Insights Into Tomorrow: Episode 10 “Decision 2020 Trump vs. Biden”

In this episode we put Trump again Biden in a statistical matchup of the ages. From the tail of the tape analysis all the way through 5 rounds of head to head competition we look at the two candidates in detail. Using survey data from two well respected surveys we’ll compare each candidates stand on Key Issues versus how survey respondents polled.

Round 2 will look at reasons respondents gave for voting for either candidate. We’ll look at personality traits of each candidate in Round 3. Round 4 is a measure of voter confidence in key issues as it relates to each candidate. And the fifth and final round looks at which candidate is more trustworthy.

All throughout the match up we’ll provide color commentary and analysis of the candidates and the issues measured. In the end we’ll tally up each candidates results in a 10 point must system and give you our thoughts.

Show Notes

[INTRO THEME]
[INTRODUCTIONS] (3-5 minutes)
Show introduction:
Insights Into Tomorrow
Insights Into Tomorrow: Episode 10 “Decision 2020 Trump vs. Biden”
Host introductions
Host (Joseph Whalen)
My co-host (Sam Whalen)

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[SEGMENT 1: Topic Introduction/Episode Premise] (5-10 minutes)
The Tale of the Tape
Donald J. Trump
Political Affiliation: Republican
Previously: Reform, Democrat, Independent
Age: 74
From: Queens, New York
Spouse: Melania, married 2005
Previously: Ivana (1977-1992 div), Marla (1993-1999 div)
Children: Donald Jr, Ivanka, Eric, Tiffany, Barron
Alma Mater: Wharton School (BS in Economics)
Military Service:
4 student draft deferments while in college
1966 deemed fit for service
1968 (July) classified as eligible to serve
1968 (October) medically deferred as 1-Y (Unqualified for duty except in case of national emergency)
1972 reclassified 4-f due to bone spurs and permanently disqualified from service

Joseph R. Biden Jr.
Political Affiliation: Democrat
Age: 77
From: Scranton, PA
Spouse: Jill, married 1977
Previously: Neilia (1966-1972 dec)
Children: Hunter, Beau (dec), Ashley, Naomi (dec)
Alma Mater: Syracuse University (Law)
Military Service:
5 student draft deferments while in college
1968 medically deferred as 1-Y due to asthma (Unqualified for duty except in case of national emergency)

[AD1: SSE]

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/09/29/biden-trump-debate-primer
https://bit.ly/34JULwW
Round 1: Key Issues 10-9
Nominating the next Supreme Court Justice
Trump: Confirm nomination now
Biden: Wait until after the election
America: 53% would rather wait until after the election for confirmation

Handling the COVID-19 Pandemic
Trump: Declared victory and wants to move on
Biden: Wants to implement mandatory masks, social distancing and other recommendations from medical professionals
America:
45% confident in Biden
37% confident in Trump

Fixing the Economy
Trump: Thinks the economy is doing great and it’s the best there ever was
Biden: Acknowledges impact of COVID on out of work families
America:
37% think it will get better under Trump
32% think it will get better under Biden

Race and Violence in our Cities
Trump: Doesn’t think there’s systemic racism in the country, condemns violence
Biden: Acknowledges racism in the country, condemns violent protests
America:
39% think they are mostly violent riots
32% think they are peaceful protests

Integrity of the election
Trump: Attacking mail in voting as ripe with fraud
Biden: Encouraging people to vote any way they can
America:
16% have a great deal of confidence in the election
8% have no confidence at all in the election

[AD2: Teens] (1 minute)

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/08/13/perceptions-of-trump-and-biden/
https://pewrsr.ch/3kM0g40
Round 2: Top Reasons for Voting for each candidate 9-10

Donald Trump
Leadership/Performance
Trump – 23%
Biden – 19%
His issue/policy positions
Trump – 21%
Biden – 9%
He’s not (The other guy)
Biden – 56%
Trump – 19%
He is for American people and values
Trump – 17%
Biden – 6%
Republicans vs. Democrats
Trump – 16%
Biden – 7%
Personality/Temperament
Biden – 13%
Trump – 11%
Other
Biden – 13%
Trump – 12%
Don’t know/Refused to answer
Biden – 14%
Trump – 13%

Round 3: Personality Traits 10-9

Energetic
Trump – 56%
Biden – 40%

Courageous
Trump – 46%
Biden – 45%

Cares for needs of ordinary people
Biden – 54%
Trump – 41%

A good role model
Biden – 46%
Trump – 31%

Even-Tempered
Biden – 60%
Trump – 25%

[AD3: Entertainment] (1 minute)

Round 4: Voter Confidence on key Issues 10-8

Economic Policy
Trump – 51%
Biden – 48%

Law enforcement and criminal justice issues
Biden – 46%
Trump – 41%

Foreign Policy Issues
Biden – 50%
Trump 44%

Handling Coronavirus health impact
Biden – 52%
Trump – 41%

Race relations
Biden – 48%
Trump – 35%

Bring the country closer together
Biden – 45%
Trump – 31%

[TRANSITION]

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/09/29/biden-trump-debate-primer
Round 5: Honesty 10-9

Donald Trump
57% say he’s not honest
35% say he is

Joe Biden
48% say he’s honest
41% say he’s not honest

[TRANSITION]
[CLOSE]
Final thoughts/summary COHOST
Joe: 49-45

[OUTRO AND CREDITS]

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welcome to insights into tomorrow this

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is episode

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10 decision 2020 trump versus biden i’m

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your host joseph whalen

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and my co-host sam whalen hello how you

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doing today sam

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doing all right the weather’s kind of

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lame but uh you know yeah it is pretty

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rainy but

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true and i don’t mind the cold i like

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the cold

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so we’ve danced around uh politics on

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this show

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for a little while now we’ve touched on

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it a little bit as impartially as

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possible

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last week we deliver last episode we

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deliberately avoided talking politics

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and opted for a bit of a softball topic

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but i don’t think we can avoid it this

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week no we are shooting this on sunday

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the sunday before

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the election on the third on tuesday so

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indeed

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um given the number of early votes that

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have been cast

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i don’t think anything that we say here

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is going to change anyone’s mind

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any more than any of the candidates

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campaigning out there are going to

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change anyone’s mind

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however i do think it’s a worthwhile

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discussion for us to have comparing the

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candidates

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um and i think we’re going to kind of go

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about this in a

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kind of a different way we’re going to

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do it scored sort of like a boxing match

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we’ll do a tale of the tape between the

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two candidates and look at some of their

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key vital information and then we’re

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going to do

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five rounds that are based on a couple

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of uh surveys that have been done

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over the past couple of weeks and we’ll

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score

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on a 10 point must each round what each

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candidate uh

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how they perform in these polls

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and then we’ll give our opinions at the

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end of

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who won why they won and so forth

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tale

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of the tape

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so we have two candidates that will be

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vying

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for the candidacy for president of the

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united states for the next four years

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the first is the incumbent

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the defending champion uh donald j

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trump uh we’re gonna look at their

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political affiliation their

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age where they’re from a little bit

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about their

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uh history their family history

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uh some education and some military uh

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status uh history that they have i’ll go

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down donald trump and

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how about you go down uh joe biden’s

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record all right

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so donald j trump’s political

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affiliation currently

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is republican he was previously

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a reform minded individual

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he was a democrat registered democrat

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and a registered independent

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he is now republican has been republican

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since

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at least 2016 when he bought i mean when

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he won the

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uh nomination from the republican party

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he is 74 years old he is as he has

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mentioned several times in his

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rallies in florida a senior citizen

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he is from queens new york originally

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he has been married multiple times

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his first marriage was to

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ivana from 77 to 92 which ended in

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divorce

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then he was married to maria

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from 93 to 99 and currently married to

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melania since 2005.

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he has four children five children

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he has don jr ivanka eric tiffany and

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baron tiffany we don’t hear too much

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about these days

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don jr and eric are very active

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as well as ivanka in his campaign and uh

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baron is

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uh under 18 at this point so he kind of

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stays below the radar

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uh his alma mater is wharton school of

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business which he transferred to

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from um i forget where he originally

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went

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it was in bronx new york i know that was

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where the school was but

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he’s a product of the wharton school of

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business he has a bs in economics

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military service uh this has been

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something that was kind of

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uh controversial for him in the past uh

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he had

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four student draft deferments while in

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college during the vietnam war

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uh in 66 he was deemed fit for service

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60 july of 68. he was classified as

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eligible to serve in october of 68 he

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was medically deferred as a

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one why unqualified for duty except in

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case of national emergency which i guess

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vietnam didn’t constitute a case of

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national emergency

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and then in 72 he was reclassified the

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4f

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due to bone spurs and permanently

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disqualified

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from the service and that is the tale of

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the tape

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for donald donald j trump

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tell us about joe biden okay so joseph r

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biden jr

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uh his political affiliation is a

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democrat like he’s been democrat his

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entire

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career his political career he is 77

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years old

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so three years older than donald trump

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uh he’s from scranton pa which i didn’t

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actually know that

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local ish kind of you know his spouse

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is jill biden they were married in 1977.

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he was previously married to new knight

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uh nelia sorry about that uh they were

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married from 1966 to 1972

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and unfortunately she passed away uh he

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has two children

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uh three children sorry four children

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and the count keeper no i know they’re

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hiding in there uh hunter

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beau who unfortunately passed away

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ashley and naomi who also unfortunately

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passed away

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his alma mater is syracuse university he

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got a degree in law there

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uh his military service he had five

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student draft deferments while in

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college

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and in 1968 he was medically deferred as

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a 1-y

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due to asthma and he much like donald

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trump

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unqualified for duty except in case of

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national emergency

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and that is joseph r biden so they are

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candidates that will be

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vying for president and uh

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we’ll be right back for round one

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between uh

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donald trump and joe biden we’re going

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to be talking about the key issues

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this information comes from a survey

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and we have a couple of different issues

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survey of americans actually falls

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about is nominating the next supreme

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court justice

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obviously this has been done already

0:10:05.920,0:10:09.920
she’s been confirmed

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trump uh his stance was to confirm the

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nomination

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immediately biden and the democrats

0:10:14.240,0:10:18.959
wanted to wait until after the election

0:10:16.959,0:10:21.440
when america was pulled on this

0:10:18.959,0:10:22.240
53 percent of americans said they would

0:10:21.440,0:10:24.160
rather wait

0:10:22.240,0:10:25.680
until after the election for the

0:10:24.160,0:10:28.560
confirmation so the majority of

0:10:25.680,0:10:30.800
americans sided with biden on that one

0:10:28.560,0:10:32.800
what’s our next category uh so our next

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category is handling the covet 19

0:10:32.800,0:10:36.240
pandemic

0:10:33.920,0:10:36.959
uh president trump said he declared

0:10:36.240,0:10:38.959
victory

0:10:36.959,0:10:40.079
and wants to move on he had the virus

0:10:38.959,0:10:42.959
himself and

0:10:40.079,0:10:45.360
proclaims to have been cured of it biden

0:10:42.959,0:10:46.640
wants to implement mandatory masks

0:10:45.360,0:10:47.920
social distancing and other

0:10:46.640,0:10:49.360
recommendations from medical

0:10:47.920,0:10:52.320
professionals

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america 45 percent of america was

