This week we mark our 100th episode with a special guest. Dan Wirth joins us virtually to discuss fun and games and the important role they play in the lives of teens. We’ll discuss the finer points of what makes a good game, why challenges in games help us to build character and learn how to interact with others. We’ll also talk about how games and play an educational role with their subject matter.
We’ll also talk about collecting and the benefits that having a passion for building and curating a collection. We’ll learn how it helps teens to learn focus, manage their money and learn responsibility that will benefit them later in life.
Show Notes
[INTRO THEME]
- [INTRODUCTIONS – 5 mins]
- Insights Into Teens: Episode 100 “Fun and Games with Dan”
- My strong and confident co-host Madison Whalen
- Our special guest today is Dan Wirth, a toy and games expert
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[TRANSITION]
[SEGMENT 1 – 10 mins]
Introduction
- Tell us a little bit about your background in gaming and collecting
- Would you describe yourself as a collector or a dealer of classic toys
- How long did you own a gaming/toy store
- Do you still sell toys
- What is your go to game at a party where the participants might not be big on gaming
- How many games would you estimate you currently own
- What do you find to be the most important thing that games offer to individuals
- What do you find to be the most important thing that collecting offers to individuals
- What do you enjoy most about sharing a new game with people
- Have you ever done reviews for games
- Have you ever graded toys professionally
- Do you go to game and toy shows? If so what is the choice show for collectors to go to in the area
[AD1: SSE]
[SEGMENT 2 – 10-15 mins]
Importance of Teens and Gaming and the Importance of Family Game Time
- Games are key to the personal development of youth during adolescence and offer a number of benefits.
- Playing games allows young people to learn and have fun.
- Games can also be used as a means of distraction and personal growth.
- The most popular games for teens are those that provide challenges to the mind. Some examples are:
- strategy games
- Puzzle games like tetris, candy crush, tsum tsum
- board games
- Monopoly, Clue, The Game of LIfe
- word games
- Scattergories, scrabble, words with friends, boggle
- strategy games
- Games are truly a privileged tool that allows for the development of a positive attitude that can accompany teens for the rest of their lives.
- Playing games combines pleasure, participation, creativity and experience
- Quick Questions:
- Would you agree that there are loads of benefits to teens from games?
- Do you believe that the games teens want are the ones that give them a challenge?
- What other types of games do you think challenge the mind of a teen?
- Do you think games can serve as a means of learning for teens?
- Do you think it’s possible to play too many games as a teen?
- Do you think teens get the same benefits out of video games as they do from more traditional table top style games
- Do you think there are any disadvantages from teens playing games?
- Do you think individual game play or group game play is more beneficial to teens?
- Are there other benefits teens can benefit from when playing games?
[AD2: ENTERTAINMENT]
[SEGMENT 3 – 10-15 mins]
Deep dive with Dan
- How old were you when you started to get into gaming and collecting
- What games were popular when you were a teen
- Did he ever play any bizarre games
- Was there are particular theme of gaming or game type that you were interested in
- Do you play any modern games now
- What makes a good game
- Have you ever made your own game
- Are there any games you think are underrated
- What is your gaming preference as far as game type (card games, board games, team based games, dice games, tabletop miniatures, role playing, etc.)
- What inspired you to start collecting
- How many collectibles do you estimate you have
- Do you just collect, or do you sell/trade your items
- Do you have any high value items
- What was the biggest win of a collectible you’ve managed to acquire
- What type of collectibles do you prefer
[TRANSITION]
- [CLOSE]
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episode 100
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fun and games with dan i’m your host
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joseph whalen
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and my strong and confident co-host
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madison whalen
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hi everyone how you doing today maddie
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i’m doing all right
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so we’re going a little off schedule
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today’s a tuesday we’re recording on
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because we have a special guest with us
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today let me introduce our special guest
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today discussing fun and games with us
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is dan worth how are you doing today dan
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i’m doing very well thank you thanks for
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having me on the show thank you for
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joining us
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so dan is uh is a resident expert
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on games um every time we think of
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anything that has to do with fun and
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games toys collectibles board games card
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games
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dan’s our man to go to so we’re gonna be
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asking dan some questions about gaming
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we have uh
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some statistics some information on how
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games affect
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teens we’ll be talking about that and
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then we’re going to be doing a
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deep dive with uh dan and some of his
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experience
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and just get his general input on gaming
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before we do that though i do want to
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so bef you know before we get too deep
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into things let’s let’s
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introduce dan again and and let’s find
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out a little bit more about dan
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and what is some of his expertise why
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don’t you why don’t you take that
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okay so tell us a bit about your
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background in gaming
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and collecting sure
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i have been actively collecting
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something
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since the early 70s um i started with
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comic books
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um picked up board games uh in the
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1980s and action figures along the way
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um pretty much just uh all pop culture
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sci-fi monsters um
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tv movie related stuff uh and then
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it’s just such a wealth of
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just a great time for board games in
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general right now because there’s so
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much
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out there to choose from and it’s a
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great subject for you guys to be talking
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about tonight
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okay all righty uh would you describe
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yourself as a collector or a dealer of
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classic toys
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right now i would say it’s much more of
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a collector
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um some of that is by choice some of it
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is by
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you know the situation with the kovid uh
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restrictions that are on us right now
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it’s very difficult to try to do
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a lot of the events that we would
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normally do like comic cons
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toy shows antique shows things like that
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we did own a store in bethlehem
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for about six years that was a toy and
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collectible shop
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and that was a you know just a few years
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ago
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but right now the environment does not
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lend itself as easily
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to um have people walk in or even do the
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conventions as much so i am much more of
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a collector right now
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just picking up things that i think are
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going to be of interest to the group
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that i game with
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alrighty that kind of leads well into
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our second question
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so how long did you own your gaming
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slash toy store
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it was about six years we had a really
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good run in downtown
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bethlehem pennsylvania we had a variety
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of
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collectibles from comic books to
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um action figures board games
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of course certain card games like magic
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and pokemon
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and you know some of the uh mainstream
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stuff that you’ll see and
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we tried to really pick some obscure
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things as well that we would pick up at
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you know major toy shows like the new
