a long

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podcast we’ll do the plugs at the end of

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the show

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um so um notable accomplishments i kind

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of broke these down into a couple of

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key ones that that came out of the the

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whitehouse.gov website prior to the

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changeover

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and the first one and one that i think

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really is probably the biggest

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is the reshaping of the federal

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judiciary

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so everyone knows that trump appointed

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three

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supreme court justices that are life

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terms

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but he also appointed 220 judges

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to lower courts which are all lifetime

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appointments as well

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25 percent of u.s circuit court judges

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were trump

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that are in place today were trump

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nominees

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and trump’s influence as a result of

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that will live on through the judiciary

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for the foreseeable future

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do you think that is a a good thing

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a bad thing a indifferent thing what are

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your thoughts

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i think it depends on on what these

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judges are going to be ruling on in the

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coming years

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and especially since it’s impressive as

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a president to be able to do that in

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only four years to

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appoint that many judges and three

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supreme court justices as well

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um so whether or not they’re going to

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the judges will

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you know rule on certain things in the

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coming years it’s still

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um it’s something that’ll be in a

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history book looking back at the

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presidency of

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of one of his accomplishments absolutely

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and and i think the one thing that we’ve

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seen so far is the

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three supreme court justices did not tip

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the balance of power

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in the supreme court at this point in

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time given the number of cases that

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trump brought to the supreme court

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during the election phase that did not

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go in his favor

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so i think if nothing else the

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impartiality

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of the supreme court seems to still be

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intact which is a good thing

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the next thing that we look at is

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space force

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space force is the first new branch of

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the us military since the u.s air force

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was created

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from the army air corps after world war

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ii

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it’s supposed to be a more centralized

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version of

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the military missions in space now

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that’s not fighting aliens or anything

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like that

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what they do is they handle

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satellite surveillance they handle all

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the military satellites that

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they’re responsible for the gps system

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that’s

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both civilian and military use

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um they’re monitoring

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the various debris that’s in space to

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make sure that

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it’s not dangerous to future missions

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what do you think do you think like i

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mean i’ll be honest with you when i

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heard that we were creating space force

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i couldn’t help but chuckle

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and and i wasn’t the only one because

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this spawned a steve carell

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comedy series you know that came out of

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this what are your thoughts on space

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force

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well i think uh space exploration is

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important

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um and i know over the years the public

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has sort of waned away from that and

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there’s not as much interest as there

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was like in the 80s and 90s and stuff

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um i do think if space force is going to

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actually do something

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and it’s not just a dumping ground for

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money like a lot of other

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of these types of programs you know they

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spend a lot of money especially when it

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comes to the military there’s a lot of

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money put into that

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but i think if they do monitor things

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like the debris around the earth which

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is getting

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really like it’s becoming a real problem

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um and satellites and things like that i

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think that’s a good start

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um and maybe they’ll segue into actual

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exploration missions

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uh in the future hopefully yeah we don’t

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really know what direction they’re going

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in right now they really inherited a lot

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of things that the air force had already

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been doing

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they’re not doing exploration at this

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point that is still the domain of nasa

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but you know we have missions up there

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you have an international space station

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up there that

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occasionally needs to be moved so it

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doesn’t get hit by a

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refrigerator refrigerator-sized piece of

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debris that brings it down

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yeah that’s really what they’re working

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towards and you also have private

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companies like um

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spacex that are going a lot more in you

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know they have a little bit more of a

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budget than nasa does for the funding

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so they’re able to do a lot more

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missions into space sure sure yeah in

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fact

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speaking of space junk one of the things

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that’s really starting to crowd

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the low earth orbit are these new

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uh internet enabled satellites

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you know spacex elon musk is putting a

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huge

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constellation of satellites some 400 or

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500 satellites up there

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all of which are moving obstacles that

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are flying at 17

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500 miles an hour so

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it’s not a small job monitoring that

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stuff for safety

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what’s the next thing that we have uh so

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next up we have the tax reform

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uh was the biggest overhaul of the

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nation’s tax code in three decades

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it slashed corporate tax rates from 35

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to 21

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some credits argue it was a windfall for

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massive corporations

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at the expense of the middle class

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administration officials predicted gdp

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boost by three to six percent

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now we haven’t seen the gdp boost that

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they expected so far

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however i can say at least in my

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experience

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that slashing of the corporate tax was

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enough of an incentive for my company to

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give more back to its employees

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i think my company is an exception to

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that rule i think

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a lot of companies take that as a

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windfall and they

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absorb the profit themselves this kind

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of goes back to the early 80s with

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reagan

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economics of trickle-down economics

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where you know give the rich people more

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money and then it’ll trickle down to

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other people

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which i don’t think that worked then did

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that has never worked in the history of

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mankind actually

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turns out the rich just get richer you

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don’t get rich by spending

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that’s for sure so the tax reforms

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definitely are there

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a lot of those went in place before the

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kovid

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pandemic happened and i think a lot of

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the benefits that happened from that tax

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reform

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are largely wiped out because of the

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debt the company

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the country has incurred as a result of

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a lot of these

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covid relief packages yeah but that tax

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plan that tax

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that corporate tax rate is going to stay

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in place until the new administration

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could put something together to overturn

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it so it’s something to think about

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that’s correct yeah so the benefits will

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still be there for a lot of that

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uh let’s talk about the the reform of

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the justice system a little bit

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so he one of the things that that trump

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tried to do

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was address the mass carcera

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incarceration

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in the federal prisons uh for

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several decades they’ve been severely

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overpopulated

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a lot of it had to do with

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lower level drug arrests for

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minor infractions

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but he also overhauled the federal

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sentencing

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to reduce the minimum mandatory

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sentences and that’s that’s kind of a

0:10:10.959,0:10:14.320
concept that a lot of people aren’t

0:10:12.320,0:10:16.959
familiar with is that

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the federal guidelines for sentencing

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for just about every crime out there

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there’s a minimum amount of time that

0:10:22.720,0:10:27.760
you consent in someone

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and even if it’s an insignificant

0:10:27.760,0:10:31.680
issue but you have to sentence someone

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they have to get that minimum amount of

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time

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and that was largely done to try to

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preserve fairness in

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the penal system itself so you couldn’t

0:10:38.959,0:10:42.640
have people buying judges off and stuff

0:10:41.040,0:10:44.399
like that

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so one of the things that trump did do

0:10:44.399,0:10:48.800
was he reduced those minimum sentences

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so that even though you may be going

0:10:48.800,0:10:53.200
into jail for these offenses you’re

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getting out sooner

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he also tried to shift focus from

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punishment to rehabilitation and or job

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training opportunities

0:11:01.600,0:11:04.640
one of the problems that

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convicted felons have when they get out

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of prison

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is they lack the skills to to get

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jobs and employment as a result they

0:11:14.640,0:11:19.440
become become a burden on society

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so the focus kind of shifted to try to

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prepare these

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individuals to get back into the

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workforce and become

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producing members of society again

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and what’s the last thing that we have

0:11:28.560,0:11:32.800
to talk about for his accomplishments

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uh defeating the isis caliphate trump

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has falsely claimed isis is totally

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defeated

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uh though territory has been lost there

0:11:37.279,0:11:42.000
are still an estimated 18

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000 fighters uh between iraq and syria

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the us was successful in killing isis

0:11:43.760,0:11:46.480
leader um

0:11:45.279,0:11:50.880
probably gonna pronounce his name wrong

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abu bakar al baghdadi i apologize if uh

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we’ll go with that yeah so yeah i mean

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it’s no different than when

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george bush landed on the aircraft

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carrier with the big giant banner and

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said mission accomplished

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progress has been made more progress has

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been claimed and has been made

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i think at this point in time

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isis is lacking territory but they’re

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not lacking

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support they’re getting support through

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other countries like syria and

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iraq and iran so they’re being funded by

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these countries but they might not have

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the

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territory that they once had yeah i

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think conflicts like this in this

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in this area of the world are always

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going to be this messy and they have

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been since

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the u.s began to get involved way back

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in the 70s and 80s it’s always been

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a a difficult uh not war but difficult

0:12:46.480,0:12:48.639
conflict to manage whether through proxy

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or

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through direct involvement from the us

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and i think that this

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is no different i think and it’s going

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to continue to be this way because

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we just it’s it’s too difficult or

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something for us to manage

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and certainly not fix sure yeah and i

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agree 100

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one of the things that i didn’t put in

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here that that was related to this was

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the draw down on troops

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in iraq and afghanistan which donald

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trump has

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made significant progress there he had

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wanted to get us out of that area

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completely

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but because of the sensitive nature of

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that territory

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we couldn’t pull out entirely yeah but

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the number of peop

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number of troops that are in that area

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have been reduced

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ironically enough to the point that we

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had more people in washington more

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soldiers in washington for the

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inauguration than we had in afghanistan

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wow yeah it’s difficult because i’m

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obviously not like a general or anything

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but it seems like we make the progress

0:13:42.800,0:13:45.040
with the troops and then the second the

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troops are gone

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all that progress is lost sometimes

0:13:46.720,0:13:50.639
overnight so it’s a difficult call

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it’s easy to say we’re going to get

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everybody out of here but it’s a sticky

0:13:52.480,0:13:55.680
situation it’s not that easy

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yeah and when you think about it you

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figure this is the longest war

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the united states has ever been involved

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you in the only the closest one to this

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was vietnam which was roughly 10

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12 years but i figure we’ve been

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fighting this war

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in that territory this war on terror

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since

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september 11th attacks yeah and we could

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we could probably do a whole show

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comparing that to vietnam i mean they’re

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somewhat similar in terms of

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uh a difficult terrain um the language

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barriers things like that

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gorilla tactics and all that it’s it’s

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it is just a mess

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so that’s some of the notable

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accomplishments that trump had in office

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let’s take a break we’ll come back and

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we’ll talk about some of the failures

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that

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i think a lot of people have focused on

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welcome back to insights into tomorrow

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today we are talking about

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uh the legacy of donald trump we just

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went over some of his notable

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accomplishments

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i think it’s prudent for us to talk

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about some of his

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failures at this point in time so the

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first one that i have here

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is the incident in charlottesville

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related to george floyd so

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during this entire process trump

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really blamed quote many sides for the

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violence

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uh at the rally for george floyd

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and at the time he claimed that there

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were quote very fine people on both

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sides

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one side being the black lives matter

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group

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who were protesting the death of george

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floyd

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the other side being made up largely of

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white supremacists in the kkk

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this statement itself really stirred up

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a lot of a bit of a hornet’s nest here

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when he was describing

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these white supremacists as very fine

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people

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and he took criticism from both

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democrats and republicans

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including traditionally staunch

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supporters like lindsey graham

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what are your thoughts on on this

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particular failure of

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trump’s i think it it’s it seems like

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such a simple thing right you see

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white supremacists and kkk leaders on

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one side

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you just have to condemn them and he

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couldn’t do it and he was

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directly asked i remember multiple times

0:17:17.679,0:17:21.199
by reporters to just condemn them

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and he wouldn’t do it and it makes you

0:17:21.199,0:17:25.679
wonder why that is

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and and what is going through his mind

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and his other

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his uh administration’s mind why they he

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simply would not come out and condemn

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them and you saw that again

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recently with the uh interaction at the

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capitol

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where he said go home we love you very

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kind words to people that were

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attempting to storm and succeeded in

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storming the capitol building

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and it’s it’s it just makes you wonder

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yeah well and the thing is when this

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happened there was a a lot of research