0:10:52.320,0:10:56.000
confident in biden

0:10:53.920,0:10:58.000
while 37 percent were confident in trump

0:10:56.000,0:11:01.200
so it looks like most people

0:10:58.000,0:11:02.399
side with biden on that issue yes they

0:11:01.200,0:11:05.120
do

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the next is the economy and fixing the

0:11:05.120,0:11:09.040
economy

0:11:06.320,0:11:11.440
trump thinks the economy is doing great

0:11:09.040,0:11:14.240
and it’s the best there ever was

0:11:11.440,0:11:15.279
biden acknowledges the impact of covid

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on our workers

0:11:15.279,0:11:19.440
and our families america thinks 37

0:11:18.880,0:11:22.480
percent

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think things will get better under trump

0:11:22.480,0:11:27.279
and 32 percent think things will get

0:11:24.880,0:11:28.000
better under biden so america is siding

0:11:27.279,0:11:31.040
with donald

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trump on this one uh the next category

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race and violence in our cities

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uh trump doesn’t think there’s

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systematic racism in the country

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and condemns any violence uh biden

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acknowledges racism in the country and

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condemns the violent protests

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and supports the more peaceful ones

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americans 39 percent

0:11:48.560,0:11:53.040
think they are mostly violent riots well

0:11:51.360,0:11:54.480
32 percent think they are peaceful

0:11:53.040,0:11:57.519
protest

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so it looks like most people are

0:11:57.519,0:12:00.959
swinging towards thinking their violent

0:11:58.959,0:12:04.000
rides um and

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are against that correct

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the next we look at and the last uh item

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we look at in this round

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is integrity of the election which has

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been quite controversial over the past

0:12:12.800,0:12:17.519
few months

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trump is attacking mail-in voting as

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right with fraud biden encourages people

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to vote

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any way they can especially considering

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the conditions we’re in

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under a pandemic america was

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asked if they have confidence in the

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election

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16 percent have a great deal of

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confidence in the election and the

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electoral process eight percent have no

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confidence

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at all in the election now it’s

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interesting to point out that there were

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a number of other

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uh levels of confidence that were in

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this survey i took the top and the

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bottom here

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so the vast majority of people did fall

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in the middle

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i was kind of looking for those extremes

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here to see where people

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had that high degree or complete lack of

0:12:58.560,0:13:02.959
confidence

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so it looks like by a margin of 2 to 1

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people are siding with biden

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saying that this is they are confident

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in the election and process itself

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now that does bring an end to round one

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here

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and it was pretty well divided i think

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uh what are your opinions on round one

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yeah i mean it looks like most things

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were pretty split the way you’d think

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they would go

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um one thing that did surprise me was

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the eight percent having

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no confidence at all in the election i’m

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not sure what i thought the number would

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be

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uh but eight percent honestly i thought

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it’d be a little bit higher

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given the the issues we had in the 2016

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election

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and in elections in the past and the

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all the rhetoric surrounding voting in

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general i thought that the number would

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be higher honestly

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yeah and i agree with you i’m surprised

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it was below 10 percent there i kind of

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figured it would edge a little bit

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higher

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but it is good to know that the vast

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majority of people do think that they

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they have confidence in the election so

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we are scoring these rounds

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on a 10-point scale 10-point must

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and uh we will tally up our totals at

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the end

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of the matches do we want to do uh each

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our scores each for each round or just

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count it all at the end well i would i

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would pencil in your your score now and

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then we’ll do the math at the end there

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and we’ll just give the totals

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so that’s it for round one we’ll be back

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in a minute with uh

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[Music]

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so round two uh we’re actually drawing

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our information from a

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survey done by pew research and all of

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the links to the surveys will be

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available on our website and our show

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notes

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after the podcast so round two we’re

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looking at the top reasons

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for voting for each candidate and

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we’re looking at donald

0:15:57.680,0:16:01.440
trump uh well we’re looking at both

0:16:00.240,0:16:02.480
candidates i’m sorry we’re looking at

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both candidates

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and we’re looking at several different

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categories so the first category we look

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at

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was leadership and performance so we uh

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americans were asked

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to rate each candidate on each of these

0:16:13.680,0:16:17.920
categories

0:16:15.279,0:16:18.560
and for leadership and performance 23

0:16:17.920,0:16:21.440
percent

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caster votes for donald trump while only

0:16:21.440,0:16:25.680
19

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percent cast their votes for joe biden

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so the next category is his issue or

0:16:27.759,0:16:32.079
policy positions

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uh in this instance 21 percent of people

0:16:32.079,0:16:35.519
voted for president trump here and only

0:16:34.240,0:16:37.199
9

0:16:35.519,0:16:39.600
voting for biden so by definitely

0:16:37.199,0:16:43.279
scoring low in that category

0:16:39.600,0:16:46.560
the next category is he’s not

0:16:43.279,0:16:49.440
the other guy which seems whimsical

0:16:46.560,0:16:50.000
but given the divisive nature of

0:16:49.440,0:16:51.519
politics

0:16:50.000,0:16:54.720
in our country today i think it’s pretty

0:16:51.519,0:16:56.399
significant 56 percent of people said

0:16:54.720,0:16:56.720
they would vote for biden because he’s

0:16:56.399,0:17:00.320
not

0:16:56.720,0:17:03.440
trump and only 19 said they would vote

0:17:00.320,0:17:07.199
for by trump over biden

0:17:03.440,0:17:08.160
now again this is not a category that

0:17:07.199,0:17:10.319
has any kind of

0:17:08.160,0:17:11.760
concrete provable evidence it’s

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literally just

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opinion opinion of cannabis

0:17:14.799,0:17:18.480
uh so the next category he is for the

0:17:16.720,0:17:20.319
american people and values

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uh the candidates representation of

0:17:20.319,0:17:24.799
american people and values

0:17:21.919,0:17:25.600
uh trump uh scored 17 percent in that

0:17:24.799,0:17:27.600
category

0:17:25.600,0:17:29.280
and biden only scored six percent so

0:17:27.600,0:17:32.559
again biden falling

0:17:29.280,0:17:35.520
in the low percentages the

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next category we have is people who vote

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along

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party lines so republicans vote

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republican

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democrats vote down the democrat column

0:17:42.799,0:17:46.160
16 percent said they would vote for

0:17:45.280,0:17:48.960
trump

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seven percent vote for biden and i think

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that is more

0:17:49.919,0:17:55.520
a statement of party loyalty

0:17:53.200,0:17:57.840
more than anything and i also think

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that’s kind of reflective of what we saw

0:17:57.840,0:18:00.000
coming out of the primaries where we had

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20

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some people as candidates

0:18:03.679,0:18:09.280
that emerged on the democrat side

0:18:06.720,0:18:11.840
where the republicans obviously maintain

0:18:09.280,0:18:13.840
a fairly

0:18:11.840,0:18:15.760
single-minded race the whole time and i

0:18:13.840,0:18:16.240
think that statistic is reflective of

0:18:15.760,0:18:18.559
that

0:18:16.240,0:18:19.520
yeah so the next category is their

0:18:18.559,0:18:22.400
personality

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personality excuse me and temperament

0:18:22.400,0:18:25.440
biden

0:18:23.120,0:18:26.960
scoring 13 percent here and president

0:18:25.440,0:18:28.880
trump scoring 11

0:18:26.960,0:18:30.960
so biden pulling ahead with two extra

0:18:28.880,0:18:31.520
percent and it’s interesting given the

0:18:30.960,0:18:33.600
nature

0:18:31.520,0:18:36.160
of the first debate which this this

0:18:33.600,0:18:38.880
survey occurred after the first debate

0:18:36.160,0:18:39.600
i’m surprised that that margin isn’t

0:18:38.880,0:18:41.120
greater

0:18:39.600,0:18:43.200
in biden’s favor because of the amount

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of criticism that that was

0:18:43.200,0:18:47.760
lambasted against trump for his

0:18:46.320,0:18:50.960
seemingly

0:18:47.760,0:18:51.840
overbearing bullying tendencies during

0:18:50.960,0:18:56.000
the

0:18:51.840,0:18:58.559
debate um the next category is simply

0:18:56.000,0:18:59.919
other it was not they had a prescription

0:18:58.559,0:19:02.320
of what

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questions they asked people and people

0:19:02.320,0:19:06.160
who answered for

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voting reasons outside of those wound up

0:19:06.160,0:19:10.640
in the other

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and this is a statistical tie here biden

0:19:10.640,0:19:14.640
at 13

0:19:12.400,0:19:17.280
trump at 12 i think the margin of error

0:19:14.640,0:19:19.039
on this poll was four or five percent so

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statistically insignificant to the

0:19:19.039,0:19:22.559
overall poll

0:19:20.480,0:19:23.520
and the final category is people that

0:19:22.559,0:19:25.679
did not know or

0:19:23.520,0:19:27.280
refuse to answer and again these are

0:19:25.679,0:19:29.760
pretty close biden with 14

0:19:27.280,0:19:32.240
and trump with 13 yeah so i think the

0:19:29.760,0:19:34.480
last two here we kind of can throw out

0:19:32.240,0:19:36.799
from a statistical standpoint

0:19:34.480,0:19:38.240
uh looking at the rest of these i think

0:19:36.799,0:19:40.960
it’s pretty clear that uh

0:19:38.240,0:19:42.480
donald trump uh won round two on this

0:19:40.960,0:19:46.160
one here

0:19:42.480,0:19:49.120
let’s move right into round three here

0:19:46.160,0:19:50.160
since that was a quick decisive round

0:19:49.120,0:19:53.280
round three

0:19:50.160,0:19:54.480
using the same poll looks at personality

0:19:53.280,0:19:57.919
traits

0:19:54.480,0:19:59.039
so we look at energetic being our first

0:19:57.919,0:20:01.440
one

0:19:59.039,0:20:02.320
56 percent of americans think that

0:20:01.440,0:20:05.280
donald trump

0:20:02.320,0:20:06.400
is more energetic than 40 percent who

0:20:05.280,0:20:09.120
think biden

0:20:06.400,0:20:10.159
is more energetic uh the next is

0:20:09.120,0:20:11.600
courageous or

0:20:10.159,0:20:13.200
you know how courage how much courage

0:20:11.600,0:20:16.880
they have uh trump

0:20:13.200,0:20:19.360
with 46 and biden close with 45

0:20:16.880,0:20:20.240
so just one percent difference there and

0:20:19.360,0:20:21.679
then we asked

0:20:20.240,0:20:24.080
americans well we didn’t but pew

0:20:21.679,0:20:26.559
research asked americans

0:20:24.080,0:20:27.679
who cares for the needs of ordinary

0:20:26.559,0:20:29.679
people

0:20:27.679,0:20:31.919
and this is where we see a bit of a

0:20:29.679,0:20:35.280
breakout here where biden

0:20:31.919,0:20:36.480
scores 54 of the confidence level from

0:20:35.280,0:20:40.000
voters

0:20:36.480,0:20:43.039
trump only 41 so

0:20:40.000,0:20:45.280
that that’s kind of a opinion statement

0:20:43.039,0:20:46.640
there as to who cares more

0:20:45.280,0:20:48.400
yeah and sort of in the same vein is

0:20:46.640,0:20:50.640
that the next category

0:20:48.400,0:20:52.320
a good role model and again biden

0:20:50.640,0:20:55.440
pulling ahead here 46

0:20:52.320,0:20:56.080
from biden with trump only getting 31 so

0:20:55.440,0:20:57.440
again

0:20:56.080,0:20:59.200
similar to cares for needs of an

0:20:57.440,0:21:00.720
ordinary people you’re seeing in the

0:20:59.200,0:21:02.960
personality realm biden

0:21:00.720,0:21:04.880
is pulling ahead a little bit right and

0:21:02.960,0:21:05.919
the last one that we have in round three

0:21:04.880,0:21:08.799
here

0:21:05.919,0:21:09.360
um i think this is a this is a knockout

0:21:08.799,0:21:12.320
blow

0:21:09.360,0:21:14.720
here and the last two were uh they asked

0:21:12.320,0:21:17.679
who do you think is more even tempered

0:21:14.720,0:21:19.440
sixty 60 of americans think that biden

0:21:17.679,0:21:22.799
is more even-tempered

0:21:19.440,0:21:26.080
than 25 of

0:21:22.799,0:21:28.159
uh trump supporters uh so i think

0:21:26.080,0:21:29.200
round three i i would definitely have to

0:21:28.159,0:21:32.000
give to

0:21:29.200,0:21:33.840
biden in this case here not only did he

0:21:32.000,0:21:35.440
win more of the categories but he won

0:21:33.840,0:21:38.559
them with a significantly

0:21:35.440,0:21:39.039
higher percentage uh difference than the

0:21:38.559,0:21:42.000
others

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yep definitely but overall i’m i was