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york toy show that’s
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at the javits center and just odds and
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ends that we would find in our travels
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so dang you mentioned uh comics at the
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store are you
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a comic aficionado or a comic collector
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what’s your affiliation with comics
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i would say that is primarily where my
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heart lies joe
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uh my collection started with marvel
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um specifically with spider-man um i
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started with
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uh spider-man number 96
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in 1971 back in the olden days
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yes they did have comic books back then
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um
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and it was that first comic book that
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led me to get all the rest of those
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and a lot of the other major marvel
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comics um so i would consider myself
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primarily a comic book collector
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but as it’s turned out and as we’ll talk
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about
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um it’s hard to ignore the fact that
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i’ve got
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a very large collection of board games
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so i have to ask you on the subject of
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comics are you
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just marvel are you dc are you indie
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where where do you usually lie in that
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in that realm
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uh my loyalties have gotten much broader
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over the years uh i am not afraid to
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expand into some of the dc comics uh
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i also love a lot of independent comics
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and have loved a lot of independent
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comics over the years
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um we we have those folks to thank for
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the teenage
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ninja mutant turtles we have them to
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thank for the walking dead
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um the boys um a lot of the stuff that’s
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out there right now that is so popular
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um is a result of independence
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and that’s it’s a huge faction in the
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comic book world
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yeah i agree 100 there what’s our next
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question
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um our next question was do you still
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sell toys
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i do it’s more of an online sales
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technique that we use you know we do
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some ebay
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we still sell some things through our
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facebook page
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for the underground layer uh but right
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now i’m much more of a collector than a
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seller
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all right so picture this scenario so
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picture the scenario where
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so what is your go-to game at a party
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where the participants might not be
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it big on gaming
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that’s a great question because you know
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you’re you’re going to have a wide
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variety of people at things like that
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and you want to get something that’s
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going to
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appeal to everyone i like things like
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apples to apples that’s a great general
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easy board game to to you know teach
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people i know it’s basically cards but
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uh i think we have to really expand the
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way that we’re thinking about this
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category to include some of that stuff
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um and you can’t mention apples to
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apples without the adult version of also
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cards against humanity which has just
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become so huge
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of a product over the last couple of
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years and immensely popular
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and has really gotten people who
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wouldn’t normally do gaming nights to do
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some gaming nights
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uh when we would go to
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uh the various uh toy shows that would
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introduce us to new games
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some of the companies that we found that
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really grabbed us were
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uh companies like calliope who is
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responsible for
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role for it which is a great party game
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you can play it up to five people
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it’s a dice rolling game where you’re
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trying to win cards
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the other one that they did that we
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really love is sorrow and sorrow of the
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seas
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which was a very creative take on a
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board game where
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you are sailing on ships creating paths
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for yourself
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but also trying to cut off your
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opponents and be the last man standing
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on the board
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um another one that’s great for parties
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and that we have found over the years
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really helps people break the ice is a
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game called
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outburst um that’s by um
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it’s a a nice shout out game where
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people don’t have to be shy about it you
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know you’re trying to come up with
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answers as fast as you can
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there’s another one that just came out
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recently called code names which is of
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the same flavor
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um by a company called cge and that’s
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gotten a lot of popularity and there’s a
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lot of different versions of that one
0:10:26.560,0:10:30.839
out there as well
0:10:28.079,0:10:32.079
great that’s a that’s a lot of great
0:10:30.839,0:10:35.120
suggestions
0:10:32.079,0:10:37.120
um next is a pretty big question
0:10:35.120,0:10:39.839
how many games would you estimate you
0:10:37.120,0:10:42.399
currently own
0:10:39.839,0:10:43.920
uh this was an eye-opening question for
0:10:42.399,0:10:46.959
me
0:10:43.920,0:10:48.720
because i don’t think i realized how
0:10:46.959,0:10:51.920
many games i had
0:10:48.720,0:10:55.519
but just in the house right now uh
0:10:51.920,0:10:58.320
we have close to 100 so i would say
0:10:55.519,0:10:59.279
easily we have over 200 different kinds
0:10:58.320,0:11:02.560
of board games
0:10:59.279,0:11:05.600
i am not counting uh the card games
0:11:02.560,0:11:07.279
in that so or or just the strict dice
0:11:05.600,0:11:09.680
games like yahtzee
0:11:07.279,0:11:11.360
and uh you know magic the gathering and
0:11:09.680,0:11:13.360
some of the other stuff like that that
0:11:11.360,0:11:15.200
is a whole another category we’re not
0:11:13.360,0:11:15.920
going to count the role-playing games as
0:11:15.200,0:11:19.200
well like d
0:11:15.920,0:11:19.200
and d or
0:11:21.440,0:11:24.800
again another totally different category
0:11:24.399,0:11:26.720
and
0:11:24.800,0:11:30.160
and that would be why dan’s on this show
0:11:26.720,0:11:30.160
because dan is the expert
0:11:32.000,0:11:36.959
what else do we have okay next one is
0:11:35.200,0:11:40.800
what do you find to be the most
0:11:36.959,0:11:40.800
important thing that games offer to
0:11:40.839,0:11:45.440
individuals
0:11:42.240,0:11:45.920
one of the great things about board
0:11:45.440,0:11:48.800
games
0:11:45.920,0:11:50.720
is that it brings people together has
0:11:48.800,0:11:54.480
them sitting in close proximity
0:11:50.720,0:11:55.440
and exchanging looks and smiles and
0:11:54.480,0:11:56.880
jokes
0:11:55.440,0:11:58.399
and that’s been one of the great things
0:11:56.880,0:11:59.360
that my friends and i have shared over
0:11:58.399,0:12:02.000
the years with
0:11:59.360,0:12:03.120
sitting around playing a board game is
0:12:02.000,0:12:05.680
as
0:12:03.120,0:12:06.320
much as it might be competitive you’re
0:12:05.680,0:12:10.160
also
0:12:06.320,0:12:12.320
laughing and joking and talking uh it’s
0:12:10.160,0:12:16.079
a great way to just have a nice
0:12:12.320,0:12:17.440
uh camaraderie and have people come