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that came out

0:17:51.039,0:17:54.880
about trump’s history and the trump

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family history

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and information came out at this time

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that his father

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was a member of the kkk he was arrested

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in the early part of the 20th century at

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a kkk

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rally for crimes that were committed at

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the time

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so it was very disturbing to see this

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side of a president come out

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where he was openly endorsing

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white supremacists and that was a

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pattern of

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repeated alarmist type

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behavior that we saw the last at least

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two years of his presidency where

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we’ve had these issues what was the next

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thing that that we’re pointing out here

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uh so we’re taking a look at america’s

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global image under the trump presidency

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uh america’s global image has declined

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significantly under trump i think that

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anybody that reviews the last four years

0:18:45.520,0:18:49.120
can probably put that together

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uh trump repeatedly insulted key u.s

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allies while cozying up to dictators

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trump pulled the us out of key

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international agreements like the paris

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climate accords

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uh surveys show the majority of citizens

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from 32 different countries

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have an overall lack of confidence in

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trump to do the right thing on world

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affairs

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and finally trump’s handling of the

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chronovirus pandemic has left the us

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embarrassed on the world stage

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and created a void in global leadership

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that china is rushing to fill in

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currently

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yeah i mean he left us really in a bit

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of a predicament

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yeah so much so that

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immediately after the election before

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the results were certified

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you had uh allied nations that were

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reaching out to

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joe biden to congratulate him on the win

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before it was even official

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i’m not sure

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what the long-term implications of that

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are because i think a lot of the damages

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he did at least as far as our allies go

0:19:47.360,0:19:52.160
are things that can be built back fairly

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quickly with him out of office my

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concern centered around

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more the relationships that he had with

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the adversaries of the united states

