Insights Into Tomorrow: Episode 10 “Decision 2020 Trump vs. Biden”

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Insights Into Tomorrow
Insights Into Tomorrow: Episode 10 “Decision 2020 Trump vs. Biden”
Host introductions
Host (Joseph Whalen)
My co-host (Sam Whalen)

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[SEGMENT 1: Topic Introduction/Episode Premise] (5-10 minutes)
The Tale of the Tape
Donald J. Trump
Political Affiliation: Republican
Previously: Reform, Democrat, Independent
Age: 74
From: Queens, New York
Spouse: Melania, married 2005
Previously: Ivana (1977-1992 div), Marla (1993-1999 div)
Children: Donald Jr, Ivanka, Eric, Tiffany, Barron
Alma Mater: Wharton School (BS in Economics)
Military Service:
4 student draft deferments while in college
1966 deemed fit for service
1968 (July) classified as eligible to serve
1968 (October) medically deferred as 1-Y (Unqualified for duty except in case of national emergency)
1972 reclassified 4-f due to bone spurs and permanently disqualified from service

Joseph R. Biden Jr.
Political Affiliation: Democrat
Age: 77
From: Scranton, PA
Spouse: Jill, married 1977
Previously: Neilia (1966-1972 dec)
Children: Hunter, Beau (dec), Ashley, Naomi (dec)
Alma Mater: Syracuse University (Law)
Military Service:
5 student draft deferments while in college
1968 medically deferred as 1-Y due to asthma (Unqualified for duty except in case of national emergency)

[AD1: SSE]

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/09/29/biden-trump-debate-primer
https://bit.ly/34JULwW
Round 1: Key Issues 10-9
Nominating the next Supreme Court Justice
Trump: Confirm nomination now
Biden: Wait until after the election
America: 53% would rather wait until after the election for confirmation

Handling the COVID-19 Pandemic
Trump: Declared victory and wants to move on
Biden: Wants to implement mandatory masks, social distancing and other recommendations from medical professionals
America:
45% confident in Biden
37% confident in Trump

Fixing the Economy
Trump: Thinks the economy is doing great and it’s the best there ever was
Biden: Acknowledges impact of COVID on out of work families
America:
37% think it will get better under Trump
32% think it will get better under Biden

Race and Violence in our Cities
Trump: Doesn’t think there’s systemic racism in the country, condemns violence
Biden: Acknowledges racism in the country, condemns violent protests
America:
39% think they are mostly violent riots
32% think they are peaceful protests

Integrity of the election
Trump: Attacking mail in voting as ripe with fraud
Biden: Encouraging people to vote any way they can
America:
16% have a great deal of confidence in the election
8% have no confidence at all in the election

[AD2: Teens] (1 minute)

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/08/13/perceptions-of-trump-and-biden/
https://pewrsr.ch/3kM0g40
Round 2: Top Reasons for Voting for each candidate 9-10

Donald Trump
Leadership/Performance
Trump – 23%
Biden – 19%
His issue/policy positions
Trump – 21%
Biden – 9%
He’s not (The other guy)
Biden – 56%
Trump – 19%
He is for American people and values
Trump – 17%
Biden – 6%
Republicans vs. Democrats
Trump – 16%
Biden – 7%
Personality/Temperament
Biden – 13%
Trump – 11%
Other
Biden – 13%
Trump – 12%
Don’t know/Refused to answer
Biden – 14%
Trump – 13%

Round 3: Personality Traits 10-9

Energetic
Trump – 56%
Biden – 40%

Courageous
Trump – 46%
Biden – 45%

Cares for needs of ordinary people
Biden – 54%
Trump – 41%

A good role model
Biden – 46%
Trump – 31%

Even-Tempered
Biden – 60%
Trump – 25%

[AD3: Entertainment] (1 minute)

Round 4: Voter Confidence on key Issues 10-8

Economic Policy
Trump – 51%
Biden – 48%

Law enforcement and criminal justice issues
Biden – 46%
Trump – 41%

Foreign Policy Issues
Biden – 50%
Trump 44%

Handling Coronavirus health impact
Biden – 52%
Trump – 41%

Race relations
Biden – 48%
Trump – 35%

Bring the country closer together
Biden – 45%
Trump – 31%

[TRANSITION]

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/09/29/biden-trump-debate-primer
Round 5: Honesty 10-9

Donald Trump
57% say he’s not honest
35% say he is

Joe Biden
48% say he’s honest
41% say he’s not honest

[TRANSITION]
[CLOSE]
Final thoughts/summary COHOST
Joe: 49-45

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welcome to insights into tomorrow this

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is episode

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10 decision 2020 trump versus biden i’m

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your host joseph whalen

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and my co-host sam whalen hello how you

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doing today sam

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doing all right the weather’s kind of

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lame but uh you know yeah it is pretty

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rough out there isn’t that cold and

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rainy but

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um you know inside’s warm so that is

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true and i don’t mind the cold i like

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the cold

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so we’ve danced around uh politics on

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this show

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for a little while now we’ve touched on

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it a little bit as impartially as

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possible

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last week we deliver last episode we

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deliberately avoided talking politics

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and opted for a bit of a softball topic

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but i don’t think we can avoid it this

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week no we are shooting this on sunday

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the sunday before

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the election on the third on tuesday so

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indeed

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um given the number of early votes that

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have been cast

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i don’t think anything that we say here

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is going to change anyone’s mind

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any more than any of the candidates

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campaigning out there are going to

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change anyone’s mind

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however i do think it’s a worthwhile

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discussion for us to have comparing the

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candidates

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um and i think we’re going to kind of go

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about this in a

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kind of a different way we’re going to

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do it scored sort of like a boxing match

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we’ll do a tale of the tape between the

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two candidates and look at some of their

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key vital information and then we’re

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going to do

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five rounds that are based on a couple

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of uh surveys that have been done

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over the past couple of weeks and we’ll

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score

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on a 10 point must each round what each

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candidate uh

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how they perform in these polls

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and then we’ll give our opinions at the

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end of

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who won why they won and so forth

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tale

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of the tape

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so we have two candidates that will be

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vying

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for the candidacy for president of the

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united states for the next four years

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the first is the incumbent

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the defending champion uh donald j

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trump uh we’re gonna look at their

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political affiliation their

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age where they’re from a little bit

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about their

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uh history their family history

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uh some education and some military uh

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status uh history that they have i’ll go

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down donald trump and

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how about you go down uh joe biden’s

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record all right

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so donald j trump’s political

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affiliation currently

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is republican he was previously

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a reform minded individual

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he was a democrat registered democrat

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and a registered independent

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he is now republican has been republican

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since

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at least 2016 when he bought i mean when

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he won the

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uh nomination from the republican party

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he is 74 years old he is as he has

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mentioned several times in his

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rallies in florida a senior citizen

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he is from queens new york originally

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he has been married multiple times

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his first marriage was to

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ivana from 77 to 92 which ended in

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divorce

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then he was married to maria

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from 93 to 99 and currently married to

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melania since 2005.

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he has four children five children

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he has don jr ivanka eric tiffany and

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baron tiffany we don’t hear too much

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about these days

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don jr and eric are very active

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as well as ivanka in his campaign and uh

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baron is

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uh under 18 at this point so he kind of

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stays below the radar

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uh his alma mater is wharton school of

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business which he transferred to

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from um i forget where he originally

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went

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it was in bronx new york i know that was

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where the school was but

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he’s a product of the wharton school of

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business he has a bs in economics

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military service uh this has been

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something that was kind of

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uh controversial for him in the past uh

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he had

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four student draft deferments while in

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college during the vietnam war

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uh in 66 he was deemed fit for service

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60 july of 68. he was classified as

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eligible to serve in october of 68 he

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was medically deferred as a

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one why unqualified for duty except in

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case of national emergency which i guess

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vietnam didn’t constitute a case of

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national emergency

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and then in 72 he was reclassified the

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4f

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due to bone spurs and permanently

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disqualified

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from the service and that is the tale of

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the tape

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for donald donald j trump

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tell us about joe biden okay so joseph r

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biden jr

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uh his political affiliation is a

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democrat like he’s been democrat his

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entire

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career his political career he is 77

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years old

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so three years older than donald trump

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uh he’s from scranton pa which i didn’t

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actually know that

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local ish kind of you know his spouse

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is jill biden they were married in 1977.

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he was previously married to new knight

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uh nelia sorry about that uh they were

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married from 1966 to 1972

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and unfortunately she passed away uh he

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has two children

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uh three children sorry four children

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and the count keeper no i know they’re

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hiding in there uh hunter

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beau who unfortunately passed away

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ashley and naomi who also unfortunately

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passed away

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his alma mater is syracuse university he

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got a degree in law there

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uh his military service he had five

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student draft deferments while in

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college

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and in 1968 he was medically deferred as

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a 1-y

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due to asthma and he much like donald

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trump

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unqualified for duty except in case of

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national emergency

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and that is joseph r biden so they are

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candidates that will be

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vying for president and uh

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we’ll be right back for round one

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so round one of our showdown here

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between uh

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donald trump and joe biden we’re going

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to be talking about the key issues

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this information comes from a survey

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done by a website called yougov.com

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and we have a couple of different issues

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that will kind of go

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down the route of where these

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candidates stand on the issues and where

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america

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survey of americans actually falls

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so the first key issue that we talk

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about is nominating the next supreme

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court justice

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obviously this has been done already

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she’s been confirmed

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trump uh his stance was to confirm the

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nomination

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immediately biden and the democrats

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wanted to wait until after the election

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when america was pulled on this

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53 percent of americans said they would

0:10:21.440,0:10:24.160
rather wait

0:10:22.240,0:10:25.680
until after the election for the

0:10:24.160,0:10:28.560
confirmation so the majority of

0:10:25.680,0:10:30.800
americans sided with biden on that one

0:10:28.560,0:10:32.800
what’s our next category uh so our next

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category is handling the covet 19

0:10:32.800,0:10:36.240
pandemic

0:10:33.920,0:10:36.959
uh president trump said he declared

0:10:36.240,0:10:38.959
victory

0:10:36.959,0:10:40.079
and wants to move on he had the virus

0:10:38.959,0:10:42.959
himself and

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proclaims to have been cured of it biden

0:10:42.959,0:10:46.640
wants to implement mandatory masks

0:10:45.360,0:10:47.920
social distancing and other

0:10:46.640,0:10:49.360
recommendations from medical

0:10:47.920,0:10:52.320
professionals

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america 45 percent of america was

0:10:52.320,0:10:56.000
confident in biden

0:10:53.920,0:10:58.000
while 37 percent were confident in trump

0:10:56.000,0:11:01.200
so it looks like most people

0:10:58.000,0:11:02.399
side with biden on that issue yes they

0:11:01.200,0:11:05.120
do

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the next is the economy and fixing the

0:11:05.120,0:11:09.040
economy

0:11:06.320,0:11:11.440
trump thinks the economy is doing great

0:11:09.040,0:11:14.240
and it’s the best there ever was

0:11:11.440,0:11:15.279
biden acknowledges the impact of covid

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on our workers

0:11:15.279,0:11:19.440
and our families america thinks 37

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percent

0:11:19.440,0:11:24.880
think things will get better under trump

0:11:22.480,0:11:27.279
and 32 percent think things will get

0:11:24.880,0:11:28.000
better under biden so america is siding

0:11:27.279,0:11:31.040
with donald

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trump on this one uh the next category