0:12:16.079,0:12:19.360
together over
0:12:17.440,0:12:22.320
you know something that’s a neutral
0:12:19.360,0:12:25.600
ground and you enjoy doing
0:12:22.320,0:12:27.600
yeah that makes sense um
0:12:25.600,0:12:29.360
now to kind of go along with that
0:12:27.600,0:12:31.120
question what do you find is the most
0:12:29.360,0:12:34.079
important thing that collecting offers
0:12:31.120,0:12:34.079
to individuals
0:12:35.440,0:12:41.600
i find that both from myself
0:12:39.360,0:12:42.800
and to all my friends who collect and
0:12:41.600,0:12:44.240
the people that used to come into the
0:12:42.800,0:12:47.200
underground lair
0:12:44.240,0:12:49.120
um there’s always that feeling of taking
0:12:47.200,0:12:51.040
you back to your childhood to taking you
0:12:49.120,0:12:53.519
to fond memories
0:12:51.040,0:12:54.959
and and just you know warming your heart
0:12:53.519,0:12:56.480
when you see some of these things that
0:12:54.959,0:12:59.440
you grew up with
0:12:56.480,0:13:01.760
uh and it’s right there in your hands
0:12:59.440,0:13:04.959
again and it and it really
0:13:01.760,0:13:06.160
sparks a lot of memories and as well as
0:13:04.959,0:13:08.320
some people will say
0:13:06.160,0:13:11.360
you know the collecting aspect of it can
0:13:08.320,0:13:14.240
be monetarily beneficial
0:13:11.360,0:13:14.800
um you can make a lot of money with you
0:13:14.240,0:13:16.880
know
0:13:14.800,0:13:17.839
buying older board games or rare board
0:13:16.880,0:13:21.360
games
0:13:17.839,0:13:24.639
um i find much more often that
0:13:21.360,0:13:26.160
it’s that sense of nostalgia
0:13:24.639,0:13:27.600
more than anything else that brings
0:13:26.160,0:13:28.800
people back to some of those classic
0:13:27.600,0:13:30.880
board games
0:13:28.800,0:13:33.040
and i i have to agree with you 100 there
0:13:30.880,0:13:35.839
every time i stepped in the store
0:13:33.040,0:13:37.360
uh it it i was a kid again stepping in
0:13:35.839,0:13:38.880
you know it was let’s look around let’s
0:13:37.360,0:13:42.000
see what i can find here
0:13:38.880,0:13:44.880
that that brings me back
0:13:42.000,0:13:46.399
all those years and and for me from a
0:13:44.880,0:13:49.519
collecting standpoint it’s
0:13:46.399,0:13:51.360
it’s almost it’s the hunt that’s so
0:13:49.519,0:13:53.519
rewarding like i know there’s a piece
0:13:51.360,0:13:55.360
that i want you know i’m a as you know a
0:13:53.519,0:13:57.199
big star wars collector
0:13:55.360,0:13:58.880
and when there’s a piece that i find you
0:13:57.199,0:14:02.720
know we had gone to uh
0:13:58.880,0:14:04.560
the one uh show out in uh
0:14:02.720,0:14:06.000
i wasn’t out in bucks out where the the
0:14:04.560,0:14:09.120
um
0:14:06.000,0:14:12.560
the fuse is huge yeah yeah
0:14:09.120,0:14:14.959
and there was a um a piece
0:14:12.560,0:14:16.160
uh from the 90s it was it was a darth
0:14:14.959,0:14:19.279
vader statue
0:14:16.160,0:14:21.040
that i had been looking for for years
0:14:19.279,0:14:22.720
and i hadn’t found it anywhere had been
0:14:21.040,0:14:23.360
on the market anywhere can’t find it on
0:14:22.720,0:14:24.800
the internet
0:14:23.360,0:14:27.519
nothing i mean when you can’t find it on
0:14:24.800,0:14:30.480
ebay you know you’re in trouble
0:14:27.519,0:14:31.920
and lo and behold it was their top of
0:14:30.480,0:14:34.079
the pile on display
0:14:31.920,0:14:35.760
in the back corner and i found it and
0:14:34.079,0:14:37.360
instantly bought it because that was the
0:14:35.760,0:14:38.800
piece that i’ve been looking for for so
0:14:37.360,0:14:42.160
long
0:14:38.800,0:14:44.399
so and it was so you have to think that
0:14:42.160,0:14:46.959
that’s that feeling that indiana jones
0:14:44.399,0:14:50.560
has every time he finds a relic
0:14:46.959,0:14:52.079
because the joy of that moment of
0:14:50.560,0:14:54.480
finding that rare thing
0:14:52.079,0:14:55.279
out in the wild is there there’s nothing
0:14:54.480,0:14:57.360
quite like it
0:14:55.279,0:14:58.720
so madison also i would say it’s a
0:14:57.360,0:15:01.440
thrill of the hunt
0:14:58.720,0:15:03.279
like uh your dad is saying it’s it’s
0:15:01.440,0:15:06.639
that adventure and i
0:15:03.279,0:15:09.279
for many years had my own
0:15:06.639,0:15:11.040
versions of belloc when i was out at
0:15:09.279,0:15:12.000
flea markets and yard sales and we would
0:15:11.040,0:15:13.920
run into each other
0:15:12.000,0:15:15.760
and we would just show off what we had
0:15:13.920,0:15:17.680
found and like oh
0:15:15.760,0:15:19.920
once again we see that what you once
0:15:17.680,0:15:22.959
possessed is now
0:15:19.920,0:15:24.000
well there’s that aspect too but um it’s
0:15:22.959,0:15:27.600
it’s just fun
0:15:24.000,0:15:29.680
and and good-hearted uh ribbing um
0:15:27.600,0:15:31.680
but man it is exciting when you can find
0:15:29.680,0:15:33.519
that one rare thing
0:15:31.680,0:15:35.600
that you’ve been looking for for so long
0:15:33.519,0:15:38.079
and and we all certainly have them
0:15:35.600,0:15:41.440
yep yeah well maybe not you yet madison
0:15:38.079,0:15:43.519
but you will
0:15:41.440,0:15:45.839
what else do we have sweetie so the next
0:15:43.519,0:15:49.279
question is what do you enjoy most about
0:15:45.839,0:15:49.279
sharing a new game with people
0:15:50.480,0:15:53.759
i love the expressions on people’s faces
0:15:53.120,0:15:56.560
when they’re
0:15:53.759,0:15:57.040
getting pulled into the spirit of the
0:15:56.560,0:16:00.720
game
0:15:57.040,0:16:03.519
and uh that sense of
0:16:00.720,0:16:04.240
joining on an adventure i can tell you
0:16:03.519,0:16:06.399
that
0:16:04.240,0:16:08.880
one of the most fun things and and i’m
0:16:06.399,0:16:11.920
gonna bring this home to like a personal
0:16:08.880,0:16:14.160
aspect uh when
0:16:11.920,0:16:15.360
one of the first times when your your
0:16:14.160,0:16:18.240
mom and dad
0:16:15.360,0:16:19.440
and i would play a board game like the
0:16:18.240,0:16:22.880
buffy game
0:16:19.440,0:16:25.040
uh buffy the vampire slayer uh it was
0:16:22.880,0:16:27.360
very exciting to see you know the
0:16:25.040,0:16:29.279
interactions of the characters and and
0:16:27.360,0:16:31.040
not know what situations are going to
0:16:29.279,0:16:32.639
come up and then remember what had
0:16:31.040,0:16:35.279
happened on the show and
0:16:32.639,0:16:36.959
you know it was just such a blast to
0:16:35.279,0:16:37.600
share those laughs and then you tell
0:16:36.959,0:16:40.000
stories
0:16:37.600,0:16:41.680
and it just makes it a very interesting
0:16:40.000,0:16:45.920
evening around a board game to
0:16:41.680,0:16:49.040
to be able to share that yep
0:16:45.920,0:16:51.680
i definitely i remember a lot of
0:16:49.040,0:16:53.839
i remember a lot of times when i don’t
0:16:51.680,0:16:55.199
particularly like new things i will be
0:16:53.839,0:16:58.399
honest i don’t like
0:16:55.199,0:17:01.839
change very much but when um
0:16:58.399,0:17:02.720
i had well when i first learned about
0:17:01.839,0:17:05.120
monopoly
0:17:02.720,0:17:06.799
i didn’t want to put the game down it
0:17:05.120,0:17:09.839
just was so fun to me
0:17:06.799,0:17:11.839
and like at first i was kind of like um
0:17:09.839,0:17:13.120
i don’t know if i want to play this and
0:17:11.839,0:17:15.839
then by the end i’m like
0:17:13.120,0:17:17.520
okay come on i want to yeah we went
0:17:15.839,0:17:18.000
through our monopoly phase where we
0:17:17.520,0:17:21.120
would play
0:17:18.000,0:17:22.400
that nightly for a couple of weeks
0:17:21.120,0:17:24.720
straight
0:17:22.400,0:17:25.439
and the worst part was i would win a lot
0:17:24.720,0:17:29.039
of them and
0:17:25.439,0:17:29.039
everyone would get angry at me so
0:17:31.280,0:17:34.640
what’s next uh next is have you ever
0:17:34.240,0:17:38.320
done
0:17:34.640,0:17:39.919
reviews for games that’s something that
0:17:38.320,0:17:41.120
i haven’t done yet i do have friends
0:17:39.919,0:17:43.440
that do that
0:17:41.120,0:17:45.360
um but we haven’t actually sat down and
0:17:43.440,0:17:46.000
done the reviews i’ve watched a few of
0:17:45.360,0:17:48.480
them
0:17:46.000,0:17:49.679
i can’t mention you know the names off
0:17:48.480,0:17:52.400
the top of my head
0:17:49.679,0:17:54.640
but i know that that is a lot of times
0:17:52.400,0:17:56.799
an invaluable service
0:17:54.640,0:17:57.919
to be able to see the game being played
0:17:56.799,0:18:00.480
to understand
0:17:57.919,0:18:02.559
you know what you’re getting in for um
0:18:00.480,0:18:06.160
before you make that purchase
0:18:02.559,0:18:08.160
um and let me just mention at this point
0:18:06.160,0:18:10.000
something else that people are gonna
0:18:08.160,0:18:11.120
find when they go to buy some of these
0:18:10.000,0:18:13.520
board games
0:18:11.120,0:18:15.360
the price point nowadays is a little bit
0:18:13.520,0:18:17.120
different than it used to be i think the
0:18:15.360,0:18:18.160
average right now is somewhere from the
0:18:17.120,0:18:20.320
60 to 80
0:18:18.160,0:18:21.200
range so when you’re spending that much
0:18:20.320,0:18:24.880
money
0:18:21.200,0:18:26.480
game reviews are invaluable
0:18:24.880,0:18:28.320
to be able to see if it’s something
0:18:26.480,0:18:29.919
you’re going to enjoy when you’re
0:18:28.320,0:18:31.440
investing that much money in something
0:18:29.919,0:18:32.640
new like you said madison if you
0:18:31.440,0:18:34.720
especially if you don’t like
0:18:32.640,0:18:35.919
something new you want to make sure that
0:18:34.720,0:18:36.799
it’s something that you really are going
0:18:35.919,0:18:41.600
to like
0:18:36.799,0:18:43.360
yeah absolutely definitely um
0:18:41.600,0:18:44.720
kind of going along with that question
0:18:43.360,0:18:47.440
have you ever created toys
0:18:44.720,0:18:47.440
professionally
0:18:47.520,0:18:51.919
i have that was one of the services that
0:18:50.000,0:18:54.320
we offered at the underground lair
0:18:51.919,0:18:57.200
and i had been doing it you know in a
0:18:54.320,0:18:59.760
much more amateur sense
0:18:57.200,0:19:00.880
for years leading up to that um i would
0:18:59.760,0:19:04.400
do it for friends
0:19:00.880,0:19:05.200
who would be cleaning out a relative’s
0:19:04.400,0:19:08.480
attic
0:19:05.200,0:19:10.080
or a basement or you know would be ready
0:19:08.480,0:19:10.640
to get rid of their collection and want
0:19:10.080,0:19:13.360
to know
0:19:10.640,0:19:14.000
hey do i have anything here that i can
0:19:13.360,0:19:17.120
you know
0:19:14.000,0:19:18.559
maybe make some money on um and
0:19:17.120,0:19:20.720
and that’s something that i’ve always
0:19:18.559,0:19:22.400
been up on i know
0:19:20.720,0:19:24.880
you know the grading system of a lot of
0:19:22.400,0:19:26.160
the board games and comic books and
0:19:24.880,0:19:28.080
action figures
0:19:26.160,0:19:30.880
so it was a service that we definitely
0:19:28.080,0:19:34.559
wanted to offer at the underground lair
0:19:30.880,0:19:38.000
okay um our last question we have
0:19:34.559,0:19:40.720
is do you do game and toy shows if so
0:19:38.000,0:19:41.600
is the champ is the choice show for
0:19:40.720,0:19:44.320
collect
0:19:41.600,0:19:45.760
what if so what is the choice show for
0:19:44.320,0:19:48.880
collectors to go
0:19:45.760,0:19:51.520
to in the area
0:19:48.880,0:19:52.720
great question and there are we are
0:19:51.520,0:19:55.679
really lucky
0:19:52.720,0:19:56.160
in that we have a couple of premier toy
0:19:55.679,0:19:59.360
shows
0:19:56.160,0:20:02.480
in our area um some of my favorites
0:19:59.360,0:20:04.320
um and again we’re we’re gonna have to
0:20:02.480,0:20:06.080
talk about this from outside of a cove
0:20:04.320,0:20:08.320
situation you know if it was a normal
0:20:06.080,0:20:08.799
year regular you know events being
0:20:08.320,0:20:10.240
planned
0:20:08.799,0:20:11.919
these would be the places that you would
0:20:10.240,0:20:14.080
want to hit
0:20:11.919,0:20:14.960
one of the first ones that i always go
0:20:14.080,0:20:18.960
to
0:20:14.960,0:20:21.520
is the allentown ag hall toy show
0:20:18.960,0:20:22.480
which is the first saturday of every
0:20:21.520,0:20:26.559
november
0:20:22.480,0:20:28.880
and it’s a mixture of antiques
0:20:26.559,0:20:30.400
up to current day you know action
0:20:28.880,0:20:32.799
figures and board games
0:20:30.400,0:20:34.320
it’s relatively inexpensive to get into
0:20:32.799,0:20:36.080
i think it was only like five bucks or
0:20:34.320,0:20:39.039
