Insights Into Teens: Episode 100 “Fun and Games with Dan”

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  • Insights Into Teens: Episode 100 “Fun and Games with Dan”
  • My strong and confident co-host Madison Whalen
  • Our special guest today is Dan Wirth, a toy and games expert
     
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[SEGMENT 1 – 10 mins] 

Introduction

• Tell us a little bit about your background in gaming and collecting
• Would you describe yourself as a collector or a dealer of classic toys
• How long did you own a gaming/toy store
• Do you still sell toys
• What is your go to game at a party where the participants might not be big on gaming
• How many games would you estimate you currently own
• What do you find to be the most important thing that games offer to individuals
• What do you find to be the most important thing that collecting offers to individuals
• What do you enjoy most about sharing a new game with people
• Have you ever done reviews for games
• Have you ever graded toys professionally
• Do you go to game and toy shows? If so what is the choice show for collectors to go to in the area

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[SEGMENT 2 – 10-15 mins] 

Importance of Teens and Gaming and the Importance of Family Game Time

https://youaremom.com/children/games-during-adolescence/

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• Games are key to the personal development of youth during adolescence and offer a number of benefits. 
  • Playing games allows young people to learn and have fun. 
  • Games can also be used as a means of distraction and personal growth. 
  • The most popular games for teens are those that provide challenges to the mind. Some examples are: 
    • strategy games
      • Puzzle games like tetris, candy crush, tsum tsum
    • board games
      • Monopoly, Clue, The Game of LIfe
    • word games
      • Scattergories, scrabble, words with friends, boggle
  • Games are truly a privileged tool that allows for the development of a positive attitude that can accompany teens for the rest of their lives. 
  • Playing games combines pleasure, participation, creativity and experience
    
  • Quick Questions:
    • Would you agree that there are loads of benefits to teens from games?
    • Do you believe that the games teens want are the ones that give them a challenge?
    • What other types of games do you think challenge the mind of a teen?
    • Do you think games can serve as a means of learning for teens?
    • Do you think it’s possible to play too many games as a teen?
    • Do you think teens get the same benefits out of video games as they do from more traditional table top style games
    • Do you think there are any disadvantages from teens playing games?
    • Do you think individual game play or group game play is more beneficial to teens?
    • Are there other benefits teens can benefit from when playing games?

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[SEGMENT 3 – 10-15 mins] 

Deep dive with Dan

• How old were you when you started to get into gaming and collecting
• What games were popular when you were a teen
• Did he ever play any bizarre games
• Was there are particular theme of gaming or game type that you were interested in
• Do you play any modern games now
• What makes a good game
• Have you ever made your own game
• Are there any games you think are underrated
• What is your gaming preference as far as game type (card games, board games, team based games, dice games, tabletop miniatures, role playing, etc.)
• What inspired you to start collecting
• How many collectibles do you estimate you have
• Do you just collect, or do you sell/trade your items
• Do you have any high value items
• What was the biggest win of a collectible you’ve managed to acquire
• What type of collectibles do you prefer

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episode 100

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fun and games with dan i’m your host

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joseph whalen

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and my strong and confident co-host

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madison whalen

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hi everyone how you doing today maddie

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i’m doing all right

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so we’re going a little off schedule

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today’s a tuesday we’re recording on

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because we have a special guest with us

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today let me introduce our special guest

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today discussing fun and games with us

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is dan worth how are you doing today dan

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i’m doing very well thank you thanks for

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having me on the show thank you for

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joining us

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so dan is uh is a resident expert

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on games um every time we think of

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anything that has to do with fun and

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games toys collectibles board games card

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games

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dan’s our man to go to so we’re gonna be

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asking dan some questions about gaming

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we have uh

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some statistics some information on how

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games affect

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teens we’ll be talking about that and

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then we’re going to be doing a

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deep dive with uh dan and some of his

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experience

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and just get his general input on gaming

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so bef you know before we get too deep