0:20:01.679,0:20:05.600
like the pew

0:20:02.320,0:20:08.080
the putins and north korea

0:20:05.600,0:20:09.120
and and so forth you know i mean he

0:20:08.080,0:20:11.760
really

0:20:09.120,0:20:12.720
took the country in a direction that it

0:20:11.760,0:20:14.480
never went

0:20:12.720,0:20:16.799
in the past what are your thoughts yeah

0:20:14.480,0:20:18.559
i mean there’s multiple instances of him

0:20:16.799,0:20:20.080
talking about how he admires vladimir

0:20:18.559,0:20:23.360
putin and things like that

0:20:20.080,0:20:25.120
and it’s not a great look right i mean

0:20:23.360,0:20:26.720
on paper americans supposed to be like

0:20:25.120,0:20:28.159
this bastion of freedom

0:20:26.720,0:20:30.000
which obviously in practice is not

0:20:28.159,0:20:32.000
necessarily the case but when you’re on

0:20:30.000,0:20:34.000
the world stage cozying up with

0:20:32.000,0:20:36.159
known dictators borderline admitted

0:20:34.000,0:20:37.679
dictators who have

0:20:36.159,0:20:39.600
of course never been proven but have you

0:20:37.679,0:20:40.480
know eliminated political rivals through

0:20:39.600,0:20:42.880
you know

0:20:40.480,0:20:43.840
various means or uh subjugating their

0:20:42.880,0:20:45.440
own people

0:20:43.840,0:20:48.159
when you see the leader of the free

0:20:45.440,0:20:49.039
world being friendly with them it it

0:20:48.159,0:20:50.720
sends a

0:20:49.039,0:20:52.480
a disturbing message to other countries

0:20:50.720,0:20:53.039
not to mention the people of america as

0:20:52.480,0:20:54.960
well

0:20:53.039,0:20:56.799
yeah absolutely it’s kind of scary when

0:20:54.960,0:20:58.159
we get to that point

0:20:56.799,0:20:59.840
so the next thing we talk about is

0:20:58.159,0:21:01.360
immigration which is one of the things

0:20:59.840,0:21:04.880
that donald trump

0:21:01.360,0:21:06.799
had campaigned on his promise to build

0:21:04.880,0:21:09.600
the wall to stop illegal immigration

0:21:06.799,0:21:11.440
coming in to deport the people that were

0:21:09.600,0:21:13.679
in the country already that shouldn’t

0:21:11.440,0:21:15.840
have been here in his opinion

0:21:13.679,0:21:17.520
you know trump has been accused of human

0:21:15.840,0:21:20.159
rights abuses in violating

0:21:17.520,0:21:22.720
international law by the u.n for his

0:21:20.159,0:21:24.480
treatment of undocumented immigrants

0:21:22.720,0:21:26.320
i couldn’t tell you the last time an

0:21:24.480,0:21:28.880
american president was accused of human

0:21:26.320,0:21:31.039
rights violations

0:21:28.880,0:21:32.720
trump policies had led to the separation

0:21:31.039,0:21:36.080
of at least 5

0:21:32.720,0:21:37.760
500 families and saw children placed in

0:21:36.080,0:21:39.679
cages for the world to see which was

0:21:37.760,0:21:44.280
another embarrassing moment

0:21:39.679,0:21:47.039
that the press really hammered him on

0:21:44.280,0:21:48.640
445 of those children still are left

0:21:47.039,0:21:50.240
separated from their parents so

0:21:48.640,0:21:52.000
it’s a continuing problem where they

0:21:50.240,0:21:53.600
can’t find these parents for the

0:21:52.000,0:21:55.280
children

0:21:53.600,0:21:57.679
the president of the american academy

0:21:55.280,0:22:00.559
for pediatrics labeled trump’s policies

0:21:57.679,0:22:02.080
nothing less than government-sanctioned

0:22:00.559,0:22:05.919
child abuse

0:22:02.080,0:22:07.360
yikes what are your thoughts on his

0:22:05.919,0:22:08.640
immigration policy i mean we’ve got a

0:22:07.360,0:22:10.320
lot of the wall done

0:22:08.640,0:22:12.000
right so is that a good thing or a bad

0:22:10.320,0:22:13.919
thing i i don’t

0:22:12.000,0:22:15.200
i don’t think the wall was a great idea

0:22:13.919,0:22:16.559
i mean it it

0:22:15.200,0:22:18.640
for people that think that we should

0:22:16.559,0:22:21.760
take a strong stance on immigration

0:22:18.640,0:22:24.080
i think it’s a a very good physical

0:22:21.760,0:22:26.159
thing to see but i think in practice i

0:22:24.080,0:22:28.080
don’t know that the wall really works

0:22:26.159,0:22:29.760
and not to mention we speaking back to

0:22:28.080,0:22:31.200
the ice situation

0:22:29.760,0:22:33.360
um we were gonna we actually talked

0:22:31.200,0:22:35.440
about doing a whole episode on ice

0:22:33.360,0:22:36.880
um but doing the research we found it

0:22:35.440,0:22:37.600
would be better to just lump it in with

0:22:36.880,0:22:40.640
this

0:22:37.600,0:22:43.520
but the fact that 545 children

0:22:40.640,0:22:45.200
don’t have their parents or any real

0:22:43.520,0:22:48.480
person to take care of them still

0:22:45.200,0:22:49.679
it and for this long is horrifying and

0:22:48.480,0:22:50.240
the fact that it’s just it’s still

0:22:49.679,0:22:52.799
happening

0:22:50.240,0:22:54.640
yeah yeah and and you know trump tried

0:22:52.799,0:22:56.240
to defend his actions by claiming that a

0:22:54.640,0:22:57.760
lot of these children

0:22:56.240,0:23:00.000
were not brought over by their parents

0:22:57.760,0:23:03.280
they were being brought over by

0:23:00.000,0:23:04.720
criminals and and bules and

0:23:03.280,0:23:06.720
you know people that were trying to get

0:23:04.720,0:23:10.640
into the country illegally

0:23:06.720,0:23:12.400
and using the children as a means to get

0:23:10.640,0:23:14.960
into the country

0:23:12.400,0:23:15.840
and there just wasn’t any facts to back

0:23:14.960,0:23:19.200
that

0:23:15.840,0:23:20.799
that claim up as with a lot of the

0:23:19.200,0:23:21.840
things that we deal with with trump

0:23:20.799,0:23:24.080
there’s a there’s a lot of

0:23:21.840,0:23:25.440
misinformation

0:23:24.080,0:23:27.520
there’s a lot of what the trump

0:23:25.440,0:23:29.919
administration has labeled alternative

0:23:27.520,0:23:29.919
facts

0:23:30.000,0:23:37.039
and i think you have a difficulty

0:23:34.000,0:23:39.200
in sifting through this

0:23:37.039,0:23:41.600
there’s so much misinformation thrown

0:23:39.200,0:23:44.080
out about these things

0:23:41.600,0:23:45.840
that it takes an effort to sift through

0:23:44.080,0:23:48.240
that that you shouldn’t have to make

0:23:45.840,0:23:49.440
such an effort to do yeah i think that i

0:23:48.240,0:23:50.159
mean we’ll probably touch on it more

0:23:49.440,0:23:51.440
later

0:23:50.159,0:23:54.080
in our concluding thoughts but i think

0:23:51.440,0:23:56.880
that’s part of the plan is to

0:23:54.080,0:23:57.919
put as much uh false things out there

0:23:56.880,0:23:59.120
that you question what is

0:23:57.919,0:24:00.320
real and what is true and then from

0:23:59.120,0:24:02.480
there you can make your reality whatever

0:24:00.320,0:24:03.760
you want right

0:24:02.480,0:24:05.840
so what was the next thing that we’re

0:24:03.760,0:24:08.000
going to ding him on here uh so

0:24:05.840,0:24:09.279
the handling of iran syrian afghanistan

0:24:08.000,0:24:11.840
we trust a little bit on this

0:24:09.279,0:24:13.200
uh with the troop withdrawals uh trump’s

0:24:11.840,0:24:15.279
decision to withdraw from the us from

0:24:13.200,0:24:18.000
the 2015 iran nuclear deal

0:24:15.279,0:24:19.840
induced chaos throughout the middle east

0:24:18.000,0:24:20.400
it remains one of trump’s most unpopular

0:24:19.840,0:24:22.960
decisions

0:24:20.400,0:24:24.480
in the global arena trump has failed to

0:24:22.960,0:24:26.799
thwart iran’s aggressive behavior

0:24:24.480,0:24:28.559
through his maximum pressure campaign

0:24:26.799,0:24:30.080
uh he exacerbated the situation by

0:24:28.559,0:24:30.720
ordering the killing of iran’s top

0:24:30.080,0:24:32.400
general

0:24:30.720,0:24:35.520
another name i’m gonna probably

0:24:32.400,0:24:37.279
mispronounce uh kasim suleimani

0:24:35.520,0:24:38.400
uh which was huge when it happened i

0:24:37.279,0:24:39.520
remember we talked about it on one of

0:24:38.400,0:24:42.640
the previous shows

0:24:39.520,0:24:44.159
um about how insane that was and it’s

0:24:42.640,0:24:45.279
almost like we forgot it happened but

0:24:44.159,0:24:46.080
here it is again looking back at

0:24:45.279,0:24:47.760
everything

0:24:46.080,0:24:49.520
uh iran has since abandoned the nuclear

0:24:47.760,0:24:50.559
deal and is actively working towards

0:24:49.520,0:24:52.559
nuclear weapons

0:24:50.559,0:24:53.919
uh again trump pulled us troops out of

0:24:52.559,0:24:56.480
syria uh

0:24:53.919,0:24:57.520
abandoning u.s allied kurdish forces i

0:24:56.480,0:24:59.840
remember that was

0:24:57.520,0:25:01.679
extremely controversial to too

0:24:59.840,0:25:03.600
especially with i saw a lot of veterans

0:25:01.679,0:25:04.880
on twitter like talking about that one

0:25:03.600,0:25:06.240
that happened about how that was

0:25:04.880,0:25:08.240
wrong to do because you left these

0:25:06.240,0:25:10.080
people hanging to dry

0:25:08.240,0:25:11.760
uh the withdrawal induced a humanitarian

0:25:10.080,0:25:14.320
crisis in the region and

0:25:11.760,0:25:15.919
the security vacuum that russia iran and

0:25:14.320,0:25:18.640
accused war criminal syrian president

0:25:15.919,0:25:20.320
bashir al-assad benefited from

0:25:18.640,0:25:22.240
trump started a massive pull out of u.s

0:25:20.320,0:25:23.760
troops from afghanistan essentially

0:25:22.240,0:25:24.960
surrendering the country once again to

0:25:23.760,0:25:27.360
the taliban

0:25:24.960,0:25:28.960
and finally trump dismissed dismissed

0:25:27.360,0:25:30.880
published reports that russia paid

0:25:28.960,0:25:32.400
bounties to taliban like militants

0:25:30.880,0:25:34.320
to kill us troops so we’re getting a

0:25:32.400,0:25:35.919
little bit of the cozying up with

0:25:34.320,0:25:36.960
dictators again in this in this section

0:25:35.919,0:25:39.679
as well

0:25:36.960,0:25:40.799
and overall it’s it’s not a great look

0:25:39.679,0:25:43.279
yeah now and if you

0:25:40.799,0:25:44.480
look you know at the gr at the big

0:25:43.279,0:25:48.000
picture

0:25:44.480,0:25:48.559
of weakening our position in the middle

0:25:48.000,0:25:50.960
east

0:25:48.559,0:25:51.919
by all these troop pullouts by pulling

0:25:50.960,0:25:54.480
out of the the

0:25:51.919,0:25:56.080
iran nuclear deal which is just going to

0:25:54.480,0:26:00.159
incite additional chaos

0:25:56.080,0:26:04.240
it’s going to rile the israelis

0:26:00.159,0:26:06.240
who won’t withstand who won’t stand for

0:26:04.240,0:26:08.400
iraq having nuclear weapons so they’re

0:26:06.240,0:26:11.120
going to act unilaterally on their own

0:26:08.400,0:26:12.960
if we do not maintain a coalition in the

0:26:11.120,0:26:14.960
area

0:26:12.960,0:26:16.320
you’re basically lighting the fuse on a

0:26:14.960,0:26:19.279
powder kick