seven bucks to walk in
0:20:36.080,0:20:39.600
and they just have aisles and aisles of
0:20:39.039,0:20:41.440
really
0:20:39.600,0:20:42.960
fun vintage stuff that you might not see
0:20:41.440,0:20:45.840
anywhere else
0:20:42.960,0:20:46.720
uh the other one was um the lehigh
0:20:45.840,0:20:48.559
valley comic con
0:20:46.720,0:20:49.840
is also in allentown there you’ll see a
0:20:48.559,0:20:52.480
good mix of comic books
0:20:49.840,0:20:53.840
board games action figures a little bit
0:20:52.480,0:20:57.280
of everything
0:20:53.840,0:20:59.200
uh there’s zolokon in warminster pa
0:20:57.280,0:21:01.200
uh which is the other name for the fuge
0:20:59.200,0:21:04.480
joe yes uh
0:21:01.200,0:21:07.919
again a fabulous show in
0:21:04.480,0:21:11.840
just a fantastic sci-fi
0:21:07.919,0:21:14.159
realistic um you know it walks that line
0:21:11.840,0:21:14.799
between you know fantasy and reality
0:21:14.159,0:21:19.840
that
0:21:14.799,0:21:19.840
just adds to that ambiance of being
0:21:21.360,0:21:30.480
that um the other one was retro con
0:21:26.320,0:21:32.880
in um oaks pa yeah
0:21:30.480,0:21:34.720
and then the toy con in new jersey at
0:21:32.880,0:21:36.400
atlantic city
0:21:34.720,0:21:38.320
that one i think we’ve never been to
0:21:36.400,0:21:40.960
that one
0:21:38.320,0:21:41.520
that’s that’s a really big one joe um
0:21:40.960,0:21:44.960
that’s
0:21:41.520,0:21:46.640
uh again it’s kind of like a good mix of
0:21:44.960,0:21:48.240
antiques and new stuff but it’s much
0:21:46.640,0:21:51.360
more of the older stuff
0:21:48.240,0:21:54.720
and in much more quantities right
0:21:51.360,0:21:56.799
so on that on that note um
0:21:54.720,0:21:58.799
what about the comic cons you know we’ve
0:21:56.799,0:21:59.280
get we get wizard world in the area we
0:21:58.799,0:22:02.080
get
0:21:59.280,0:22:04.000
uh new york comic-con are these some of
0:22:02.080,0:22:05.679
the premier shows yeah
0:22:04.000,0:22:07.919
are these some place that a collector
0:22:05.679,0:22:10.559
would go or are they more contemporary
0:22:07.919,0:22:12.159
vendors that you have there you’re gonna
0:22:10.559,0:22:13.360
have more contemporary vendors you’re
0:22:12.159,0:22:14.320
gonna have people that know what they’re
0:22:13.360,0:22:16.240
doing
0:22:14.320,0:22:18.720
um you’re not gonna find as many
0:22:16.240,0:22:21.360
bargains but
0:22:18.720,0:22:22.960
you may find that oddball item that
0:22:21.360,0:22:24.240
you’ve been looking for that you won’t
0:22:22.960,0:22:26.480
find anywhere else because you’re
0:22:24.240,0:22:28.559
drawing people from all around the world
0:22:26.480,0:22:29.520
not just our country but from all around
0:22:28.559,0:22:31.760
the world
0:22:29.520,0:22:33.360
at some of these big shows like the new
0:22:31.760,0:22:36.000
york comic con which
0:22:33.360,0:22:38.559
has grown to the point where it’s kind
0:22:36.000,0:22:40.640
of overshadowing the san diego comic-con
0:22:38.559,0:22:42.159
which has been the premier show that
0:22:40.640,0:22:45.440
everyone’s wanted to go to for
0:22:42.159,0:22:47.600
decades uh so that’s the advantage to
0:22:45.440,0:22:50.080
going to one of those big major shows
0:22:47.600,0:22:51.760
is you will get a cross-section of
0:22:50.080,0:22:53.360
everything from around the world and
0:22:51.760,0:22:54.000
dealers who you might not normally see
0:22:53.360,0:22:56.720
at the smaller
0:22:54.000,0:22:58.640
venues yeah what about the convention
0:22:56.720,0:22:59.280
exclusives at these big comic-con
0:22:58.640,0:23:00.960
conventions
0:22:59.280,0:23:02.880
are they something that a collector is
0:23:00.960,0:23:06.159
that an entry point for a collector
0:23:02.880,0:23:07.760
or is that gimmicky more than a real
0:23:06.159,0:23:10.080
collectible
0:23:07.760,0:23:11.679
boy that’s that’s a tough line to walk
0:23:10.080,0:23:13.440
because
0:23:11.679,0:23:14.880
you know as well as i do being a
0:23:13.440,0:23:17.039
completist
0:23:14.880,0:23:18.960
it’s tough to pass those up because
0:23:17.039,0:23:21.200
where else are you gonna find them
0:23:18.960,0:23:22.080
uh you know when you see those con
0:23:21.200,0:23:26.799
exclusives
0:23:22.080,0:23:31.679
and i mean my desire for them is always
0:23:26.799,0:23:35.280
mixed with how cool is the item actually
0:23:31.679,0:23:39.120
uh you know i can i can
0:23:35.280,0:23:40.080
maybe let one go if it’s not necessarily
0:23:39.120,0:23:42.559
something i would
0:23:40.080,0:23:43.120
collect you know on the on the regular
0:23:42.559,0:23:45.200
uh
0:23:43.120,0:23:47.200
i’m a big spider-man fan so spider-man
0:23:45.200,0:23:50.320
is one of my my weak spots
0:23:47.200,0:23:52.240
so i i do like spider-man villains and
0:23:50.320,0:23:54.400
you know characters but if you’re gonna
0:23:52.240,0:23:54.960
give me like the fifth jay jonah jameson
0:23:54.400,0:23:56.799
figure
0:23:54.960,0:23:59.279
as a con exclusive i’m probably gonna
0:23:56.799,0:24:00.559
pass right right
0:23:59.279,0:24:02.400
well that was all we have for this
0:24:00.559,0:24:05.279
segment stay with us we’ll be back
0:24:02.400,0:24:06.640
in a minute and talk about what the
0:24:05.279,0:24:09.190
importance of gaming
0:24:06.640,0:24:15.829
is for teens
0:24:09.190,0:24:15.829
[Music]
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for over seven years the second sith
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empire has been the premier community
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guild
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in the online game star wars the old
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republic
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with hundreds of friendly and helpful
0:24:31.279,0:24:36.480
active members
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a weekly schedule of nightly events
0:24:36.480,0:24:40.320
annual guild meet greets with an active
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community
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both on the web and on discord
0:24:44.080,0:24:48.480
the second civ empire is more than your
0:24:46.559,0:24:52.240
typical gaming group
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we’re family join us on the star forge
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server
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for nightly events such as operations
0:24:56.559,0:25:01.760
flash points world boss hunts star wars
0:25:00.559,0:25:05.120
trivia
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guild lottery and much more
0:25:05.120,0:25:14.390
notice on the web today just watching
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star wars http://www.the2ndsithempire.com
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[Music]
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welcome back to insights into teens this
0:25:22.559,0:25:27.919
is episode 100
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fun and games with dan so games have an
0:25:27.919,0:25:32.559
important part in our lives
0:25:29.679,0:25:34.000
they they bring the family together they
0:25:32.559,0:25:35.039
bring the friends together like dan had
0:25:34.000,0:25:38.400
mentioned
0:25:35.039,0:25:41.039
they give us some some camaraderie
0:25:38.400,0:25:42.799
and and you can even learn from games to
0:25:41.039,0:25:44.880
a certain extent
0:25:42.799,0:25:46.320
so we had you had gone out and done some
0:25:44.880,0:25:47.760
research on this
0:25:46.320,0:25:50.240
why don’t you tell us about what your
0:25:47.760,0:25:54.159
findings were in your research
0:25:50.240,0:25:57.159
okay so um this research comes
0:25:54.159,0:25:58.960
from a site that we haven’t used called
0:25:57.159,0:26:02.320
yourmom.com
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uh i’m sorry
0:26:02.320,0:26:05.919
i’m sorry i had to get that out it
0:26:05.360,0:26:09.440
actually is
0:26:05.919,0:26:11.840
you are mom dot com not your mom
0:26:09.440,0:26:11.840
but okay
0:26:14.640,0:26:20.960
sorry um this is the fun in gaines
0:26:18.880,0:26:25.039
podcast so that’s okay
0:26:20.960,0:26:28.720
okay okay so on to the research so
0:26:25.039,0:26:30.960
games are games are key
0:26:28.720,0:26:33.039
to the person to the personal
0:26:30.960,0:26:35.200
development of youth during adolescence
0:26:33.039,0:26:37.039
and all for a number of benefits
0:26:35.200,0:26:38.480
playing games allows young people to
0:26:37.039,0:26:40.559
learn and have fun
0:26:38.480,0:26:41.679
games can also be used as a means of
0:26:40.559,0:26:45.679
distraction and
0:26:41.679,0:26:46.880
personal growth the most popular games
0:26:45.679,0:26:49.840
for teens are those
0:26:46.880,0:26:52.000
that provide challenges to the mind some
0:26:49.840,0:26:55.520
examples are strategy games puzzle
0:26:52.000,0:26:57.919
games like tetris candy crush
0:26:55.520,0:26:59.120
to zoom to zoom board games like
0:26:57.919,0:27:01.440
monopoly clue
0:26:59.120,0:27:02.640
and the game of life and word games
0:27:01.440,0:27:06.159
likes categories
0:27:02.640,0:27:08.960
scrabble words with friends
0:27:06.159,0:27:08.960
and boggle
0:27:09.200,0:27:16.559
um games are are truly a privileged
0:27:13.520,0:27:18.159
tool that allows for the the development
0:27:16.559,0:27:19.919
of a positive attitude that can
0:27:18.159,0:27:20.960
accompany teens for the rest of their
0:27:19.919,0:27:24.559
lives
0:27:20.960,0:27:27.919
playing games combines combines pleasure
0:27:24.559,0:27:32.000
participation creativity and experience
0:27:27.919,0:27:33.919
so damn would you agree that
0:27:32.000,0:27:36.399
these benefits or benefits that you can
0:27:33.919,0:27:39.600
get from board games
0:27:36.399,0:27:43.200
absolutely um along with that
0:27:39.600,0:27:44.480
i think um just the idea of
0:27:43.200,0:27:46.640
some of these games where you’re
0:27:44.480,0:27:50.159
utilizing strategy you have to use
0:27:46.640,0:27:53.360
logic and forethought all of those are
0:27:50.159,0:27:56.399
great skills for teens to have
0:27:53.360,0:27:57.760
um going further into their life just
0:27:56.399,0:28:00.000
with life lessons
0:27:57.760,0:28:02.320
it keep teaches you creative thinking
0:28:00.000,0:28:04.080
and abstract thinking um
0:28:02.320,0:28:05.919
as well as sometimes teaching you
0:28:04.080,0:28:08.880
history and basics like
0:28:05.919,0:28:10.080
finance and monopoly yeah that’s a very
0:28:08.880,0:28:12.559
good point
0:28:10.080,0:28:13.360
now the the research that was done
0:28:12.559,0:28:16.080
suggests
0:28:13.360,0:28:16.960
that teens want games that give them a
0:28:16.080,0:28:19.360
challenge
0:28:16.960,0:28:21.679
do you find that to be the case in your
0:28:19.360,0:28:24.000
experience
0:28:21.679,0:28:25.039
oh yeah yeah because if something’s too
0:28:24.000,0:28:28.240
easy
0:28:25.039,0:28:29.600
you’re going to get bored with it and
0:28:28.240,0:28:32.080
how long is that interest going to be
0:28:29.600,0:28:34.000
held uh the game has to be challenging
0:28:32.080,0:28:36.480
it has to push you a little bit
0:28:34.000,0:28:37.679
has to move you out of your comfort zone
0:28:36.480,0:28:39.200
um
0:28:37.679,0:28:41.840
and i think those are really important
0:28:39.200,0:28:44.000
elements for any successful board game
0:28:41.840,0:28:45.840
are besides the ones that we listed here
0:28:44.000,0:28:48.240
are there any other games
0:28:45.840,0:28:50.480
that you’re familiar with at this time
0:28:48.240,0:28:51.600
that you think would be ideal games that
0:28:50.480,0:28:54.399
you would suggest for
0:28:51.600,0:28:56.799
teens that provide that level of
0:28:54.399,0:28:58.960
challenge combined with that
0:28:56.799,0:29:01.840
that additional benefit of an
0:28:58.960,0:29:04.159
educational experience
0:29:01.840,0:29:05.120
there’s a lot of really good um
0:29:04.159,0:29:08.320
historical
0:29:05.120,0:29:10.000
battle games out there right now some of
0:29:08.320,0:29:11.200
which have lasted for a couple of
0:29:10.000,0:29:13.760
decades
0:29:11.200,0:29:15.600
there was a series called the game
0:29:13.760,0:29:16.720
master series by milton bradley which is
0:29:15.600,0:29:19.440
one of the first ones that
0:29:16.720,0:29:20.720
i started with and that was back in the
0:29:19.440,0:29:23.919
80s and that was
0:29:20.720,0:29:25.440
you know our early gaming days but as