0:21:42.000,0:21:45.280
actually kind of surprised at this point

0:21:43.520,0:21:45.679
in time when i prepared the notes as to

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how

0:21:45.679,0:21:49.200
even the two candidates really were at

0:21:48.240,0:21:52.720
this point in time

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if we’re scoring on a 10-point must yeah

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we’re going to take another quick break

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here and we’ll be back

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in just a minute for round four where

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we’re going to look at what voter

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we’re back with decision 2020

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wrong camera angle i was like hello

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decision 2020 trump versus biden we’re

0:23:25.840,0:23:29.760
about halfway through now we’re

0:23:27.840,0:23:31.600
scoring this on a 10-point must we did

0:23:29.760,0:23:33.840
our tail of the tape

0:23:31.600,0:23:34.880
halfway through now we’ve got two rounds

0:23:33.840,0:23:36.480
left to go

0:23:34.880,0:23:38.799
where do you think we stand on the

0:23:36.480,0:23:40.799
candidates well just doing a quick

0:23:38.799,0:23:42.400
uh i’m not going to reveal my score and

0:23:40.799,0:23:45.200
you know we got to tease it for the end

0:23:42.400,0:23:45.760
but just uh doing a quick totaling of my

0:23:45.200,0:23:47.919
scores

0:23:45.760,0:23:49.279
both candidates are pretty close um i

0:23:47.919,0:23:51.520
think in the most recent round in round

0:23:49.279,0:23:53.600
three we definitely saw biden pull ahead

0:23:51.520,0:23:55.440
just in terms of his personality

0:23:53.600,0:23:56.880
and i think that’s interesting because

0:23:55.440,0:23:58.400
if you look at

0:23:56.880,0:24:00.400
it being president is more than just

0:23:58.400,0:24:01.279
your personality it’s about policy

0:24:00.400,0:24:03.279
issues which

0:24:01.279,0:24:04.720
if we look at those rounds candidates

0:24:03.279,0:24:06.880
were much closer or

0:24:04.720,0:24:07.840
it’d lead to one towards you know

0:24:06.880,0:24:09.679
president trump

0:24:07.840,0:24:10.880
so it’s interesting to see how these

0:24:09.679,0:24:13.600
votes are coming down

0:24:10.880,0:24:14.960
and what people might value in a in a

0:24:13.600,0:24:15.760
presidential candidate or a president

0:24:14.960,0:24:17.679
themselves

0:24:15.760,0:24:18.960
yeah and i think part of that is the

0:24:17.679,0:24:21.279
fact that

0:24:18.960,0:24:23.120
you know donald trump has been president

0:24:21.279,0:24:24.640
for four years so we have a performance

0:24:23.120,0:24:26.799
that we can look at for comparison

0:24:24.640,0:24:28.640
purposes

0:24:26.799,0:24:30.640
biden has been out of office for four

0:24:28.640,0:24:32.480
years and when he was in office

0:24:30.640,0:24:34.320
he wasn’t president he was a vice

0:24:32.480,0:24:34.960
president he was a senator and so forth

0:24:34.320,0:24:36.880
so

0:24:34.960,0:24:39.120
i think when people look at policy

0:24:36.880,0:24:41.039
decisions they look at that

0:24:39.120,0:24:42.559
kind of differently given the roles that

0:24:41.039,0:24:44.240
biden’s been in the past and i don’t

0:24:42.559,0:24:46.960
think he gets

0:24:44.240,0:24:48.880
nearly as much attention or credit for

0:24:46.960,0:24:50.880
those policy decisions

0:24:48.880,0:24:52.640
um but especially from an economic

0:24:50.880,0:24:55.360
standpoint donald trump has

0:24:52.640,0:24:56.960
very much cast himself as well he’s

0:24:55.360,0:24:57.919
casting himself as the law and order

0:24:56.960,0:25:00.480
president

0:24:57.919,0:25:01.520
but he also hinges a lot of what his

0:25:00.480,0:25:04.320
performance is

0:25:01.520,0:25:06.240
on the economy how do you think that’s

0:25:04.320,0:25:08.080
affecting the survey results

0:25:06.240,0:25:09.760
well i think i mean at the end of the

0:25:08.080,0:25:10.799
day people care probably the most about

0:25:09.760,0:25:12.320
money right so

0:25:10.799,0:25:14.559
and if if trump’s able to frame it in

0:25:12.320,0:25:17.200
such a way that if you vote for me

0:25:14.559,0:25:19.039
i can keep the income flowing or i can

0:25:17.200,0:25:21.120
keep your families fed when in reality

0:25:19.039,0:25:24.240
at least from my point of view

0:25:21.120,0:25:26.640
given the cover 19 pandemic he hasn’t

0:25:24.240,0:25:27.360
done all that great of a job in terms of

0:25:26.640,0:25:28.640
keeping

0:25:27.360,0:25:29.840
like stimulus checks and things like

0:25:28.640,0:25:31.440
that i know that it was also the

0:25:29.840,0:25:32.640
democrats involved with that

0:25:31.440,0:25:35.760
about not being able to push that

0:25:32.640,0:25:36.799
through but i think it’s it’s not nearly

0:25:35.760,0:25:38.720
as cut and dry

0:25:36.799,0:25:40.640
as trump would like people to believe

0:25:38.720,0:25:42.640
where if if you vote for him

0:25:40.640,0:25:44.080
immediately the economy we will be

0:25:42.640,0:25:44.960
better and in turn your life will be

0:25:44.080,0:25:47.279
better

0:25:44.960,0:25:49.679
and i and i agree with you on that point

0:25:47.279,0:25:52.000
a lot of the things i think that

0:25:49.679,0:25:54.240
i would knock donald trump on here is

0:25:52.000,0:25:56.559
he’s telling you that

0:25:54.240,0:25:58.320
things are bad you know we have a we

0:25:56.559,0:26:01.279
have riots in the streets

0:25:58.320,0:26:01.600
you know if if you elect joe biden you

0:26:01.279,0:26:03.440
know

0:26:01.600,0:26:04.720
your taxes are going to go up and this

0:26:03.440,0:26:06.000
is going to happen and that’s going to

0:26:04.720,0:26:07.360
happen

0:26:06.000,0:26:09.279
and he cites a lot of things that are

0:26:07.360,0:26:12.480
happening right now

0:26:09.279,0:26:13.840
under a republican administration so i

0:26:12.480,0:26:17.520
find it difficult

0:26:13.840,0:26:21.360
to correlate that electing

0:26:17.520,0:26:23.039
biden would change things since

0:26:21.360,0:26:24.400
obviously we’re still having riots in

0:26:23.039,0:26:25.919
the streets now

0:26:24.400,0:26:28.000
most recently in our backyard in

0:26:25.919,0:26:29.600
philadelphia here

0:26:28.000,0:26:32.720
and that’s happening on donald trump’s

0:26:29.600,0:26:35.760
watch so why would that change

0:26:32.720,0:26:37.919
on joe biden’s watch yeah those ads

0:26:35.760,0:26:38.960
that make that argument they perplexed

0:26:37.919,0:26:40.880
me because

0:26:38.960,0:26:42.080
he presents this image of an america

0:26:40.880,0:26:44.159
that is burning