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race and violence in our cities

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uh trump doesn’t think there’s

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systematic racism in the country

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and condemns any violence uh biden

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acknowledges racism in the country and

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condemns the violent protests

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and supports the more peaceful ones

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americans 39 percent

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think they are mostly violent riots well

0:11:51.360,0:11:54.480
32 percent think they are peaceful

0:11:53.040,0:11:57.519
protest

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so it looks like most people are

0:11:57.519,0:12:00.959
swinging towards thinking their violent

0:11:58.959,0:12:04.000
rides um and

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are against that correct

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the next we look at and the last uh item

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we look at in this round

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is integrity of the election which has

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been quite controversial over the past

0:12:12.800,0:12:17.519
few months

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trump is attacking mail-in voting as

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right with fraud biden encourages people

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to vote

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any way they can especially considering

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the conditions we’re in

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under a pandemic america was

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asked if they have confidence in the

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election

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16 percent have a great deal of

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confidence in the election and the

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electoral process eight percent have no

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confidence

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at all in the election now it’s

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interesting to point out that there were

0:12:43.839,0:12:46.880
a number of other

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uh levels of confidence that were in

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this survey i took the top and the

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bottom here

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so the vast majority of people did fall

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in the middle

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i was kind of looking for those extremes

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here to see where people

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had that high degree or complete lack of

0:12:58.560,0:13:02.959
confidence

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so it looks like by a margin of 2 to 1

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people are siding with biden

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saying that this is they are confident

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in the election and process itself

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now that does bring an end to round one

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here

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and it was pretty well divided i think

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uh what are your opinions on round one

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yeah i mean it looks like most things

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were pretty split the way you’d think

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they would go

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um one thing that did surprise me was

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the eight percent having

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no confidence at all in the election i’m

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not sure what i thought the number would

0:13:30.079,0:13:32.880
be

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uh but eight percent honestly i thought

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it’d be a little bit higher

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given the the issues we had in the 2016

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election

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and in elections in the past and the

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all the rhetoric surrounding voting in

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general i thought that the number would

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be higher honestly

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yeah and i agree with you i’m surprised

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it was below 10 percent there i kind of

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figured it would edge a little bit

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higher

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but it is good to know that the vast

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majority of people do think that they

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they have confidence in the election so

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we are scoring these rounds

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on a 10-point scale 10-point must

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and uh we will tally up our totals at

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the end

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of the matches do we want to do uh each

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our scores each for each round or just

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count it all at the end well i would i

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would pencil in your your score now and

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then we’ll do the math at the end there

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and we’ll just give the totals

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so that’s it for round one we’ll be back

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in a minute with uh

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[Music]

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so round two uh we’re actually drawing

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our information from a

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survey done by pew research and all of

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the links to the surveys will be

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available on our website and our show

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notes

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after the podcast so round two we’re

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looking at the top reasons

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for voting for each candidate and

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we’re looking at donald

0:15:57.680,0:16:01.440
trump uh well we’re looking at both

0:16:00.240,0:16:02.480
candidates i’m sorry we’re looking at

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both candidates

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and we’re looking at several different

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categories so the first category we look

0:16:05.600,0:16:09.519
at

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was leadership and performance so we uh

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americans were asked

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to rate each candidate on each of these

0:16:13.680,0:16:17.920
categories

0:16:15.279,0:16:18.560
and for leadership and performance 23

0:16:17.920,0:16:21.440
percent

0:16:18.560,0:16:22.079
caster votes for donald trump while only

0:16:21.440,0:16:25.680
19

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percent cast their votes for joe biden

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so the next category is his issue or

0:16:27.759,0:16:32.079
policy positions

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uh in this instance 21 percent of people

0:16:32.079,0:16:35.519
voted for president trump here and only

0:16:34.240,0:16:37.199
9

0:16:35.519,0:16:39.600
voting for biden so by definitely

0:16:37.199,0:16:43.279
scoring low in that category

0:16:39.600,0:16:46.560
the next category is he’s not

0:16:43.279,0:16:49.440
the other guy which seems whimsical

0:16:46.560,0:16:50.000
but given the divisive nature of

0:16:49.440,0:16:51.519
politics

0:16:50.000,0:16:54.720
in our country today i think it’s pretty

0:16:51.519,0:16:56.399
significant 56 percent of people said

0:16:54.720,0:16:56.720
they would vote for biden because he’s

0:16:56.399,0:17:00.320
not

0:16:56.720,0:17:03.440
trump and only 19 said they would vote

0:17:00.320,0:17:07.199
for by trump over biden

0:17:03.440,0:17:08.160
now again this is not a category that

0:17:07.199,0:17:10.319
has any kind of

0:17:08.160,0:17:11.760
concrete provable evidence it’s

0:17:10.319,0:17:14.799
literally just

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opinion opinion of cannabis

0:17:14.799,0:17:18.480
uh so the next category he is for the

0:17:16.720,0:17:20.319
american people and values

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uh the candidates representation of

0:17:20.319,0:17:24.799
american people and values

0:17:21.919,0:17:25.600
uh trump uh scored 17 percent in that

0:17:24.799,0:17:27.600
category

0:17:25.600,0:17:29.280
and biden only scored six percent so

0:17:27.600,0:17:32.559
again biden falling

0:17:29.280,0:17:35.520
in the low percentages the

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next category we have is people who vote

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along

0:17:36.160,0:17:39.679
party lines so republicans vote

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republican

0:17:39.679,0:17:45.280
democrats vote down the democrat column

0:17:42.799,0:17:46.160
16 percent said they would vote for

0:17:45.280,0:17:48.960
trump

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seven percent vote for biden and i think

0:17:48.960,0:17:53.200
that is more

0:17:49.919,0:17:55.520
a statement of party loyalty

0:17:53.200,0:17:57.840
more than anything and i also think

0:17:55.520,0:17:59.679
that’s kind of reflective of what we saw

0:17:57.840,0:18:00.000
coming out of the primaries where we had

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20

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some people as candidates

0:18:03.679,0:18:09.280
that emerged on the democrat side

0:18:06.720,0:18:11.840
where the republicans obviously maintain

0:18:09.280,0:18:13.840
a fairly

0:18:11.840,0:18:15.760
single-minded race the whole time and i

0:18:13.840,0:18:16.240
think that statistic is reflective of

0:18:15.760,0:18:18.559
that

0:18:16.240,0:18:19.520
yeah so the next category is their

0:18:18.559,0:18:22.400
personality

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personality excuse me and temperament

0:18:22.400,0:18:25.440
biden

0:18:23.120,0:18:26.960
scoring 13 percent here and president

0:18:25.440,0:18:28.880
trump scoring 11

0:18:26.960,0:18:30.960
so biden pulling ahead with two extra

0:18:28.880,0:18:31.520
percent and it’s interesting given the

0:18:30.960,0:18:33.600
nature

0:18:31.520,0:18:36.160
of the first debate which this this

0:18:33.600,0:18:38.880
survey occurred after the first debate

0:18:36.160,0:18:39.600
i’m surprised that that margin isn’t

0:18:38.880,0:18:41.120
greater

0:18:39.600,0:18:43.200
in biden’s favor because of the amount

0:18:41.120,0:18:46.320
of criticism that that was

0:18:43.200,0:18:47.760
lambasted against trump for his

0:18:46.320,0:18:50.960
seemingly

0:18:47.760,0:18:51.840
overbearing bullying tendencies during

0:18:50.960,0:18:56.000
the

0:18:51.840,0:18:58.559
debate um the next category is simply

0:18:56.000,0:18:59.919
other it was not they had a prescription

0:18:58.559,0:19:02.320
of what

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questions they asked people and people

0:19:02.320,0:19:06.160
who answered for

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voting reasons outside of those wound up

0:19:06.160,0:19:10.640
in the other

0:19:08.160,0:19:12.400
and this is a statistical tie here biden

0:19:10.640,0:19:14.640
at 13

0:19:12.400,0:19:17.280
trump at 12 i think the margin of error

0:19:14.640,0:19:19.039
on this poll was four or five percent so

0:19:17.280,0:19:20.480
statistically insignificant to the

0:19:19.039,0:19:22.559
overall poll

0:19:20.480,0:19:23.520
and the final category is people that

0:19:22.559,0:19:25.679
did not know or

0:19:23.520,0:19:27.280
refuse to answer and again these are

0:19:25.679,0:19:29.760
pretty close biden with 14

0:19:27.280,0:19:32.240
and trump with 13 yeah so i think the

0:19:29.760,0:19:34.480
last two here we kind of can throw out

0:19:32.240,0:19:36.799
from a statistical standpoint

0:19:34.480,0:19:38.240
uh looking at the rest of these i think

0:19:36.799,0:19:40.960
it’s pretty clear that uh

0:19:38.240,0:19:42.480
donald trump uh won round two on this

0:19:40.960,0:19:46.160
one here

0:19:42.480,0:19:49.120
let’s move right into round three here

0:19:46.160,0:19:50.160
since that was a quick decisive round

0:19:49.120,0:19:53.280
round three

0:19:50.160,0:19:54.480
using the same poll looks at personality

0:19:53.280,0:19:57.919
traits

0:19:54.480,0:19:59.039
so we look at energetic being our first

0:19:57.919,0:20:01.440
one

0:19:59.039,0:20:02.320
56 percent of americans think that

0:20:01.440,0:20:05.280
donald trump

0:20:02.320,0:20:06.400
is more energetic than 40 percent who

0:20:05.280,0:20:09.120
think biden

0:20:06.400,0:20:10.159
is more energetic uh the next is

0:20:09.120,0:20:11.600
courageous or

0:20:10.159,0:20:13.200
you know how courage how much courage

0:20:11.600,0:20:16.880
they have uh trump

0:20:13.200,0:20:19.360
with 46 and biden close with 45

0:20:16.880,0:20:20.240
so just one percent difference there and

0:20:19.360,0:20:21.679
then we asked

0:20:20.240,0:20:24.080
americans well we didn’t but pew

0:20:21.679,0:20:26.559
research asked americans

0:20:24.080,0:20:27.679
who cares for the needs of ordinary

0:20:26.559,0:20:29.679
people

0:20:27.679,0:20:31.919
and this is where we see a bit of a

0:20:29.679,0:20:35.280
breakout here where biden

0:20:31.919,0:20:36.480
scores 54 of the confidence level from

0:20:35.280,0:20:40.000
voters

0:20:36.480,0:20:43.039
trump only 41 so

0:20:40.000,0:20:45.280
that that’s kind of a opinion statement

0:20:43.039,0:20:46.640
there as to who cares more

0:20:45.280,0:20:48.400
yeah and sort of in the same vein is

0:20:46.640,0:20:50.640
that the next category

0:20:48.400,0:20:52.320
a good role model and again biden

0:20:50.640,0:20:55.440
pulling ahead here 46

0:20:52.320,0:20:56.080
from biden with trump only getting 31 so

0:20:55.440,0:20:57.440
again

0:20:56.080,0:20:59.200
similar to cares for needs of an

0:20:57.440,0:21:00.720
ordinary people you’re seeing in the

0:20:59.200,0:21:02.960
personality realm biden

0:21:00.720,0:21:04.880
is pulling ahead a little bit right and

0:21:02.960,0:21:05.919
the last one that we have in round three

0:21:04.880,0:21:08.799
here

0:21:05.919,0:21:09.360
um i think this is a this is a knockout

0:21:08.799,0:21:12.320
blow

0:21:09.360,0:21:14.720
here and the last two were uh they asked

0:21:12.320,0:21:17.679
who do you think is more even tempered

0:21:14.720,0:21:19.440
sixty 60 of americans think that biden

0:21:17.679,0:21:22.799
is more even-tempered

0:21:19.440,0:21:26.080
than 25 of

0:21:22.799,0:21:28.159
uh trump supporters uh so i think

0:21:26.080,0:21:29.200
round three i i would definitely have to

0:21:28.159,0:21:32.000
give to

0:21:29.200,0:21:33.840
biden in this case here not only did he

0:21:32.000,0:21:35.440
win more of the categories but he won

0:21:33.840,0:21:38.559
them with a significantly

0:21:35.440,0:21:39.039
higher percentage uh difference than the

0:21:38.559,0:21:42.000
others

0:21:39.039,0:21:43.520
yep definitely but overall i’m i was

0:21:42.000,0:21:45.280
actually kind of surprised at this point

0:21:43.520,0:21:45.679
in time when i prepared the notes as to

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how

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even the two candidates really were at