0:29:23.919,0:29:27.039
you can probably see in the background
0:29:25.440,0:29:29.679
there we have uh
0:29:27.039,0:29:30.640
access allies which is the world war ii
0:29:29.679,0:29:32.960
version
0:29:30.640,0:29:35.760
which helps you recreate some of the
0:29:32.960,0:29:38.880
famous battle scenarios of that era
0:29:35.760,0:29:40.240
um but there’s also ones that were civil
0:29:38.880,0:29:42.240
war oriented
0:29:40.240,0:29:44.080
there were revolutionary war oriented
0:29:42.240,0:29:47.440
ones that teach about history
0:29:44.080,0:29:50.000
uh and again we can go back to just
0:29:47.440,0:29:51.840
things like word building and things
0:29:50.000,0:29:54.000
like scrabble and
0:29:51.840,0:29:55.120
as as madison mentioned boggle in some
0:29:54.000,0:29:57.840
of those games that
0:29:55.120,0:29:59.200
teach you know basic spelling
0:29:57.840,0:30:02.720
memorization
0:29:59.200,0:30:06.159
mind strength uh all very important for
0:30:02.720,0:30:09.039
a young mind that’s growing and learning
0:30:06.159,0:30:09.840
so do you think it’s possible that you
0:30:09.039,0:30:12.640
can play
0:30:09.840,0:30:12.640
too many games
0:30:13.440,0:30:17.039
well i think like anything moderation is
0:30:15.760,0:30:19.039
the key um
0:30:17.039,0:30:20.399
i feel the same way about video games
0:30:19.039,0:30:22.240
i’ve never felt
0:30:20.399,0:30:24.080
negatively about video games but if
0:30:22.240,0:30:25.760
you’re spending
0:30:24.080,0:30:27.919
more time on that than you are in the
0:30:25.760,0:30:28.960
rest of your life you’ve got to create a
0:30:27.919,0:30:31.760
balance
0:30:28.960,0:30:33.200
and the same thing with board games um
0:30:31.760,0:30:36.240
you know you want to
0:30:33.200,0:30:39.360
have moderation and you know not
0:30:36.240,0:30:39.679
dedicate hours and hours out of a day to
0:30:39.360,0:30:42.559
it
0:30:39.679,0:30:43.679
but i have in the past with some of
0:30:42.559,0:30:45.360
these other games
0:30:43.679,0:30:47.279
some of them can last you know four or
0:30:45.360,0:30:49.520
five hours
0:30:47.279,0:30:50.720
but are you gonna do it every night
0:30:49.520,0:30:53.279
because that would be
0:30:50.720,0:30:55.679
you know pushing it yeah that that that
0:30:53.279,0:30:58.240
could be dangerous i do remember
0:30:55.679,0:31:01.279
uh our six and eight hour star wars
0:30:58.240,0:31:01.279
miniature weekend
0:31:03.360,0:31:06.480
that’s not something you would want to
0:31:05.360,0:31:08.960
have as your
0:31:06.480,0:31:10.399
life going you know every night no no
0:31:08.960,0:31:11.919
not unless you’re getting paid to do it
0:31:10.399,0:31:15.039
as a play tester or something
0:31:11.919,0:31:16.559
right right um so let’s you know we
0:31:15.039,0:31:19.840
talked about a couple of
0:31:16.559,0:31:23.440
mostly games that are
0:31:19.840,0:31:25.840
group involved games um but there’s
0:31:23.440,0:31:27.679
there’s benefits to individual games too
0:31:25.840,0:31:28.880
especially given the current environment
0:31:27.679,0:31:30.080
that we’re in where we can’t all get
0:31:28.880,0:31:31.840
together
0:31:30.080,0:31:33.519
are there any games out there that you
0:31:31.840,0:31:34.880
could suggest to somebody who doesn’t
0:31:33.519,0:31:37.440
have that advantage of
0:31:34.880,0:31:38.880
of getting together with someone i’m
0:31:37.440,0:31:40.240
really glad you brought that up because
0:31:38.880,0:31:41.600
that was going to be a point that i was
0:31:40.240,0:31:42.320
going to bring up at the end of this as
0:31:41.600,0:31:45.360
well
0:31:42.320,0:31:47.679
uh with the current environment it’s
0:31:45.360,0:31:49.039
very difficult to have game nights and
0:31:47.679,0:31:49.919
to be able to get together with my
0:31:49.039,0:31:52.399
friends and i’m sure
0:31:49.919,0:31:53.519
everyone is experiencing the same thing
0:31:52.399,0:31:56.320
so
0:31:53.519,0:31:59.200
what do you do if you want to continue
0:31:56.320,0:32:01.039
to play a board game
0:31:59.200,0:32:02.880
what can you do on your own are there
0:32:01.039,0:32:05.600
solo board games out there and yes
0:32:02.880,0:32:06.640
there are uh some of the ones that i was
0:32:05.600,0:32:10.000
able to find
0:32:06.640,0:32:11.120
were um things like the escape the room
0:32:10.000,0:32:14.080
series
0:32:11.120,0:32:15.279
uh it’s not easy to do those on your own
0:32:14.080,0:32:17.360
but you can
0:32:15.279,0:32:19.200
um there’s another great series called
0:32:17.360,0:32:22.880
choose your own adventure
0:32:19.200,0:32:23.360
which is by z man and those are based on
0:32:22.880,0:32:25.600
those
0:32:23.360,0:32:27.039
books that you and i probably remember
0:32:25.600,0:32:28.559
more than anybody joe
0:32:27.039,0:32:30.240
where you would page through the book
0:32:28.559,0:32:32.080
and you’re reading it and at the bottom
0:32:30.240,0:32:34.080
it would give you a choice
0:32:32.080,0:32:36.159
of what page you would go to if you
0:32:34.080,0:32:37.360
chose this and what page you would go to
0:32:36.159,0:32:39.760
if you chose that
0:32:37.360,0:32:40.880
so they’ve created solo games in that
0:32:39.760,0:32:42.399
fashion
0:32:40.880,0:32:45.120
and i did want to mention one other
0:32:42.399,0:32:45.840
thing that i discovered this past year
0:32:45.120,0:32:48.880
because
0:32:45.840,0:32:49.200
again i really wanted to find something
0:32:48.880,0:32:52.640
that
0:32:49.200,0:32:55.440
i could do on my own um
0:32:52.640,0:32:56.720
without having to do you know a
0:32:55.440,0:33:00.240
get-together
0:32:56.720,0:33:01.679
and i found on kickstarter
0:33:00.240,0:33:03.360
and i’m very excited about this it’s
0:33:01.679,0:33:06.880
going to be coming out in may
0:33:03.360,0:33:09.519
a game called final girl where you
0:33:06.880,0:33:10.960
play against the game a solo it’s a solo
0:33:09.519,0:33:13.039
version of a game
0:33:10.960,0:33:14.080
where you are the final girl in a horror
0:33:13.039,0:33:16.080
movie
0:33:14.080,0:33:17.120
and there are different scenarios with
0:33:16.080,0:33:20.799
different types
0:33:17.120,0:33:23.519
of uh you know
0:33:20.799,0:33:25.200
axe murderers and horror characters that
0:33:23.519,0:33:26.320
are very similar to like your freddy
0:33:25.200,0:33:28.720
krueger’s and
0:33:26.320,0:33:31.279
jason’s and things like that and you
0:33:28.720,0:33:34.399
have your final girl who’s trying to
0:33:31.279,0:33:35.600
rescue people around the lake or around
0:33:34.399,0:33:38.640
the house
0:33:35.600,0:33:39.360
while being chased by this maniac and
0:33:38.640,0:33:41.760
it’s you
0:33:39.360,0:33:42.640
against the clock and against this
0:33:41.760,0:33:44.880
character
0:33:42.640,0:33:45.840
and it’s a solo adventure and it sounds
0:33:44.880,0:33:48.880
like it’s going to be
0:33:45.840,0:33:51.279
fantastic um and that’s coming out
0:33:48.880,0:33:53.840
may of this year well that’s very cool
0:33:51.279,0:33:57.039
that does that sounds very interesting
0:33:53.840,0:33:59.279
so i know we’ve done um
0:33:57.039,0:34:01.279
zoom calls a lot to to keep the family
0:33:59.279,0:34:02.320
together special occasions stuff like
0:34:01.279,0:34:06.080
that
0:34:02.320,0:34:08.800
and you know whenever we get together
0:34:06.080,0:34:10.720
as a family we always play a game you
0:34:08.800,0:34:12.960
know thanks to you
0:34:10.720,0:34:15.440
pretty much you’ve always got games with
0:34:12.960,0:34:18.800
you whenever we get together
0:34:15.440,0:34:19.359
so on zoom there have been some options
0:34:18.800,0:34:22.159
that we’ve
0:34:19.359,0:34:24.240
been able to translate that into another
0:34:22.159,0:34:26.480
entertaining experience do you have any
0:34:24.240,0:34:26.879
suggestions like that for people who
0:34:26.480,0:34:28.720
can’t
0:34:26.879,0:34:30.639
get together but still want to play
0:34:28.720,0:34:32.639
group games like that
0:34:30.639,0:34:34.000
where they can sort of capture some of
0:34:32.639,0:34:37.040
that magic any any
0:34:34.000,0:34:37.040
suggestions on that
0:34:37.520,0:34:40.480
i’m trying to think of what some of the
0:34:38.960,0:34:41.119
ones where i think there’s one that was
0:34:40.480,0:34:42.800
called
0:34:41.119,0:34:46.079
and and forgive me if i get this wrong
0:34:42.800,0:34:46.079
jack box yes
0:34:46.839,0:34:51.040
um
0:34:48.720,0:34:52.320
they they don’t just have one type of
0:34:51.040,0:34:55.440
game and it’s like
0:34:52.320,0:34:58.480
a multiplayer uh online
0:34:55.440,0:35:00.640
you know participation but
0:34:58.480,0:35:02.640
there’s a whole variety of different
0:35:00.640,0:35:05.599
games that you can choose from
0:35:02.640,0:35:07.200
and then you accumulate points by either
0:35:05.599,0:35:08.320
winning or succeeding in each one of
0:35:07.200,0:35:09.760
those games
0:35:08.320,0:35:11.599
and then you get to do something at the
0:35:09.760,0:35:12.079
end with those accumulated points and
0:35:11.599,0:35:15.040
it’s just
0:35:12.079,0:35:16.880
that’s been a blast we’ve done that
0:35:15.040,0:35:19.359
already
0:35:16.880,0:35:20.880
sitting in the same room on our phones
0:35:19.359,0:35:21.440
so you could easily do it from a
0:35:20.880,0:35:24.720
distance
0:35:21.440,0:35:26.000
remotely i i also heard this vicious
0:35:24.720,0:35:28.320
rumor that you
0:35:26.000,0:35:31.760
uh you play words with friends with
0:35:28.320,0:35:34.960
someone from our house too
0:35:31.760,0:35:38.400
those rumors can be confirmed um i
0:35:34.960,0:35:40.480
i am rather fond of that uh there
0:35:38.400,0:35:41.760
are a handful of people that i do play
0:35:40.480,0:35:44.400
with that with
0:35:41.760,0:35:44.880
um and i have found that to be a lot of
0:35:44.400,0:35:47.359
fun
0:35:44.880,0:35:48.640
and it takes me back to my scrabble
0:35:47.359,0:35:51.599
playing days
0:35:48.640,0:35:52.079
and you know it’s it can be rough it can
0:35:51.599,0:35:54.160
be
0:35:52.079,0:35:55.280
brutal i’ve taken some really hard
0:35:54.160,0:35:57.520
losses
0:35:55.280,0:35:58.480
um some humiliating losses some would
0:35:57.520,0:36:01.440
say so
0:35:58.480,0:36:03.520
i’ve learned i’ve gotten better but it’s
0:36:01.440,0:36:05.839
it’s a lot of fun i i enjoy it
0:36:03.520,0:36:07.359
that’s great so we’re going to take a
0:36:05.839,0:36:10.800
quick break we’re going to come back
0:36:07.359,0:36:13.119
and we’re going to do a deep dive on uh
0:36:10.800,0:36:14.160
dan and his history and a little bit
0:36:13.119,0:36:17.680
more detail
0:36:14.160,0:36:26.820
on what his gaming uh prowess
0:36:17.680,0:36:29.440
really reflects so we’ll be right back
0:36:26.820,0:36:31.839
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welcome back to insights into teens
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we’re talking fun
0:37:34.480,0:37:40.400
and games with dan so
0:37:37.760,0:37:42.640
deep dive on dan here i guess the first
0:37:40.400,0:37:44.640
question i have to ask is how old were
0:37:42.640,0:37:47.359
you when you started getting into gaming
0:37:44.640,0:37:47.359
and collecting
0:37:47.680,0:37:50.800
the actual collecting aspect of it
0:37:50.320,0:37:54.000
didn’t
0:37:50.800,0:37:57.119
happen until i reached college
0:37:54.000,0:38:00.560
and up until then i was
0:37:57.119,0:38:01.920
a very hardcore comic book and action
0:38:00.560,0:38:04.880
figure collector
0:38:01.920,0:38:05.920
and had an extensive collection of the
0:38:04.880,0:38:08.240
marvels
0:38:05.920,0:38:09.200
dating back into the 1960s all the major
0:38:08.240,0:38:11.200
titles
0:38:09.200,0:38:12.960
and all of the action figures that had
0:38:11.200,0:38:13.520
been produced at that time and it was a
0:38:12.960,0:38:16.960
much
0:38:13.520,0:38:19.520
more meager selection during the 70s
0:38:16.960,0:38:20.720
and 80s than it is now where it is just
0:38:19.520,0:38:22.320
a plethora of
0:38:20.720,0:38:24.400
choices out there to make as far as
0:38:22.320,0:38:26.560
action figures um
0:38:24.400,0:38:27.920
but when we got to college uh we did
0:38:26.560,0:38:31.680
there were two things that
0:38:27.920,0:38:34.880
i became involved in one of them was
0:38:31.680,0:38:36.320
the wonderful world of d
0:38:34.880,0:38:38.480
which i got to play for the first time
0:38:36.320,0:38:40.320
with a group because growing up none of
0:38:38.480,0:38:42.240
my friends knew how to play
0:38:40.320,0:38:43.440
so it’s very difficult to learn to play
0:38:42.240,0:38:45.680
d d on your own