0:26:42.080,0:26:45.200
but he’s the president right and it’s

0:26:44.159,0:26:46.960
it’s

0:26:45.200,0:26:48.799
on one hand i can’t tell if it’s smart

0:26:46.960,0:26:50.880
or or not because

0:26:48.799,0:26:52.320
some people are probably believing it

0:26:50.880,0:26:54.080
yeah and that if they give him another

0:26:52.320,0:26:57.440
four years he can stop it all

0:26:54.080,0:26:57.919
but in a lot of instances he is at some

0:26:57.440,0:27:00.080
fault

0:26:57.919,0:27:02.000
for the state of things now anyway yeah

0:27:00.080,0:27:03.360
so i mean i know we don’t want to turn

0:27:02.000,0:27:05.440
into a trump matching thing but

0:27:03.360,0:27:06.960
like you said we’ve had four years of

0:27:05.440,0:27:08.400
his performance to critique and i guess

0:27:06.960,0:27:10.960
that’s probably why we’re

0:27:08.400,0:27:12.400
leaning yeah that way well and he makes

0:27:10.960,0:27:14.080
you know he makes a point of talking

0:27:12.400,0:27:17.360
about the forest fires out

0:27:14.080,0:27:21.039
in in the uh on the west coast there

0:27:17.360,0:27:23.520
and a lot of experts make a case

0:27:21.039,0:27:24.640
for the forest fires being as bad as

0:27:23.520,0:27:27.039
they are because

0:27:24.640,0:27:28.720
of environmental issues global warming

0:27:27.039,0:27:29.600
and so forth the drought that’s been out

0:27:28.720,0:27:31.440
there

0:27:29.600,0:27:33.440
and donald trump tends to counter saying

0:27:31.440,0:27:35.039
well it’s forest management

0:27:33.440,0:27:36.720
well two-thirds of the land that’s

0:27:35.039,0:27:39.360
burning is

0:27:36.720,0:27:41.279
managed by the federal forest service

0:27:39.360,0:27:43.279
which is under his control

0:27:41.279,0:27:45.279
so if there’s a issue with forest

0:27:43.279,0:27:45.679
management it’s the administration

0:27:45.279,0:27:48.720
that’s

0:27:45.679,0:27:51.039
falling down on that um and

0:27:48.720,0:27:53.600
and i look at that the response that he

0:27:51.039,0:27:56.720
has and i have to question

0:27:53.600,0:27:59.120
really the veracity of it and then

0:27:56.720,0:28:01.039
even getting to something as simple as

0:27:59.120,0:28:03.760
the slogan you know biden is

0:28:01.039,0:28:05.279
uh build back better which okay that’s

0:28:03.760,0:28:08.640
kind of lean but

0:28:05.279,0:28:10.720
sure it’s different um but trump is

0:28:08.640,0:28:12.159
sticking with make america great again

0:28:10.720,0:28:14.240
and i have to wonder if that’s really

0:28:12.159,0:28:16.960
helping you out you were

0:28:14.240,0:28:18.000
you campaigned in 2016 with make america

0:28:16.960,0:28:20.720
great again

0:28:18.000,0:28:23.039
you got four years and you’re

0:28:20.720,0:28:24.480
campaigning on make america great again

0:28:23.039,0:28:26.399
are you saying that in the first four

0:28:24.480,0:28:29.200
years you didn’t make america great

0:28:26.399,0:28:30.640
yeah yeah sorry if that’s the case why

0:28:29.200,0:28:32.320
would i vote for you again

0:28:30.640,0:28:33.840
for another four years yeah i think

0:28:32.320,0:28:35.120
sometimes he’ll change it up and say

0:28:33.840,0:28:36.799
keep america great

0:28:35.120,0:28:38.320
but if this is our definition of

0:28:36.799,0:28:39.840
greatness it’s not

0:28:38.320,0:28:42.080
one that i would like to subscribe to

0:28:39.840,0:28:44.640
right right so it just

0:28:42.080,0:28:45.120
we seem to get very confusing messages

0:28:44.640,0:28:46.960
out of

0:28:45.120,0:28:48.240
out of the trump campaign at this point

0:28:46.960,0:28:50.000
in time

0:28:48.240,0:28:52.559
but you know on the opposite side we

0:28:50.000,0:28:53.679
have a number of controversies out there

0:28:52.559,0:28:55.679
that are

0:28:53.679,0:28:56.880
brewing around biden you know we’re

0:28:55.679,0:28:58.720
talking

0:28:56.880,0:29:00.559
packing the supreme court we’re talking

0:28:58.720,0:29:03.039
the whole hunter biden

0:29:00.559,0:29:05.039
laptop thing which is or isn’t an issue

0:29:03.039,0:29:07.360
and that’s still up for debate

0:29:05.039,0:29:09.279
but a lot of the tough questions

0:29:07.360,0:29:10.799
fracking being another one

0:29:09.279,0:29:13.600
a lot of the tough questions that are

0:29:10.799,0:29:15.520
being pushed at joe biden are

0:29:13.600,0:29:17.760
basically being ignored they’re not

0:29:15.520,0:29:19.039
being responded to and

0:29:17.760,0:29:21.200
and i don’t know if that’s a good

0:29:19.039,0:29:23.360
strategy in that

0:29:21.200,0:29:26.399
maybe his handlers are afraid of the

0:29:23.360,0:29:28.240
response that he’s going to give

0:29:26.399,0:29:30.080
if you look at his response on fracking

0:29:28.240,0:29:33.600
it’s been

0:29:30.080,0:29:35.919
fragmented it’s been inconsistent

0:29:33.600,0:29:36.960
and he’s countered previous statements a

0:29:35.919,0:29:40.399
number of times

0:29:36.960,0:29:40.960
during the campaign or is he just

0:29:40.399,0:29:43.440
avoiding

0:29:40.960,0:29:44.799
answering the tough questions yeah i

0:29:43.440,0:29:46.880
think it’s a little bit of both

0:29:44.799,0:29:48.399
and talking about fracking he when he

0:29:46.880,0:29:51.039
talks about the pandemic

0:29:48.399,0:29:51.679
he is all in favor of science and things

0:29:51.039,0:29:54.960
like that

0:29:51.679,0:29:56.960
but when it comes to fracking which is

0:29:54.960,0:29:58.080
you know scientists say is a bad thing

0:29:56.960,0:30:00.000
he’s all for it

0:29:58.080,0:30:01.440
so there’s conflicting messages there

0:30:00.000,0:30:02.480
and obviously with every politician

0:30:01.440,0:30:03.919
you’re gonna have

0:30:02.480,0:30:05.679
that you’re gonna have them conflict

0:30:03.919,0:30:08.880
with themselves but

0:30:05.679,0:30:10.720
i don’t know it’s it’s not necessarily

0:30:08.880,0:30:12.799
directly lying but it makes you wonder

0:30:10.720,0:30:15.039
if he does get four years in office

0:30:12.799,0:30:16.159
how that is that dichotomy almost is

0:30:15.039,0:30:17.039
going to be reflected in the

0:30:16.159,0:30:20.399
administration

0:30:17.039,0:30:21.840
yeah yeah should be interesting well

0:30:20.399,0:30:23.919
let’s get on to the second half of the

0:30:21.840,0:30:26.799
match here so round four

0:30:23.919,0:30:28.240
we’re going to uh the voters were asked

0:30:26.799,0:30:31.279
what their confidence is

0:30:28.240,0:30:34.320
on each candidate in certain key issues

0:30:31.279,0:30:35.600
and the first key issue again economic

0:30:34.320,0:30:37.840
policy

0:30:35.600,0:30:39.120
so 51 percent of people are more

0:30:37.840,0:30:42.159
confident

0:30:39.120,0:30:45.120
in trump’s economic policy

0:30:42.159,0:30:45.500
than biden who we only have a 48 but

0:30:45.120,0:30:46.720
again

0:30:45.500,0:30:48.320
[Music]