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this point in time

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if we’re scoring on a 10-point must yeah

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we’re going to take another quick break

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here and we’ll be back

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we’re back with decision 2020

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wrong camera angle i was like hello

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decision 2020 trump versus biden we’re

0:23:25.840,0:23:29.760
about halfway through now we’re

0:23:27.840,0:23:31.600
scoring this on a 10-point must we did

0:23:29.760,0:23:33.840
our tail of the tape

0:23:31.600,0:23:34.880
halfway through now we’ve got two rounds

0:23:33.840,0:23:36.480
left to go

0:23:34.880,0:23:38.799
where do you think we stand on the

0:23:36.480,0:23:40.799
candidates well just doing a quick

0:23:38.799,0:23:42.400
uh i’m not going to reveal my score and

0:23:40.799,0:23:45.200
you know we got to tease it for the end

0:23:42.400,0:23:45.760
but just uh doing a quick totaling of my

0:23:45.200,0:23:47.919
scores

0:23:45.760,0:23:49.279
both candidates are pretty close um i

0:23:47.919,0:23:51.520
think in the most recent round in round

0:23:49.279,0:23:53.600
three we definitely saw biden pull ahead

0:23:51.520,0:23:55.440
just in terms of his personality

0:23:53.600,0:23:56.880
and i think that’s interesting because

0:23:55.440,0:23:58.400
if you look at

0:23:56.880,0:24:00.400
it being president is more than just

0:23:58.400,0:24:01.279
your personality it’s about policy

0:24:00.400,0:24:03.279
issues which

0:24:01.279,0:24:04.720
if we look at those rounds candidates

0:24:03.279,0:24:06.880
were much closer or

0:24:04.720,0:24:07.840
it’d lead to one towards you know

0:24:06.880,0:24:09.679
president trump

0:24:07.840,0:24:10.880
so it’s interesting to see how these

0:24:09.679,0:24:13.600
votes are coming down

0:24:10.880,0:24:14.960
and what people might value in a in a

0:24:13.600,0:24:15.760
presidential candidate or a president

0:24:14.960,0:24:17.679
themselves

0:24:15.760,0:24:18.960
yeah and i think part of that is the

0:24:17.679,0:24:21.279
fact that

0:24:18.960,0:24:23.120
you know donald trump has been president

0:24:21.279,0:24:24.640
for four years so we have a performance

0:24:23.120,0:24:26.799
that we can look at for comparison

0:24:24.640,0:24:28.640
purposes

0:24:26.799,0:24:30.640
biden has been out of office for four

0:24:28.640,0:24:32.480
years and when he was in office

0:24:30.640,0:24:34.320
he wasn’t president he was a vice

0:24:32.480,0:24:34.960
president he was a senator and so forth

0:24:34.320,0:24:36.880
so

0:24:34.960,0:24:39.120
i think when people look at policy

0:24:36.880,0:24:41.039
decisions they look at that

0:24:39.120,0:24:42.559
kind of differently given the roles that

0:24:41.039,0:24:44.240
biden’s been in the past and i don’t

0:24:42.559,0:24:46.960
think he gets

0:24:44.240,0:24:48.880
nearly as much attention or credit for

0:24:46.960,0:24:50.880
those policy decisions

0:24:48.880,0:24:52.640
um but especially from an economic

0:24:50.880,0:24:55.360
standpoint donald trump has

0:24:52.640,0:24:56.960
very much cast himself as well he’s

0:24:55.360,0:24:57.919
casting himself as the law and order

0:24:56.960,0:25:00.480
president

0:24:57.919,0:25:01.520
but he also hinges a lot of what his

0:25:00.480,0:25:04.320
performance is

0:25:01.520,0:25:06.240
on the economy how do you think that’s

0:25:04.320,0:25:08.080
affecting the survey results

0:25:06.240,0:25:09.760
well i think i mean at the end of the

0:25:08.080,0:25:10.799
day people care probably the most about

0:25:09.760,0:25:12.320
money right so

0:25:10.799,0:25:14.559
and if if trump’s able to frame it in

0:25:12.320,0:25:17.200
such a way that if you vote for me

0:25:14.559,0:25:19.039
i can keep the income flowing or i can

0:25:17.200,0:25:21.120
keep your families fed when in reality

0:25:19.039,0:25:24.240
at least from my point of view

0:25:21.120,0:25:26.640
given the cover 19 pandemic he hasn’t

0:25:24.240,0:25:27.360
done all that great of a job in terms of

0:25:26.640,0:25:28.640
keeping

0:25:27.360,0:25:29.840
like stimulus checks and things like

0:25:28.640,0:25:31.440
that i know that it was also the

0:25:29.840,0:25:32.640
democrats involved with that

0:25:31.440,0:25:35.760
about not being able to push that

0:25:32.640,0:25:36.799
through but i think it’s it’s not nearly

0:25:35.760,0:25:38.720
as cut and dry

0:25:36.799,0:25:40.640
as trump would like people to believe

0:25:38.720,0:25:42.640
where if if you vote for him

0:25:40.640,0:25:44.080
immediately the economy we will be

0:25:42.640,0:25:44.960
better and in turn your life will be

0:25:44.080,0:25:47.279
better

0:25:44.960,0:25:49.679
and i and i agree with you on that point

0:25:47.279,0:25:52.000
a lot of the things i think that

0:25:49.679,0:25:54.240
i would knock donald trump on here is

0:25:52.000,0:25:56.559
he’s telling you that

0:25:54.240,0:25:58.320
things are bad you know we have a we

0:25:56.559,0:26:01.279
have riots in the streets

0:25:58.320,0:26:01.600
you know if if you elect joe biden you

0:26:01.279,0:26:03.440
know

0:26:01.600,0:26:04.720
your taxes are going to go up and this

0:26:03.440,0:26:06.000
is going to happen and that’s going to

0:26:04.720,0:26:07.360
happen

0:26:06.000,0:26:09.279
and he cites a lot of things that are

0:26:07.360,0:26:12.480
happening right now

0:26:09.279,0:26:13.840
under a republican administration so i

0:26:12.480,0:26:17.520
find it difficult

0:26:13.840,0:26:21.360
to correlate that electing

0:26:17.520,0:26:23.039
biden would change things since

0:26:21.360,0:26:24.400
obviously we’re still having riots in

0:26:23.039,0:26:25.919
the streets now

0:26:24.400,0:26:28.000
most recently in our backyard in

0:26:25.919,0:26:29.600
philadelphia here

0:26:28.000,0:26:32.720
and that’s happening on donald trump’s

0:26:29.600,0:26:35.760
watch so why would that change

0:26:32.720,0:26:37.919
on joe biden’s watch yeah those ads

0:26:35.760,0:26:38.960
that make that argument they perplexed

0:26:37.919,0:26:40.880
me because

0:26:38.960,0:26:42.080
he presents this image of an america

0:26:40.880,0:26:44.159
that is burning

0:26:42.080,0:26:45.200
but he’s the president right and it’s

0:26:44.159,0:26:46.960
it’s

0:26:45.200,0:26:48.799
on one hand i can’t tell if it’s smart

0:26:46.960,0:26:50.880
or or not because