0:38:43.440,0:38:47.200
when you have no one else to play with
0:38:45.680,0:38:50.000
so that was the one thing that
0:38:47.200,0:38:51.280
i kind of became involved in and then
0:38:50.000,0:38:52.720
the other one was the
0:38:51.280,0:38:55.200
like i mentioned earlier the milton
0:38:52.720,0:38:58.480
bradley game master series
0:38:55.200,0:39:01.119
which were all based on classic eras
0:38:58.480,0:39:03.119
of classic battles throughout history
0:39:01.119,0:39:05.040
they had conquest the of the empire
0:39:03.119,0:39:07.760
which was the roman empire’s
0:39:05.040,0:39:08.400
uh attempt to take over the world there
0:39:07.760,0:39:10.480
was
0:39:08.400,0:39:12.160
axis and allies which was the world war
0:39:10.480,0:39:15.440
ii version
0:39:12.160,0:39:17.520
there was shogun which was the feudal
0:39:15.440,0:39:19.599
japan version
0:39:17.520,0:39:21.680
and they had a one another one called
0:39:19.599,0:39:25.520
broadsides and boarding parties
0:39:21.680,0:39:28.400
which was a tall ship uh
0:39:25.520,0:39:29.200
sort of a pirate kind of version where
0:39:28.400,0:39:31.680
you would
0:39:29.200,0:39:32.560
chase each other around in ships on the
0:39:31.680,0:39:33.920
board
0:39:32.560,0:39:35.920
and you would get to a point where you
0:39:33.920,0:39:37.520
would do a broadsides with each other if
0:39:35.920,0:39:39.599
you were next to each other and then
0:39:37.520,0:39:42.240
you had characters that could actually
0:39:39.599,0:39:44.320
attack each other from the ships um so
0:39:42.240,0:39:45.760
those types of military strategy games
0:39:44.320,0:39:49.599
were a big part
0:39:45.760,0:39:52.880
of my formative game playing years
0:39:49.599,0:39:54.960
very interesting so um
0:39:52.880,0:39:57.680
what games were popular when you were a
0:39:54.960,0:40:00.079
teen
0:39:57.680,0:40:00.079
um
0:40:01.359,0:40:04.880
just the classics i think when i was a
0:40:03.280,0:40:06.079
teen i was trying to go back and look at
0:40:04.880,0:40:08.160
some of the dates
0:40:06.079,0:40:10.400
so that i could be a little bit more
0:40:08.160,0:40:13.760
sure about when i was a teen
0:40:10.400,0:40:16.000
um so other than like
0:40:13.760,0:40:16.960
monopoly and scrabble and some of those
0:40:16.000,0:40:20.880
other ones
0:40:16.960,0:40:21.200
um again really what kind of caught our
0:40:20.880,0:40:23.280
eye
0:40:21.200,0:40:24.480
and what came into popularity during
0:40:23.280,0:40:26.800
that era
0:40:24.480,0:40:28.000
were games like trivial pursuit which
0:40:26.800,0:40:30.960
was absolutely
0:40:28.000,0:40:32.480
huge when i was um getting out of high
0:40:30.960,0:40:34.400
school going into college
0:40:32.480,0:40:36.160
uh the late 70s early 80s i think the
0:40:34.400,0:40:38.240
first trivia pursuit games came out
0:40:36.160,0:40:41.599
actually in the early 80s um
0:40:38.240,0:40:45.680
but those were were so huge um
0:40:41.599,0:40:48.480
games like uh scattergories and taboo
0:40:45.680,0:40:50.000
and some of those were just immensely
0:40:48.480,0:40:51.940
popular at all the parties and things
0:40:50.000,0:40:54.400
that we would go to um
0:40:51.940,0:40:56.640
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0:40:54.400,0:40:59.119
other board games i know my sisters and
0:40:56.640,0:41:02.160
i because i had two younger sisters
0:40:59.119,0:41:05.520
we would play you know life and
0:41:02.160,0:41:07.520
a game called careers which is
0:41:05.520,0:41:09.680
basically you choose an occupation and
0:41:07.520,0:41:12.000
you try to become successful at it and
0:41:09.680,0:41:12.960
it was very straightforward kind of like
0:41:12.000,0:41:16.319
a little bit
0:41:12.960,0:41:17.599
more involved than life uh but it was a
0:41:16.319,0:41:19.920
lot of fun
0:41:17.599,0:41:21.280
um and then just some of the classics
0:41:19.920,0:41:25.040
like i said like a
0:41:21.280,0:41:28.000
clue and uh monopoly and life
0:41:25.040,0:41:28.800
and some of those other ones interesting
0:41:28.000,0:41:31.920
so
0:41:28.800,0:41:36.160
what is the most bizarre but
0:41:31.920,0:41:39.839
family-friendly game that you’ve played
0:41:36.160,0:41:44.400
okay one of the ones
0:41:39.839,0:41:47.680
was the green ghost game
0:41:44.400,0:41:48.000
which came out in the 60s during a time
0:41:47.680,0:41:49.760
when
0:41:48.000,0:41:52.400
things like the monsters and the adams
0:41:49.760,0:41:54.400
family were very popular
0:41:52.400,0:41:55.440
and it was basically you played it in
0:41:54.400,0:41:58.319
the dark
0:41:55.440,0:41:59.760
the game board glowed a big green ghost
0:41:58.319,0:42:01.280
in the center of it glowed that’s what
0:41:59.760,0:42:03.280
you would spin
0:42:01.280,0:42:04.480
and then you had to go around the board
0:42:03.280,0:42:06.240
and that had
0:42:04.480,0:42:08.079
the board was raised about three or four
0:42:06.240,0:42:08.640
inches and there were boxes underneath
0:42:08.079,0:42:10.560
it
0:42:08.640,0:42:11.680
and you were in the dark and you would
0:42:10.560,0:42:14.000
have to reach in
0:42:11.680,0:42:15.280
and identify what the items were that
0:42:14.000,0:42:16.960
were in it kind of like the classic
0:42:15.280,0:42:19.040
halloween party game
0:42:16.960,0:42:20.160
uh that was a weird one there was
0:42:19.040,0:42:23.520
another one called
0:42:20.160,0:42:26.079
uh kaboom which was a way of
0:42:23.520,0:42:29.119
blowing up taking turns pumping on a
0:42:26.079,0:42:30.319
balloon that was on a dynamite shack
0:42:29.119,0:42:34.480
and you would go around the board and
0:42:30.319,0:42:37.760
try not to get blown up by the balloon
0:42:34.480,0:42:38.560
that’s funny yeah there was there were
0:42:37.760,0:42:39.920
some great ones
0:42:38.560,0:42:41.680
and then of course there was the pie in
0:42:39.920,0:42:43.280
the face one which not really a board
0:42:41.680,0:42:44.319
game but that was a very bizarre game
0:42:43.280,0:42:46.000
too where you would
0:42:44.319,0:42:47.520
take turns twisting the dials and you
0:42:46.000,0:42:48.319
would get a pie in the face if you got
0:42:47.520,0:42:50.400
it wrong
0:42:48.319,0:42:51.839
well nowadays you’d never see a game
0:42:50.400,0:42:56.160
like that now i mean
0:42:51.839,0:42:56.160
it wouldn’t pass like safety inspections
0:42:57.280,0:43:00.640
what’s our next question so was there
0:42:59.440,0:43:03.680
any
0:43:00.640,0:43:05.040
was there a particular theme of a
0:43:03.680,0:43:06.960
particular theme
0:43:05.040,0:43:09.359
of gaming or gaming type that you were
0:43:06.960,0:43:12.400
interested in
0:43:09.359,0:43:16.400
well i really liked the um
0:43:12.400,0:43:19.520
competitive uh military style games
0:43:16.400,0:43:22.480
uh games like stratego um
0:43:19.520,0:43:25.440
were a lot of fun and then we got more
0:43:22.480,0:43:27.440
involved in like battleship
0:43:25.440,0:43:28.640
then they came out with sub search which
0:43:27.440,0:43:32.319
was even better
0:43:28.640,0:43:33.520
joe if you remember star wars did a
0:43:32.319,0:43:36.560
version of that
0:43:33.520,0:43:38.319
where it was three tiers of ships yeah
0:43:36.560,0:43:40.240
and they just said it was like layers of
0:43:38.319,0:43:43.119
space instead of like underwater
0:43:40.240,0:43:45.040
yeah but such a great idea to like have
0:43:43.119,0:43:47.440
a three-dimensional like
0:43:45.040,0:43:48.640
battleship kind of game it always struck
0:43:47.440,0:43:50.319
me as though they were trying to
0:43:48.640,0:43:52.800
recapture like uh
0:43:50.319,0:43:54.400
three-dimensional chess from from star
0:43:52.800,0:43:58.160
trek with something like portrait
0:43:54.400,0:43:59.839
yeah yeah yeah absolutely so
0:43:58.160,0:44:01.680
we talk a lot about we’ve talked a lot
0:43:59.839,0:44:03.680
about classic games
0:44:01.680,0:44:05.040
are there modern games that you play now
0:44:03.680,0:44:06.000
like do you would you go out and buy a
0:44:05.040,0:44:07.599
game now
0:44:06.000,0:44:09.280
you know are they still making good
0:44:07.599,0:44:11.680
games oh they’re
0:44:09.280,0:44:12.480
they are they are making some great ones
0:44:11.680,0:44:14.079
um
0:44:12.480,0:44:16.160
what besides the ones that we mentioned
0:44:14.079,0:44:18.560
already uh there’s a couple that i do
0:44:16.160,0:44:21.200
want to give like honorable mentions to
0:44:18.560,0:44:22.000
and i i feel really bad because i don’t
0:44:21.200,0:44:24.960
have one of these
0:44:22.000,0:44:26.640
at home but it’s one that we’ve played
0:44:24.960,0:44:28.000
all the time that we ran the underground
0:44:26.640,0:44:28.960
layer and now we have a couple of
0:44:28.000,0:44:32.000
friends that have it
0:44:28.960,0:44:35.200
it’s a game called elfin land
0:44:32.000,0:44:36.000
um it’s a semi-cooperative game where
0:44:35.200,0:44:37.839
you are a young
0:44:36.000,0:44:39.680
elf going out into the world and
0:44:37.839,0:44:41.440
traveling and trying to visit as many
0:44:39.680,0:44:44.720
towns as you can
0:44:41.440,0:44:47.440
and it’s a lot trickier than it sounds
0:44:44.720,0:44:47.440
because you have
0:44:48.319,0:44:52.319
you to travel so it’s it’s a really
0:44:50.800,0:44:54.560
interesting concept
0:44:52.319,0:44:56.240
another game that we’ve enjoyed recently
0:44:54.560,0:44:58.640
was the castle panic
0:44:56.240,0:45:00.079
series which is now they also have a
0:44:58.640,0:45:02.800
star trek panic
0:45:00.079,0:45:05.280
um they have uh you know a bunch of
0:45:02.800,0:45:08.640
other ones like munchkin panic
0:45:05.280,0:45:10.880
uh and it’s uh again a semi-cooperative
0:45:08.640,0:45:13.839
game which we seem to be drawn to
0:45:10.880,0:45:15.200
uh and you and your teammates try to
0:45:13.839,0:45:17.359
prevent
0:45:15.200,0:45:18.720
in the case of castle panic goblins and
0:45:17.359,0:45:19.760
orcs and things from destroying your
0:45:18.720,0:45:22.079
castle
0:45:19.760,0:45:24.480
in the star trek sense you prevent the
0:45:22.079,0:45:26.480
romulans and klingons from attacking you
0:45:24.480,0:45:28.079
um so that’s a really fun one that’s a
0:45:26.480,0:45:30.160
relatively new one that’s only been like
0:45:28.079,0:45:32.560
the last 10 years that’s been out
0:45:30.160,0:45:33.599
uh there’s another one called formula d
0:45:32.560,0:45:37.440
racing
0:45:33.599,0:45:40.079
which is a huge game board
0:45:37.440,0:45:41.760
with race cars on it and as you roll
0:45:40.079,0:45:44.480
different sizes of dice
0:45:41.760,0:45:46.079
depending on what gear your car is in
0:45:44.480,0:45:47.599
and you have to change your dice
0:45:46.079,0:45:49.520
when you come around a corner to slow
0:45:47.599,0:45:51.440
down um that’s been
0:45:49.520,0:45:53.200
loads of fun we have a lot of i am
0:45:51.440,0:45:56.240
infamous for crashing my car
0:45:53.200,0:45:58.400
more times than not and uh i don’t win
0:45:56.240,0:46:01.040
very often
0:45:58.400,0:46:03.760
and and knowing you that must be painful
0:46:01.040,0:46:03.760
that you don’t win
0:46:04.079,0:46:09.520
no comment i’m a gracious loser
0:46:11.839,0:46:17.520
okay so our next question is what do you
0:46:14.319,0:46:17.520
think makes a good game
0:46:17.920,0:46:22.240
well i think we touched upon some of
0:46:19.680,0:46:24.640
that earlier in that
0:46:22.240,0:46:26.240
you need to have a challenge and you
0:46:24.640,0:46:28.319
need to push your limits a little bit
0:46:26.240,0:46:31.520
and make it a little bit exciting
0:46:28.319,0:46:34.000
there has to be um
0:46:31.520,0:46:35.680
some kind of either reward that you’re
0:46:34.000,0:46:38.079
striving for
0:46:35.680,0:46:40.079
either cooperatively or individually and
0:46:38.079,0:46:42.800
there has to be some kind of
0:46:40.079,0:46:43.520
threat or time or things moving against
0:46:42.800,0:46:46.640
you
0:46:43.520,0:46:50.240
that’s going to cause you to have to act
0:46:46.640,0:46:51.599
and i think that represents a lot of
0:46:50.240,0:46:54.880
what we have going on in life
0:46:51.599,0:46:58.400
too so isn’t that the truth so
0:46:54.880,0:47:01.440
based on those qualities have you ever
0:46:58.400,0:47:01.440
made your own game
0:47:01.760,0:47:05.040
you know it’s going to surprise you but
0:47:03.040,0:47:05.920
i have not that’s something that i
0:47:05.040,0:47:09.119
haven’t done
0:47:05.920,0:47:12.240
i have helped some friends with games
0:47:09.119,0:47:15.200
um in design
0:47:12.240,0:47:16.160
level stuff where they needed like