0:26:16.320,0:26:22.880
and i i look at what he did and i can’t

0:26:19.279,0:26:24.880
fathom why you would have done that

0:26:22.880,0:26:26.320
he claims that he doesn’t want america

0:26:24.880,0:26:29.600
tied up in these

0:26:26.320,0:26:31.600
long-term wars but we’re almost like the

0:26:29.600,0:26:33.279
control rod in the nuclear reactor there

0:26:31.600,0:26:34.640
and if you pull that control rod out the

0:26:33.279,0:26:36.400
nuclear reactor is going to

0:26:34.640,0:26:37.679
uh melt down yeah it’s kind of like what

0:26:36.400,0:26:38.000
we talked about before like it’s it’s

0:26:37.679,0:26:39.919
easy

0:26:38.000,0:26:42.080
to say i don’t want america involved in

0:26:39.919,0:26:43.440
these situations but when you’ve got

0:26:42.080,0:26:45.600
nuclear deals signed with these

0:26:43.440,0:26:47.120
countries that’s more than just a war

0:26:45.600,0:26:48.640
there’s there’s larger implications

0:26:47.120,0:26:52.159
there on both the world stage

0:26:48.640,0:26:53.840
and for that local area and it’s uh

0:26:52.159,0:26:55.840
like you said it’s it’s lighting a fuse

0:26:53.840,0:26:56.799
that i guess the new administration’s

0:26:55.840,0:26:58.640
gonna have to deal with

0:26:56.799,0:27:00.320
yeah and and it’s a it’s a headache you

0:26:58.640,0:27:02.480
know i mean not only is it weakening the

0:27:00.320,0:27:05.679
us position and our allies position

0:27:02.480,0:27:08.159
in the region you’re you’re directly

0:27:05.679,0:27:11.039
strengthening our adversary’s position

0:27:08.159,0:27:11.760
at the same time which makes you wonder

0:27:11.039,0:27:15.520
what team

0:27:11.760,0:27:15.520
trump was really playing for at the time

0:27:16.400,0:27:20.080
so the next big one that that trump has

0:27:19.440,0:27:24.320
been trying

0:27:20.080,0:27:25.200
to take care of since day one was the

0:27:24.320,0:27:28.320
repeal

0:27:25.200,0:27:30.399
and the replacement of obamacare

0:27:28.320,0:27:32.480
trump lost the vote for a full

0:27:30.399,0:27:35.840
congressional appeal

0:27:32.480,0:27:35.840
uh thanks to at the time

0:27:39.520,0:27:43.279
where’s better ginsburg no senator

0:27:42.080,0:27:45.200
mccain oh

0:27:43.279,0:27:47.440
that was that was like one of the great

0:27:45.200,0:27:50.240
acts of defines that senator mccain

0:27:47.440,0:27:52.399
had against donald trump was to to turn

0:27:50.240,0:27:54.559
that vote down

0:27:52.399,0:27:58.080
he’s managed to dismantle parts of it

0:27:54.559,0:27:59.440
including the rollbacks on tax penalties

0:27:58.080,0:28:01.600
for those that are not enrolled in

0:27:59.440,0:28:05.200
health care

0:28:01.600,0:28:08.559
but in the meantime he’s failed

0:28:05.200,0:28:10.320
to offer anything close to a replacement

0:28:08.559,0:28:12.240
he’s been questioned several times on

0:28:10.320,0:28:12.559
this and his statement has been oh it’s

0:28:12.240,0:28:14.000
well

0:28:12.559,0:28:16.080
it’s it’s ready we’re going to roll it

0:28:14.000,0:28:17.919
out in a couple of weeks

0:28:16.080,0:28:20.559
a couple of weeks never got here he

0:28:17.919,0:28:22.640
never rolled out a replacement for it

0:28:20.559,0:28:24.640
the supreme court as a result of that

0:28:22.640,0:28:26.240
did not allow it to be

0:28:24.640,0:28:28.080
repealed because there wasn’t a

0:28:26.240,0:28:31.279
replacement for it

0:28:28.080,0:28:33.679
but he’s weakened it significantly

0:28:31.279,0:28:34.720
and it this is another problem that he’s

0:28:33.679,0:28:36.159
generated that

0:28:34.720,0:28:37.919
the current administration the new

0:28:36.159,0:28:38.480
administration is going to have to deal

0:28:37.919,0:28:40.640
with

0:28:38.480,0:28:41.520
yeah i’m not sure if if the biden team

0:28:40.640,0:28:43.279
has said

0:28:41.520,0:28:44.640
what their plans are to deal with this

0:28:43.279,0:28:45.279
but you’d imagine they’re probably just

0:28:44.640,0:28:48.080
going to

0:28:45.279,0:28:49.120
reinforce it and kind of build back up

0:28:48.080,0:28:51.279
where it was

0:28:49.120,0:28:52.480
you have to you have to at least put in

0:28:51.279,0:28:54.000
the stuff that was

0:28:52.480,0:28:56.080
that was pulled up at this point because

0:28:54.000,0:28:59.120
it’s kind of silly to not have these in

0:28:56.080,0:29:00.399
and it’s unfortunate for people that

0:28:59.120,0:29:01.840
because this was one of his big things

0:29:00.399,0:29:02.559
when he was running for president was

0:29:01.840,0:29:04.559
that he was going to

0:29:02.559,0:29:05.919
get rid of obamacare and obamacare and

0:29:04.559,0:29:07.440
put something new into place

0:29:05.919,0:29:09.440
it’s unfortunate that all these people

0:29:07.440,0:29:11.840
were that voted for him or promised that

0:29:09.440,0:29:13.520
and unfortunately simply never got it

0:29:11.840,0:29:14.640
well and the ultimate irony is

0:29:13.520,0:29:16.159
that he didn’t want to get rid of

0:29:14.640,0:29:17.840
obamacare he wanted to get rid of

0:29:16.159,0:29:20.640
obama’s legacy

0:29:17.840,0:29:22.080
and obamacare being a large part of that

0:29:20.640,0:29:24.399
legacy was one of the things that he

0:29:22.080,0:29:26.320
targeted

0:29:24.399,0:29:28.720
what’s the next thing we have uh so we

0:29:26.320,0:29:30.080
have the uh twice impeachment

0:29:28.720,0:29:32.159
uh this has been obviously in the news

0:29:30.080,0:29:33.600
recently uh trump is the first u.s

0:29:32.159,0:29:34.320
president to be impeached twice while in

0:29:33.600,0:29:36.000
office

0:29:34.320,0:29:37.679
uh trump’s first impeachment was for

0:29:36.000,0:29:39.039
abuse of power when he attempted to

0:29:37.679,0:29:41.840
solicit outside foreign

0:29:39.039,0:29:42.320
interference in a us election i believe

0:29:41.840,0:29:44.480
that was

0:29:42.320,0:29:45.919
ukraine correct correct uh trump

0:29:44.480,0:29:47.440
withheld 400 million dollars in

0:29:45.919,0:29:48.960
congressionally approved military aid

0:29:47.440,0:29:50.559
from the ukraine to pressure them into

0:29:48.960,0:29:51.360
investigating joe biden’s son for

0:29:50.559,0:29:52.880
corruption

0:29:51.360,0:29:54.960
his second impeachment revolved around

0:29:52.880,0:29:56.559
his attempt to incite an insurrection

0:29:54.960,0:29:58.960
of his supporters when they stormed and

0:29:56.559,0:30:00.080
breached the us capital in an attempt to

0:29:58.960,0:30:03.279
stop the certification

0:30:00.080,0:30:03.279
of the 2020 election

0:30:03.840,0:30:08.320
yeah we’re not talking about flimsy

0:30:06.559,0:30:08.880
things here we’re literally talking

0:30:08.320,0:30:11.840
about

0:30:08.880,0:30:14.559
two treasonous acts that the president

0:30:11.840,0:30:16.799
of the united states who’s sworn to

0:30:14.559,0:30:18.000
uphold the constitution has been accused

0:30:16.799,0:30:20.399
of

0:30:18.000,0:30:21.360
now that the first impeachment that we

0:30:20.399,0:30:22.960
had

0:30:21.360,0:30:24.880
he was not found guilty he was not

0:30:22.960,0:30:27.520
convicted of the impeachment

0:30:24.880,0:30:28.399
but that was largely because the senate

0:30:27.520,0:30:30.080
was

0:30:28.399,0:30:31.679
controlled majority of the senate was

0:30:30.080,0:30:33.200
controlled by the republicans at the

0:30:31.679,0:30:36.799
time

0:30:33.200,0:30:39.679
who for whatever reason whether it was

0:30:36.799,0:30:41.039
fear of repercussions or what uh would

0:30:39.679,0:30:42.880
not go against

0:30:41.039,0:30:44.640
donald trump despite the overwhelming

0:30:42.880,0:30:47.360
evidence

0:30:44.640,0:30:49.440
you know the large accusation in that

0:30:47.360,0:30:51.360
first impeachment was that he solicited

0:30:49.440,0:30:54.799
outside interference

0:30:51.360,0:30:56.960
in american elections

0:30:54.799,0:30:58.159
if that wasn’t enough based on this

0:30:56.960,0:31:02.159
phone call that

0:30:58.159,0:31:04.159
that came out during the whole process

0:31:02.159,0:31:07.760
of this when it came out

0:31:04.159,0:31:10.399
he later on public television

0:31:07.760,0:31:11.120
you know on news networks stood in the

0:31:10.399,0:31:14.960
driveway

0:31:11.120,0:31:18.000
of the white house and further solicited

0:31:14.960,0:31:19.919
china to interfere in

0:31:18.000,0:31:21.600
the election by investigating joe

0:31:19.919,0:31:24.240
biden’s son

0:31:21.600,0:31:25.760
so you could throw out that first

0:31:24.240,0:31:26.480
allegation where he was trying to hold

0:31:25.760,0:31:29.919
money over

0:31:26.480,0:31:33.200
the ukraine’s head he’s publicly

0:31:29.919,0:31:35.440
inviting an aggressor nation to

0:31:33.200,0:31:38.320
interfere with our election

0:31:35.440,0:31:39.440
how he didn’t get correct uh convicted

0:31:38.320,0:31:43.200
of that is

0:31:39.440,0:31:44.799
really just mind-boggling yeah it’s uh

0:31:43.200,0:31:46.720
stuff like that we’ll touch on most

0:31:44.799,0:31:47.519
likely later but it sets a dangerous

0:31:46.720,0:31:50.159
precedent

0:31:47.519,0:31:51.519
for future presidents of what it means

0:31:50.159,0:31:52.960
to be president and what you can do and

0:31:51.519,0:31:55.360
what you can get away with

0:31:52.960,0:31:56.480
and this is another example of them yeah

0:31:55.360,0:31:58.880
and and he

0:31:56.480,0:31:59.600
you know is unique in that he’s the

0:31:58.880,0:32:02.159
first to be

0:31:59.600,0:32:03.600
impeached twice not sure that’s

0:32:02.159,0:32:04.960
something i’d want to put on my resume

0:32:03.600,0:32:05.519
it’s something i’ve been thinking about

0:32:04.960,0:32:06.960
a lot

0:32:05.519,0:32:08.559
especially with going back and looking

0:32:06.960,0:32:08.960
at this legacy that will certainly come

0:32:08.559,0:32:11.440
up

0:32:08.960,0:32:13.200
but like my generation and generations

0:32:11.440,0:32:14.960
around my generation

0:32:13.200,0:32:16.240
is we’re living through history for

0:32:14.960,0:32:16.799
better or worse and these are things

0:32:16.240,0:32:18.720
that

0:32:16.799,0:32:20.640
when if i ever have kids and they go to

0:32:18.720,0:32:22.080
school the teachers are going to say go

0:32:20.640,0:32:23.519
home and ask your parents

0:32:22.080,0:32:24.799
about when the capital was stormed and

0:32:23.519,0:32:26.000
when the president was impeached twice

0:32:24.799,0:32:27.279
like things like that

0:32:26.000,0:32:29.120
and i don’t know if i want to talk about

0:32:27.279,0:32:30.640
that you know like it’s it’s it’s

0:32:29.120,0:32:32.159
interesting to

0:32:30.640,0:32:33.840
think of these events you know you just

0:32:32.159,0:32:34.720
see it on twitter you see it on the news

0:32:33.840,0:32:37.600
and things like that