0:26:48.799,0:26:52.320
some people are probably believing it

0:26:50.880,0:26:54.080
yeah and that if they give him another

0:26:52.320,0:26:57.440
four years he can stop it all

0:26:54.080,0:26:57.919
but in a lot of instances he is at some

0:26:57.440,0:27:00.080
fault

0:26:57.919,0:27:02.000
for the state of things now anyway yeah

0:27:00.080,0:27:03.360
so i mean i know we don’t want to turn

0:27:02.000,0:27:05.440
into a trump matching thing but

0:27:03.360,0:27:06.960
like you said we’ve had four years of

0:27:05.440,0:27:08.400
his performance to critique and i guess

0:27:06.960,0:27:10.960
that’s probably why we’re

0:27:08.400,0:27:12.400
leaning yeah that way well and he makes

0:27:10.960,0:27:14.080
you know he makes a point of talking

0:27:12.400,0:27:17.360
about the forest fires out

0:27:14.080,0:27:21.039
in in the uh on the west coast there

0:27:17.360,0:27:23.520
and a lot of experts make a case

0:27:21.039,0:27:24.640
for the forest fires being as bad as

0:27:23.520,0:27:27.039
they are because

0:27:24.640,0:27:28.720
of environmental issues global warming

0:27:27.039,0:27:29.600
and so forth the drought that’s been out

0:27:28.720,0:27:31.440
there

0:27:29.600,0:27:33.440
and donald trump tends to counter saying

0:27:31.440,0:27:35.039
well it’s forest management

0:27:33.440,0:27:36.720
well two-thirds of the land that’s

0:27:35.039,0:27:39.360
burning is

0:27:36.720,0:27:41.279
managed by the federal forest service

0:27:39.360,0:27:43.279
which is under his control

0:27:41.279,0:27:45.279
so if there’s a issue with forest

0:27:43.279,0:27:45.679
management it’s the administration

0:27:45.279,0:27:48.720
that’s

0:27:45.679,0:27:51.039
falling down on that um and

0:27:48.720,0:27:53.600
and i look at that the response that he

0:27:51.039,0:27:56.720
has and i have to question

0:27:53.600,0:27:59.120
really the veracity of it and then

0:27:56.720,0:28:01.039
even getting to something as simple as

0:27:59.120,0:28:03.760
the slogan you know biden is

0:28:01.039,0:28:05.279
uh build back better which okay that’s

0:28:03.760,0:28:08.640
kind of lean but

0:28:05.279,0:28:10.720
sure it’s different um but trump is

0:28:08.640,0:28:12.159
sticking with make america great again

0:28:10.720,0:28:14.240
and i have to wonder if that’s really

0:28:12.159,0:28:16.960
helping you out you were

0:28:14.240,0:28:18.000
you campaigned in 2016 with make america

0:28:16.960,0:28:20.720
great again

0:28:18.000,0:28:23.039
you got four years and you’re

0:28:20.720,0:28:24.480
campaigning on make america great again

0:28:23.039,0:28:26.399
are you saying that in the first four

0:28:24.480,0:28:29.200
years you didn’t make america great

0:28:26.399,0:28:30.640
yeah yeah sorry if that’s the case why

0:28:29.200,0:28:32.320
would i vote for you again

0:28:30.640,0:28:33.840
for another four years yeah i think

0:28:32.320,0:28:35.120
sometimes he’ll change it up and say

0:28:33.840,0:28:36.799
keep america great

0:28:35.120,0:28:38.320
but if this is our definition of

0:28:36.799,0:28:39.840
greatness it’s not

0:28:38.320,0:28:42.080
one that i would like to subscribe to

0:28:39.840,0:28:44.640
right right so it just

0:28:42.080,0:28:45.120
we seem to get very confusing messages

0:28:44.640,0:28:46.960
out of

0:28:45.120,0:28:48.240
out of the trump campaign at this point

0:28:46.960,0:28:50.000
in time

0:28:48.240,0:28:52.559
but you know on the opposite side we

0:28:50.000,0:28:53.679
have a number of controversies out there

0:28:52.559,0:28:55.679
that are

0:28:53.679,0:28:56.880
brewing around biden you know we’re

0:28:55.679,0:28:58.720
talking

0:28:56.880,0:29:00.559
packing the supreme court we’re talking

0:28:58.720,0:29:03.039
the whole hunter biden

0:29:00.559,0:29:05.039
laptop thing which is or isn’t an issue

0:29:03.039,0:29:07.360
and that’s still up for debate

0:29:05.039,0:29:09.279
but a lot of the tough questions

0:29:07.360,0:29:10.799
fracking being another one

0:29:09.279,0:29:13.600
a lot of the tough questions that are

0:29:10.799,0:29:15.520
being pushed at joe biden are

0:29:13.600,0:29:17.760
basically being ignored they’re not

0:29:15.520,0:29:19.039
being responded to and

0:29:17.760,0:29:21.200
and i don’t know if that’s a good

0:29:19.039,0:29:23.360
strategy in that

0:29:21.200,0:29:26.399
maybe his handlers are afraid of the

0:29:23.360,0:29:28.240
response that he’s going to give

0:29:26.399,0:29:30.080
if you look at his response on fracking

0:29:28.240,0:29:33.600
it’s been

0:29:30.080,0:29:35.919
fragmented it’s been inconsistent

0:29:33.600,0:29:36.960
and he’s countered previous statements a

0:29:35.919,0:29:40.399
number of times

0:29:36.960,0:29:40.960
during the campaign or is he just

0:29:40.399,0:29:43.440
avoiding

0:29:40.960,0:29:44.799
answering the tough questions yeah i

0:29:43.440,0:29:46.880
think it’s a little bit of both

0:29:44.799,0:29:48.399
and talking about fracking he when he

0:29:46.880,0:29:51.039
talks about the pandemic

0:29:48.399,0:29:51.679
he is all in favor of science and things

0:29:51.039,0:29:54.960
like that

0:29:51.679,0:29:56.960
but when it comes to fracking which is

0:29:54.960,0:29:58.080
you know scientists say is a bad thing

0:29:56.960,0:30:00.000
he’s all for it

0:29:58.080,0:30:01.440
so there’s conflicting messages there

0:30:00.000,0:30:02.480
and obviously with every politician

0:30:01.440,0:30:03.919
you’re gonna have

0:30:02.480,0:30:05.679
that you’re gonna have them conflict

0:30:03.919,0:30:08.880
with themselves but

0:30:05.679,0:30:10.720
i don’t know it’s it’s not necessarily

0:30:08.880,0:30:12.799
directly lying but it makes you wonder

0:30:10.720,0:30:15.039
if he does get four years in office

0:30:12.799,0:30:16.159
how that is that dichotomy almost is

0:30:15.039,0:30:17.039
going to be reflected in the

0:30:16.159,0:30:20.399
administration

0:30:17.039,0:30:21.840
yeah yeah should be interesting well

0:30:20.399,0:30:23.919
let’s get on to the second half of the

0:30:21.840,0:30:26.799
match here so round four

0:30:23.919,0:30:28.240
we’re going to uh the voters were asked

0:30:26.799,0:30:31.279
what their confidence is

0:30:28.240,0:30:34.320
on each candidate in certain key issues

0:30:31.279,0:30:35.600
and the first key issue again economic

0:30:34.320,0:30:37.840
policy

0:30:35.600,0:30:39.120
so 51 percent of people are more

0:30:37.840,0:30:42.159
confident

0:30:39.120,0:30:45.120
in trump’s economic policy

0:30:42.159,0:30:45.500
than biden who we only have a 48 but

0:30:45.120,0:30:46.720
again

0:30:45.500,0:30:48.320
[Music]