0:30:46.720,0:30:50.159
we have a four or five four to five

0:30:48.320,0:30:51.679
percent margin of error so that’s

0:30:50.159,0:30:54.000
statistically

0:30:51.679,0:30:54.880
irrelevant when it in the grand scheme

0:30:54.000,0:30:56.640
of things

0:30:54.880,0:30:58.320
so i’m not sure we can we can really

0:30:56.640,0:30:59.279
choose a winner from that one what’s our

0:30:58.320,0:31:00.640
next category

0:30:59.279,0:31:03.039
uh so the next category is law

0:31:00.640,0:31:05.919
enforcement and criminal justice issues

0:31:03.039,0:31:06.720
uh biden uh pulling ahead here with 46

0:31:05.919,0:31:09.279
percent

0:31:06.720,0:31:10.399
of confidence while trump has 41 percent

0:31:09.279,0:31:12.480
and i think that’s

0:31:10.399,0:31:14.720
again having four years of trump i think

0:31:12.480,0:31:16.720
that that is a reflection in this poll

0:31:14.720,0:31:18.080
because he president trump is dealing

0:31:16.720,0:31:21.200
with currently

0:31:18.080,0:31:22.640
with uh civil unrest quote unquote and

0:31:21.200,0:31:24.399
his issues and his takes on law

0:31:22.640,0:31:25.679
enforcement and how that should be

0:31:24.399,0:31:26.880
implemented so i think that you know

0:31:25.679,0:31:27.600
that’s how we’re what we’re seeing in

0:31:26.880,0:31:29.600
these polls

0:31:27.600,0:31:31.039
and i would tend to agree i don’t think

0:31:29.600,0:31:34.080
biden really has

0:31:31.039,0:31:36.720
any record on law enforcement

0:31:34.080,0:31:37.760
uh in the 47 years that he’s been in the

0:31:36.720,0:31:41.679
senate

0:31:37.760,0:31:44.159
um so i can’t i’m puzzled as to

0:31:41.679,0:31:45.519
why he’s he’s scoring so high here i

0:31:44.159,0:31:46.000
think it’s more a matter of trump

0:31:45.519,0:31:49.360
scoring

0:31:46.000,0:31:52.480
low than biden scoring high

0:31:49.360,0:31:55.440
and i think that’s just a product of

0:31:52.480,0:31:56.080
he’s different right so the next one we

0:31:55.440,0:31:59.840
have is

0:31:56.080,0:32:02.240
handling the coronavirus health impact

0:31:59.840,0:32:04.480
and here we get a significant percentage

0:32:02.240,0:32:05.679
difference as well oh actually no i’m

0:32:04.480,0:32:06.880
sorry i skipped the cut i would have

0:32:05.679,0:32:09.200
just read that

0:32:06.880,0:32:10.080
yeah i skipped a category foreign policy

0:32:09.200,0:32:12.559
issues

0:32:10.080,0:32:14.159
so in this in this year we have a six

0:32:12.559,0:32:15.519
point lead so this is a this is a

0:32:14.159,0:32:18.799
statistical

0:32:15.519,0:32:19.519
um a lead that we can cite here biden

0:32:18.799,0:32:22.399
has been

0:32:19.519,0:32:25.120
graded with a 50 level of confidence

0:32:22.399,0:32:27.600
versus trump’s 44

0:32:25.120,0:32:29.600
and i think this kind of speaks to both

0:32:27.600,0:32:31.200
of them biden definitely has a foreign

0:32:29.600,0:32:35.600
policy history

0:32:31.200,0:32:38.159
both in the senate and as vice president

0:32:35.600,0:32:39.360
and trump most definitely has a foreign

0:32:38.159,0:32:42.880
policy history

0:32:39.360,0:32:46.720
in his last four years which

0:32:42.880,0:32:47.679
given the countries that we seem to be

0:32:46.720,0:32:50.960
more

0:32:47.679,0:32:53.600
closely friendly with and those that we

0:32:50.960,0:32:57.200
are less friendly with i think

0:32:53.600,0:32:58.720
speaks volumes uh so the next category

0:32:57.200,0:32:59.519
is handling the coronavirus health

0:32:58.720,0:33:02.159
impact

0:32:59.519,0:33:03.279
uh biden uh wins this category getting

0:33:02.159,0:33:05.120
52 percent

0:33:03.279,0:33:06.799
while trump only has 41 percent and

0:33:05.120,0:33:07.360
again we’re seeing this recurring thing

0:33:06.799,0:33:09.200
with this

0:33:07.360,0:33:10.399
round specifically but i think it’s

0:33:09.200,0:33:12.080
about

0:33:10.399,0:33:14.000
i’m gonna repeat myself here but trump

0:33:12.080,0:33:16.880
having four years and biden

0:33:14.000,0:33:17.760
giving policy promises for if he were to

0:33:16.880,0:33:19.679
win the election

0:33:17.760,0:33:20.880
what his administration would look like

0:33:19.679,0:33:22.399
so i wonder if

0:33:20.880,0:33:24.640
trump falling behind a lot of these

0:33:22.399,0:33:25.360
categories is more just people wanting

0:33:24.640,0:33:27.760
something different

0:33:25.360,0:33:28.880
from biden or something better and on a

0:33:27.760,0:33:30.399
lot of these issues

0:33:28.880,0:33:32.399
well i think specifically the

0:33:30.399,0:33:35.200
coronavirus this sort of

0:33:32.399,0:33:36.799
came to a head in the second debate

0:33:35.200,0:33:40.399
where

0:33:36.799,0:33:44.799
the performance that trump has put up

0:33:40.399,0:33:47.679
for the pandemic we’re currently in

0:33:44.799,0:33:49.919
is abysmal given the number of

0:33:47.679,0:33:51.919
infections the number of deaths

0:33:49.919,0:33:54.080
the performance in relation to other

0:33:51.919,0:33:57.279
countries who have had it

0:33:54.080,0:34:00.720
the united states is last um

0:33:57.279,0:34:04.720
hands down and during the second

0:34:00.720,0:34:07.760
debate uh trump tried to sort of

0:34:04.720,0:34:11.359
retaliate or or punch back

0:34:07.760,0:34:15.200
on this when they talked about the h1n1

0:34:11.359,0:34:18.480
uh virus that struck during the

0:34:15.200,0:34:21.280
uh obama bind administration and

0:34:18.480,0:34:22.960
claimed that had they dealt with this

0:34:21.280,0:34:25.040
virus then the same way

0:34:22.960,0:34:26.960
the death toll would have been

0:34:25.040,0:34:29.119
monstrously higher two million people i

0:34:26.960,0:34:30.879
think is what he was quoted as

0:34:29.119,0:34:33.440
and when you look at the performance of

0:34:30.879,0:34:35.679
the obama and biden administration

0:34:33.440,0:34:38.240
the death toll was insignificant

0:34:35.679,0:34:40.639
compared to what we’re seeing now

0:34:38.240,0:34:41.520
and i think i think trump failed to make

0:34:40.639,0:34:44.879
a case

0:34:41.520,0:34:46.839
for a failure on biden’s part in the

0:34:44.879,0:34:51.440
first pandemic

0:34:46.839,0:34:54.560
which in combination with his

0:34:51.440,0:34:56.399
abysmal handling of it and i there’s

0:34:54.560,0:34:59.440
very few people i think that can

0:34:56.399,0:35:01.119
provide a convincing argument otherwise

0:34:59.440,0:35:02.560
i think those two things combined is

0:35:01.119,0:35:05.200
what’s really killing the

0:35:02.560,0:35:06.240
the public confidence i mean trump has

0:35:05.200,0:35:08.320
has declared that

0:35:06.240,0:35:10.400
the virus is over and we’ve got a

0:35:08.320,0:35:12.400
thousand people a day dying so it’s it’s

0:35:10.400,0:35:14.240
kind of hard to have any confidence in

0:35:12.400,0:35:14.880
someone who has that kind of distorted

0:35:14.240,0:35:16.400
version

0:35:14.880,0:35:17.920
yeah and on that issue also pulling out

0:35:16.400,0:35:19.599
of the world health organization in the

0:35:17.920,0:35:22.480
middle of a pandemic

0:35:19.599,0:35:23.920
i don’t know who green lit that i’m sure

0:35:22.480,0:35:25.359
it was probably mostly

0:35:23.920,0:35:27.599
president trump pushing for that given

0:35:25.359,0:35:28.880
his opinions on funding the world health

0:35:27.599,0:35:30.480
organization which

0:35:28.880,0:35:32.240
if you just do a cursory amount of

0:35:30.480,0:35:33.359
research it’s not quite as black and

0:35:32.240,0:35:36.480
white as he’s presenting it

0:35:33.359,0:35:38.400
right but i think things like that

0:35:36.480,0:35:40.320
whether they’re for in his mind the

0:35:38.400,0:35:42.400
right reasons are not they send

0:35:40.320,0:35:44.079
the wrong message to not only the

0:35:42.400,0:35:46.400
american people but to the rest of the

0:35:44.079,0:35:48.160
world on how america is handling this

0:35:46.400,0:35:49.760
and you’re seeing that with travel

0:35:48.160,0:35:50.720
restrictions being put back on americans

0:35:49.760,0:35:53.200
going to other countries

0:35:50.720,0:35:54.640
and cases continuing to rise every day

0:35:53.200,0:35:57.680
yeah well not only did he pull us out of

0:35:54.640,0:36:00.400
the world health organization he’s also

0:35:57.680,0:36:01.920
he has a crusade going to repeal the

0:36:00.400,0:36:03.760
affordable care act

0:36:01.920,0:36:05.520
which would leave 20 million plus

0:36:03.760,0:36:08.079
americans without health care during a

0:36:05.520,0:36:08.079
pandemic

0:36:08.320,0:36:13.119
maybe the aca probably maybe it needs to

0:36:11.119,0:36:15.359
be recalled and needs to be reworked and

0:36:13.119,0:36:16.880
something else put out

0:36:15.359,0:36:18.880
he doesn’t have a plan he hasn’t put a

0:36:16.880,0:36:20.079
plan forward it’s coming every two weeks

0:36:18.880,0:36:22.480
it’s coming

0:36:20.079,0:36:24.400
so until you have something that’s a

0:36:22.480,0:36:25.680
viable replacement that’s better

0:36:24.400,0:36:26.960
you can’t withdraw withdrawal and it’s

0:36:25.680,0:36:28.079
already made its way to the supreme

0:36:26.960,0:36:29.760
court we’re waiting on a vote for the

0:36:28.079,0:36:31.359
supreme court yeah and instead

0:36:29.760,0:36:32.800
it’s easy to say all these things about

0:36:31.359,0:36:35.440
trump because we don’t have a

0:36:32.800,0:36:36.880
biden in this situation and maybe things

0:36:35.440,0:36:37.599
would have gone just as poorly if biden

0:36:36.880,0:36:39.040
was in charge

0:36:37.599,0:36:41.599
but that’s not really the point the

0:36:39.040,0:36:43.040
point is trump was in charge and

0:36:41.599,0:36:45.359
this these are the consequences of his

0:36:43.040,0:36:48.400
actions that’s exactly yeah

0:36:45.359,0:36:52.400
so the next uh category we have um

0:36:48.400,0:36:56.240
which is a another clear victory for

0:36:52.400,0:37:00.320
um biden is race relations

0:36:56.240,0:37:03.359
uh 48 of americans are confident

0:37:00.320,0:37:06.560
in biden versus 35 and again

0:37:03.359,0:37:10.160
this is this is a direct reflection

0:37:06.560,0:37:12.960
of the last four years of

0:37:10.160,0:37:13.520
division that we saw under trump now

0:37:12.960,0:37:15.839
looking at

0:37:13.520,0:37:18.160
biden’s record biden does not have a

0:37:15.839,0:37:21.359
stellar record on race relations he’s

0:37:18.160,0:37:24.960
made comments in the past he’s had

0:37:21.359,0:37:27.520
policy decisions in the past that were

0:37:24.960,0:37:29.280
not in the best interest of minorities

0:37:27.520,0:37:31.200
and a lot of that is just being

0:37:29.280,0:37:32.560
overshadowed by the fact that donald

0:37:31.200,0:37:35.200
trump

0:37:32.560,0:37:36.160
in many cases has aligned himself with

0:37:35.200,0:37:39.359
white supremacist

0:37:36.160,0:37:41.839
groups he refuses to condemn them he’s

0:37:39.359,0:37:43.760
made comments to the effect that

0:37:41.839,0:37:45.599
you know there are decent people in the

0:37:43.760,0:37:49.599
kkk

0:37:45.599,0:37:52.079
he was asked to condemn the proud boys

0:37:49.599,0:37:54.400
on the debate stage and instead of

0:37:52.079,0:37:56.079
saying you know stand down it was stand

0:37:54.400,0:37:58.560
back and stand by

0:37:56.079,0:37:59.200
which is a very very different message

0:37:58.560,0:38:03.599
than stand

0:37:59.200,0:38:04.000
down um so this is a direct reflection i

0:38:03.599,0:38:06.160