0:32:34.720,0:32:38.880
but it’s documented history that is

0:32:37.600,0:32:41.039
going to be in a book someday

0:32:38.880,0:32:43.039
yeah yeah and we were there for it and

0:32:41.039,0:32:46.080
that’s

0:32:43.039,0:32:48.159
it’s scary it really is we were also

0:32:46.080,0:32:49.840
there for the kovid 19 pandemic we’re

0:32:48.159,0:32:52.000
still still there

0:32:49.840,0:32:53.519
you know trump’s handling of covid19

0:32:52.000,0:32:56.559
will likely go down as one of the

0:32:53.519,0:32:59.360
biggest disasters in u.s history

0:32:56.559,0:33:00.960
by the time he left office over 400 000

0:32:59.360,0:33:03.919
americans

0:33:00.960,0:33:04.720
have died trump admittedly downplayed

0:33:03.919,0:33:07.919
the virus

0:33:04.720,0:33:09.440
in an interview he later ignored it

0:33:07.919,0:33:10.399
completely as he struggled with the

0:33:09.440,0:33:13.600
election i mean

0:33:10.399,0:33:15.840
from the november election until the day

0:33:13.600,0:33:19.600
he walked out of office

0:33:15.840,0:33:21.360
trump ignored everything to do with the

0:33:19.600,0:33:22.640
pandemic

0:33:21.360,0:33:25.440
and ignored a lot of his

0:33:22.640,0:33:27.200
responsibilities as as president because

0:33:25.440,0:33:29.760
i really think he just had a breakdown

0:33:27.200,0:33:33.279
at that point

0:33:29.760,0:33:36.320
more us citizens have died of covid

0:33:33.279,0:33:36.559
than all u.s soldiers killed in combat

0:33:36.320,0:33:39.200
in

0:33:36.559,0:33:40.960
every war since 1945. i saw that when i

0:33:39.200,0:33:45.039
was looking over the notes that

0:33:40.960,0:33:45.679
is insane yeah more are dead from covid

0:33:45.039,0:33:48.240
than from

0:33:45.679,0:33:48.240
vietnam

0:33:49.279,0:33:54.159
and trump completely and repeatedly

0:33:51.600,0:33:56.000
downplayed the virus

0:33:54.159,0:33:57.360
he contradicted top public health

0:33:56.000,0:33:59.679
experts he filed

0:33:57.360,0:34:01.279
recommendations from his science

0:33:59.679,0:34:03.679
advisors

0:34:01.279,0:34:05.279
and his own white house coronavirus task

0:34:03.679,0:34:07.360
force

0:34:05.279,0:34:08.720
he refused to accept responsibility for

0:34:07.360,0:34:11.919
the pandemic

0:34:08.720,0:34:15.200
blaming it even up until his

0:34:11.919,0:34:18.399
farewell speech on the 20th

0:34:15.200,0:34:20.480
on china calling it the china virus he

0:34:18.399,0:34:22.320
still won’t accept responsibility for it

0:34:20.480,0:34:23.839
yeah i mean at that point you might it’s

0:34:22.320,0:34:25.200
like you just gotta commit right

0:34:23.839,0:34:26.320
right because at that point if you’re

0:34:25.200,0:34:28.079
gonna admit that you’re under your fault

0:34:26.320,0:34:28.639
you you admit the one thing i’d admit to

0:34:28.079,0:34:31.520
at all

0:34:28.639,0:34:33.040
but i think you know every and this is a

0:34:31.520,0:34:34.480
discussion that’s happened a bunch of

0:34:33.040,0:34:36.240
times by now but every

0:34:34.480,0:34:38.000
president has like one or two really big

0:34:36.240,0:34:40.639
crises in their administration right

0:34:38.000,0:34:41.040
yeah and this was definitely one of his

0:34:40.639,0:34:44.000
and

0:34:41.040,0:34:45.200
his handling of it was poor yeah

0:34:44.000,0:34:46.800
regardless of how you fall on the

0:34:45.200,0:34:49.599
political spectrum you you

0:34:46.800,0:34:50.320
it’s hard to disagree with that that his

0:34:49.599,0:34:52.399
handling was

0:34:50.320,0:34:54.399
terrible and lives were lost because of

0:34:52.399,0:34:58.639
it well and it’s almost like

0:34:54.399,0:34:58.639
had he done absolutely nothing

0:34:58.720,0:35:02.800
that would have been better than what he

0:35:00.400,0:35:06.560
did because

0:35:02.800,0:35:07.599
he contradicted medical professionals

0:35:06.560,0:35:10.160
advice

0:35:07.599,0:35:11.440
he made fun of and mocked people who

0:35:10.160,0:35:13.520
were taking advice

0:35:11.440,0:35:15.200
from medical professionals to wear masks

0:35:13.520,0:35:17.280
and social distance

0:35:15.200,0:35:18.960
he deliberately exposed his secret

0:35:17.280,0:35:22.320
service detail

0:35:18.960,0:35:24.560
when he himself contracted kovid

0:35:22.320,0:35:27.200
so that he could have a publicity stunt

0:35:24.560,0:35:29.040
driving around the block for the press

0:35:27.200,0:35:30.240
then he returns to the white house still

0:35:29.040,0:35:33.119
infected

0:35:30.240,0:35:35.680
and makes a show out of taking his mask

0:35:33.119,0:35:37.119
off and working in the white house

0:35:35.680,0:35:38.720
with everybody else and exposing

0:35:37.119,0:35:41.040
everyone else yeah

0:35:38.720,0:35:42.160
it’s um and i don’t know if we have it

0:35:41.040,0:35:43.200
here but also pulling out of the world

0:35:42.160,0:35:44.880
health organization

0:35:43.200,0:35:46.960
was really bad in the middle of a

0:35:44.880,0:35:48.320
pandemic yeah yeah it just and i think

0:35:46.960,0:35:49.839
we talked about that on another show as

0:35:48.320,0:35:52.480
well we’re repeating ourselves

0:35:49.839,0:35:53.920
but like just the headline makes itself

0:35:52.480,0:35:55.760
right trump pulls out of world health

0:35:53.920,0:35:56.079
organization in the middle of a pandemic

0:35:55.760,0:35:58.320
like

0:35:56.079,0:35:59.920
why would you do that exactly exactly

0:35:58.320,0:36:00.480
well and he wasn’t taking anyone’s

0:35:59.920,0:36:02.079
advice

0:36:00.480,0:36:04.880
anyway so it wouldn’t have mattered if

0:36:02.079,0:36:04.880
we stayed in there

0:36:05.440,0:36:08.480
so what’s the next thing that that we

0:36:07.040,0:36:10.079
have because it sounds like we got a lot

0:36:08.480,0:36:11.359
more bad than good here but

0:36:10.079,0:36:13.440
yeah this section is a little long in

0:36:11.359,0:36:15.680
the tooth but i feel like we’re

0:36:13.440,0:36:17.040
i feel like we’re doing our best here uh

0:36:15.680,0:36:17.760
so the next action is about the us

0:36:17.040,0:36:19.440
economy

0:36:17.760,0:36:21.040
uh trump took credit for a robust

0:36:19.440,0:36:22.880
economy that he inherited

0:36:21.040,0:36:24.720
uh when he took office and had shown

0:36:22.880,0:36:26.240
nearly 10 years of steady growth prior

0:36:24.720,0:36:28.079
to his election

0:36:26.240,0:36:29.440
the us now faces one of the worst

0:36:28.079,0:36:31.440
economic crisis

0:36:29.440,0:36:33.280
crises in history linked to his

0:36:31.440,0:36:34.560
disastrous response to kova 19 which we

0:36:33.280,0:36:37.119
just talked about

0:36:34.560,0:36:39.280
over 22 million jobs were lost

0:36:37.119,0:36:41.599
unemployment is at 7.9 percent

0:36:39.280,0:36:42.640
more than double the 3.4 percent of the

0:36:41.599,0:36:44.079
pandemic

0:36:42.640,0:36:45.920
the national debt is at the highest

0:36:44.079,0:36:48.079
level since world war ii

0:36:45.920,0:36:49.359
uh and the economic growth of the us

0:36:48.079,0:36:52.320
will average just above

0:36:49.359,0:36:53.760
zero percent for the first trump term

0:36:52.320,0:36:57.440
trump made of the of

0:36:53.760,0:36:59.040
quite a measure of success by citing

0:36:57.440,0:37:00.480
the growth of the stock market

0:36:59.040,0:37:03.599
throughout his

0:37:00.480,0:37:05.599
his presidency and

0:37:03.599,0:37:07.599
the funny thing is if you look back over

0:37:05.599,0:37:09.280
the last 10 years if you look back over

0:37:07.599,0:37:11.599
the last two administrations the bush

0:37:09.280,0:37:11.599
and the

0:37:11.839,0:37:16.240
obama administration we had the

0:37:14.960,0:37:20.240
recession that hit

0:37:16.240,0:37:22.800
during president bush’s

0:37:20.240,0:37:24.400
term then you had all the bailouts you

0:37:22.800,0:37:26.160
know the controversy over

0:37:24.400,0:37:28.160
corporations that were too big to fail

0:37:26.160,0:37:29.200
in the government bailing them out and

0:37:28.160,0:37:31.680
so forth

0:37:29.200,0:37:32.480
but then we went on a steady increase in

0:37:31.680,0:37:35.520
the economy

0:37:32.480,0:37:39.440
that grew at a pretty consistent pace

0:37:35.520,0:37:43.040
year over year despite

0:37:39.440,0:37:45.200
what trump did you didn’t see

0:37:43.040,0:37:46.079
any spikes in growth under trump that

0:37:45.200,0:37:48.800
that would mark

0:37:46.079,0:37:50.160
something significant that he did but

0:37:48.800,0:37:53.440
what you did see

0:37:50.160,0:37:54.720
was all the controversies that came out

0:37:53.440,0:37:57.440
with trump

0:37:54.720,0:37:57.920
the economy continued to grow and it

0:37:57.440,0:38:00.079
grew

0:37:57.920,0:38:01.440
not because of trump but in spite of

0:38:00.079,0:38:03.599
trump

0:38:01.440,0:38:05.119
because typically any other president

0:38:03.599,0:38:06.960
who would have gotten tied up in some of

0:38:05.119,0:38:08.480
the controversies that he did

0:38:06.960,0:38:10.000
would have had a direct impact on the

0:38:08.480,0:38:13.040
economy

0:38:10.000,0:38:16.880
and it was almost as though the economy

0:38:13.040,0:38:19.839
and and the world expected this

0:38:16.880,0:38:20.640
sort of thing from trump so they sort of

0:38:19.839,0:38:23.760
shook it off and

0:38:20.640,0:38:26.640
it didn’t affect the economy

0:38:23.760,0:38:28.720
but even then what you had was the

0:38:26.640,0:38:31.680
pandemic hit

0:38:28.720,0:38:33.839
your unemployment sword the country shut

0:38:31.680,0:38:35.920
down for a period of time

0:38:33.839,0:38:37.920
and the country never fully recovered

0:38:35.920,0:38:40.240
from that our unemployment today

0:38:37.920,0:38:42.400
is more than twice what it was before

0:38:40.240,0:38:45.680
the pandemic hit

0:38:42.400,0:38:48.079
so if there’s a measure of success

0:38:45.680,0:38:48.720
to look at here it’s what the recovery

0:38:48.079,0:38:52.079
looked like

0:38:48.720,0:38:53.440
after the the crash and after the last

0:38:52.079,0:38:55.119
recession that we had there was

0:38:53.440,0:38:58.240
significant growth

0:38:55.119,0:39:01.119
we’ve yet to see that in this case here

0:38:58.240,0:39:02.880
so the economy even though the dow jones

0:39:01.119,0:39:04.720
and the stock market’s up and that’s all

0:39:02.880,0:39:07.119
great

0:39:04.720,0:39:08.480
the economy itself the jobs themselves

0:39:07.119,0:39:10.560
that were promised

0:39:08.480,0:39:11.599
that trump has touted over and over

0:39:10.560,0:39:14.640
again

0:39:11.599,0:39:15.839
just haven’t materialized yeah and again

0:39:14.640,0:39:17.280
we go back to the

0:39:15.839,0:39:18.800
excuse me we go back again to the

0:39:17.280,0:39:19.839
incoming administration and how they’re

0:39:18.800,0:39:21.119