0:30:46.720,0:30:50.159
we have a four or five four to five

0:30:48.320,0:30:51.679
percent margin of error so that’s

0:30:50.159,0:30:54.000
statistically

0:30:51.679,0:30:54.880
irrelevant when it in the grand scheme

0:30:54.000,0:30:56.640
of things

0:30:54.880,0:30:58.320
so i’m not sure we can we can really

0:30:56.640,0:30:59.279
choose a winner from that one what’s our

0:30:58.320,0:31:00.640
next category

0:30:59.279,0:31:03.039
uh so the next category is law

0:31:00.640,0:31:05.919
enforcement and criminal justice issues

0:31:03.039,0:31:06.720
uh biden uh pulling ahead here with 46

0:31:05.919,0:31:09.279
percent

0:31:06.720,0:31:10.399
of confidence while trump has 41 percent

0:31:09.279,0:31:12.480
and i think that’s

0:31:10.399,0:31:14.720
again having four years of trump i think

0:31:12.480,0:31:16.720
that that is a reflection in this poll

0:31:14.720,0:31:18.080
because he president trump is dealing

0:31:16.720,0:31:21.200
with currently

0:31:18.080,0:31:22.640
with uh civil unrest quote unquote and

0:31:21.200,0:31:24.399
his issues and his takes on law

0:31:22.640,0:31:25.679
enforcement and how that should be

0:31:24.399,0:31:26.880
implemented so i think that you know

0:31:25.679,0:31:27.600
that’s how we’re what we’re seeing in

0:31:26.880,0:31:29.600
these polls

0:31:27.600,0:31:31.039
and i would tend to agree i don’t think

0:31:29.600,0:31:34.080
biden really has

0:31:31.039,0:31:36.720
any record on law enforcement

0:31:34.080,0:31:37.760
uh in the 47 years that he’s been in the

0:31:36.720,0:31:41.679
senate

0:31:37.760,0:31:44.159
um so i can’t i’m puzzled as to

0:31:41.679,0:31:45.519
why he’s he’s scoring so high here i

0:31:44.159,0:31:46.000
think it’s more a matter of trump

0:31:45.519,0:31:49.360
scoring

0:31:46.000,0:31:52.480
low than biden scoring high

0:31:49.360,0:31:55.440
and i think that’s just a product of

0:31:52.480,0:31:56.080
he’s different right so the next one we

0:31:55.440,0:31:59.840
have is

0:31:56.080,0:32:02.240
handling the coronavirus health impact

0:31:59.840,0:32:04.480
and here we get a significant percentage

0:32:02.240,0:32:05.679
difference as well oh actually no i’m

0:32:04.480,0:32:06.880
sorry i skipped the cut i would have

0:32:05.679,0:32:09.200
just read that

0:32:06.880,0:32:10.080
yeah i skipped a category foreign policy

0:32:09.200,0:32:12.559
issues

0:32:10.080,0:32:14.159
so in this in this year we have a six

0:32:12.559,0:32:15.519
point lead so this is a this is a

0:32:14.159,0:32:18.799
statistical

0:32:15.519,0:32:19.519
um a lead that we can cite here biden

0:32:18.799,0:32:22.399
has been

0:32:19.519,0:32:25.120
graded with a 50 level of confidence

0:32:22.399,0:32:27.600
versus trump’s 44

0:32:25.120,0:32:29.600
and i think this kind of speaks to both

0:32:27.600,0:32:31.200
of them biden definitely has a foreign

0:32:29.600,0:32:35.600
policy history

0:32:31.200,0:32:38.159
both in the senate and as vice president

0:32:35.600,0:32:39.360
and trump most definitely has a foreign

0:32:38.159,0:32:42.880
policy history

0:32:39.360,0:32:46.720
in his last four years which

0:32:42.880,0:32:47.679
given the countries that we seem to be

0:32:46.720,0:32:50.960
more

0:32:47.679,0:32:53.600
closely friendly with and those that we

0:32:50.960,0:32:57.200
are less friendly with i think

0:32:53.600,0:32:58.720
speaks volumes uh so the next category

0:32:57.200,0:32:59.519
is handling the coronavirus health

0:32:58.720,0:33:02.159
impact

0:32:59.519,0:33:03.279
uh biden uh wins this category getting

0:33:02.159,0:33:05.120
52 percent

0:33:03.279,0:33:06.799
while trump only has 41 percent and

0:33:05.120,0:33:07.360
again we’re seeing this recurring thing

0:33:06.799,0:33:09.200
with this

0:33:07.360,0:33:10.399
round specifically but i think it’s

0:33:09.200,0:33:12.080
about

0:33:10.399,0:33:14.000
i’m gonna repeat myself here but trump

0:33:12.080,0:33:16.880
having four years and biden

0:33:14.000,0:33:17.760
giving policy promises for if he were to

0:33:16.880,0:33:19.679
win the election

0:33:17.760,0:33:20.880
what his administration would look like

0:33:19.679,0:33:22.399
so i wonder if

0:33:20.880,0:33:24.640
trump falling behind a lot of these

0:33:22.399,0:33:25.360
categories is more just people wanting

0:33:24.640,0:33:27.760
something different

0:33:25.360,0:33:28.880
from biden or something better and on a

0:33:27.760,0:33:30.399
lot of these issues

0:33:28.880,0:33:32.399
well i think specifically the

0:33:30.399,0:33:35.200
coronavirus this sort of

0:33:32.399,0:33:36.799
came to a head in the second debate

0:33:35.200,0:33:40.399
where

0:33:36.799,0:33:44.799
the performance that trump has put up

0:33:40.399,0:33:47.679
for the pandemic we’re currently in

0:33:44.799,0:33:49.919
is abysmal given the number of

0:33:47.679,0:33:51.919
infections the number of deaths

0:33:49.919,0:33:54.080
the performance in relation to other

0:33:51.919,0:33:57.279
countries who have had it

0:33:54.080,0:34:00.720
the united states is last um

0:33:57.279,0:34:04.720
hands down and during the second

0:34:00.720,0:34:07.760
debate uh trump tried to sort of

0:34:04.720,0:34:11.359
retaliate or or punch back

0:34:07.760,0:34:15.200
on this when they talked about the h1n1

0:34:11.359,0:34:18.480
uh virus that struck during the

0:34:15.200,0:34:21.280
uh obama bind administration and

0:34:18.480,0:34:22.960
claimed that had they dealt with this

0:34:21.280,0:34:25.040
virus then the same way

0:34:22.960,0:34:26.960
the death toll would have been

0:34:25.040,0:34:29.119
monstrously higher two million people i

0:34:26.960,0:34:30.879
think is what he was quoted as

0:34:29.119,0:34:33.440
and when you look at the performance of

0:34:30.879,0:34:35.679
the obama and biden administration

0:34:33.440,0:34:38.240
the death toll was insignificant

0:34:35.679,0:34:40.639
compared to what we’re seeing now

0:34:38.240,0:34:41.520
and i think i think trump failed to make

0:34:40.639,0:34:44.879
a case

0:34:41.520,0:34:46.839
for a failure on biden’s part in the

0:34:44.879,0:34:51.440
first pandemic

0:34:46.839,0:34:54.560
which in combination with his

0:34:51.440,0:34:56.399
abysmal handling of it and i there’s

0:34:54.560,0:34:59.440
very few people i think that can

0:34:56.399,0:35:01.119
provide a convincing argument otherwise

0:34:59.440,0:35:02.560
i think those two things combined is

0:35:01.119,0:35:05.200
what’s really killing the

0:35:02.560,0:35:06.240
the public confidence i mean trump has

0:35:05.200,0:35:08.320
has declared that

0:35:06.240,0:35:10.400
the virus is over and we’ve got a

0:35:08.320,0:35:12.400
thousand people a day dying so it’s it’s

0:35:10.400,0:35:14.240
kind of hard to have any confidence in

0:35:12.400,0:35:14.880
someone who has that kind of distorted

0:35:14.240,0:35:16.400
version

0:35:14.880,0:35:17.920
yeah and on that issue also pulling out

0:35:16.400,0:35:19.599
of the world health organization in the

0:35:17.920,0:35:22.480
middle of a pandemic

0:35:19.599,0:35:23.920
i don’t know who green lit that i’m sure

0:35:22.480,0:35:25.359
it was probably mostly

0:35:23.920,0:35:27.599
president trump pushing for that given

0:35:25.359,0:35:28.880
his opinions on funding the world health

0:35:27.599,0:35:30.480
organization which

0:35:28.880,0:35:32.240
if you just do a cursory amount of

0:35:30.480,0:35:33.359
research it’s not quite as black and

0:35:32.240,0:35:36.480
white as he’s presenting it

0:35:33.359,0:35:38.400
right but i think things like that

0:35:36.480,0:35:40.320
whether they’re for in his mind the

0:35:38.400,0:35:42.400
right reasons are not they send

0:35:40.320,0:35:44.079
the wrong message to not only the

0:35:42.400,0:35:46.400
american people but to the rest of the

0:35:44.079,0:35:48.160
world on how america is handling this

0:35:46.400,0:35:49.760
and you’re seeing that with travel

0:35:48.160,0:35:50.720
restrictions being put back on americans

0:35:49.760,0:35:53.200
going to other countries

0:35:50.720,0:35:54.640
and cases continuing to rise every day

0:35:53.200,0:35:57.680
yeah well not only did he pull us out of

0:35:54.640,0:36:00.400
the world health organization he’s also

0:35:57.680,0:36:01.920
he has a crusade going to repeal the

0:36:00.400,0:36:03.760
affordable care act

0:36:01.920,0:36:05.520
which would leave 20 million plus

0:36:03.760,0:36:08.079
americans without health care during a

0:36:05.520,0:36:08.079
pandemic

0:36:08.320,0:36:13.119
maybe the aca probably maybe it needs to

0:36:11.119,0:36:15.359
be recalled and needs to be reworked and

0:36:13.119,0:36:16.880
something else put out

0:36:15.359,0:36:18.880
he doesn’t have a plan he hasn’t put a

0:36:16.880,0:36:20.079
plan forward it’s coming every two weeks

0:36:18.880,0:36:22.480
it’s coming

0:36:20.079,0:36:24.400
so until you have something that’s a

0:36:22.480,0:36:25.680
viable replacement that’s better

0:36:24.400,0:36:26.960
you can’t withdraw withdrawal and it’s

0:36:25.680,0:36:28.079
already made its way to the supreme

0:36:26.960,0:36:29.760
court we’re waiting on a vote for the

0:36:28.079,0:36:31.359
supreme court yeah and instead

0:36:29.760,0:36:32.800
it’s easy to say all these things about

0:36:31.359,0:36:35.440
trump because we don’t have a

0:36:32.800,0:36:36.880
biden in this situation and maybe things

0:36:35.440,0:36:37.599
would have gone just as poorly if biden

0:36:36.880,0:36:39.040
was in charge

0:36:37.599,0:36:41.599
but that’s not really the point the

0:36:39.040,0:36:43.040
point is trump was in charge and

0:36:41.599,0:36:45.359
this these are the consequences of his

0:36:43.040,0:36:48.400
actions that’s exactly yeah

0:36:45.359,0:36:52.400
so the next uh category we have um

0:36:48.400,0:36:56.240
which is a another clear victory for

0:36:52.400,0:37:00.320
um biden is race relations

0:36:56.240,0:37:03.359
uh 48 of americans are confident

0:37:00.320,0:37:06.560
in biden versus 35 and again

0:37:03.359,0:37:10.160
this is this is a direct reflection

0:37:06.560,0:37:12.960
of the last four years of

0:37:10.160,0:37:13.520
division that we saw under trump now

0:37:12.960,0:37:15.839
looking at

0:37:13.520,0:37:18.160
biden’s record biden does not have a

0:37:15.839,0:37:21.359
stellar record on race relations he’s

0:37:18.160,0:37:24.960
made comments in the past he’s had

0:37:21.359,0:37:27.520
policy decisions in the past that were

0:37:24.960,0:37:29.280
not in the best interest of minorities

0:37:27.520,0:37:31.200
and a lot of that is just being

0:37:29.280,0:37:32.560
overshadowed by the fact that donald

0:37:31.200,0:37:35.200
trump

0:37:32.560,0:37:36.160
in many cases has aligned himself with

0:37:35.200,0:37:39.359
white supremacist

0:37:36.160,0:37:41.839
groups he refuses to condemn them he’s

0:37:39.359,0:37:43.760
made comments to the effect that

0:37:41.839,0:37:45.599
you know there are decent people in the

0:37:43.760,0:37:49.599
kkk

0:37:45.599,0:37:52.079
he was asked to condemn the proud boys

0:37:49.599,0:37:54.400
on the debate stage and instead of

0:37:52.079,0:37:56.079
saying you know stand down it was stand

0:37:54.400,0:37:58.560
back and stand by

0:37:56.079,0:37:59.200
which is a very very different message

0:37:58.560,0:38:03.599
than stand

0:37:59.200,0:38:04.000
down um so this is a direct reflection i

0:38:03.599,0:38:06.160