think

0:38:04.000,0:38:07.760
on trump’s handling of the race relation

0:38:06.160,0:38:10.320
issue and just recently

0:38:07.760,0:38:11.839
the other day wasn’t and i know i don’t

0:38:10.320,0:38:13.040
want to speak out of turn here because i

0:38:11.839,0:38:13.599
don’t have the information in front of

0:38:13.040,0:38:17.040
me

0:38:13.599,0:38:19.599
but wasn’t biden’s bus uh confronted

0:38:17.040,0:38:21.920
with white supremacists down in florida

0:38:19.599,0:38:23.200
texas that was that was actually today

0:38:21.920,0:38:25.040
or yesterday

0:38:23.200,0:38:26.560
they were going to a rally they canceled

0:38:25.040,0:38:29.119
the rally because

0:38:26.560,0:38:30.240
trump supporters in pickup trucks

0:38:29.119,0:38:32.079
surrounded the bus

0:38:30.240,0:38:33.839
driving down the highway yeah and i

0:38:32.079,0:38:35.839
don’t know if if trump has a

0:38:33.839,0:38:36.880
has commented on that at all but either

0:38:35.839,0:38:38.880
way

0:38:36.880,0:38:41.440
it’s difficult to argue that these

0:38:38.880,0:38:43.760
things would not be happening if trump

0:38:41.440,0:38:44.560
president trump was not in office i i

0:38:43.760,0:38:47.599
agree and

0:38:44.560,0:38:50.240
and you can’t necessarily knock trump

0:38:47.599,0:38:50.960
for the the actions of every one of his

0:38:50.240,0:38:53.280
supporters

0:38:50.960,0:38:54.800
yeah what you can knock him for is his

0:38:53.280,0:38:56.560
reaction to it

0:38:54.800,0:38:58.079
you know he should have immediately come

0:38:56.560,0:39:00.800
out and condemned

0:38:58.079,0:39:03.280
that type of action and the other thing

0:39:00.800,0:39:05.599
you have to keep in mind is

0:39:03.280,0:39:07.200
vice president presidential candidates

0:39:05.599,0:39:09.839
have secret service

0:39:07.200,0:39:10.640
protection details so you have these

0:39:09.839,0:39:13.680
highly trained

0:39:10.640,0:39:14.480
individuals with weapons that are being

0:39:13.680,0:39:17.119
provoked

0:39:14.480,0:39:17.760
by these protesters american citizens

0:39:17.119,0:39:20.560
yeah

0:39:17.760,0:39:21.599
and and the fact that this is being

0:39:20.560,0:39:24.480
allowed to happen is

0:39:21.599,0:39:25.119
is extraordinary during an election yeah

0:39:24.480,0:39:27.119
i guess

0:39:25.119,0:39:28.320
speaking of all that the final category

0:39:27.119,0:39:29.520
we have here is bringing the country

0:39:28.320,0:39:30.640
closer together

0:39:29.520,0:39:32.880
obviously we’re just talking about

0:39:30.640,0:39:35.760
division and things like that uh

0:39:32.880,0:39:36.560
biden here getting 45 and trump getting

0:39:35.760,0:39:39.599
31

0:39:36.560,0:39:41.599
so again biden pulling ahead so

0:39:39.599,0:39:43.119
how do you how would you rate round four

0:39:41.599,0:39:45.359
at this point well it

0:39:43.119,0:39:46.960
definitely looks like biden overall

0:39:45.359,0:39:49.200
winning more categories here

0:39:46.960,0:39:50.800
but again is it just because we have

0:39:49.200,0:39:51.920
four years of donald trump and we want

0:39:50.800,0:39:52.720
something people want something

0:39:51.920,0:39:56.000
different

0:39:52.720,0:39:58.480
and i mean with things like

0:39:56.000,0:39:59.520
race relations we talk about how biden

0:39:58.480,0:40:02.400
has

0:39:59.520,0:40:04.480
certain issues with it in his past but

0:40:02.400,0:40:06.240
when you compare it to trump it’s

0:40:04.480,0:40:08.640
it’s it’s almost apples and oranges in

0:40:06.240,0:40:10.720
terms of of quantity of evidence

0:40:08.640,0:40:12.000
and i think that that is the reason that

0:40:10.720,0:40:13.040
biden pulls ahead in so many of these

0:40:12.000,0:40:15.359
categories

0:40:13.040,0:40:16.880
is the amount of evidence for each of

0:40:15.359,0:40:20.000
them on these issues

0:40:16.880,0:40:23.440
yeah and and you know it’s funny that

0:40:20.000,0:40:24.800
that you you say the phrase people might

0:40:23.440,0:40:26.960
just want something different because

0:40:24.800,0:40:29.200
that’s exactly what swept donald trump

0:40:26.960,0:40:31.359
in the office in 2016

0:40:29.200,0:40:34.480
was the idea that it’s not politics as

0:40:31.359,0:40:37.119
usual i’m different i’m not a politician

0:40:34.480,0:40:39.040
people are tired of politicians i’m

0:40:37.119,0:40:41.280
going to drain the swamp

0:40:39.040,0:40:42.560
so he swept into office under the

0:40:41.280,0:40:46.000
premise of

0:40:42.560,0:40:48.880
i’m different and now he’s under

0:40:46.000,0:40:49.359
real threat of being swept out for

0:40:48.880,0:40:51.760
people

0:40:49.359,0:40:54.000
looking for something different and his

0:40:51.760,0:40:56.240
premise was well you’ve had

0:40:54.000,0:40:57.359
50 years of politics as usual i’m

0:40:56.240,0:41:00.480
different

0:40:57.359,0:41:02.000
we’ve had four years of trump and

0:41:00.480,0:41:04.000
americans seem to want something

0:41:02.000,0:41:06.319
different now

0:41:04.000,0:41:08.240
so i’m not really sure where that

0:41:06.319,0:41:09.839
statement actually leads the country

0:41:08.240,0:41:12.000
yeah and i think that happens any time

0:41:09.839,0:41:14.240
you have the incumbent president

0:41:12.000,0:41:15.680
going against another the other

0:41:14.240,0:41:17.839
candidate from the other party

0:41:15.680,0:41:19.440
it’s always well i didn’t like what they

0:41:17.839,0:41:20.319
did so i’m going to vote for somebody

0:41:19.440,0:41:21.359
different whereas if you have a

0:41:20.319,0:41:23.280
president that

0:41:21.359,0:41:24.400
is overall liked in their first term

0:41:23.280,0:41:25.920
they’re more likely to get reelected

0:41:24.400,0:41:27.359
because people want more of the same

0:41:25.920,0:41:29.520
and we’re not seeing that here i don’t

0:41:27.359,0:41:31.599
think well the one thing i think that’s

0:41:29.520,0:41:33.359
very different about this race than i

0:41:31.599,0:41:34.640
think i’ve ever seen in the history of

0:41:33.359,0:41:36.319
politics

0:41:34.640,0:41:37.680
is you look at the national conventions

0:41:36.319,0:41:39.760
for each party

0:41:37.680,0:41:40.960
and the democratic national convention

0:41:39.760,0:41:43.839
quite literally had

0:41:40.960,0:41:45.599
more respectable republicans speaking in

0:41:43.839,0:41:48.160
favor of biden

0:41:45.599,0:41:50.800
than donald trump had in total speaking

0:41:48.160,0:41:52.560
at the republican national convention

0:41:50.800,0:41:55.280
when more republicans show up for the

0:41:52.560,0:41:57.680
democratic national convention

0:41:55.280,0:41:58.720
i think you’re seeing a divide in a

0:41:57.680,0:42:01.520
party where the par

0:41:58.720,0:42:02.000
that party has been very consciously

0:42:01.520,0:42:05.040
trying to

0:42:02.000,0:42:07.440
cover up that divide at this point and

0:42:05.040,0:42:09.440
the race that we’re looking at here

0:42:07.440,0:42:11.359
is not really just a race for the

0:42:09.440,0:42:14.720
president it’s a race for

0:42:11.359,0:42:17.200
the senate and the house right now the

0:42:14.720,0:42:19.359
the republicans control a majority there

0:42:17.200,0:42:21.920
so anything that the democrats try to do

0:42:19.359,0:42:23.520
is being thwarted and there’s a real

0:42:21.920,0:42:25.200
threat right now because

0:42:23.520,0:42:27.839
of how the country has been in the last

0:42:25.200,0:42:29.599
four years under a republican president

0:42:27.839,0:42:30.960
that not only do you see the executive

0:42:29.599,0:42:33.119
office switch

0:42:30.960,0:42:34.160
you may see enough seats in the senate

0:42:33.119,0:42:36.319
switch

0:42:34.160,0:42:38.560
that you could have a democratic

0:42:36.319,0:42:40.400
president and a democratic-controlled

0:42:38.560,0:42:42.640
congress

0:42:40.400,0:42:45.119
that will dominate for the next at least

0:42:42.640,0:42:46.880
two years until the midterms

0:42:45.119,0:42:48.319
so that could have a significant impact

0:42:46.880,0:42:49.440
on the future of this country

0:42:48.319,0:42:52.000
yeah and we’re not even taking into

0:42:49.440,0:42:54.240
account the supreme court too um having

0:42:52.000,0:42:55.119
majority republican judges is also going

0:42:54.240,0:42:56.800
to affect

0:42:55.119,0:42:58.720
how well and let’s not call them

0:42:56.800,0:42:59.280
republican judges that’s kind of unfair

0:42:58.720,0:43:01.760
because

0:42:59.280,0:43:03.040
you know they are impartial but they’ve

0:43:01.760,0:43:05.760
been

0:43:03.040,0:43:06.319
republican appointed judges yeah sorry

0:43:05.760,0:43:09.680
that’s

0:43:06.319,0:43:11.760
closer to what i meant um but those

0:43:09.680,0:43:13.760
appointing uh judges are also going to

0:43:11.760,0:43:16.960
affect how a lot of decisions will go

0:43:13.760,0:43:19.599
yeah you know whether you’re a trump

0:43:16.960,0:43:21.599
supporter or not the fact that he’s had

0:43:19.599,0:43:24.960
the opportunity to appoint

0:43:21.599,0:43:27.920
three justices to the supreme court when

0:43:24.960,0:43:29.920
in four years he’s gone through more

0:43:27.920,0:43:33.520
members of his administration than

0:43:29.920,0:43:35.359
than any other administration before

0:43:33.520,0:43:37.280
which to me if i look at it from from a

0:43:35.359,0:43:38.640
hiring manager standpoint if you go

0:43:37.280,0:43:40.240
through that many people in that short

0:43:38.640,0:43:41.839
period of time

0:43:40.240,0:43:44.880
you’re probably a terrible judge of

0:43:41.839,0:43:47.520
character when it comes to hiring people

0:43:44.880,0:43:49.040
and based on that revolving door policy

0:43:47.520,0:43:51.280
on his administration

0:43:49.040,0:43:52.720
he’s got three people appointed to the

0:43:51.280,0:43:56.800
highest court in the land for

0:43:52.720,0:43:58.640
life terms that will have

0:43:56.800,0:44:00.800
far reaching impacts on the future of

0:43:58.640,0:44:04.400
this company country than anything

0:44:00.800,0:44:08.480
yep um and that’s kind of alarming

0:44:04.400,0:44:11.359
you know even if you aren’t a of

0:44:08.480,0:44:12.960
democrat i think it’s alarming that any

0:44:11.359,0:44:13.599
single individual has that much of an

0:44:12.960,0:44:16.880
influence

0:44:13.599,0:44:17.599
over the supreme court so that was it

0:44:16.880,0:44:20.640
for round

0:44:17.599,0:44:24.319
four we have one more round

0:44:20.640,0:44:26.480
uh which i think is probably the biggest

0:44:24.319,0:44:28.319
round that we have and it’s a single

0:44:26.480,0:44:31.520
question round

0:44:28.319,0:44:33.119
and i think this will tip our

0:44:31.520,0:44:36.079
contest one way or the other because i

0:44:33.119,0:44:37.359
think you know tell me if i’m wrong but

0:44:36.079,0:44:39.119
i think we’re pretty evenly matched

0:44:37.359,0:44:40.640
right now yeah definitely

0:44:39.119,0:44:42.400
um i mean you have a couple instances of

0:44:40.640,0:44:42.800
biden pulling ahead but then you also

0:44:42.400,0:44:45.599
have

0:44:42.800,0:44:46.960
trump uh doing better in the other end

0:44:45.599,0:44:47.680
as well so it is i’d say it is pretty

0:44:46.960,0:44:50.400
back and forth

0:44:47.680,0:44:51.440
i agree so we’ll take a quick break and

0:44:50.400,0:44:54.520
we’ll come back for

0:44:51.440,0:44:59.170
round five and then our analysis

0:44:54.520,0:44:59.170
[Music]