going to

0:39:19.839,0:39:22.560
you know you still have all the negative

0:39:21.119,0:39:23.599
impacts of the pandemic which is still

0:39:22.560,0:39:25.119
going on

0:39:23.599,0:39:26.320
and and how they’re going to deal with

0:39:25.119,0:39:27.040
that and how they can come back from

0:39:26.320,0:39:30.480
that

0:39:27.040,0:39:33.440
it’s it’s a it’s a complex thing

0:39:30.480,0:39:35.280
that is not as easy as oh i was

0:39:33.440,0:39:36.720
president for four years

0:39:35.280,0:39:38.880
everything that happened in those four

0:39:36.720,0:39:40.640
years is cut off from what was before me

0:39:38.880,0:39:42.320
and what is after me this is what i did

0:39:40.640,0:39:43.520
it doesn’t work like that right and

0:39:42.320,0:39:44.560
especially when it comes to the economy

0:39:43.520,0:39:46.000
which is

0:39:44.560,0:39:47.760
obviously one of those hot button issues

0:39:46.000,0:39:48.960
that people love to talk about when

0:39:47.760,0:39:51.760
they talk about who they’re gonna vote

0:39:48.960,0:39:54.640
for or who is a successful president

0:39:51.760,0:39:55.839
um but it’s not as black and white as

0:39:54.640,0:39:56.320
you know some people would like to think

0:39:55.839,0:39:58.720
it is

0:39:56.320,0:39:59.760
absolutely so the last thing that we

0:39:58.720,0:40:04.000
wanted to

0:39:59.760,0:40:07.119
uh kick donald trump for here

0:40:04.000,0:40:08.160
is damaging democracy so trump

0:40:07.119,0:40:10.560
consistently

0:40:08.160,0:40:11.520
eroded democratic norms during his

0:40:10.560,0:40:14.160
tenure

0:40:11.520,0:40:14.800
trump’s constant attack on the media led

0:40:14.160,0:40:17.200
u.n

0:40:14.800,0:40:18.160
experts to warn of raised risk of

0:40:17.200,0:40:20.640
violence against

0:40:18.160,0:40:23.119
journalists he’s threatened to deploy

0:40:20.640,0:40:25.760
u.s troops to american cities

0:40:23.119,0:40:27.680
and demanded poll workers stop counting

0:40:25.760,0:40:28.880
balance to sway the election in his

0:40:27.680,0:40:30.640
favor

0:40:28.880,0:40:33.599
trump’s constant dissemination of

0:40:30.640,0:40:36.079
disinformation on the electoral process

0:40:33.599,0:40:36.640
have led historians to draw parallels

0:40:36.079,0:40:39.680
between

0:40:36.640,0:40:41.200
him and benito mussolini

0:40:39.680,0:40:43.440
trump has refused to accept the

0:40:41.200,0:40:46.160
clear-cut results of the election

0:40:43.440,0:40:47.040
and failed to provide any substantial

0:40:46.160,0:40:50.400
proof

0:40:47.040,0:40:53.119
to his claims for election fraud

0:40:50.400,0:40:54.000
the president is charged now with

0:40:53.119,0:40:57.040
inciting

0:40:54.000,0:40:58.240
insurrection at a rally and attempting

0:40:57.040,0:41:00.480
to prevent

0:40:58.240,0:41:01.839
a peaceful transfer of power so now

0:41:00.480,0:41:03.359
additional even if

0:41:01.839,0:41:05.040
since i wrote these notes up early in

0:41:03.359,0:41:06.319
the week additional information has come

0:41:05.040,0:41:09.680
out

0:41:06.319,0:41:13.200
that shows not only did donald trump

0:41:09.680,0:41:14.800
incite and encourage his supporters to

0:41:13.200,0:41:17.359
storm the capital

0:41:14.800,0:41:19.920
he also has financial ties to several

0:41:17.359,0:41:20.880
organizations that were part of that

0:41:19.920,0:41:26.400
that shows he’s

0:41:20.880,0:41:26.400
financed those groups to do exactly that

0:41:27.040,0:41:31.760
i don’t think democracy has ever been

0:41:29.599,0:41:32.720
threatened like this since the civil war

0:41:31.760,0:41:35.119
what do you think

0:41:32.720,0:41:36.640
yeah no i completely agree and and the

0:41:35.119,0:41:38.400
difficult part is

0:41:36.640,0:41:40.079
these are all facts right that we’ve

0:41:38.400,0:41:41.119
just stated but i can still guarantee

0:41:40.079,0:41:42.400
you that there’s

0:41:41.119,0:41:44.800
somewhat half of the country that would

0:41:42.400,0:41:47.920
disagree with this and that’s where

0:41:44.800,0:41:48.640
the real damages the the erosion of a

0:41:47.920,0:41:50.960
common

0:41:48.640,0:41:52.720
reality that we all have right because

0:41:50.960,0:41:53.920
and i think that that is and i mentioned

0:41:52.720,0:41:55.040
it before but i think that that’s part

0:41:53.920,0:41:57.359
of the tactic

0:41:55.040,0:41:58.319
is to put so much information false

0:41:57.359,0:42:00.480
information out there

0:41:58.319,0:42:02.079
and to do all these things that for any

0:42:00.480,0:42:04.000
other president any one of them would

0:42:02.079,0:42:06.800
have got them out of office most likely

0:42:04.000,0:42:08.960
or a terrible scandal but to just keep

0:42:06.800,0:42:12.079
doubling down and to keep

0:42:08.960,0:42:15.280
uh you know moving facts around it has

0:42:12.079,0:42:16.480
eroded just average people’s way of

0:42:15.280,0:42:19.359
thinking

0:42:16.480,0:42:20.960
and it’s it’s i’ve seen it in my own

0:42:19.359,0:42:22.880
life personally people i know

0:42:20.960,0:42:24.640
that we can’t even talk about it because

0:42:22.880,0:42:26.640
we don’t agree on the facts

0:42:24.640,0:42:27.839
and what is real and what is not and

0:42:26.640,0:42:30.240
just because

0:42:27.839,0:42:31.680
i have facts it makes me you know i’m

0:42:30.240,0:42:33.359
only saying that because i hate trump

0:42:31.680,0:42:35.359
but it’s not that that’s not

0:42:33.359,0:42:36.160
what is true and i think that that is a

0:42:35.359,0:42:37.520
thing that we’re going to see in the

0:42:36.160,0:42:40.560
coming years

0:42:37.520,0:42:42.400
is this this uh you know difficulty of

0:42:40.560,0:42:43.839
telling what is fact and fiction even if

0:42:42.400,0:42:44.720
trump is no longer in office i think

0:42:43.839,0:42:46.640
that mark

0:42:44.720,0:42:47.920
that stain is going to remain with the

0:42:46.640,0:42:50.480
country for a while

0:42:47.920,0:42:52.240
yeah like you know you’re you could have

0:42:50.480,0:42:53.680
your own opinion you’re entitled to your

0:42:52.240,0:42:54.480
own opinion but you’re not entitled to

0:42:53.680,0:42:57.520
your own facts

0:42:54.480,0:42:59.760
the facts are the facts and

0:42:57.520,0:43:00.640
regardless of how much effort is put

0:42:59.760,0:43:03.520
forth to

0:43:00.640,0:43:04.880
disseminate misinformation to skew those

0:43:03.520,0:43:06.560
facts

0:43:04.880,0:43:08.400
the facts are still there it’s

0:43:06.560,0:43:09.920
unfortunate that we have to go through

0:43:08.400,0:43:12.319
the effort

0:43:09.920,0:43:14.319
almost like an archaeological dig to get

0:43:12.319,0:43:15.760
through all of the lies

0:43:14.319,0:43:17.440
so we can get down to the facts

0:43:15.760,0:43:19.920
themselves and even then

0:43:17.440,0:43:20.640
the die-hard supporters of someone like

0:43:19.920,0:43:23.280
trump

0:43:20.640,0:43:25.440
still just simply refuse to accept the

0:43:23.280,0:43:27.200
facts

0:43:25.440,0:43:29.920
whether or not you choose to accept the

0:43:27.200,0:43:32.000
truth doesn’t make it any less true

0:43:29.920,0:43:33.119
and there are people out there that are

0:43:32.000,0:43:36.160
having a very

0:43:33.119,0:43:36.800
difficult time accepting that one of the

0:43:36.160,0:43:41.040
networks

0:43:36.800,0:43:42.880
we stream on here we stream on a network

0:43:41.040,0:43:45.760
on vaughan live

0:43:42.880,0:43:46.560
and there’s a lot of trump supporters

0:43:45.760,0:43:49.839
that

0:43:46.560,0:43:52.560
that watch that particular

0:43:49.839,0:43:54.319
service and there’s been a couple of

0:43:52.560,0:43:57.680
instances where people

0:43:54.319,0:43:59.760
you know during our replays there

0:43:57.680,0:44:01.280
have directly questioned you know what

0:43:59.760,0:44:03.520
are we talking about trump won the

0:44:01.280,0:44:07.680
election in a landslide

0:44:03.520,0:44:09.760
and it it it makes me stop to wonder

0:44:07.680,0:44:11.680
despite all of the information that’s

0:44:09.760,0:44:12.720
out there none of which points to a

0:44:11.680,0:44:15.200
trump victory

0:44:12.720,0:44:16.640
how could somebody possibly think that

0:44:15.200,0:44:19.200
he won

0:44:16.640,0:44:20.720
when not a shred of evidence has been

0:44:19.200,0:44:22.800
produced

0:44:20.720,0:44:24.319
despite there being dozens of court

0:44:22.800,0:44:27.440
cases that have been shot down

0:44:24.319,0:44:30.560
by the supreme court mind you which

0:44:27.440,0:44:32.720
has a majority of conservative justices

0:44:30.560,0:44:35.839
that he put on the court

0:44:32.720,0:44:37.359
have shot down so many of these lawsuits

0:44:35.839,0:44:39.599
that he’s brought

0:44:37.359,0:44:40.720
how could people still think that he won

0:44:39.599,0:44:43.599
just because that’s

0:44:40.720,0:44:45.440
what they want yeah and i think and it’s

0:44:43.599,0:44:47.599
something that i’ve noticed a lot too

0:44:45.440,0:44:48.640
there’s a lack of accountability in that

0:44:47.599,0:44:49.680
mindset

0:44:48.640,0:44:51.920
where especially when we had the

0:44:49.680,0:44:53.920
insurrection at the capitol immediately

0:44:51.920,0:44:56.079
people the conspiracies from that side

0:44:53.920,0:44:57.839
of the of politics

0:44:56.079,0:45:00.000
were trying to blaming on antifa and

0:44:57.839,0:45:02.400
things like that where in reality

0:45:00.000,0:45:03.680
that’s not the case i don’t think there

0:45:02.400,0:45:05.280
was any evidence for that

0:45:03.680,0:45:07.280
it’s just it’s a lack of accountability

0:45:05.280,0:45:09.119
where it can’t be me it can’t be my

0:45:07.280,0:45:10.880
fault and i think that’s what you see a

0:45:09.119,0:45:12.240
lot and especially now

0:45:10.880,0:45:13.920
trump has made himself out to be a

0:45:12.240,0:45:14.720
martyr with especially with the election

0:45:13.920,0:45:16.000
results

0:45:14.720,0:45:17.599
and i think that that just feeds more

0:45:16.000,0:45:18.800
into the cycle of a lack of

0:45:17.599,0:45:20.560
accountability and

0:45:18.800,0:45:22.160
you know trump can do no wrong and you

0:45:20.560,0:45:22.640
know it was robbed it was stolen from

0:45:22.160,0:45:24.640
him which

0:45:22.640,0:45:25.920
none of that is true yeah yeah i agree

0:45:24.640,0:45:27.119
100

0:45:25.920,0:45:28.960
well let’s take another quick break

0:45:27.119,0:45:30.240
we’ll come back and we’ll have a kind of

0:45:28.960,0:45:32.079
an open discussion

0:45:30.240,0:45:33.760
about the lasting effects of trump and

0:45:32.079,0:45:34.930
what the future under joe biden’s gonna

0:45:33.760,0:45:39.900
look like

0:45:34.930,0:45:39.900
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welcome back we are talking about the