think

0:38:04.000,0:38:07.760
on trump’s handling of the race relation

0:38:06.160,0:38:10.320
issue and just recently

0:38:07.760,0:38:11.839
the other day wasn’t and i know i don’t

0:38:10.320,0:38:13.040
want to speak out of turn here because i

0:38:11.839,0:38:13.599
don’t have the information in front of

0:38:13.040,0:38:17.040
me

0:38:13.599,0:38:19.599
but wasn’t biden’s bus uh confronted

0:38:17.040,0:38:21.920
with white supremacists down in florida

0:38:19.599,0:38:23.200
texas that was that was actually today

0:38:21.920,0:38:25.040
or yesterday

0:38:23.200,0:38:26.560
they were going to a rally they canceled

0:38:25.040,0:38:29.119
the rally because

0:38:26.560,0:38:30.240
trump supporters in pickup trucks

0:38:29.119,0:38:32.079
surrounded the bus

0:38:30.240,0:38:33.839
driving down the highway yeah and i

0:38:32.079,0:38:35.839
don’t know if if trump has a

0:38:33.839,0:38:36.880
has commented on that at all but either

0:38:35.839,0:38:38.880
way

0:38:36.880,0:38:41.440
it’s difficult to argue that these

0:38:38.880,0:38:43.760
things would not be happening if trump

0:38:41.440,0:38:44.560
president trump was not in office i i

0:38:43.760,0:38:47.599
agree and

0:38:44.560,0:38:50.240
and you can’t necessarily knock trump

0:38:47.599,0:38:50.960
for the the actions of every one of his

0:38:50.240,0:38:53.280
supporters

0:38:50.960,0:38:54.800
yeah what you can knock him for is his

0:38:53.280,0:38:56.560
reaction to it

0:38:54.800,0:38:58.079
you know he should have immediately come

0:38:56.560,0:39:00.800
out and condemned

0:38:58.079,0:39:03.280
that type of action and the other thing

0:39:00.800,0:39:05.599
you have to keep in mind is

0:39:03.280,0:39:07.200
vice president presidential candidates

0:39:05.599,0:39:09.839
have secret service

0:39:07.200,0:39:10.640
protection details so you have these

0:39:09.839,0:39:13.680
highly trained

0:39:10.640,0:39:14.480
individuals with weapons that are being

0:39:13.680,0:39:17.119
provoked

0:39:14.480,0:39:17.760
by these protesters american citizens

0:39:17.119,0:39:20.560
yeah

0:39:17.760,0:39:21.599
and and the fact that this is being

0:39:20.560,0:39:24.480
allowed to happen is

0:39:21.599,0:39:25.119
is extraordinary during an election yeah

0:39:24.480,0:39:27.119
i guess

0:39:25.119,0:39:28.320
speaking of all that the final category

0:39:27.119,0:39:29.520
we have here is bringing the country

0:39:28.320,0:39:30.640
closer together

0:39:29.520,0:39:32.880
obviously we’re just talking about

0:39:30.640,0:39:35.760
division and things like that uh

0:39:32.880,0:39:36.560
biden here getting 45 and trump getting

0:39:35.760,0:39:39.599
31

0:39:36.560,0:39:41.599
so again biden pulling ahead so

0:39:39.599,0:39:43.119
how do you how would you rate round four

0:39:41.599,0:39:45.359
at this point well it

0:39:43.119,0:39:46.960
definitely looks like biden overall

0:39:45.359,0:39:49.200
winning more categories here

0:39:46.960,0:39:50.800
but again is it just because we have

0:39:49.200,0:39:51.920
four years of donald trump and we want

0:39:50.800,0:39:52.720
something people want something

0:39:51.920,0:39:56.000
different

0:39:52.720,0:39:58.480
and i mean with things like

0:39:56.000,0:39:59.520
race relations we talk about how biden

0:39:58.480,0:40:02.400
has

0:39:59.520,0:40:04.480
certain issues with it in his past but

0:40:02.400,0:40:06.240
when you compare it to trump it’s

0:40:04.480,0:40:08.640
it’s it’s almost apples and oranges in

0:40:06.240,0:40:10.720
terms of of quantity of evidence

0:40:08.640,0:40:12.000
and i think that that is the reason that

0:40:10.720,0:40:13.040
biden pulls ahead in so many of these

0:40:12.000,0:40:15.359
categories

0:40:13.040,0:40:16.880
is the amount of evidence for each of

0:40:15.359,0:40:20.000
them on these issues

0:40:16.880,0:40:23.440
yeah and and you know it’s funny that

0:40:20.000,0:40:24.800
that you you say the phrase people might

0:40:23.440,0:40:26.960
just want something different because

0:40:24.800,0:40:29.200
that’s exactly what swept donald trump

0:40:26.960,0:40:31.359
in the office in 2016

0:40:29.200,0:40:34.480
was the idea that it’s not politics as

0:40:31.359,0:40:37.119
usual i’m different i’m not a politician

0:40:34.480,0:40:39.040
people are tired of politicians i’m

0:40:37.119,0:40:41.280
going to drain the swamp

0:40:39.040,0:40:42.560
so he swept into office under the

0:40:41.280,0:40:46.000
premise of

0:40:42.560,0:40:48.880
i’m different and now he’s under

0:40:46.000,0:40:49.359
real threat of being swept out for

0:40:48.880,0:40:51.760
people

0:40:49.359,0:40:54.000
looking for something different and his

0:40:51.760,0:40:56.240
premise was well you’ve had

0:40:54.000,0:40:57.359
50 years of politics as usual i’m

0:40:56.240,0:41:00.480
different

0:40:57.359,0:41:02.000
we’ve had four years of trump and

0:41:00.480,0:41:04.000
americans seem to want something

0:41:02.000,0:41:06.319
different now

0:41:04.000,0:41:08.240
so i’m not really sure where that

0:41:06.319,0:41:09.839
statement actually leads the country

0:41:08.240,0:41:12.000
yeah and i think that happens any time

0:41:09.839,0:41:14.240
you have the incumbent president

0:41:12.000,0:41:15.680
going against another the other

0:41:14.240,0:41:17.839
candidate from the other party

0:41:15.680,0:41:19.440
it’s always well i didn’t like what they

0:41:17.839,0:41:20.319
did so i’m going to vote for somebody

0:41:19.440,0:41:21.359
different whereas if you have a

0:41:20.319,0:41:23.280
president that

0:41:21.359,0:41:24.400
is overall liked in their first term

0:41:23.280,0:41:25.920
they’re more likely to get reelected

0:41:24.400,0:41:27.359
because people want more of the same

0:41:25.920,0:41:29.520
and we’re not seeing that here i don’t

0:41:27.359,0:41:31.599
think well the one thing i think that’s

0:41:29.520,0:41:33.359
very different about this race than i

0:41:31.599,0:41:34.640
think i’ve ever seen in the history of

0:41:33.359,0:41:36.319
politics

0:41:34.640,0:41:37.680
is you look at the national conventions

0:41:36.319,0:41:39.760
for each party

0:41:37.680,0:41:40.960
and the democratic national convention

0:41:39.760,0:41:43.839
quite literally had

0:41:40.960,0:41:45.599
more respectable republicans speaking in

0:41:43.839,0:41:48.160
favor of biden

0:41:45.599,0:41:50.800
than donald trump had in total speaking

0:41:48.160,0:41:52.560
at the republican national convention

0:41:50.800,0:41:55.280
when more republicans show up for the

0:41:52.560,0:41:57.680
democratic national convention

0:41:55.280,0:41:58.720
i think you’re seeing a divide in a

0:41:57.680,0:42:01.520
party where the par

0:41:58.720,0:42:02.000
that party has been very consciously

0:42:01.520,0:42:05.040
trying to

0:42:02.000,0:42:07.440
cover up that divide at this point and

0:42:05.040,0:42:09.440
the race that we’re looking at here

0:42:07.440,0:42:11.359
is not really just a race for the

0:42:09.440,0:42:14.720
president it’s a race for

0:42:11.359,0:42:17.200
the senate and the house right now the

0:42:14.720,0:42:19.359
the republicans control a majority there

0:42:17.200,0:42:21.920
so anything that the democrats try to do

0:42:19.359,0:42:23.520
is being thwarted and there’s a real

0:42:21.920,0:42:25.200
threat right now because

0:42:23.520,0:42:27.839
of how the country has been in the last

0:42:25.200,0:42:29.599
four years under a republican president

0:42:27.839,0:42:30.960
that not only do you see the executive

0:42:29.599,0:42:33.119
office switch

0:42:30.960,0:42:34.160
you may see enough seats in the senate

0:42:33.119,0:42:36.319
switch

0:42:34.160,0:42:38.560
that you could have a democratic

0:42:36.319,0:42:40.400
president and a democratic-controlled

0:42:38.560,0:42:42.640
congress

0:42:40.400,0:42:45.119
that will dominate for the next at least

0:42:42.640,0:42:46.880
two years until the midterms

0:42:45.119,0:42:48.319
so that could have a significant impact

0:42:46.880,0:42:49.440
on the future of this country

0:42:48.319,0:42:52.000
yeah and we’re not even taking into

0:42:49.440,0:42:54.240
account the supreme court too um having

0:42:52.000,0:42:55.119
majority republican judges is also going

0:42:54.240,0:42:56.800
to affect

0:42:55.119,0:42:58.720
how well and let’s not call them

0:42:56.800,0:42:59.280
republican judges that’s kind of unfair

0:42:58.720,0:43:01.760
because

0:42:59.280,0:43:03.040
you know they are impartial but they’ve

0:43:01.760,0:43:05.760
been

0:43:03.040,0:43:06.319
republican appointed judges yeah sorry

0:43:05.760,0:43:09.680
that’s

0:43:06.319,0:43:11.760
closer to what i meant um but those

0:43:09.680,0:43:13.760
appointing uh judges are also going to

0:43:11.760,0:43:16.960
affect how a lot of decisions will go

0:43:13.760,0:43:19.599
yeah you know whether you’re a trump

0:43:16.960,0:43:21.599
supporter or not the fact that he’s had

0:43:19.599,0:43:24.960
the opportunity to appoint

0:43:21.599,0:43:27.920
three justices to the supreme court when

0:43:24.960,0:43:29.920
in four years he’s gone through more

0:43:27.920,0:43:33.520
members of his administration than

0:43:29.920,0:43:35.359
than any other administration before

0:43:33.520,0:43:37.280
which to me if i look at it from from a

0:43:35.359,0:43:38.640
hiring manager standpoint if you go

0:43:37.280,0:43:40.240
through that many people in that short

0:43:38.640,0:43:41.839
period of time

0:43:40.240,0:43:44.880
you’re probably a terrible judge of

0:43:41.839,0:43:47.520
character when it comes to hiring people

0:43:44.880,0:43:49.040
and based on that revolving door policy

0:43:47.520,0:43:51.280
on his administration

0:43:49.040,0:43:52.720
he’s got three people appointed to the

0:43:51.280,0:43:56.800
highest court in the land for

0:43:52.720,0:43:58.640
life terms that will have

0:43:56.800,0:44:00.800
far reaching impacts on the future of

0:43:58.640,0:44:04.400
this company country than anything

0:44:00.800,0:44:08.480
yep um and that’s kind of alarming

0:44:04.400,0:44:11.359
you know even if you aren’t a of

0:44:08.480,0:44:12.960
democrat i think it’s alarming that any

0:44:11.359,0:44:13.599
single individual has that much of an

0:44:12.960,0:44:16.880
influence

0:44:13.599,0:44:17.599
over the supreme court so that was it

0:44:16.880,0:44:20.640
for round

0:44:17.599,0:44:24.319
four we have one more round

0:44:20.640,0:44:26.480
uh which i think is probably the biggest

0:44:24.319,0:44:28.319
round that we have and it’s a single

0:44:26.480,0:44:31.520
question round

0:44:28.319,0:44:33.119
and i think this will tip our

0:44:31.520,0:44:36.079
contest one way or the other because i

0:44:33.119,0:44:37.359
think you know tell me if i’m wrong but

0:44:36.079,0:44:39.119
i think we’re pretty evenly matched

0:44:37.359,0:44:40.640
right now yeah definitely

0:44:39.119,0:44:42.400
um i mean you have a couple instances of

0:44:40.640,0:44:42.800
biden pulling ahead but then you also

0:44:42.400,0:44:45.599
have

0:44:42.800,0:44:46.960
trump uh doing better in the other end

0:44:45.599,0:44:47.680
as well so it is i’d say it is pretty

0:44:46.960,0:44:50.400
back and forth

0:44:47.680,0:44:51.440
i agree so we’ll take a quick break and

0:44:50.400,0:44:54.520
we’ll come back for

0:44:51.440,0:44:59.170
round five and then our analysis

0:44:54.520,0:44:59.170
[Music]