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into things let’s let’s

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introduce dan again and and let’s find

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out a little bit more about dan

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and what is some of his expertise why

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don’t you why don’t you take that

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okay so tell us a bit about your

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background in gaming

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and collecting sure

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i have been actively collecting

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something

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since the early 70s um i started with

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comic books

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um picked up board games uh in the

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1980s and action figures along the way

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um pretty much just uh all pop culture

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sci-fi monsters um

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tv movie related stuff uh and then

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it’s just such a wealth of

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just a great time for board games in

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general right now because there’s so

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much

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out there to choose from and it’s a

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great subject for you guys to be talking

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about tonight

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okay all righty uh would you describe

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yourself as a collector or a dealer of

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classic toys

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right now i would say it’s much more of

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a collector

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um some of that is by choice some of it

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is by

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you know the situation with the kovid uh

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restrictions that are on us right now

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it’s very difficult to try to do

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a lot of the events that we would

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normally do like comic cons

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toy shows antique shows things like that

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we did own a store in bethlehem

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for about six years that was a toy and

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collectible shop

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and that was a you know just a few years

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ago

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but right now the environment does not

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lend itself as easily

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to um have people walk in or even do the

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conventions as much so i am much more of

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a collector right now

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just picking up things that i think are

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going to be of interest to the group

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that i game with

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alrighty that kind of leads well into

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our second question

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so how long did you own your gaming

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slash toy store

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it was about six years we had a really

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good run in downtown

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bethlehem pennsylvania we had a variety

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of

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collectibles from comic books to

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um action figures board games

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of course certain card games like magic

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and pokemon

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and you know some of the uh mainstream

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stuff that you’ll see and

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we tried to really pick some obscure

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things as well that we would pick up at

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you know major toy shows like the new

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york toy show that’s

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at the javits center and just odds and

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ends that we would find in our travels

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so dang you mentioned uh comics at the

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store are you

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a comic aficionado or a comic collector

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what’s your affiliation with comics

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i would say that is primarily where my

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heart lies joe

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uh my collection started with marvel

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um specifically with spider-man um i

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started with

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uh spider-man number 96

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in 1971 back in the olden days

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yes they did have comic books back then

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um

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and it was that first comic book that

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led me to get all the rest of those

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and a lot of the other major marvel

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comics um so i would consider myself

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primarily a comic book collector

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but as it’s turned out and as we’ll talk

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about

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um it’s hard to ignore the fact that

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i’ve got

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a very large collection of board games

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so i have to ask you on the subject of

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comics are you

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just marvel are you dc are you indie

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where where do you usually lie in that

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in that realm

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uh my loyalties have gotten much broader

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over the years uh i am not afraid to

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expand into some of the dc comics uh

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i also love a lot of independent comics

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and have loved a lot of independent

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comics over the years

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um we we have those folks to thank for

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the teenage

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ninja mutant turtles we have them to

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thank for the walking dead

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um the boys um a lot of the stuff that’s

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out there right now that is so popular

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um is a result of independence

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and that’s it’s a huge faction in the

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comic book world

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yeah i agree 100 there what’s our next

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question

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um our next question was do you still

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sell toys

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i do it’s more of an online sales

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technique that we use you know we do

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some ebay

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we still sell some things through our

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facebook page

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for the underground layer uh but right

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now i’m much more of a collector than a

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seller

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all right so picture this scenario so

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picture the scenario where

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so what is your go-to game at a party

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where the participants might not be

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it big on gaming

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that’s a great question because you know

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you’re you’re going to have a wide

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variety of people at things like that

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and you want to get something that’s

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going to

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appeal to everyone i like things like

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apples to apples that’s a great general

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easy board game to to you know teach

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people i know it’s basically cards but

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uh i think we have to really expand the

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way that we’re thinking about this

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category to include some of that stuff

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um and you can’t mention apples to

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apples without the adult version of also

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cards against humanity which has just