0:46:46.640,0:46:50.560
legacy of donald trump

0:46:49.200,0:46:52.400
and and now we’re going to talk about

0:46:50.560,0:46:52.880
what the lasting effects of donald trump

0:46:52.400,0:46:55.599
are

0:46:52.880,0:46:57.119
on the world in general and i’m going to

0:46:55.599,0:46:58.720
throw a couple of these

0:46:57.119,0:47:01.119
categories at you and i want to get your

0:46:58.720,0:47:02.560
thoughts so the first thing that i have

0:47:01.119,0:47:06.640
here i’d like to hear about

0:47:02.560,0:47:08.960
is what is the future of the judiciary

0:47:06.640,0:47:11.440
and the supreme court

0:47:08.960,0:47:12.000
thanks to donald trump well like we’ve

0:47:11.440,0:47:13.760
talked about

0:47:12.000,0:47:16.000
he had the three supreme court judges

0:47:13.760,0:47:18.560
and was it 150

0:47:16.000,0:47:20.720
250 uh other judges appointed so that’s

0:47:18.560,0:47:22.079
definitely a lasting impact

0:47:20.720,0:47:23.839
um i think it’s really going to come

0:47:22.079,0:47:24.800
down to which is what i said during that

0:47:23.839,0:47:26.240
segment was

0:47:24.800,0:47:28.240
how these judges are going to come down

0:47:26.240,0:47:29.920
on a lot of decisions i mean we saw

0:47:28.240,0:47:31.200
um they don’t always just toe the party

0:47:29.920,0:47:32.960
line like you’d expect with certain

0:47:31.200,0:47:33.839
things that trump was trying to get them

0:47:32.960,0:47:35.839
to do

0:47:33.839,0:47:37.200
um we just talked about it i forget what

0:47:35.839,0:47:40.240
it was where they

0:47:37.200,0:47:43.280
they uh well for the election yeah yeah

0:47:40.240,0:47:44.559
yeah so something like that you know

0:47:43.280,0:47:46.559
if the fear is that they would just

0:47:44.559,0:47:47.280
follow his orders that was proven to be

0:47:46.559,0:47:49.520
false

0:47:47.280,0:47:50.880
so i think that that is that shows a

0:47:49.520,0:47:52.000
somewhat of a hopeful thing where they

0:47:50.880,0:47:53.520
are

0:47:52.000,0:47:55.599
impartial which is what you want from

0:47:53.520,0:47:57.839
your judges so hopefully we’ll see that

0:47:55.599,0:47:59.119
continued impartiality the one thing

0:47:57.839,0:48:03.920
that does concern me though

0:47:59.119,0:48:06.240
is you have a man who appointed

0:48:03.920,0:48:07.440
several hundred judges to lifetime

0:48:06.240,0:48:09.440
appointments

0:48:07.440,0:48:11.119
that will affect the judiciary moving

0:48:09.440,0:48:14.240
forward

0:48:11.119,0:48:16.000
and this is the same man who was such a

0:48:14.240,0:48:17.599
terrible judge of character appointing

0:48:16.000,0:48:18.960
cabinet members that he had a revolving

0:48:17.599,0:48:20.480
door on his cabinet and couldn’t keep

0:48:18.960,0:48:21.760
cabinet members and he had positions

0:48:20.480,0:48:23.280
where he had

0:48:21.760,0:48:25.040
three and four replacements over the

0:48:23.280,0:48:27.520
course of four years

0:48:25.040,0:48:30.160
which makes me wonder how competent and

0:48:27.520,0:48:32.559
qualified is he to choose a justice

0:48:30.160,0:48:34.480
that’s there for life

0:48:32.559,0:48:36.319
is that something that concerns you at

0:48:34.480,0:48:36.720
all yeah i mean that’s a that’s a fair

0:48:36.319,0:48:40.079
point

0:48:36.720,0:48:41.119
and hopefully um yeah he has not been

0:48:40.079,0:48:43.440
great at picking

0:48:41.119,0:48:45.680
people but based off their character uh

0:48:43.440,0:48:46.720
but hopefully out of those 250 will get

0:48:45.680,0:48:48.880
like you know

0:48:46.720,0:48:50.880
a third that are good at their jobs like

0:48:48.880,0:48:53.200
you know best you know for the hope

0:48:50.880,0:48:54.400
um but if not then hopefully the system

0:48:53.200,0:48:56.640
will do its job and

0:48:54.400,0:48:57.839
you know they’ll resign or we’ll find

0:48:56.640,0:49:00.640
replacements hopefully

0:48:57.839,0:49:02.880
that’s that’s being very optimistic well

0:49:00.640,0:49:05.040
we’re always so doom and gloom you know

0:49:02.880,0:49:07.200
i try to think positively how about

0:49:05.040,0:49:08.640
foreign affairs and our allies what do

0:49:07.200,0:49:09.839
you think the lasting effects are going

0:49:08.640,0:49:11.200
to be on that

0:49:09.839,0:49:13.040
well i think initially it’s it’s

0:49:11.200,0:49:15.520
probably going to be negative but

0:49:13.040,0:49:16.400
luckily we have the benefit of joe biden

0:49:15.520,0:49:17.760
already having

0:49:16.400,0:49:19.760
a working relationship with a lot of

0:49:17.760,0:49:21.280
these people most likely because of his

0:49:19.760,0:49:22.800
time as vice president

0:49:21.280,0:49:24.319
um so i think that that is gonna help

0:49:22.800,0:49:25.359
rebuild a lot of the ties that trump

0:49:24.319,0:49:27.680
might have severed

0:49:25.359,0:49:29.200
or damaged or tried to sever um and i

0:49:27.680,0:49:30.480
think yeah having joe biden as the

0:49:29.200,0:49:33.520
president

0:49:30.480,0:49:34.480
might uh the rest of the world will see

0:49:33.520,0:49:37.280
america sort of

0:49:34.480,0:49:38.720
back on track hopefully as having a

0:49:37.280,0:49:41.920
functional government

0:49:38.720,0:49:43.680
a more not traditional but a more um

0:49:41.920,0:49:45.599
professional government and i think

0:49:43.680,0:49:47.920
that’ll that’ll hopefully

0:49:45.599,0:49:49.920
be a good thing for uh you know our

0:49:47.920,0:49:52.720
allies and i agree with you 100

0:49:49.920,0:49:55.440
on those points about the economy and

0:49:52.720,0:49:57.440
taxes what do you think we can see

0:49:55.440,0:49:59.680
long term for that now well we talked

0:49:57.440,0:50:02.319
about that that corporate tax slash

0:49:59.680,0:50:03.520
um hopefully that is at least adjusted i

0:50:02.319,0:50:04.960
think that that’s way too much of a

0:50:03.520,0:50:06.880
slash for corporations

0:50:04.960,0:50:08.319
um i know you had mentioned that your

0:50:06.880,0:50:08.880
company things like that good benefits

0:50:08.319,0:50:12.160
but i think

0:50:08.880,0:50:14.319
long like big picture i do think it

0:50:12.160,0:50:15.839
negatively impacts the most amount of

0:50:14.319,0:50:17.440
people um

0:50:15.839,0:50:18.880
for the economy i think it’s probably

0:50:17.440,0:50:20.640
going to get worse before it gets better

0:50:18.880,0:50:21.920
until we get coronavirus under control

0:50:20.640,0:50:23.200
which hopefully with the new

0:50:21.920,0:50:26.160
administration we will

0:50:23.200,0:50:27.839
now that they’re encouraging science and

0:50:26.160,0:50:29.200
uh vaccinations are rolling out and

0:50:27.839,0:50:31.599
things like that hopefully

0:50:29.200,0:50:32.559
once the virus is stabilized the economy

0:50:31.599,0:50:34.720
will also

0:50:32.559,0:50:36.480
in turn be i think you’re kind of you’re

0:50:34.720,0:50:39.520
on the mark there it’s really everything

0:50:36.480,0:50:41.359
still centers around corona yeah

0:50:39.520,0:50:42.640
what about immigration can we expect

0:50:41.359,0:50:46.240
long-term

0:50:42.640,0:50:48.160
effects of his immigration policies um

0:50:46.240,0:50:49.760
i think that also kind of ties in with

0:50:48.160,0:50:52.400
uh foreign allies and

0:50:49.760,0:50:53.520
and the world’s perception of america uh

0:50:52.400,0:50:55.520
hopefully

0:50:53.520,0:50:56.640
biden will be able to be a little bit

0:50:55.520,0:50:59.920
more welcoming

0:50:56.640,0:51:01.520
and to immigration i know people are

0:50:59.920,0:51:04.240
some people are very against any kind of

0:51:01.520,0:51:06.000
immigration um but i think

0:51:04.240,0:51:08.400
that taking the stance that donald trump

0:51:06.000,0:51:11.599
did of almost xenophobia

0:51:08.400,0:51:12.480
or not almost xenophobia is not the way

0:51:11.599,0:51:13.680
to go about it

0:51:12.480,0:51:15.920
and i think even if biden’s going to

0:51:13.680,0:51:17.520
come down strictly on it i’m not sure

0:51:15.920,0:51:21.839
he’s going to be as

0:51:17.520,0:51:23.680
vocal about it sure yeah and what about

0:51:21.839,0:51:25.680
you know i specifically mentioned covet

0:51:23.680,0:51:27.119
here but pandemics in general do you

0:51:25.680,0:51:29.440
think

0:51:27.119,0:51:31.200
the next pandemic hopefully that won’t

0:51:29.440,0:51:32.800
be for at least another hundred years do

0:51:31.200,0:51:33.839
you think the country’s gonna respond

0:51:32.800,0:51:36.720
differently than it did

0:51:33.839,0:51:37.520
during donald trump’s reign i’d say most

0:51:36.720,0:51:39.520
likely um

0:51:37.520,0:51:41.839
especially because you know looking 100

0:51:39.520,0:51:44.960
years back with the spanish flu

0:51:41.839,0:51:46.079
people have such a uh you know it’s when

0:51:44.960,0:51:47.440
you look in a history book and you see

0:51:46.079,0:51:48.720
all the pictures in black and white it’s

0:51:47.440,0:51:51.520
not as tangible

0:51:48.720,0:51:52.160
but with this in our modern age where

0:51:51.520,0:51:53.520
you have

0:51:52.160,0:51:55.040
you know social media and things that

0:51:53.520,0:51:55.920
will most likely be able to be looked

0:51:55.040,0:51:57.599
back on

0:51:55.920,0:51:58.960
i think it will be a lot more real for

0:51:57.599,0:52:00.880
people and

0:51:58.960,0:52:04.000
hopefully if it’s less than 100 years

0:52:00.880,0:52:06.640
people like my age or younger

0:52:04.000,0:52:07.760
will be alive still and will say that

0:52:06.640,0:52:08.559
you know this is not a joke and

0:52:07.760,0:52:10.160
hopefully

0:52:08.559,0:52:11.599
whatever administration is in power at

0:52:10.160,0:52:13.839
that time will have learned

0:52:11.599,0:52:16.240
from past mistakes and you know be able

0:52:13.839,0:52:18.000
to have some sort of

0:52:16.240,0:52:19.359
pandemic like task force you know that’s

0:52:18.000,0:52:21.200
is designed for these things

0:52:19.359,0:52:22.480
especially as the world gets more and

0:52:21.200,0:52:25.359
more globalized every day

0:52:22.480,0:52:27.119
yeah here’s the hope and and finally

0:52:25.359,0:52:29.920
what do you think the long-term

0:52:27.119,0:52:32.160
impact on the presidency itself is going

0:52:29.920,0:52:35.520
to be i mean we just had a president

0:52:32.160,0:52:38.079
who challenged every norm and

0:52:35.520,0:52:39.680
every check that’s been put in place on

0:52:38.079,0:52:41.119
the power of the presidency do you

0:52:39.680,0:52:43.200
think there’s going to be a lasting

0:52:41.119,0:52:46.079
effect on the presidency absolutely

0:52:43.200,0:52:47.440
and i think that trump testing all those

0:52:46.079,0:52:49.680
limits

0:52:47.440,0:52:51.280
is going to set a like i said before a

0:52:49.680,0:52:52.319
dangerous precedent going forward and i

0:52:51.280,0:52:53.760
think that even

0:52:52.319,0:52:55.520
the you know the bite administration

0:52:53.760,0:52:56.400
will probably take some liberties with

0:52:55.520,0:52:57.839
that as well

0:52:56.400,0:52:59.440
with what a president can do with things

0:52:57.839,0:53:02.800
like executive orders

0:52:59.440,0:53:05.839
or uh pardons and things like that um

0:53:02.800,0:53:07.119
hopefully that that extended power will

0:53:05.839,0:53:08.079
get reeled back you know checks and

0:53:07.119,0:53:10.000
balances and all

0:53:08.079,0:53:11.440
over time but i think in the immediate

0:53:10.000,0:53:12.079
future it’s still going to be a little

0:53:11.440,0:53:14.720
up in the air

0:53:12.079,0:53:16.000
on how that how the presidency is viewed

0:53:14.720,0:53:18.319
okay

0:53:16.000,0:53:20.079
so the future all right let’s let’s turn

0:53:18.319,0:53:21.040
our attention to the future under joe

0:53:20.079,0:53:22.640
biden he’s got

0:53:21.040,0:53:24.240
four years i don’t think he’s gonna be

0:53:22.640,0:53:26.480
up for i don’t think he’s gonna do

0:53:24.240,0:53:28.240
a second term so he’s got four years to

0:53:26.480,0:53:30.480
accomplish what he wants

0:53:28.240,0:53:32.960
and the first thing really is to unify a

0:53:30.480,0:53:34.800
nation that is more divided now

0:53:32.960,0:53:36.319
than any other time in our history safe

0:53:34.800,0:53:39.119
for the civil war

0:53:36.319,0:53:40.800
do you think joe biden has what it takes

0:53:39.119,0:53:44.319
to unify the country

0:53:40.800,0:53:46.640
given the staunch support of

0:53:44.319,0:53:48.400
70 million people who voted for donald

0:53:46.640,0:53:52.000
trump

0:53:48.400,0:53:53.920
honestly i don’t know um because

0:53:52.000,0:53:55.359
it’s it’s just you know in his speech

0:53:53.920,0:53:56.000
during the inauguration he talked about

0:53:55.359,0:53:57.599
it not being

0:53:56.000,0:53:59.760
about parties which i feel like every

0:53:57.599,0:54:01.119
president says but that doesn’t work

0:53:59.760,0:54:04.079
it’s not how that works

0:54:01.119,0:54:04.720
and i like in my experience i don’t

0:54:04.079,0:54:06.800
think

0:54:04.720,0:54:07.839
that that’s possible i just think that

0:54:06.800,0:54:10.319
and i don’t know what

0:54:07.839,0:54:12.480
it is but i think people are much too

0:54:10.319,0:54:15.680
focused on their political parties

0:54:12.480,0:54:17.200
and and that that divides us so much

0:54:15.680,0:54:19.119