0:47:15.200,0:47:18.160
flavor text
0:47:16.160,0:47:19.839
or character backgrounds and things like
0:47:18.160,0:47:22.559
that um
0:47:19.839,0:47:24.079
we did a whole series uh with a friend
0:47:22.559,0:47:26.400
of mine for a sci-fi
0:47:24.079,0:47:27.760
uh game that he hasn’t been able to
0:47:26.400,0:47:29.040
obtain rights to yet so i don’t really
0:47:27.760,0:47:31.040
want to talk about it
0:47:29.040,0:47:32.400
but each one of the individual
0:47:31.040,0:47:35.359
characters in the game that
0:47:32.400,0:47:37.119
popped up on a card had a backstory and
0:47:35.359,0:47:40.720
a reason why they were
0:47:37.119,0:47:41.680
criminals let’s say and had to
0:47:40.720,0:47:45.520
participate
0:47:41.680,0:47:45.520
in this competition
0:47:45.760,0:47:49.040
but it was uh it’s a it was a fun
0:47:48.079,0:47:51.119
experience
0:47:49.040,0:47:52.960
um and i i would like to do more of it
0:47:51.119,0:47:55.280
but probably from a writing
0:47:52.960,0:47:56.160
standpoint as opposed to design sure
0:47:55.280,0:47:58.800
sure
0:47:56.160,0:47:59.280
that makes sense um so are there any
0:47:58.800,0:48:06.880
games
0:47:59.280,0:48:10.079
you think are underrated
0:48:06.880,0:48:13.520
that’s a tough one there are
0:48:10.079,0:48:15.680
um a lot of games that we’ve really
0:48:13.520,0:48:17.359
loved at the underground layer that
0:48:15.680,0:48:19.520
we’ve played
0:48:17.359,0:48:21.200
multiple times and i i will say that one
0:48:19.520,0:48:22.079
of the ones that we really fell in love
0:48:21.200,0:48:25.599
with
0:48:22.079,0:48:26.240
was roll for it um it’s such an easy
0:48:25.599,0:48:29.680
game
0:48:26.240,0:48:31.760
to learn and the box that it comes in
0:48:29.680,0:48:34.880
you could use it as a travel game
0:48:31.760,0:48:36.000
um it was a great game that we used to
0:48:34.880,0:48:38.960
segue
0:48:36.000,0:48:41.040
into the larger game like while we were
0:48:38.960,0:48:43.680
waiting for everyone to show up
0:48:41.040,0:48:45.119
on a game night you could have like two
0:48:43.680,0:48:48.559
or three or four people
0:48:45.119,0:48:49.920
play roll for it and they would be able
0:48:48.559,0:48:51.280
to get a couple of games in before
0:48:49.920,0:48:52.559
someone else would even show up for the
0:48:51.280,0:48:55.119
bigger game
0:48:52.559,0:48:56.400
um whereas something like munchkin
0:48:55.119,0:48:58.720
that’s that’s an evening
0:48:56.400,0:48:59.520
and you’re gonna be there for a while so
0:48:58.720,0:49:03.040
buckle up
0:48:59.520,0:49:03.599
that is true absolutely true so if you
0:49:03.040,0:49:05.520
had
0:49:03.599,0:49:06.880
to to pick what is your gaming
0:49:05.520,0:49:09.760
preference as far as
0:49:06.880,0:49:11.200
type of game are you a card gamer a
0:49:09.760,0:49:14.160
board gamer do you like
0:49:11.200,0:49:15.280
team based stuff dice games miniatures
0:49:14.160,0:49:18.480
role-playing
0:49:15.280,0:49:20.079
what’s your number one pick
0:49:18.480,0:49:21.839
well that’s tough joke you know we’ve
0:49:20.079,0:49:24.160
run the gamut over the years
0:49:21.839,0:49:25.280
yeah and and it does seem to kind of go
0:49:24.160,0:49:28.559
in trends i mean
0:49:25.280,0:49:29.040
we were doing the um the miniatures
0:49:28.559,0:49:31.920
games
0:49:29.040,0:49:34.720
for a while there and were really heavy
0:49:31.920,0:49:37.040
into it and and by that same token
0:49:34.720,0:49:38.240
i played magic the gathering for many
0:49:37.040,0:49:41.200
years too and my
0:49:38.240,0:49:42.839
friends and i were really into that and
0:49:41.200,0:49:45.920
uh
0:49:42.839,0:49:47.760
what tells us when we
0:49:45.920,0:49:49.920
need to change gears and go to a
0:49:47.760,0:49:53.200
different you know type of game or
0:49:49.920,0:49:55.599
or entertainment um
0:49:53.200,0:49:56.720
i used to do video games too but i just
0:49:55.599,0:49:59.359
don’t have time
0:49:56.720,0:50:00.720
as much time for that and in video games
0:49:59.359,0:50:02.559
i i know that
0:50:00.720,0:50:04.000
you know we can do like multiplayer
0:50:02.559,0:50:05.119
online stuff now
0:50:04.000,0:50:06.800
but there’s something about sitting
0:50:05.119,0:50:08.400
around a table at a board game that
0:50:06.800,0:50:11.440
that’s a little bit different than
0:50:08.400,0:50:12.240
when you’re behind a monitor and i
0:50:11.440,0:50:14.800
really like
0:50:12.240,0:50:16.640
you know laughing with the friends and
0:50:14.800,0:50:19.359
exchanging jokes and
0:50:16.640,0:50:21.280
and making fun of their moves and and
0:50:19.359,0:50:24.640
stuff like that and
0:50:21.280,0:50:27.839
uh i forgot what the question was what
0:50:24.640,0:50:27.839
was the question
0:50:28.079,0:50:31.839
what type of game would you pick if you
0:50:30.000,0:50:34.800
could pick one
0:50:31.839,0:50:34.800
all right um
0:50:35.040,0:50:40.880
i would say would probably be one of the
0:50:38.240,0:50:41.359
like military strategy combat games
0:50:40.880,0:50:42.880
we’ve
0:50:41.359,0:50:45.119
really had a lot of fun with them over
0:50:42.880,0:50:47.359
the years um
0:50:45.119,0:50:49.200
it’s a step up from risk and i know we
0:50:47.359,0:50:51.040
didn’t talk about that yet but that’s
0:50:49.200,0:50:54.880
not one of my favorite games
0:50:51.040,0:50:56.400
um but i think the idea that
0:50:54.880,0:50:58.000
some of these game companies took it to
0:50:56.400,0:51:00.800
the next level
0:50:58.000,0:51:02.160
and really made them interesting and
0:51:00.800,0:51:04.000
involved
0:51:02.160,0:51:05.119
and gave you some great pieces to move
0:51:04.000,0:51:07.040
around the board because who doesn’t
0:51:05.119,0:51:10.079
love little plastic pieces
0:51:07.040,0:51:10.559
um it really changed changed the way
0:51:10.079,0:51:12.000
that we
0:51:10.559,0:51:13.839
we looked at games and what our
0:51:12.000,0:51:16.800
expectations were
0:51:13.839,0:51:17.280
and and those are the ones that i go to
0:51:16.800,0:51:20.319
okay
0:51:17.280,0:51:21.839
fair enough alrighty so
0:51:20.319,0:51:23.599
now we’re going to go back to the
0:51:21.839,0:51:27.520
collecting aspect so
0:51:23.599,0:51:27.520
what inspired you to start collecting
0:51:28.160,0:51:35.200
well madison my inspiration was
0:51:32.000,0:51:36.079
to originally to accumulate the stuff
0:51:35.200,0:51:38.559
that i loved
0:51:36.079,0:51:40.319
but also to try to make some money and
0:51:38.559,0:51:43.280
the reason i wanted to make some money
0:51:40.319,0:51:43.599
was because one year for christmas i did
0:51:43.280,0:51:46.800
not
0:51:43.599,0:51:47.359
get my lost and space robot that i had
0:51:46.800,0:51:50.000
asked for
0:51:47.359,0:51:51.520
for consecutive years and finally i
0:51:50.000,0:51:54.559
decided to myself
0:51:51.520,0:51:56.480
self i’m gonna buy it myself so i
0:51:54.559,0:51:57.359
started collecting things and selling
0:51:56.480,0:51:59.760
them
0:51:57.359,0:52:01.920
making money and tried to save up to buy
0:51:59.760,0:52:04.640
my lawson space robot
0:52:01.920,0:52:05.599
that was the inspiration it did not work
0:52:04.640,0:52:09.440
out well
0:52:05.599,0:52:12.880
because about
0:52:09.440,0:52:16.079
30 years later before um some of my
0:52:12.880,0:52:17.119
close friends and loved ones and family
0:52:16.079,0:52:19.520
members
0:52:17.119,0:52:21.119
joined together to buy me said lost in
0:52:19.520,0:52:24.960
space robot
0:52:21.119,0:52:27.520
um you know it’s i was making money
0:52:24.960,0:52:28.960
doing my collectibles and stuff there’s
0:52:27.520,0:52:30.559
always car insurance
0:52:28.960,0:52:32.960
and then college funds and then you have
0:52:30.559,0:52:34.960
a family and it just never seemed the
0:52:32.960,0:52:36.480
lesson space robot always became the the
0:52:34.960,0:52:39.040
last priority so
0:52:36.480,0:52:41.119
it was tough but that’s why i started
0:52:39.040,0:52:41.520
and ultimately you did wind up getting
0:52:41.119,0:52:45.280
it
0:52:41.520,0:52:47.599
you know ultimately i did yes
0:52:45.280,0:52:51.280
and still have it yep you know see so
0:52:47.599,0:52:51.280
everybody loves a happy ending see
0:52:51.440,0:52:56.000
so in addition to that one how many
0:52:54.720,0:53:00.319
collectibles do you
0:52:56.000,0:53:02.480
estimate that you have oh god you didn’t
0:53:00.319,0:53:02.480
count
0:53:04.400,0:53:08.400
counting the comic books and magic cards
0:53:07.359,0:53:11.760
uh
0:53:08.400,0:53:15.040
i mean just let’s just say thousands
0:53:11.760,0:53:15.040
yeah thousands of
0:53:15.359,0:53:20.480
some would label that an obsession but a
0:53:18.400,0:53:22.960
healthy one
0:53:20.480,0:53:23.680
i don’t i don’t like to be utilized
0:53:22.960,0:53:28.559
blind
0:53:23.680,0:53:31.680
i don’t like labels now
0:53:28.559,0:53:34.640
um so do you just collect do you sell
0:53:31.680,0:53:34.640
and trade your items
0:53:35.119,0:53:41.359
i do trade some items and
0:53:38.240,0:53:43.680
sell some items yet again much more
0:53:41.359,0:53:44.720
when we weren’t having the restrictions
0:53:43.680,0:53:46.880
that we’ve had
0:53:44.720,0:53:48.559
i would love to be able to do comic book
0:53:46.880,0:53:51.280
and toy shows again
0:53:48.559,0:53:51.760
uh goodness knows i’ve got enough stuff
0:53:51.280,0:53:53.680
so
0:53:51.760,0:53:56.160
you know it’s probably great to thin
0:53:53.680,0:53:58.079
that out once in a while
0:53:56.160,0:53:59.760
the other thing that we didn’t really
0:53:58.079,0:54:02.640
talk about earlier
0:53:59.760,0:54:04.079
one of the great aspects of having the
0:54:02.640,0:54:07.040
store
0:54:04.079,0:54:08.720
was and joe you and i touched on this a
0:54:07.040,0:54:11.839
little bit
0:54:08.720,0:54:13.920
was helping other people find
0:54:11.839,0:54:17.119
that one item that they’re looking for
0:54:13.920,0:54:21.040
yeah and watching their face light up
0:54:17.119,0:54:24.079
when that piece that that missing piece
0:54:21.040,0:54:26.319
like shel silverstein said uh it just
0:54:24.079,0:54:29.359
feels that spot in their heart that
0:54:26.319,0:54:30.480
they had as a little kid finding that
0:54:29.359,0:54:33.680
toy or game
0:54:30.480,0:54:36.079
or stuffed animal or whatever it was
0:54:33.680,0:54:38.000
and finally you know having it again it
0:54:36.079,0:54:40.000
just i don’t know it just
0:54:38.000,0:54:41.760
gives you that warm fuzzy feeling so
0:54:40.000,0:54:43.680
that’s another reason why i really would
0:54:41.760,0:54:46.240
like to get back to
0:54:43.680,0:54:48.480
being able to give back some of this
0:54:46.240,0:54:48.480
stuff
0:54:49.280,0:54:52.960
there’s people out there looking for him
0:54:50.640,0:54:55.359
just like joe and i are
0:54:52.960,0:54:57.359
yeah and as a collector i’ve i’ve never
0:54:55.359,0:54:59.680
sold any of my collectors i
0:54:57.359,0:55:01.119
i almost got to the point in fact i
0:54:59.680,0:55:03.839
almost brokered through you
0:55:01.119,0:55:05.599
the sale of a couple of pieces um and i
0:55:03.839,0:55:07.760
was out of work a few years back but
0:55:05.599,0:55:09.599
fortunately
0:55:07.760,0:55:11.680
the situation turned itself around and i
0:55:09.599,0:55:14.559
didn’t have to sell anything
0:55:11.680,0:55:15.440
um and and i still hold on to most of
0:55:14.559,0:55:18.400
the stuff evan and
0:55:15.440,0:55:19.920
my goal was never to to make a profit on
0:55:18.400,0:55:21.440
anything it was really just to capture
0:55:19.920,0:55:24.880
that nostalgia
0:55:21.440,0:55:26.240
but since you did do it semi
0:55:24.880,0:55:28.319
well you did do it professionally
0:55:26.240,0:55:31.440
because you had a store
0:55:28.319,0:55:34.400
do you currently have any
0:55:31.440,0:55:35.440
high value items that you’re holding on
0:55:34.400,0:55:37.920
to that you wouldn’t
0:55:35.440,0:55:38.880
sell or wouldn’t sell unless the
0:55:37.920,0:55:42.079
conditions were
0:55:38.880,0:55:45.040
ideal well sure yeah
0:55:42.079,0:55:46.000
and and we we talked about that a little
0:55:45.040,0:55:48.319
bit earlier too
0:55:46.000,0:55:49.520
that my main obsession comic book wise
0:55:48.319,0:55:53.920
is spider-man
0:55:49.520,0:55:57.040
so that would be probably the most
0:55:53.920,0:55:59.200
valuable thing that i own is i have all
0:55:57.040,0:56:02.720
of the spider-man comic books
0:55:59.200,0:56:04.559
um some of which uh some of you guys
0:56:02.720,0:56:07.200
have gotten to hold and actually
0:56:04.559,0:56:08.960
see so uh that would probably be the