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become so huge

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of a product over the last couple of

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years and immensely popular

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and has really gotten people who

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wouldn’t normally do gaming nights to do

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some gaming nights

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uh when we would go to

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uh the various uh toy shows that would

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introduce us to new games

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some of the companies that we found that

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really grabbed us were

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uh companies like calliope who is

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responsible for

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role for it which is a great party game

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you can play it up to five people

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it’s a dice rolling game where you’re

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trying to win cards

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the other one that they did that we

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really love is sorrow and sorrow of the

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seas

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which was a very creative take on a

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board game where

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you are sailing on ships creating paths

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for yourself

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but also trying to cut off your

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opponents and be the last man standing

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on the board

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um another one that’s great for parties

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and that we have found over the years

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really helps people break the ice is a

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game called

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outburst um that’s by um

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it’s a a nice shout out game where

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people don’t have to be shy about it you

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know you’re trying to come up with

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answers as fast as you can

0:10:14.720,0:10:18.399
there’s another one that just came out

0:10:16.240,0:10:19.760
recently called code names which is of

0:10:18.399,0:10:23.519
the same flavor

0:10:19.760,0:10:25.200
um by a company called cge and that’s

0:10:23.519,0:10:26.560
gotten a lot of popularity and there’s a

0:10:25.200,0:10:28.079
lot of different versions of that one

0:10:26.560,0:10:30.839
out there as well

0:10:28.079,0:10:32.079
great that’s a that’s a lot of great

0:10:30.839,0:10:35.120
suggestions

0:10:32.079,0:10:37.120
um next is a pretty big question

0:10:35.120,0:10:39.839
how many games would you estimate you

0:10:37.120,0:10:42.399
currently own

0:10:39.839,0:10:43.920
uh this was an eye-opening question for

0:10:42.399,0:10:46.959
me

0:10:43.920,0:10:48.720
because i don’t think i realized how

0:10:46.959,0:10:51.920
many games i had