and i’m not really sure how you can fix

0:54:17.200,0:54:20.559
that i think the best way to go about

0:54:19.119,0:54:23.280
fixing it would be

0:54:20.559,0:54:24.079
uh in the government seeing you know

0:54:23.280,0:54:26.960
handshakes from

0:54:24.079,0:54:28.400
both parties agreeing on things but if

0:54:26.960,0:54:29.440
that’s not going to change then i don’t

0:54:28.400,0:54:30.480
see how that’s going to change for the

0:54:29.440,0:54:34.240
public either

0:54:30.480,0:54:35.599
i agree uh handling of covid so

0:54:34.240,0:54:36.880
there’s been a number of things in the

0:54:35.599,0:54:38.640
first couple of days of the biden

0:54:36.880,0:54:39.920
administration that he signed by

0:54:38.640,0:54:42.960
executive order

0:54:39.920,0:54:43.920
to address covid do you feel more

0:54:42.960,0:54:46.480
confident

0:54:43.920,0:54:47.440
in biden’s ability to handle kovid than

0:54:46.480,0:54:48.640
trump’s do you

0:54:47.440,0:54:50.720
think we’re going to get ahead of this

0:54:48.640,0:54:51.920
do you you know where do you think we’re

0:54:50.720,0:54:53.200
going with this and are we going in the

0:54:51.920,0:54:55.599
right direction

0:54:53.200,0:54:56.480
um overall i am more confident in joe

0:54:55.599,0:54:58.720
biden

0:54:56.480,0:55:00.000
um my only fear is that so much damage

0:54:58.720,0:55:03.440
has already been done

0:55:00.000,0:55:06.400
um by the trump administration and how

0:55:03.440,0:55:08.000
biden is going to be able to like if he

0:55:06.400,0:55:09.200
wants to be effective if he’d be able to

0:55:08.000,0:55:11.920
be as effective as he can

0:55:09.200,0:55:13.440
given the the things that trump has done

0:55:11.920,0:55:14.720
um hopefully using those executive

0:55:13.440,0:55:16.160
orders like you said

0:55:14.720,0:55:17.839
um he’ll be able to reverse a lot of

0:55:16.160,0:55:19.280
that and speed the process up and get

0:55:17.839,0:55:20.720
vaccinations out

0:55:19.280,0:55:22.319
and get the resources to people that

0:55:20.720,0:55:24.240
need it again

0:55:22.319,0:55:26.000
a lot of hoping um we’ll see what

0:55:24.240,0:55:28.160
actually happens

0:55:26.000,0:55:29.520
so foreign policy so you you had

0:55:28.160,0:55:32.079
mentioned already that

0:55:29.520,0:55:33.839
that joe biden has an established

0:55:32.079,0:55:35.760
working relationship with a lot of our

0:55:33.839,0:55:37.680
allies

0:55:35.760,0:55:39.359
over the four years that he was in

0:55:37.680,0:55:39.760
office trump did a lot of damage to

0:55:39.359,0:55:42.480
those

0:55:39.760,0:55:44.000
through insults through you know pulling

0:55:42.480,0:55:46.960
out of treaties and

0:55:44.000,0:55:48.000
military movements and various things do

0:55:46.960,0:55:50.000
you think joe biden

0:55:48.000,0:55:52.000
has it within him to rebuild those

0:55:50.000,0:55:54.160
alliances in the short time that he’s

0:55:52.000,0:55:57.119
probably going to be in office

0:55:54.160,0:55:57.839
i think yes i do and i think part of

0:55:57.119,0:55:59.680
that comes be

0:55:57.839,0:56:01.200
from and it’s one of the criticisms

0:55:59.680,0:56:02.480
people might have of joe biden of being

0:56:01.200,0:56:04.480
career politician

0:56:02.480,0:56:06.559
but i think that when it comes to

0:56:04.480,0:56:08.240
foreign policy and foreign affairs

0:56:06.559,0:56:09.599
being a career politician can be a good

0:56:08.240,0:56:11.599
thing because you know you saw

0:56:09.599,0:56:12.799
trump who’s not an as experienced of a

0:56:11.599,0:56:15.119
political leader

0:56:12.799,0:56:16.240
how that worked out dealing with other

0:56:15.119,0:56:17.520
world leaders

0:56:16.240,0:56:19.520
so i think having someone that was

0:56:17.520,0:56:21.200
already vice president and

0:56:19.520,0:56:23.680
has met all these people but has also

0:56:21.200,0:56:25.839
been in the quote unquote business for

0:56:23.680,0:56:27.839
his entire life i think that you pick up

0:56:25.839,0:56:29.200
some skills along the way that make you

0:56:27.839,0:56:30.960
a better diplomat and hopefully that

0:56:29.200,0:56:32.640
those skills are put to use very good

0:56:30.960,0:56:34.640
point

0:56:32.640,0:56:37.440
so some of those executive orders that

0:56:34.640,0:56:40.480
joe biden has signed into

0:56:37.440,0:56:42.720
law at this point dealt with undoing

0:56:40.480,0:56:45.119
some of the things that donald trump did

0:56:42.720,0:56:46.160
do you think that biden should be

0:56:45.119,0:56:49.280
focused on

0:56:46.160,0:56:51.280
erasing the trump legacy or do you think

0:56:49.280,0:56:52.400
his efforts would be better focused

0:56:51.280,0:56:54.319
elsewhere

0:56:52.400,0:56:55.760
well i think it’s a it’s kind of a

0:56:54.319,0:56:58.000
double-edged sword because erasing the

0:56:55.760,0:56:59.359
trump legacy will also benefit

0:56:58.000,0:57:00.960
a lot of the american people especially

0:56:59.359,0:57:01.839
when it comes to things like the kova 19

0:57:00.960,0:57:03.599
pandemic

0:57:01.839,0:57:05.599
because part of trump’s legacy was

0:57:03.599,0:57:07.359
hindering the process of getting people

0:57:05.599,0:57:09.200
vaccinated and the resources like i said

0:57:07.359,0:57:11.839
that they need um

0:57:09.200,0:57:13.839
so i think in in those instances where

0:57:11.839,0:57:15.119
erasing trump’s legacy would benefit the

0:57:13.839,0:57:15.920
american people i think that that is a

0:57:15.119,0:57:17.920
good thing

0:57:15.920,0:57:19.040
but just turning it into a you know a

0:57:17.920,0:57:20.559
contest of

0:57:19.040,0:57:22.160
you know if i can erase this guy’s name

0:57:20.559,0:57:22.799
from the books of history i don’t think

0:57:22.160,0:57:25.680
that’s worth

0:57:22.799,0:57:26.079
your time so the last one that i wanted

0:57:25.680,0:57:28.720
to talk

0:57:26.079,0:57:30.240
about here is the chance of success you

0:57:28.720,0:57:31.839
know you mentioned that joe biden is a

0:57:30.240,0:57:33.920
career politician

0:57:31.839,0:57:36.240
he’s been in the white house you know

0:57:33.920,0:57:39.760
administration before as vice president

0:57:36.240,0:57:42.480
he’s spent you know an eternity in

0:57:39.760,0:57:43.760
in the senate and and the legislative

0:57:42.480,0:57:46.240
branch

0:57:43.760,0:57:48.559
so he comes to us with a wealth of

0:57:46.240,0:57:50.640
experience

0:57:48.559,0:57:52.880
but he’s also the oldest president to

0:57:50.640,0:57:54.160
take office at this point in time at 78

0:57:52.880,0:57:56.079
years old

0:57:54.160,0:57:57.760
do you think his age is going to

0:57:56.079,0:57:58.960
contribute to his ability to be

0:57:57.760,0:58:01.359
successful

0:57:58.960,0:58:02.720
and do you think he he’ll have the

0:58:01.359,0:58:05.040
support that he needs

0:58:02.720,0:58:06.960
because right now there’s a small

0:58:05.040,0:58:09.680
majority but there is a majority

0:58:06.960,0:58:12.079
of democrats in the senate and there’s a

0:58:09.680,0:58:13.920
majority of democrats in the house so

0:58:12.079,0:58:15.520
the democrats really hold the power

0:58:13.920,0:58:17.359
right now at least for the next two

0:58:15.520,0:58:20.319
years

0:58:17.359,0:58:22.240
will that help his success do you think

0:58:20.319,0:58:24.160
he can be successful in his

0:58:22.240,0:58:25.839
platform and what he wants to do for the

0:58:24.160,0:58:27.520
next four years

0:58:25.839,0:58:29.680
um i’ve said it before but i certainly

0:58:27.520,0:58:30.559
hope so um i do think his age is

0:58:29.680,0:58:32.240
definitely going to be

0:58:30.559,0:58:34.160
one of the main points of contention for

0:58:32.240,0:58:36.400
people that will criticize him

0:58:34.160,0:58:38.319
i hope that in terms of his mental

0:58:36.400,0:58:39.760
facilities he seems like he’s all there

0:58:38.319,0:58:41.440
and his speeches and things like that he

0:58:39.760,0:58:42.880
speaks very eloquently except for a few

0:58:41.440,0:58:44.160
stutters occasionally which you know

0:58:42.880,0:58:47.440
people will harp on

0:58:44.160,0:58:48.000
but i think in terms of leading i think

0:58:47.440,0:58:50.799
he’ll

0:58:48.000,0:58:52.160
he’ll do what he needs to do and i think

0:58:50.799,0:58:55.119
the people behind him

0:58:52.160,0:58:56.319
will also be extremely helpful um and

0:58:55.119,0:58:58.400
you know the presidency is obviously a

0:58:56.319,0:59:00.000
huge burden for someone to undertake

0:58:58.400,0:59:01.520
we’ve seen the before and after photos

0:59:00.000,0:59:03.359
of you know when people come into office

0:59:01.520,0:59:05.599
versus when they leave

0:59:03.359,0:59:06.559
i think despite his age i think he’ll be

0:59:05.599,0:59:08.079
able to

0:59:06.559,0:59:10.240
you know fulfill his duties uh to the

0:59:08.079,0:59:11.680
best of his ability and i would tend to

0:59:10.240,0:59:13.680
agree with you

0:59:11.680,0:59:15.520
largely because i think he’s smart

0:59:13.680,0:59:18.799
enough to turn his cabinet

0:59:15.520,0:59:20.799
into an asset rather than a distraction

0:59:18.799,0:59:22.000
much of the trump presidency centered

0:59:20.799,0:59:24.720
around

0:59:22.000,0:59:26.240
controversy of cabinet members cabinet

0:59:24.720,0:59:28.880
turnover

0:59:26.240,0:59:31.359
he didn’t trust his cabinet members he

0:59:28.880,0:59:35.040
didn’t trust the people around him

0:59:31.359,0:59:36.319
he was more inclined to make unilateral

0:59:35.040,0:59:39.200
decisions on his own

0:59:36.319,0:59:40.079
rather than to trust the experts around

0:59:39.200,0:59:42.720
him

0:59:40.079,0:59:44.640
and i think joe biden is smart enough

0:59:42.720,0:59:47.359
experienced enough

0:59:44.640,0:59:49.119
and wise enough to not fall into those

0:59:47.359,0:59:49.920
same pitfalls so i think the team that

0:59:49.119,0:59:52.400
joe biden

0:59:49.920,0:59:54.240
puts around him is really going to be

0:59:52.400,0:59:56.319
what contributes to his success more

0:59:54.240,0:59:57.760
than anything

0:59:56.319,0:59:59.280
so we’ll take a quick break we’ll come

0:59:57.760,1:00:01.200
back we’ll get any final thoughts that

0:59:59.280,1:00:02.200
you have and finish up with the podcast

1:00:01.200,1:00:07.440
business

1:00:02.200,1:00:10.400
[Music]

1:00:07.440,1:00:12.480
go for your final thoughts so i think

1:00:10.400,1:00:14.160
looking back at the trump legacy

1:00:12.480,1:00:15.839
one of the biggest appeals he had when

1:00:14.160,1:00:17.599
he went into office was people didn’t

1:00:15.839,1:00:19.839
want another career politician

1:00:17.599,1:00:20.960
they wanted something different and they

1:00:19.839,1:00:24.480
got that

1:00:20.960,1:00:26.880
and it overall i don’t think

1:00:24.480,1:00:29.119
was a good thing uh we look we’ve broken

1:00:26.880,1:00:31.520
it down into various different topics

1:00:29.119,1:00:32.640
but i think overall it had a negative

1:00:31.520,1:00:34.480
impact on the country

1:00:32.640,1:00:36.000
right and you ask yourself that’s a i

1:00:34.480,1:00:39.040
forget what president did this

1:00:36.000,1:00:39.359
but are you better off four years all

1:00:39.040,1:00:40.880
right

1:00:39.359,1:00:42.160
hang on i’m messing this up are you

1:00:40.880,1:00:42.640
better off now than you were four years

1:00:42.160,1:00:44.799
ago

1:00:42.640,1:00:46.960
and i think most people would say no

1:00:44.799,1:00:49.119
whether it’s for economic reasons or

1:00:46.960,1:00:50.559
the impact the coronavirus had on them

1:00:49.119,1:00:52.000
and obviously you can’t blame all these

1:00:50.559,1:00:54.079
things just on trump

1:00:52.000,1:00:55.200
however he was the president and he’s

1:00:54.079,1:00:57.680
supposed to be the leader

1:00:55.200,1:00:59.520
and i think it’s hard to disagree that

1:00:57.680,1:01:02.960
he failed as a leader

1:00:59.520,1:01:04.640
and hopefully you know there’s obviously

1:01:02.960,1:01:06.079
detriments to having a career politician

1:01:04.640,1:01:07.839
in power but i think

1:01:06.079,1:01:10.240
now that is what the country most likely

1:01:07.839,1:01:11.839
needs yeah i think this was a case of we

1:01:10.240,1:01:14.319
got what we asked for

1:01:11.839,1:01:16.240
and what we asked for was not what we

1:01:14.319,1:01:18.240
needed

1:01:16.240,1:01:19.280
it was a learning experience i think the

1:01:18.240,1:01:23.040
country

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will continue to feel the effects of for

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years to come

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but i think it’s it’s a learning

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experience that

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we won’t make that same mistake again

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um that was all we had for today uh

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thank you for your time i appreciate you

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coming to talk

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before we go i do want to throw the

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