0:44:59.920,0:45:04.000
so round five is a symbol a single

0:45:03.280,0:45:07.920
question

0:45:04.000,0:45:11.119
very simple and this comes from

0:45:07.920,0:45:14.800
the yougov.com survey

0:45:11.119,0:45:18.160
asking who they think is the most honest

0:45:14.800,0:45:22.720
candidate and people who are polled

0:45:18.160,0:45:25.920
about that question for donald trump 57

0:45:22.720,0:45:30.319
say he’s not honest and 35

0:45:25.920,0:45:33.280
say he is honest uh joe biden 48

0:45:30.319,0:45:34.240
say he is honest 41 says he’s not honest

0:45:33.280,0:45:36.240
so joe biden

0:45:34.240,0:45:37.440
his numbers are a lot closer than

0:45:36.240,0:45:40.319
president trump’s work

0:45:37.440,0:45:40.319
yes and and

0:45:40.880,0:45:44.839
i think this is probably the most

0:45:42.319,0:45:47.760
telling thing out there

0:45:44.839,0:45:51.119
um most people and

0:45:47.760,0:45:52.720
and i don’t mean to seem cynical

0:45:51.119,0:45:54.640
but when it comes to politics i think

0:45:52.720,0:45:55.760
most people expect your politicians to

0:45:54.640,0:45:58.480
lie to you

0:45:55.760,0:46:00.560
and i think if you don’t you’re naive um

0:45:58.480,0:46:01.760
the fact that they think that the only

0:46:00.560,0:46:04.400
career politician

0:46:01.760,0:46:05.599
in this race is more honest than our

0:46:04.400,0:46:08.560
current president

0:46:05.599,0:46:09.359
speaks volumes yeah especially given a

0:46:08.560,0:46:11.280
big

0:46:09.359,0:46:13.200
reason for trump getting elected in 2016

0:46:11.280,0:46:15.440
was his uh

0:46:13.200,0:46:16.400
his stance against career politicians

0:46:15.440,0:46:18.319
and now

0:46:16.400,0:46:19.520
the career politician is in some ways

0:46:18.319,0:46:21.760
being more favored

0:46:19.520,0:46:23.280
in different categories yes and i think

0:46:21.760,0:46:25.520
donald trump’s

0:46:23.280,0:46:26.720
again a lot of this reflection is on the

0:46:25.520,0:46:28.640
last four years i think

0:46:26.720,0:46:31.440
donald trump puts himself out there with

0:46:28.640,0:46:35.040
these absolute statements

0:46:31.440,0:46:38.319
and that’s a product of his political

0:46:35.040,0:46:39.680
negativity where a career politician

0:46:38.319,0:46:42.160
knows how to say something

0:46:39.680,0:46:42.960
that leaves him enough wiggle room to

0:46:42.160,0:46:45.760
get out of

0:46:42.960,0:46:46.160
an absolute statement yep um donald

0:46:45.760,0:46:48.400
trump

0:46:46.160,0:46:49.599
gets in front of the microphone and says

0:46:48.400,0:46:52.319
things like

0:46:49.599,0:46:53.920
there’ll be a vaccine in two weeks well

0:46:52.319,0:46:55.839
when there’s not a vaccine in two weeks

0:46:53.920,0:46:58.160
what are you going to do

0:46:55.839,0:46:59.680
you’ve kind of painted yourself into a

0:46:58.160,0:47:00.720
corner there yeah we talked about that

0:46:59.680,0:47:02.720
with biden

0:47:00.720,0:47:04.240
having more the career politician take

0:47:02.720,0:47:05.680
where he talking about things like

0:47:04.240,0:47:06.640
fracking and his criminal justice

0:47:05.680,0:47:08.240
background

0:47:06.640,0:47:10.160
where he gives himself that wiggle room

0:47:08.240,0:47:11.920
he doesn’t have a concrete stance which

0:47:10.160,0:47:13.359
ken is a negative and a positive at the

0:47:11.920,0:47:13.839
same time it depends on how you look at

0:47:13.359,0:47:16.720
it

0:47:13.839,0:47:18.079
because he can’t there’s very few except

0:47:16.720,0:47:18.960
for a few unfortunate quotes that he

0:47:18.079,0:47:21.440
said before

0:47:18.960,0:47:22.640
of things you can pull up to say oh well

0:47:21.440,0:47:25.839
here’s evidence this guy

0:47:22.640,0:47:28.160
you know not being fit to lead yeah and

0:47:25.839,0:47:30.240
and trump has shot himself in the foot a

0:47:28.160,0:47:32.880
number of times here

0:47:30.240,0:47:34.559
because trump is a gambler you know

0:47:32.880,0:47:35.760
trump is the type of person who takes

0:47:34.559,0:47:38.400
chances

0:47:35.760,0:47:39.040
and he plays the numbers in such a way

0:47:38.400,0:47:40.559
that

0:47:39.040,0:47:42.319
when he says something that’s an

0:47:40.559,0:47:46.480
absolute statement and it’s

0:47:42.319,0:47:47.599
true then he gains a lot of collateral

0:47:46.480,0:47:51.520
that way

0:47:47.599,0:47:53.839
and when it’s not true what happens

0:47:51.520,0:47:55.440
usually we get some other statement or

0:47:53.839,0:47:56.480
something else that distracts us away

0:47:55.440,0:47:58.240
from that

0:47:56.480,0:47:59.680
or he tries to wiggle his way out of it

0:47:58.240,0:48:01.680
or something like that

0:47:59.680,0:48:04.559
then he turns into the politician and he

0:48:01.680,0:48:06.400
starts the the song and dance

0:48:04.559,0:48:08.400
and i think as a result of that he comes

0:48:06.400,0:48:10.880
across as dishonest

0:48:08.400,0:48:12.400
and there was a statistic that i saw and

0:48:10.880,0:48:16.160
i think it was on usa today

0:48:12.400,0:48:17.920
i don’t remember but midway through this

0:48:16.160,0:48:20.160
race couple months ago

0:48:17.920,0:48:21.760
there was a statistic that came out that

0:48:20.160,0:48:24.079
rated donald trump

0:48:21.760,0:48:26.000
as every fourth word out of his mouth

0:48:24.079,0:48:28.559
was a lie

0:48:26.000,0:48:29.839
and that’s based on the number of words

0:48:28.559,0:48:32.960
that he’s given in public

0:48:29.839,0:48:34.800
and the number of lies that he’s told

0:48:32.960,0:48:36.319
and that’s i’ve never seen that

0:48:34.800,0:48:39.760
statistic for

0:48:36.319,0:48:41.839
any politician the fact that he

0:48:39.760,0:48:43.119
has so many untruths out there that they

0:48:41.839,0:48:45.440
can calculate that

0:48:43.119,0:48:47.200
is alarming yeah and i this came up with

0:48:45.440,0:48:47.680
the debates too people wanted live fact

0:48:47.200,0:48:49.520
checkers

0:48:47.680,0:48:50.800
i think even joe biden said there should

0:48:49.520,0:48:52.960
be live fact checkers

0:48:50.800,0:48:53.839
but i do think it can be a little bit

0:48:52.960,0:48:56.480
one-sided

0:48:53.839,0:48:57.680
against trump with how much he lies

0:48:56.480,0:48:58.400
especially with things like fact

0:48:57.680,0:49:00.160
checking

0:48:58.400,0:49:01.520
i think in terms of the debates i think

0:49:00.160,0:49:03.760
it should have been

0:49:01.520,0:49:04.880
a little bit more even with and who’s

0:49:03.760,0:49:05.599
being fact-checked the most where i

0:49:04.880,0:49:07.359
think it’s

0:49:05.599,0:49:09.200
trump makes himself an easy target given

0:49:07.359,0:49:09.760
all of his lies and i think that there

0:49:09.200,0:49:11.680
has been

0:49:09.760,0:49:13.359
a lot of attention on that and maybe not

0:49:11.680,0:49:15.599
as much on joe biden

0:49:13.359,0:49:16.400
well and donald trump has also put

0:49:15.599,0:49:20.640
himself in

0:49:16.400,0:49:22.000
in compromising positions in the past

0:49:20.640,0:49:23.760
like the woodward interviews for

0:49:22.000,0:49:28.319
instance that were done

0:49:23.760,0:49:30.559
months ago very early into the pandemic

0:49:28.319,0:49:32.559
and donald trump came out acknowledging

0:49:30.559,0:49:35.440
the fact that he knew how dangerous the

0:49:32.559,0:49:39.440
virus was he knew it was airborne

0:49:35.440,0:49:40.720
and he willingly chose to downplay

0:49:39.440,0:49:42.880
the virus because he didn’t want to

0:49:40.720,0:49:45.839
panic americans

0:49:42.880,0:49:45.839
and

0:49:46.319,0:49:49.920
why you would say something that was so

0:49:48.800,0:49:53.760
compromising

0:49:49.920,0:49:58.000
on tape knowing that you’re on tape

0:49:53.760,0:49:59.839
boggles my mind yeah and and

0:49:58.000,0:50:02.800
i don’t understand what he thought he

0:49:59.839,0:50:04.880
was going to gain from that

0:50:02.800,0:50:06.240
the way i see it is he doesn’t care

0:50:04.880,0:50:08.079
because

0:50:06.240,0:50:09.839
that is already out of the news cycle

0:50:08.079,0:50:10.559
right i mean he admitted to this on tape

0:50:09.839,0:50:12.480
and it was

0:50:10.559,0:50:13.920
major headlines for a couple days but

0:50:12.480,0:50:15.040
it’s out of the cycle now and i think

0:50:13.920,0:50:16.480
that that has been

0:50:15.040,0:50:18.400
a reoccurring thing with his

0:50:16.480,0:50:20.240
administration and his presidency

0:50:18.400,0:50:21.599
he says something insane or does

0:50:20.240,0:50:22.880
something insane

0:50:21.599,0:50:25.040
that you would never think a president

0:50:22.880,0:50:27.599
to do and in the past would probably be

0:50:25.040,0:50:29.200
extremely damning but because there’s so

0:50:27.599,0:50:30.880
it happens so frequently

0:50:29.200,0:50:33.119
we become desensitized to it and it

0:50:30.880,0:50:33.839
becomes unfortunately a new normal

0:50:33.119,0:50:35.920
almost

0:50:33.839,0:50:36.960
and i think that he says things like

0:50:35.920,0:50:39.839
this because

0:50:36.960,0:50:41.520
he knows that it’s not going to stick

0:50:39.839,0:50:43.760
yeah and i think you’re right and and i

0:50:41.520,0:50:46.800
think when he does something

0:50:43.760,0:50:48.160
where he should he shoots himself in the

0:50:46.800,0:50:50.720
foot

0:50:48.160,0:50:52.319
and the news organizations pick up on it

0:50:50.720,0:50:54.559
and report on it

0:50:52.319,0:50:55.760
then we get the always fake news they’re

0:50:54.559,0:50:57.839
not treating me fairly

0:50:55.760,0:50:59.920
did you ask buying the same questions

0:50:57.839,0:51:02.319
and he goes on this defensive rant to

0:50:59.920,0:51:04.800
distract away from everything

0:51:02.319,0:51:06.960
um so he’s i have to give him full props

0:51:04.800,0:51:08.160
as a master manipulator he really has

0:51:06.960,0:51:11.440
his the

0:51:08.160,0:51:13.359
the perfected the methodologies of

0:51:11.440,0:51:14.960
of manipulating the media at this point

0:51:13.359,0:51:16.319
in time yeah i mean that was kind of his

0:51:14.960,0:51:17.520
reputation even before he became

0:51:16.319,0:51:20.000
president right i mean

0:51:17.520,0:51:21.599
with his depiction in different movies

0:51:20.000,0:51:23.359
you know back in the future too

0:51:21.599,0:51:24.720
the president and that being loosely

0:51:23.359,0:51:26.720
based or not the president but

0:51:24.720,0:51:28.400
uh older biff being loosely based on

0:51:26.720,0:51:30.400
donald trump right and things like that

0:51:28.400,0:51:33.440
i think he’s always had this reputation

0:51:30.400,0:51:35.760
it was only before it was more normal

0:51:33.440,0:51:36.960
because he was a a greedy businessman

0:51:35.760,0:51:37.680
but when you put somebody like that in

0:51:36.960,0:51:40.160
office

0:51:37.680,0:51:40.800
the standards are different yeah some

0:51:40.160,0:51:43.440
yeah

0:51:40.800,0:51:45.440
interesting so that was it for round

0:51:43.440,0:51:46.480
five i think we can say that squarely

0:51:45.440,0:51:49.599
went to

0:51:46.480,0:51:50.160
joe biden we’ll be right back with our

0:51:49.599,0:51:53.359
final

0:51:50.160,0:51:56.880
thoughts and uh our tally of

0:51:53.359,0:52:00.300
who we think won the match up

0:51:56.880,0:52:00.300
[Music]