0:44:59.920,0:45:04.000
so round five is a symbol a single

0:45:03.280,0:45:07.920
question

0:45:04.000,0:45:11.119
very simple and this comes from

0:45:07.920,0:45:14.800
the yougov.com survey

0:45:11.119,0:45:18.160
asking who they think is the most honest

0:45:14.800,0:45:22.720
candidate and people who are polled

0:45:18.160,0:45:25.920
about that question for donald trump 57

0:45:22.720,0:45:30.319
say he’s not honest and 35

0:45:25.920,0:45:33.280
say he is honest uh joe biden 48

0:45:30.319,0:45:34.240
say he is honest 41 says he’s not honest

0:45:33.280,0:45:36.240
so joe biden

0:45:34.240,0:45:37.440
his numbers are a lot closer than

0:45:36.240,0:45:40.319
president trump’s work

0:45:37.440,0:45:40.319
yes and and

0:45:40.880,0:45:44.839
i think this is probably the most

0:45:42.319,0:45:47.760
telling thing out there

0:45:44.839,0:45:51.119
um most people and

0:45:47.760,0:45:52.720
and i don’t mean to seem cynical

0:45:51.119,0:45:54.640
but when it comes to politics i think

0:45:52.720,0:45:55.760
most people expect your politicians to

0:45:54.640,0:45:58.480
lie to you

0:45:55.760,0:46:00.560
and i think if you don’t you’re naive um

0:45:58.480,0:46:01.760
the fact that they think that the only

0:46:00.560,0:46:04.400
career politician

0:46:01.760,0:46:05.599
in this race is more honest than our

0:46:04.400,0:46:08.560
current president

0:46:05.599,0:46:09.359
speaks volumes yeah especially given a

0:46:08.560,0:46:11.280
big

0:46:09.359,0:46:13.200
reason for trump getting elected in 2016

0:46:11.280,0:46:15.440
was his uh

0:46:13.200,0:46:16.400
his stance against career politicians

0:46:15.440,0:46:18.319
and now

0:46:16.400,0:46:19.520
the career politician is in some ways

0:46:18.319,0:46:21.760
being more favored

0:46:19.520,0:46:23.280
in different categories yes and i think

0:46:21.760,0:46:25.520
donald trump’s

0:46:23.280,0:46:26.720
again a lot of this reflection is on the

0:46:25.520,0:46:28.640
last four years i think

0:46:26.720,0:46:31.440
donald trump puts himself out there with

0:46:28.640,0:46:35.040
these absolute statements

0:46:31.440,0:46:38.319
and that’s a product of his political

0:46:35.040,0:46:39.680
negativity where a career politician

0:46:38.319,0:46:42.160
knows how to say something

0:46:39.680,0:46:42.960
that leaves him enough wiggle room to

0:46:42.160,0:46:45.760
get out of

0:46:42.960,0:46:46.160
an absolute statement yep um donald

0:46:45.760,0:46:48.400
trump

0:46:46.160,0:46:49.599
gets in front of the microphone and says

0:46:48.400,0:46:52.319
things like

0:46:49.599,0:46:53.920
there’ll be a vaccine in two weeks well

0:46:52.319,0:46:55.839
when there’s not a vaccine in two weeks

0:46:53.920,0:46:58.160
what are you going to do

0:46:55.839,0:46:59.680
you’ve kind of painted yourself into a

0:46:58.160,0:47:00.720
corner there yeah we talked about that

0:46:59.680,0:47:02.720
with biden

0:47:00.720,0:47:04.240
having more the career politician take

0:47:02.720,0:47:05.680
where he talking about things like

0:47:04.240,0:47:06.640
fracking and his criminal justice

0:47:05.680,0:47:08.240
background

0:47:06.640,0:47:10.160
where he gives himself that wiggle room

0:47:08.240,0:47:11.920
he doesn’t have a concrete stance which

0:47:10.160,0:47:13.359
ken is a negative and a positive at the

0:47:11.920,0:47:13.839
same time it depends on how you look at

0:47:13.359,0:47:16.720
it

0:47:13.839,0:47:18.079
because he can’t there’s very few except

0:47:16.720,0:47:18.960
for a few unfortunate quotes that he

0:47:18.079,0:47:21.440
said before

0:47:18.960,0:47:22.640
of things you can pull up to say oh well

0:47:21.440,0:47:25.839
here’s evidence this guy

0:47:22.640,0:47:28.160
you know not being fit to lead yeah and

0:47:25.839,0:47:30.240
and trump has shot himself in the foot a

0:47:28.160,0:47:32.880
number of times here

0:47:30.240,0:47:34.559
because trump is a gambler you know

0:47:32.880,0:47:35.760
trump is the type of person who takes

0:47:34.559,0:47:38.400
chances

0:47:35.760,0:47:39.040
and he plays the numbers in such a way

0:47:38.400,0:47:40.559
that

0:47:39.040,0:47:42.319
when he says something that’s an

0:47:40.559,0:47:46.480
absolute statement and it’s

0:47:42.319,0:47:47.599
true then he gains a lot of collateral

0:47:46.480,0:47:51.520
that way

0:47:47.599,0:47:53.839
and when it’s not true what happens

0:47:51.520,0:47:55.440
usually we get some other statement or

0:47:53.839,0:47:56.480
something else that distracts us away

0:47:55.440,0:47:58.240
from that

0:47:56.480,0:47:59.680
or he tries to wiggle his way out of it

0:47:58.240,0:48:01.680
or something like that

0:47:59.680,0:48:04.559
then he turns into the politician and he

0:48:01.680,0:48:06.400
starts the the song and dance

0:48:04.559,0:48:08.400
and i think as a result of that he comes

0:48:06.400,0:48:10.880
across as dishonest

0:48:08.400,0:48:12.400
and there was a statistic that i saw and

0:48:10.880,0:48:16.160
i think it was on usa today

0:48:12.400,0:48:17.920
i don’t remember but midway through this

0:48:16.160,0:48:20.160
race couple months ago

0:48:17.920,0:48:21.760
there was a statistic that came out that

0:48:20.160,0:48:24.079
rated donald trump

0:48:21.760,0:48:26.000
as every fourth word out of his mouth

0:48:24.079,0:48:28.559
was a lie

0:48:26.000,0:48:29.839
and that’s based on the number of words

0:48:28.559,0:48:32.960
that he’s given in public

0:48:29.839,0:48:34.800
and the number of lies that he’s told

0:48:32.960,0:48:36.319
and that’s i’ve never seen that

0:48:34.800,0:48:39.760
statistic for

0:48:36.319,0:48:41.839
any politician the fact that he

0:48:39.760,0:48:43.119
has so many untruths out there that they

0:48:41.839,0:48:45.440
can calculate that

0:48:43.119,0:48:47.200
is alarming yeah and i this came up with

0:48:45.440,0:48:47.680
the debates too people wanted live fact

0:48:47.200,0:48:49.520
checkers

0:48:47.680,0:48:50.800
i think even joe biden said there should

0:48:49.520,0:48:52.960
be live fact checkers

0:48:50.800,0:48:53.839
but i do think it can be a little bit

0:48:52.960,0:48:56.480
one-sided

0:48:53.839,0:48:57.680
against trump with how much he lies

0:48:56.480,0:48:58.400
especially with things like fact

0:48:57.680,0:49:00.160
checking

0:48:58.400,0:49:01.520
i think in terms of the debates i think

0:49:00.160,0:49:03.760
it should have been

0:49:01.520,0:49:04.880
a little bit more even with and who’s

0:49:03.760,0:49:05.599
being fact-checked the most where i

0:49:04.880,0:49:07.359
think it’s

0:49:05.599,0:49:09.200
trump makes himself an easy target given

0:49:07.359,0:49:09.760
all of his lies and i think that there

0:49:09.200,0:49:11.680
has been

0:49:09.760,0:49:13.359
a lot of attention on that and maybe not

0:49:11.680,0:49:15.599
as much on joe biden

0:49:13.359,0:49:16.400
well and donald trump has also put

0:49:15.599,0:49:20.640
himself in

0:49:16.400,0:49:22.000
in compromising positions in the past

0:49:20.640,0:49:23.760
like the woodward interviews for

0:49:22.000,0:49:28.319
instance that were done

0:49:23.760,0:49:30.559
months ago very early into the pandemic

0:49:28.319,0:49:32.559
and donald trump came out acknowledging

0:49:30.559,0:49:35.440
the fact that he knew how dangerous the

0:49:32.559,0:49:39.440
virus was he knew it was airborne

0:49:35.440,0:49:40.720
and he willingly chose to downplay

0:49:39.440,0:49:42.880
the virus because he didn’t want to

0:49:40.720,0:49:45.839
panic americans

0:49:42.880,0:49:45.839
and

0:49:46.319,0:49:49.920
why you would say something that was so

0:49:48.800,0:49:53.760
compromising

0:49:49.920,0:49:58.000
on tape knowing that you’re on tape

0:49:53.760,0:49:59.839
boggles my mind yeah and and

0:49:58.000,0:50:02.800
i don’t understand what he thought he

0:49:59.839,0:50:04.880
was going to gain from that

0:50:02.800,0:50:06.240
the way i see it is he doesn’t care

0:50:04.880,0:50:08.079
because

0:50:06.240,0:50:09.839
that is already out of the news cycle

0:50:08.079,0:50:10.559
right i mean he admitted to this on tape

0:50:09.839,0:50:12.480
and it was

0:50:10.559,0:50:13.920
major headlines for a couple days but

0:50:12.480,0:50:15.040
it’s out of the cycle now and i think

0:50:13.920,0:50:16.480
that that has been

0:50:15.040,0:50:18.400
a reoccurring thing with his

0:50:16.480,0:50:20.240
administration and his presidency

0:50:18.400,0:50:21.599
he says something insane or does

0:50:20.240,0:50:22.880
something insane

0:50:21.599,0:50:25.040
that you would never think a president

0:50:22.880,0:50:27.599
to do and in the past would probably be

0:50:25.040,0:50:29.200
extremely damning but because there’s so

0:50:27.599,0:50:30.880
it happens so frequently

0:50:29.200,0:50:33.119
we become desensitized to it and it

0:50:30.880,0:50:33.839
becomes unfortunately a new normal

0:50:33.119,0:50:35.920
almost

0:50:33.839,0:50:36.960
and i think that he says things like

0:50:35.920,0:50:39.839
this because

0:50:36.960,0:50:41.520
he knows that it’s not going to stick

0:50:39.839,0:50:43.760
yeah and i think you’re right and and i

0:50:41.520,0:50:46.800
think when he does something

0:50:43.760,0:50:48.160
where he should he shoots himself in the

0:50:46.800,0:50:50.720
foot

0:50:48.160,0:50:52.319
and the news organizations pick up on it

0:50:50.720,0:50:54.559
and report on it

0:50:52.319,0:50:55.760
then we get the always fake news they’re

0:50:54.559,0:50:57.839
not treating me fairly

0:50:55.760,0:50:59.920
did you ask buying the same questions

0:50:57.839,0:51:02.319
and he goes on this defensive rant to

0:50:59.920,0:51:04.800
distract away from everything

0:51:02.319,0:51:06.960
um so he’s i have to give him full props

0:51:04.800,0:51:08.160
as a master manipulator he really has

0:51:06.960,0:51:11.440
his the

0:51:08.160,0:51:13.359
the perfected the methodologies of

0:51:11.440,0:51:14.960
of manipulating the media at this point

0:51:13.359,0:51:16.319
in time yeah i mean that was kind of his

0:51:14.960,0:51:17.520
reputation even before he became

0:51:16.319,0:51:20.000
president right i mean

0:51:17.520,0:51:21.599
with his depiction in different movies

0:51:20.000,0:51:23.359
you know back in the future too

0:51:21.599,0:51:24.720
the president and that being loosely

0:51:23.359,0:51:26.720
based or not the president but

0:51:24.720,0:51:28.400
uh older biff being loosely based on

0:51:26.720,0:51:30.400
donald trump right and things like that

0:51:28.400,0:51:33.440
i think he’s always had this reputation

0:51:30.400,0:51:35.760
it was only before it was more normal

0:51:33.440,0:51:36.960
because he was a a greedy businessman

0:51:35.760,0:51:37.680
but when you put somebody like that in

0:51:36.960,0:51:40.160
office

0:51:37.680,0:51:40.800
the standards are different yeah some

0:51:40.160,0:51:43.440
yeah

0:51:40.800,0:51:45.440
interesting so that was it for round

0:51:43.440,0:51:46.480
five i think we can say that squarely

0:51:45.440,0:51:49.599
went to

0:51:46.480,0:51:50.160
joe biden we’ll be right back with our

0:51:49.599,0:51:53.359
final

0:51:50.160,0:51:56.880
thoughts and uh our tally of

0:51:53.359,0:52:00.300
who we think won the match up

0:51:56.880,0:52:00.300
[Music]