0:10:48.720,0:10:55.519
but just in the house right now uh

0:10:51.920,0:10:58.320
we have close to 100 so i would say

0:10:55.519,0:10:59.279
easily we have over 200 different kinds

0:10:58.320,0:11:02.560
of board games

0:10:59.279,0:11:05.600
i am not counting uh the card games

0:11:02.560,0:11:07.279
in that so or or just the strict dice

0:11:05.600,0:11:09.680
games like yahtzee

0:11:07.279,0:11:11.360
and uh you know magic the gathering and

0:11:09.680,0:11:13.360
some of the other stuff like that that

0:11:11.360,0:11:15.200
is a whole another category we’re not

0:11:13.360,0:11:15.920
going to count the role-playing games as

0:11:15.200,0:11:19.200
well like d

0:11:15.920,0:11:19.200
and d or

0:11:21.440,0:11:24.800
again another totally different category

0:11:24.399,0:11:26.720
and

0:11:24.800,0:11:30.160
and that would be why dan’s on this show

0:11:26.720,0:11:30.160
because dan is the expert

0:11:32.000,0:11:36.959
what else do we have okay next one is

0:11:35.200,0:11:40.800
what do you find to be the most

0:11:36.959,0:11:40.800
important thing that games offer to

0:11:40.839,0:11:45.440
individuals

0:11:42.240,0:11:45.920
one of the great things about board

0:11:45.440,0:11:48.800
games

0:11:45.920,0:11:50.720
is that it brings people together has

0:11:48.800,0:11:54.480
them sitting in close proximity

0:11:50.720,0:11:55.440
and exchanging looks and smiles and

0:11:54.480,0:11:56.880
jokes

0:11:55.440,0:11:58.399
and that’s been one of the great things

0:11:56.880,0:11:59.360
that my friends and i have shared over

0:11:58.399,0:12:02.000
the years with

0:11:59.360,0:12:03.120
sitting around playing a board game is

0:12:02.000,0:12:05.680
as

0:12:03.120,0:12:06.320
much as it might be competitive you’re

0:12:05.680,0:12:10.160
also

0:12:06.320,0:12:12.320
laughing and joking and talking uh it’s

0:12:10.160,0:12:16.079
a great way to just have a nice

0:12:12.320,0:12:17.440
uh camaraderie and have people come

0:12:16.079,0:12:19.360
together over

0:12:17.440,0:12:22.320
you know something that’s a neutral

0:12:19.360,0:12:25.600
ground and you enjoy doing

0:12:22.320,0:12:27.600
yeah that makes sense um

0:12:25.600,0:12:29.360
now to kind of go along with that

0:12:27.600,0:12:31.120
question what do you find is the most

0:12:29.360,0:12:34.079
important thing that collecting offers

0:12:31.120,0:12:34.079
to individuals

0:12:35.440,0:12:41.600
i find that both from myself

0:12:39.360,0:12:42.800
and to all my friends who collect and

0:12:41.600,0:12:44.240
the people that used to come into the

0:12:42.800,0:12:47.200
underground lair

0:12:44.240,0:12:49.120
um there’s always that feeling of taking

0:12:47.200,0:12:51.040
you back to your childhood to taking you

0:12:49.120,0:12:53.519
to fond memories

0:12:51.040,0:12:54.959
and and just you know warming your heart

0:12:53.519,0:12:56.480
when you see some of these things that

0:12:54.959,0:12:59.440
you grew up with

0:12:56.480,0:13:01.760
uh and it’s right there in your hands

0:12:59.440,0:13:04.959
again and it and it really

0:13:01.760,0:13:06.160
sparks a lot of memories and as well as

0:13:04.959,0:13:08.320
some people will say

0:13:06.160,0:13:11.360
you know the collecting aspect of it can

0:13:08.320,0:13:14.240
be monetarily beneficial

0:13:11.360,0:13:14.800
um you can make a lot of money with you

0:13:14.240,0:13:16.880
know

0:13:14.800,0:13:17.839
buying older board games or rare board

0:13:16.880,0:13:21.360
games

0:13:17.839,0:13:24.639
um i find much more often that

0:13:21.360,0:13:26.160
it’s that sense of nostalgia

0:13:24.639,0:13:27.600
more than anything else that brings

0:13:26.160,0:13:28.800
people back to some of those classic

0:13:27.600,0:13:30.880
board games

0:13:28.800,0:13:33.040
and i i have to agree with you 100 there

0:13:30.880,0:13:35.839