0:52:01.040,0:52:08.000
so in tallying up my numbers here

0:52:04.400,0:52:11.599
i’m showing biden with

0:52:08.000,0:52:12.079
49 points and trump with 45 what do you

0:52:11.599,0:52:14.880
show

0:52:12.079,0:52:15.440
i had biden with 49 and trump with 41

0:52:14.880,0:52:17.119
points

0:52:15.440,0:52:19.280
okay well you were much harder on trump

0:52:17.119,0:52:21.920
than i was well i was harder on trump

0:52:19.280,0:52:22.400
uh in rounds three and four only because

0:52:21.920,0:52:24.000
he

0:52:22.400,0:52:25.920
scored so much those are the categories

0:52:24.000,0:52:27.680
where he got destroyed by joe biden in

0:52:25.920,0:52:29.920
terms of the percentage differences

0:52:27.680,0:52:30.720
so i thought that that warranted lower

0:52:29.920,0:52:33.040
scores for him

0:52:30.720,0:52:33.920
fair enough fair enough uh i think

0:52:33.040,0:52:36.240
either way

0:52:33.920,0:52:37.440
we both agree that uh based on these

0:52:36.240,0:52:40.720
polls

0:52:37.440,0:52:43.440
uh from americans uh out there from two

0:52:40.720,0:52:46.559
different polling organizations that

0:52:43.440,0:52:48.800
biden was the clear winner

0:52:46.559,0:52:50.400
uh what are your thoughts moving forward

0:52:48.800,0:52:53.760
let me let me ask you a couple of

0:52:50.400,0:52:55.359
of questions that i think a lot of

0:52:53.760,0:52:57.040
americans have on their mind right now

0:52:55.359,0:53:00.800
and get your reaction

0:52:57.040,0:53:01.839
one how do you think november 3rd is

0:53:00.800,0:53:02.960
going to play out do you think we’re

0:53:01.839,0:53:04.319
going to have a winner

0:53:02.960,0:53:05.599
or do you think it’s going to take some

0:53:04.319,0:53:07.200
time to count the votes i think it’s

0:53:05.599,0:53:07.920
going to take a couple days afterwards

0:53:07.200,0:53:09.760
um

0:53:07.920,0:53:11.760
just because of the influx of mailing

0:53:09.760,0:53:15.040
balance especially with the pandemic

0:53:11.760,0:53:16.319
i think i’m and

0:53:15.040,0:53:17.839
i don’t know if you watched it last week

0:53:16.319,0:53:18.720
tonight but he talked about this thing

0:53:17.839,0:53:20.559
john oliver

0:53:18.720,0:53:21.920
about this thing called the blue shift

0:53:20.559,0:53:24.079
where because so many

0:53:21.920,0:53:24.960
um biden supporters are mailing in their

0:53:24.079,0:53:26.480
balance

0:53:24.960,0:53:28.160
those votes might not be counted until a

0:53:26.480,0:53:30.160
couple days after election night

0:53:28.160,0:53:31.359
whereas if a lot of people that support

0:53:30.160,0:53:33.200
trump vote in person

0:53:31.359,0:53:34.880
that might show him pulling ahead which

0:53:33.200,0:53:37.280
he could then capitalize on

0:53:34.880,0:53:40.000
to declare victory and i think that

0:53:37.280,0:53:42.319
that’s a scary prospect

0:53:40.000,0:53:43.920
and i think the official tally will

0:53:42.319,0:53:47.920
probably be a couple days later

0:53:43.920,0:53:51.280
um due to the just the mailing votes so

0:53:47.920,0:53:53.280
let’s say a week two weeks into this

0:53:51.280,0:53:55.599
we have decisive numbers that come back

0:53:53.280,0:53:58.800
after everything’s counted up

0:53:55.599,0:53:59.280
and let’s say hypothetically donald

0:53:58.800,0:54:02.000
trump

0:53:59.280,0:54:03.040
loses the election in the electoral

0:54:02.000,0:54:05.599
college

0:54:03.040,0:54:07.280
do you think we’ll see a peaceful

0:54:05.599,0:54:09.040
transition of power or do you

0:54:07.280,0:54:10.319
how do you think you how do you see that

0:54:09.040,0:54:12.720
going down

0:54:10.319,0:54:14.880
i i don’t really know honestly i mean

0:54:12.720,0:54:18.319
obviously he says all these things like

0:54:14.880,0:54:20.000
i’m not a good loser i will you know

0:54:18.319,0:54:22.960
he’s spoken to the idea that he might

0:54:20.000,0:54:24.559
try to to resist the peaceful transition

0:54:22.960,0:54:27.119
but i don’t know how much of that is

0:54:24.559,0:54:29.280
true i i wonder if

0:54:27.119,0:54:32.240
he’s just saying that to frighten people

0:54:29.280,0:54:34.640
or to appear stronger to his supporters

0:54:32.240,0:54:35.280
um but honestly i have no idea i have no

0:54:34.640,0:54:36.640
idea

0:54:35.280,0:54:38.319
how things are going to go if he does

0:54:36.640,0:54:39.359
end up losing the electoral college if

0:54:38.319,0:54:43.119
he does

0:54:39.359,0:54:44.960
um i’m not i don’t know unfortunately

0:54:43.119,0:54:46.720
well let me ask you the same question if

0:54:44.960,0:54:47.520
biden loses what do you think is going

0:54:46.720,0:54:48.799
to happen

0:54:47.520,0:54:51.520
how do you think the country’s going to

0:54:48.799,0:54:53.200
react uh i think his supporters are

0:54:51.520,0:54:56.160
going to be disappointed i know i would

0:54:53.200,0:54:57.040
personally be disappointed by it um but

0:54:56.160,0:55:00.079
i do think that

0:54:57.040,0:55:03.200
trump would probably run with it and

0:55:00.079,0:55:04.880
maybe use it as as fuel to

0:55:03.200,0:55:06.400
extend you know his power even more

0:55:04.880,0:55:08.559
because he won again

0:55:06.400,0:55:10.799
right and and that for him would be a

0:55:08.559,0:55:13.040
confirmation that he’s doing things

0:55:10.799,0:55:14.000
right the right way so it probably will

0:55:13.040,0:55:16.160
just lead to more of

0:55:14.000,0:55:17.359
what we have now now can i ask you have

0:55:16.160,0:55:18.880
you voted yeah

0:55:17.359,0:55:20.400
and you did mail-in voting i didn’t

0:55:18.880,0:55:22.160
improve

0:55:20.400,0:55:24.400
back in whenever i got it which is like

0:55:22.160,0:55:25.680
october now let me ask you a question

0:55:24.400,0:55:28.319
and this is a question that i

0:55:25.680,0:55:30.240
i i ask a lot of people when it comes to

0:55:28.319,0:55:31.680
politics

0:55:30.240,0:55:33.599
putting all the other issues aside

0:55:31.680,0:55:35.359
everything we talked about here

0:55:33.599,0:55:36.960
the one thing i ask people when they

0:55:35.359,0:55:40.000
look to vote

0:55:36.960,0:55:42.480
is are you better off today than you

0:55:40.000,0:55:45.760
were four years ago

0:55:42.480,0:55:47.200
i’d me personally i would say no but i

0:55:45.760,0:55:49.359
i realize that i am in a privileged

0:55:47.200,0:55:51.599
position and there are a lot of people

0:55:49.359,0:55:52.799
less fortunate than me that are in much

0:55:51.599,0:55:54.559
worse positions

0:55:52.799,0:55:56.160
and i do take that in consideration when

0:55:54.559,0:55:59.040
i vote i’d say the

0:55:56.160,0:56:00.559
biggest thing that the trump presidency

0:55:59.040,0:56:01.520
has affected me is the coronavirus

0:56:00.559,0:56:05.200
pandemic

0:56:01.520,0:56:05.839
and it limiting my options in my life in

0:56:05.200,0:56:08.799
terms of

0:56:05.839,0:56:10.960
social options and things for school um

0:56:08.799,0:56:13.359
you know having to do school remotely

0:56:10.960,0:56:15.200
um but like i said other people have

0:56:13.359,0:56:17.839
been affected in much worse ways

0:56:15.200,0:56:18.480
um from the presidency should we see a

0:56:17.839,0:56:20.480
change

0:56:18.480,0:56:21.920
in administration here and joe biden

0:56:20.480,0:56:24.880
come into power do you

0:56:21.920,0:56:26.319
think the coronavirus will be dealt with

0:56:24.880,0:56:31.200
better do you think

0:56:26.319,0:56:31.200
we’ll see a more involved government and

0:56:31.280,0:56:34.960
addressing of it i do i i at least i

0:56:33.680,0:56:37.119
hope i hope so

0:56:34.960,0:56:40.000
um i hope that funds will be better

0:56:37.119,0:56:43.119
allocated i think that if

0:56:40.000,0:56:44.880
if the leader of the country admits that

0:56:43.119,0:56:46.880
there is a problem and is working

0:56:44.880,0:56:48.640
towards it i think that that will help

0:56:46.880,0:56:50.000
at least some people in the country take

0:56:48.640,0:56:52.559
it more seriously as well

0:56:50.000,0:56:53.760
because i know at least my life people a

0:56:52.559,0:56:54.880
lot of people are not taking it as

0:56:53.760,0:56:57.040
seriously as they should

0:56:54.880,0:56:58.160
and i wonder how much of that comes from

0:56:57.040,0:56:59.520
the kind of rhetoric they’re hearing

0:56:58.160,0:57:02.799
about it from their leaders

0:56:59.520,0:57:04.319
right and and economically speaking

0:57:02.799,0:57:07.520
who do you think the country would be

0:57:04.319,0:57:10.559
better off with trump or biden

0:57:07.520,0:57:13.839
i am not super well versed in

0:57:10.559,0:57:15.200
economics i know that a lot of people

0:57:13.839,0:57:18.799
are citing

0:57:15.200,0:57:21.440
tax uh trump’s tax taxing of

0:57:18.799,0:57:22.960
or no biden’s taxing of the wealthy

0:57:21.440,0:57:23.839
which i am in support of i think that

0:57:22.960,0:57:25.200
that’s a good thing

0:57:23.839,0:57:27.359
i think people that are wealthy should

0:57:25.200,0:57:29.920
contribute more um

0:57:27.359,0:57:30.640
i’m not but like i said i’m not familiar

0:57:29.920,0:57:32.000
um as

0:57:30.640,0:57:35.359
as much as i should be with the

0:57:32.000,0:57:38.079
economics is there any outstanding

0:57:35.359,0:57:39.680
uh issue that you think sticks out more

0:57:38.079,0:57:40.799
than anything else that we’ve discussed

0:57:39.680,0:57:43.680
that would decide

0:57:40.799,0:57:44.000
who do you think should be president i

0:57:43.680,0:57:46.079
know

0:57:44.000,0:57:47.599
that before i said that it’s not all

0:57:46.079,0:57:48.559
about personality when you’re picking a

0:57:47.599,0:57:52.000
candidate

0:57:48.559,0:57:53.440
but for me i just don’t see voting for

0:57:52.000,0:57:55.599
trump as the moral

0:57:53.440,0:57:57.040
right thing to do and that’s honestly

0:57:55.599,0:57:59.359
that’s the biggest thing for me

0:57:57.040,0:58:00.400
i don’t support biden on a lot of issues

0:57:59.359,0:58:01.280
i don’t agree with him on a lot of

0:58:00.400,0:58:04.319
issues

0:58:01.280,0:58:05.040
but i just don’t think trump is a good

0:58:04.319,0:58:07.680
man

0:58:05.040,0:58:09.119
and maybe biden isn’t either but i think

0:58:07.680,0:58:09.839
there’s something about trump that for

0:58:09.119,0:58:12.640
me

0:58:09.839,0:58:14.480
he’s just not not the right person to be

0:58:12.640,0:58:17.599
in office or to be in power

0:58:14.480,0:58:18.720
fair enough uh that was all i had did

0:58:17.599,0:58:19.839
you have anything else you want to get

0:58:18.720,0:58:23.200
into nope

0:58:19.839,0:58:27.359
all right i think that’s it for today

0:58:23.200,0:58:29.680
i think uh our next podcast will be

0:58:27.359,0:58:31.760
very interesting depending on how this

0:58:29.680,0:58:35.359
election goes i assume

0:58:31.760,0:58:37.760
uh by the time we go on the air again

0:58:35.359,0:58:38.880
that decision will have been made by the

0:58:37.760,0:58:41.119
country

0:58:38.880,0:58:41.920
and we’ll see what direction we go and

0:58:41.119,0:58:44.160
uh

0:58:41.920,0:58:47.119
it might even decide what we talk about

0:58:44.160,0:58:49.440
on the next podcast

0:58:47.119,0:58:50.880
that was all we had uh thank you for

0:58:49.440,0:58:53.680
watching today

0:58:50.880,0:58:55.119
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