0:52:01.040,0:52:08.000
so in tallying up my numbers here

0:52:04.400,0:52:11.599
i’m showing biden with

0:52:08.000,0:52:12.079
49 points and trump with 45 what do you

0:52:11.599,0:52:14.880
show

0:52:12.079,0:52:15.440
i had biden with 49 and trump with 41

0:52:14.880,0:52:17.119
points

0:52:15.440,0:52:19.280
okay well you were much harder on trump

0:52:17.119,0:52:21.920
than i was well i was harder on trump

0:52:19.280,0:52:22.400
uh in rounds three and four only because

0:52:21.920,0:52:24.000
he

0:52:22.400,0:52:25.920
scored so much those are the categories

0:52:24.000,0:52:27.680
where he got destroyed by joe biden in

0:52:25.920,0:52:29.920
terms of the percentage differences

0:52:27.680,0:52:30.720
so i thought that that warranted lower

0:52:29.920,0:52:33.040
scores for him

0:52:30.720,0:52:33.920
fair enough fair enough uh i think

0:52:33.040,0:52:36.240
either way

0:52:33.920,0:52:37.440
we both agree that uh based on these

0:52:36.240,0:52:40.720
polls

0:52:37.440,0:52:43.440
uh from americans uh out there from two

0:52:40.720,0:52:46.559
different polling organizations that

0:52:43.440,0:52:48.800
biden was the clear winner

0:52:46.559,0:52:50.400
uh what are your thoughts moving forward

0:52:48.800,0:52:53.760
let me let me ask you a couple of

0:52:50.400,0:52:55.359
of questions that i think a lot of

0:52:53.760,0:52:57.040
americans have on their mind right now

0:52:55.359,0:53:00.800
and get your reaction

0:52:57.040,0:53:01.839
one how do you think november 3rd is

0:53:00.800,0:53:02.960
going to play out do you think we’re

0:53:01.839,0:53:04.319
going to have a winner

0:53:02.960,0:53:05.599
or do you think it’s going to take some

0:53:04.319,0:53:07.200
time to count the votes i think it’s

0:53:05.599,0:53:07.920
going to take a couple days afterwards

0:53:07.200,0:53:09.760
um

0:53:07.920,0:53:11.760
just because of the influx of mailing

0:53:09.760,0:53:15.040
balance especially with the pandemic

0:53:11.760,0:53:16.319
i think i’m and

0:53:15.040,0:53:17.839
i don’t know if you watched it last week

0:53:16.319,0:53:18.720
tonight but he talked about this thing

0:53:17.839,0:53:20.559
john oliver

0:53:18.720,0:53:21.920
about this thing called the blue shift

0:53:20.559,0:53:24.079
where because so many

0:53:21.920,0:53:24.960
um biden supporters are mailing in their

0:53:24.079,0:53:26.480
balance

0:53:24.960,0:53:28.160
those votes might not be counted until a

0:53:26.480,0:53:30.160
couple days after election night

0:53:28.160,0:53:31.359
whereas if a lot of people that support

0:53:30.160,0:53:33.200
trump vote in person

0:53:31.359,0:53:34.880
that might show him pulling ahead which

0:53:33.200,0:53:37.280
he could then capitalize on

0:53:34.880,0:53:40.000
to declare victory and i think that

0:53:37.280,0:53:42.319
that’s a scary prospect

0:53:40.000,0:53:43.920
and i think the official tally will

0:53:42.319,0:53:47.920
probably be a couple days later

0:53:43.920,0:53:51.280
um due to the just the mailing votes so

0:53:47.920,0:53:53.280
let’s say a week two weeks into this

0:53:51.280,0:53:55.599
we have decisive numbers that come back

0:53:53.280,0:53:58.800
after everything’s counted up

0:53:55.599,0:53:59.280
and let’s say hypothetically donald

0:53:58.800,0:54:02.000
trump

0:53:59.280,0:54:03.040
loses the election in the electoral

0:54:02.000,0:54:05.599
college

0:54:03.040,0:54:07.280
do you think we’ll see a peaceful

0:54:05.599,0:54:09.040
transition of power or do you

0:54:07.280,0:54:10.319
how do you think you how do you see that

0:54:09.040,0:54:12.720
going down

0:54:10.319,0:54:14.880
i i don’t really know honestly i mean

0:54:12.720,0:54:18.319
obviously he says all these things like

0:54:14.880,0:54:20.000
i’m not a good loser i will you know

0:54:18.319,0:54:22.960
he’s spoken to the idea that he might

0:54:20.000,0:54:24.559
try to to resist the peaceful transition

0:54:22.960,0:54:27.119
but i don’t know how much of that is

0:54:24.559,0:54:29.280
true i i wonder if

0:54:27.119,0:54:32.240
he’s just saying that to frighten people

0:54:29.280,0:54:34.640
or to appear stronger to his supporters

0:54:32.240,0:54:35.280
um but honestly i have no idea i have no

0:54:34.640,0:54:36.640
idea

0:54:35.280,0:54:38.319
how things are going to go if he does

0:54:36.640,0:54:39.359
end up losing the electoral college if

0:54:38.319,0:54:43.119
he does

0:54:39.359,0:54:44.960
um i’m not i don’t know unfortunately

0:54:43.119,0:54:46.720
well let me ask you the same question if

0:54:44.960,0:54:47.520
biden loses what do you think is going

0:54:46.720,0:54:48.799
to happen

0:54:47.520,0:54:51.520
how do you think the country’s going to

0:54:48.799,0:54:53.200
react uh i think his supporters are

0:54:51.520,0:54:56.160
going to be disappointed i know i would

0:54:53.200,0:54:57.040
personally be disappointed by it um but

0:54:56.160,0:55:00.079
i do think that

0:54:57.040,0:55:03.200
trump would probably run with it and

0:55:00.079,0:55:04.880
maybe use it as as fuel to

0:55:03.200,0:55:06.400
extend you know his power even more

0:55:04.880,0:55:08.559
because he won again

0:55:06.400,0:55:10.799
right and and that for him would be a

0:55:08.559,0:55:13.040
confirmation that he’s doing things

0:55:10.799,0:55:14.000
right the right way so it probably will

0:55:13.040,0:55:16.160
just lead to more of

0:55:14.000,0:55:17.359
what we have now now can i ask you have

0:55:16.160,0:55:18.880
you voted yeah

0:55:17.359,0:55:20.400
and you did mail-in voting i didn’t

0:55:18.880,0:55:22.160
improve

0:55:20.400,0:55:24.400
back in whenever i got it which is like

0:55:22.160,0:55:25.680
october now let me ask you a question

0:55:24.400,0:55:28.319
and this is a question that i

0:55:25.680,0:55:30.240
i i ask a lot of people when it comes to

0:55:28.319,0:55:31.680
politics

0:55:30.240,0:55:33.599
putting all the other issues aside

0:55:31.680,0:55:35.359
everything we talked about here

0:55:33.599,0:55:36.960
the one thing i ask people when they

0:55:35.359,0:55:40.000
look to vote

0:55:36.960,0:55:42.480
is are you better off today than you

0:55:40.000,0:55:45.760
were four years ago

0:55:42.480,0:55:47.200
i’d me personally i would say no but i

0:55:45.760,0:55:49.359
i realize that i am in a privileged

0:55:47.200,0:55:51.599
position and there are a lot of people

0:55:49.359,0:55:52.799
less fortunate than me that are in much

0:55:51.599,0:55:54.559
worse positions

0:55:52.799,0:55:56.160
and i do take that in consideration when

0:55:54.559,0:55:59.040
i vote i’d say the

0:55:56.160,0:56:00.559
biggest thing that the trump presidency

0:55:59.040,0:56:01.520
has affected me is the coronavirus

0:56:00.559,0:56:05.200
pandemic

0:56:01.520,0:56:05.839
and it limiting my options in my life in

0:56:05.200,0:56:08.799
terms of

0:56:05.839,0:56:10.960
social options and things for school um

0:56:08.799,0:56:13.359
you know having to do school remotely

0:56:10.960,0:56:15.200
um but like i said other people have

0:56:13.359,0:56:17.839
been affected in much worse ways

0:56:15.200,0:56:18.480
um from the presidency should we see a

0:56:17.839,0:56:20.480
change

0:56:18.480,0:56:21.920
in administration here and joe biden

0:56:20.480,0:56:24.880
come into power do you

0:56:21.920,0:56:26.319
think the coronavirus will be dealt with

0:56:24.880,0:56:31.200
better do you think

0:56:26.319,0:56:31.200
we’ll see a more involved government and

0:56:31.280,0:56:34.960
addressing of it i do i i at least i

0:56:33.680,0:56:37.119
hope i hope so

0:56:34.960,0:56:40.000
um i hope that funds will be better

0:56:37.119,0:56:43.119
allocated i think that if

0:56:40.000,0:56:44.880
if the leader of the country admits that

0:56:43.119,0:56:46.880
there is a problem and is working

0:56:44.880,0:56:48.640
towards it i think that that will help

0:56:46.880,0:56:50.000
at least some people in the country take

0:56:48.640,0:56:52.559
it more seriously as well

0:56:50.000,0:56:53.760
because i know at least my life people a

0:56:52.559,0:56:54.880
lot of people are not taking it as

0:56:53.760,0:56:57.040
seriously as they should

0:56:54.880,0:56:58.160
and i wonder how much of that comes from

0:56:57.040,0:56:59.520
the kind of rhetoric they’re hearing

0:56:58.160,0:57:02.799
about it from their leaders

0:56:59.520,0:57:04.319
right and and economically speaking

0:57:02.799,0:57:07.520
who do you think the country would be

0:57:04.319,0:57:10.559
better off with trump or biden

0:57:07.520,0:57:13.839
i am not super well versed in

0:57:10.559,0:57:15.200
economics i know that a lot of people

0:57:13.839,0:57:18.799
are citing

0:57:15.200,0:57:21.440
tax uh trump’s tax taxing of

0:57:18.799,0:57:22.960
or no biden’s taxing of the wealthy

0:57:21.440,0:57:23.839
which i am in support of i think that

0:57:22.960,0:57:25.200
that’s a good thing

0:57:23.839,0:57:27.359
i think people that are wealthy should

0:57:25.200,0:57:29.920
contribute more um

0:57:27.359,0:57:30.640
i’m not but like i said i’m not familiar

0:57:29.920,0:57:32.000
um as

0:57:30.640,0:57:35.359
as much as i should be with the

0:57:32.000,0:57:38.079
economics is there any outstanding

0:57:35.359,0:57:39.680
uh issue that you think sticks out more

0:57:38.079,0:57:40.799
than anything else that we’ve discussed

0:57:39.680,0:57:43.680
that would decide

0:57:40.799,0:57:44.000
who do you think should be president i

0:57:43.680,0:57:46.079
know

0:57:44.000,0:57:47.599
that before i said that it’s not all

0:57:46.079,0:57:48.559
about personality when you’re picking a

0:57:47.599,0:57:52.000
candidate

0:57:48.559,0:57:53.440
but for me i just don’t see voting for

0:57:52.000,0:57:55.599
trump as the moral

0:57:53.440,0:57:57.040
right thing to do and that’s honestly

0:57:55.599,0:57:59.359
that’s the biggest thing for me

0:57:57.040,0:58:00.400
i don’t support biden on a lot of issues

0:57:59.359,0:58:01.280
i don’t agree with him on a lot of

0:58:00.400,0:58:04.319
issues

0:58:01.280,0:58:05.040
but i just don’t think trump is a good

0:58:04.319,0:58:07.680
man

0:58:05.040,0:58:09.119
and maybe biden isn’t either but i think

0:58:07.680,0:58:09.839
there’s something about trump that for

0:58:09.119,0:58:12.640
me

0:58:09.839,0:58:14.480
he’s just not not the right person to be

0:58:12.640,0:58:17.599
in office or to be in power

0:58:14.480,0:58:18.720
fair enough uh that was all i had did

0:58:17.599,0:58:19.839
you have anything else you want to get

0:58:18.720,0:58:23.200
into nope

0:58:19.839,0:58:27.359
all right i think that’s it for today

0:58:23.200,0:58:29.680
i think uh our next podcast will be

0:58:27.359,0:58:31.760
very interesting depending on how this

0:58:29.680,0:58:35.359
election goes i assume

0:58:31.760,0:58:37.760
uh by the time we go on the air again

0:58:35.359,0:58:38.880
that decision will have been made by the

0:58:37.760,0:58:41.119
country

0:58:38.880,0:58:41.920
and we’ll see what direction we go and

0:58:41.119,0:58:44.160
uh

0:58:41.920,0:58:47.119
it might even decide what we talk about

0:58:44.160,0:58:49.440
on the next podcast

0:58:47.119,0:58:50.880
that was all we had uh thank you for

0:58:49.440,0:58:53.680
watching today

0:58:50.880,0:58:55.119
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