every time i stepped in the store

0:13:33.040,0:13:37.360
uh it it i was a kid again stepping in

0:13:35.839,0:13:38.880
you know it was let’s look around let’s

0:13:37.360,0:13:42.000
see what i can find here

0:13:38.880,0:13:44.880
that that brings me back

0:13:42.000,0:13:46.399
all those years and and for me from a

0:13:44.880,0:13:49.519
collecting standpoint it’s

0:13:46.399,0:13:51.360
it’s almost it’s the hunt that’s so

0:13:49.519,0:13:53.519
rewarding like i know there’s a piece

0:13:51.360,0:13:55.360
that i want you know i’m a as you know a

0:13:53.519,0:13:57.199
big star wars collector

0:13:55.360,0:13:58.880
and when there’s a piece that i find you

0:13:57.199,0:14:02.720
know we had gone to uh

0:13:58.880,0:14:04.560
the one uh show out in uh

0:14:02.720,0:14:06.000
i wasn’t out in bucks out where the the

0:14:04.560,0:14:09.120
um

0:14:06.000,0:14:12.560
the fuse is huge yeah yeah

0:14:09.120,0:14:14.959
and there was a um a piece

0:14:12.560,0:14:16.160
uh from the 90s it was it was a darth

0:14:14.959,0:14:19.279
vader statue

0:14:16.160,0:14:21.040
that i had been looking for for years

0:14:19.279,0:14:22.720
and i hadn’t found it anywhere had been

0:14:21.040,0:14:23.360
on the market anywhere can’t find it on

0:14:22.720,0:14:24.800
the internet

0:14:23.360,0:14:27.519
nothing i mean when you can’t find it on

0:14:24.800,0:14:30.480
ebay you know you’re in trouble

0:14:27.519,0:14:31.920
and lo and behold it was their top of

0:14:30.480,0:14:34.079
the pile on display

0:14:31.920,0:14:35.760
in the back corner and i found it and

0:14:34.079,0:14:37.360
instantly bought it because that was the

0:14:35.760,0:14:38.800
piece that i’ve been looking for for so

0:14:37.360,0:14:42.160
long

0:14:38.800,0:14:44.399
so and it was so you have to think that

0:14:42.160,0:14:46.959
that’s that feeling that indiana jones

0:14:44.399,0:14:50.560
has every time he finds a relic

0:14:46.959,0:14:52.079
because the joy of that moment of

0:14:50.560,0:14:54.480
finding that rare thing

0:14:52.079,0:14:55.279
out in the wild is there there’s nothing

0:14:54.480,0:14:57.360
quite like it

0:14:55.279,0:14:58.720
so madison also i would say it’s a

0:14:57.360,0:15:01.440
thrill of the hunt

0:14:58.720,0:15:03.279
like uh your dad is saying it’s it’s

0:15:01.440,0:15:06.639
that adventure and i

0:15:03.279,0:15:09.279
for many years had my own

0:15:06.639,0:15:11.040
versions of belloc when i was out at

0:15:09.279,0:15:12.000
flea markets and yard sales and we would

0:15:11.040,0:15:13.920
run into each other

0:15:12.000,0:15:15.760
and we would just show off what we had

0:15:13.920,0:15:17.680
found and like oh

0:15:15.760,0:15:19.920
once again we see that what you once

0:15:17.680,0:15:22.959
possessed is now

0:15:19.920,0:15:24.000
well there’s that aspect too but um it’s

0:15:22.959,0:15:27.600
it’s just fun

0:15:24.000,0:15:29.680
and and good-hearted uh ribbing um

0:15:27.600,0:15:31.680
but man it is exciting when you can find

0:15:29.680,0:15:33.519
that one rare thing

0:15:31.680,0:15:35.600
that you’ve been looking for for so long

0:15:33.519,0:15:38.079
and and we all certainly have them

0:15:35.600,0:15:41.440
yep yeah well maybe not you yet madison

0:15:38.079,0:15:43.519
but you will

0:15:41.440,0:15:45.839
what else do we have sweetie so the next

0:15:43.519,0:15:49.279
question is what do you enjoy most about

0:15:45.839,0:15:49.279
sharing a new game with people

0:15:50.480,0:15:53.759
i love the expressions on people’s faces

0:15:53.120,0:15:56.560
when they’re

0:15:53.759,0:15:57.040
getting pulled into the spirit of the

0:15:56.560,0:16:00.720
game

0:15:57.040,0:16:03.519
and uh that sense of

0:16:00.720,0:16:04.240
joining on an adventure i can tell you

0:16:03.519,0:16:06.399
that

0:16:04.240,0:16:08.880
one of the most fun things and and i’m