0:56:07.200,0:56:11.839
most expensive thing that i have
0:56:08.960,0:56:12.240
and and i can honestly say since i can’t
0:56:11.839,0:56:16.079
actually
0:56:12.240,0:56:17.920
pick up my car your one spider-man comic
0:56:16.079,0:56:20.799
was literally the most expensive thing
0:56:17.920,0:56:20.799
i’ve ever held
0:56:21.440,0:56:24.720
that’s that’s a pretty safe bet for a
0:56:23.200,0:56:28.079
lot of people yeah
0:56:24.720,0:56:30.319
yeah and uh very good condition
0:56:28.079,0:56:31.280
and i and i assume you’ve kept it in as
0:56:30.319,0:56:33.599
good a condition
0:56:31.280,0:56:35.520
you know in the 10 years since i saw it
0:56:33.599,0:56:37.200
you would expect nothing less
0:56:35.520,0:56:38.559
i imagine it doesn’t see the light of
0:56:37.200,0:56:40.160
day very often
0:56:38.559,0:56:45.839
it really doesn’t no it’s not something
0:56:40.160,0:56:45.839
i take out the thumb through you know
0:56:47.040,0:56:53.200
so um on the subject of some of your
0:56:50.720,0:56:54.960
more valuable items what’s the biggest
0:56:53.200,0:56:56.839
win of a collectible you’ve ever managed
0:56:54.960,0:57:00.319
to acquire
0:56:56.839,0:57:03.760
um well i would say one of my
0:57:00.319,0:57:07.280
favorite things that i found was
0:57:03.760,0:57:07.920
uh as a young collector uh i used to
0:57:07.280,0:57:10.400
frequent
0:57:07.920,0:57:11.520
yard sales in flea markets and my dad
0:57:10.400,0:57:14.400
would would
0:57:11.520,0:57:15.680
actually be running a shop down in
0:57:14.400,0:57:18.160
lahaska
0:57:15.680,0:57:19.839
uh on weekends so i would go down with
0:57:18.160,0:57:21.599
him occasionally
0:57:19.839,0:57:23.280
and this was when i was still you know
0:57:21.599,0:57:26.079
maybe 8 10
0:57:23.280,0:57:26.799
12 years old and i wandered into one of
0:57:26.079,0:57:30.000
the shops
0:57:26.799,0:57:32.079
and uh an older woman had a stack of
0:57:30.000,0:57:34.480
comics under the counter and she
0:57:32.079,0:57:36.559
allowed me to look through them and i
0:57:34.480,0:57:38.160
found one that i really wanted and i
0:57:36.559,0:57:40.799
gave her a quarter
0:57:38.160,0:57:41.920
and i walked out with it and walked very
0:57:40.799,0:57:46.880
quickly back to
0:57:41.920,0:57:51.040
my dad and it was a hulk number six
0:57:46.880,0:57:53.520
which um at the time was probably only
0:57:51.040,0:57:54.480
a couple of hundred dollars but it
0:57:53.520,0:57:56.559
really was like
0:57:54.480,0:57:58.960
one of the big wins of finding something
0:57:56.559,0:58:01.440
in the wild that you never saw
0:57:58.960,0:58:03.119
you know even behind the counter at a
0:58:01.440,0:58:04.640
comic show a lot of times
0:58:03.119,0:58:08.000
that was one of the best things that i
0:58:04.640,0:58:10.640
had found um another one was finding a
0:58:08.000,0:58:12.000
monsters drag race game in a thrift
0:58:10.640,0:58:15.200
store
0:58:12.000,0:58:19.119
for two dollars which i
0:58:15.200,0:58:22.480
then did trade to someone at a toy show
0:58:19.119,0:58:24.880
that was probably
0:58:22.480,0:58:26.000
four or five hundred dollar game at the
0:58:24.880,0:58:27.680
time wow
0:58:26.000,0:58:30.319
so you know you get every once in a
0:58:27.680,0:58:32.799
while you get a win yeah
0:58:30.319,0:58:34.400
so you’ve obviously run the gambit of
0:58:32.799,0:58:35.440
collectibles at this point in time
0:58:34.400,0:58:37.680
comics and
0:58:35.440,0:58:40.319
toys and everything else what are you
0:58:37.680,0:58:41.040
into right now as far as collectibles
0:58:40.319,0:58:44.880
what’s your
0:58:41.040,0:58:44.880
what are you targeting right now
0:58:45.680,0:58:49.599
believe it or not it does seem like
0:58:47.680,0:58:50.319
board games is one of the things that
0:58:49.599,0:58:53.359
i’m uh
0:58:50.319,0:58:56.160
really kind of looking at uh
0:58:53.359,0:58:57.599
we’ve had a lot of fun just doing our
0:58:56.160,0:58:58.799
gaming nights but we’re always looking
0:58:57.599,0:59:01.119
for something new
0:58:58.799,0:59:02.880
i know joe you’ve probably noticed by
0:59:01.119,0:59:03.200
now even though your eyes are drawn to
0:59:02.880,0:59:05.839
the
0:59:03.200,0:59:07.040
return to the jedi game but right next
0:59:05.839,0:59:10.240
to that you’ll see
0:59:07.040,0:59:12.960
a copy of the very rare uh
0:59:10.240,0:59:14.640
john carpenter’s the thing game and
0:59:12.960,0:59:18.240
it’ll be a second i’m gonna grab that
0:59:14.640,0:59:21.520
for you oh
0:59:18.240,0:59:22.319
i better grab this one too this was
0:59:21.520,0:59:26.000
another
0:59:22.319,0:59:29.040
surprise this past year and and
0:59:26.000,0:59:31.680
god love him for something like this
0:59:29.040,0:59:33.440
um let me find my camera there we go
0:59:31.680,0:59:36.799
you’re good you’re good
0:59:33.440,0:59:40.400
all right um the princess bride game uh
0:59:36.799,0:59:41.760
it recreates all the scenarios from the
0:59:40.400,0:59:45.680
movie
0:59:41.760,0:59:47.760
and allows you to play the characters
0:59:45.680,0:59:48.880
as they would have approached each
0:59:47.760,0:59:51.440
challenge
0:59:48.880,0:59:53.040
so you have the despair you have the
0:59:51.440,0:59:56.480
cliffs of insanity
0:59:53.040,0:59:57.920
you have the shrieking eels and you have
0:59:56.480,0:59:59.359
to do different things in order to get
0:59:57.920,1:00:00.640
through those scenarios and it’s a lot
0:59:59.359,1:00:04.400
of fun
1:00:00.640,1:00:05.119
um and then this one was a christmas
1:00:04.400,1:00:09.280
present
1:00:05.119,1:00:12.480
that just came out a couple of years ago
1:00:09.280,1:00:15.599
uh i had seen it at toy fair
1:00:12.480,1:00:17.680
tried to buy it they were sold out
1:00:15.599,1:00:18.720
tried to buy it at go games they were
1:00:17.680,1:00:20.960
sold out
1:00:18.720,1:00:22.000
then they stopped making it for a while
1:00:20.960,1:00:27.040
so this was
1:00:22.000,1:00:29.680
uh quite a fine this past year very good
1:00:27.040,1:00:31.680
this is very much similar and madison
1:00:29.680,1:00:34.559
you might be aware of this game um
1:00:31.680,1:00:36.880
there’s an online game called among us
1:00:34.559,1:00:38.960
oh yeah
1:00:36.880,1:00:40.839
you know basically the plot of that
1:00:38.960,1:00:44.079
right yeah
1:00:40.839,1:00:45.839
impossible that’s kind of the premise of
1:00:44.079,1:00:47.359
the thing and i know some of your other
1:00:45.839,1:00:50.640
viewers will know that
1:00:47.359,1:00:53.920
uh what happens is there’s a bunch of
1:00:50.640,1:00:56.960
scientists in the arctic
1:00:53.920,1:00:59.920
and they discover a flying saucer
1:00:56.960,1:01:02.160
and there’s a creature on there that
1:00:59.920,1:01:04.319
takes the place of one of the people
1:01:02.160,1:01:05.359
and they don’t know who it is right and
1:01:04.319,1:01:08.000
that name
1:01:05.359,1:01:10.240
one of you is the creature trying to
1:01:08.000,1:01:11.839
chase and eat the other ones
1:01:10.240,1:01:14.000
and you either have to escape or kill
1:01:11.839,1:01:16.799
the creature and it’s it’s really
1:01:14.000,1:01:19.760
like intense that’s cool that’s cool big
1:01:16.799,1:01:21.200
fan of the movie love the movie
1:01:19.760,1:01:23.440
yeah they did a really good job making
1:01:21.200,1:01:25.680
this creepy too that’s cool
1:01:23.440,1:01:26.799
and that’s hard to do with a board game
1:01:25.680,1:01:28.319
it is
1:01:26.799,1:01:30.640
so we’re kind of running up against the
1:01:28.319,1:01:33.680
clock here before we go
1:01:30.640,1:01:35.440
um did you have any advice for someone
1:01:33.680,1:01:36.960
madison’s age who
1:01:35.440,1:01:38.799
might want to start collecting and
1:01:36.960,1:01:41.119
doesn’t really know how to get into it
1:01:38.799,1:01:42.319
or is looking for a game that they might
1:01:41.119,1:01:44.079
be able to play with
1:01:42.319,1:01:46.559
their friends in a limited environment
1:01:44.079,1:01:48.480
or anything like that
1:01:46.559,1:01:49.839
there’s a there’s a great selection out
1:01:48.480,1:01:53.119
there i would say
1:01:49.839,1:01:53.920
one of your your options is to maybe go
1:01:53.119,1:01:56.240
to
1:01:53.920,1:01:57.359
some of these comic shows and
1:01:56.240,1:02:00.079
collectible shows
1:01:57.359,1:02:01.760
or even a comic shop and ask some of the
1:02:00.079,1:02:02.880
not only the owners or
1:02:01.760,1:02:05.599
people that are working behind the
1:02:02.880,1:02:06.079
counter but if you see uh someone had a
1:02:05.599,1:02:08.480
table
1:02:06.079,1:02:10.319
playing a game stick around and and
1:02:08.480,1:02:12.559
check it out because that’s a good way
1:02:10.319,1:02:15.520
of seeing one of those reviews those
1:02:12.559,1:02:17.200
game reviews in person
1:02:15.520,1:02:18.880
there’s a lot of options out there i
1:02:17.200,1:02:19.359
know that there aren’t a lot of toy
1:02:18.880,1:02:22.319
stores
1:02:19.359,1:02:23.920
anymore but you know barnes and noble
1:02:22.319,1:02:25.440
does a good job of putting a bunch of
1:02:23.920,1:02:27.599
different games out there
1:02:25.440,1:02:29.280
uh target does a great job they’ve
1:02:27.599,1:02:30.720
really you know kind of kept
1:02:29.280,1:02:32.720
stepped up their game this past year
1:02:30.720,1:02:35.039
with the board games um
1:02:32.720,1:02:36.559
we don’t have we don’t have kitty city
1:02:35.039,1:02:39.359
we don’t have toys r us
1:02:36.559,1:02:41.119
we don’t have kb toys anymore but you
1:02:39.359,1:02:42.799
know you’ll have like a go games at
1:02:41.119,1:02:46.000
christmas time that you can maybe
1:02:42.799,1:02:48.559
find some cool stuff at um
1:02:46.000,1:02:49.200
and then just go with what you really
1:02:48.559,1:02:51.359
enjoy
1:02:49.200,1:02:53.200
i mean we’ve had a lot of success with
1:02:51.359,1:02:56.240
that joe as far as you know
1:02:53.200,1:02:57.440
your love of star wars uh michelle’s
1:02:56.240,1:03:00.559
love of buffy
1:02:57.440,1:03:02.160
um you know us with you know any of the
1:03:00.559,1:03:04.240
other games that we’ve brought over to
1:03:02.160,1:03:06.720
you guys um
1:03:04.240,1:03:08.960
see what your friends like check it out
1:03:06.720,1:03:10.400
um there’s such a variety of games out
1:03:08.960,1:03:11.440
there right now you’re bound to find
1:03:10.400,1:03:13.920
something you like
1:03:11.440,1:03:15.359
awesome awesome well we’ll be right back
1:03:13.920,1:03:17.420
and we’ll get
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madison’s closing remarks
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okay so for my closing remarks today i’m
1:03:25.920,1:03:32.480
just going to say to everyone out there
1:03:28.839,1:03:35.760
um play some games you don’t have to
1:03:32.480,1:03:38.000
always do it with people because
1:03:35.760,1:03:39.520
of course restricted environment but try
1:03:38.000,1:03:41.760
it out for yourself
1:03:39.520,1:03:44.000
try out some single player games and if
1:03:41.760,1:03:46.160
you can try out some group games
1:03:44.000,1:03:48.720
be creative with how you can play them
1:03:46.160,1:03:50.720
and try out new games and see if
1:03:48.720,1:03:51.760
and i’m sure there’s something you’ll
1:03:50.720,1:03:54.799
like
1:03:51.760,1:03:58.079
all right great advice uh
1:03:54.799,1:04:00.000
dan again i want to thank you for uh
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joining us today it’s been a pleasure
1:04:00.000,1:04:04.799
it’s been insightful
1:04:01.599,1:04:06.400
entertaining educational
1:04:04.799,1:04:08.000
of course thank you so much for having
1:04:06.400,1:04:09.440
me guys i really enjoyed it
1:04:08.000,1:04:13.839
most of our entertainment was the your
1:04:09.440,1:04:13.839
mom joke but
1:04:14.880,1:04:18.400
exactly exactly so that’s it for this
1:04:17.680,1:04:20.799
week
1:04:18.400,1:04:22.640
uh we’ll be back uh we won’t be
1:04:20.799,1:04:24.880
recording this weekend because this will
1:04:22.640,1:04:27.280
be this weekend’s podcast but
1:04:24.880,1:04:28.799
we’ll be back the following week so
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thank you for joining us on our special
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100th
1:04:30.000,1:04:38.839
episode and that’s it another one in the
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books
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[Music]
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do
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you