0:16:06.399,0:16:11.920
gonna bring this home to like a personal

0:16:08.880,0:16:14.160
aspect uh when

0:16:11.920,0:16:15.360
one of the first times when your your

0:16:14.160,0:16:18.240
mom and dad

0:16:15.360,0:16:19.440
and i would play a board game like the

0:16:18.240,0:16:22.880
buffy game

0:16:19.440,0:16:25.040
uh buffy the vampire slayer uh it was

0:16:22.880,0:16:27.360
very exciting to see you know the

0:16:25.040,0:16:29.279
interactions of the characters and and

0:16:27.360,0:16:31.040
not know what situations are going to

0:16:29.279,0:16:32.639
come up and then remember what had

0:16:31.040,0:16:35.279
happened on the show and

0:16:32.639,0:16:36.959
you know it was just such a blast to

0:16:35.279,0:16:37.600
share those laughs and then you tell

0:16:36.959,0:16:40.000
stories

0:16:37.600,0:16:41.680
and it just makes it a very interesting

0:16:40.000,0:16:45.920
evening around a board game to

0:16:41.680,0:16:49.040
to be able to share that yep

0:16:45.920,0:16:51.680
i definitely i remember a lot of

0:16:49.040,0:16:53.839
i remember a lot of times when i don’t

0:16:51.680,0:16:55.199
particularly like new things i will be

0:16:53.839,0:16:58.399
honest i don’t like

0:16:55.199,0:17:01.839
change very much but when um

0:16:58.399,0:17:02.720
i had well when i first learned about

0:17:01.839,0:17:05.120
monopoly

0:17:02.720,0:17:06.799
i didn’t want to put the game down it

0:17:05.120,0:17:09.839
just was so fun to me

0:17:06.799,0:17:11.839
and like at first i was kind of like um

0:17:09.839,0:17:13.120
i don’t know if i want to play this and

0:17:11.839,0:17:15.839
then by the end i’m like

0:17:13.120,0:17:17.520
okay come on i want to yeah we went

0:17:15.839,0:17:18.000
through our monopoly phase where we

0:17:17.520,0:17:21.120
would play

0:17:18.000,0:17:22.400
that nightly for a couple of weeks

0:17:21.120,0:17:24.720
straight

0:17:22.400,0:17:25.439
and the worst part was i would win a lot

0:17:24.720,0:17:29.039
of them and

0:17:25.439,0:17:29.039
everyone would get angry at me so

0:17:31.280,0:17:34.640
what’s next uh next is have you ever

0:17:34.240,0:17:38.320
done

0:17:34.640,0:17:39.919
reviews for games that’s something that

0:17:38.320,0:17:41.120
i haven’t done yet i do have friends

0:17:39.919,0:17:43.440
that do that

0:17:41.120,0:17:45.360
um but we haven’t actually sat down and

0:17:43.440,0:17:46.000
done the reviews i’ve watched a few of

0:17:45.360,0:17:48.480
them

0:17:46.000,0:17:49.679
i can’t mention you know the names off

0:17:48.480,0:17:52.400
the top of my head

0:17:49.679,0:17:54.640
but i know that that is a lot of times

0:17:52.400,0:17:56.799
an invaluable service

0:17:54.640,0:17:57.919
to be able to see the game being played

0:17:56.799,0:18:00.480
to understand

0:17:57.919,0:18:02.559
you know what you’re getting in for um

0:18:00.480,0:18:06.160
before you make that purchase

0:18:02.559,0:18:08.160
um and let me just mention at this point

0:18:06.160,0:18:10.000
something else that people are gonna

0:18:08.160,0:18:11.120
find when they go to buy some of these

0:18:10.000,0:18:13.520
board games

0:18:11.120,0:18:15.360
the price point nowadays is a little bit

0:18:13.520,0:18:17.120
different than it used to be i think the

0:18:15.360,0:18:18.160
average right now is somewhere from the

0:18:17.120,0:18:20.320
60 to 80

0:18:18.160,0:18:21.200
range so when you’re spending that much

0:18:20.320,0:18:24.880
money

0:18:21.200,0:18:26.480
game reviews are invaluable

0:18:24.880,0:18:28.320
to be able to see if it’s something

0:18:26.480,0:18:29.919
you’re going to enjoy when you’re

0:18:28.320,0:18:31.440
investing that much money in something

0:18:29.919,0:18:32.640
new like you said madison if you

0:18:31.440,0:18:34.720
especially if you don’t like

0:18:32.640,0:18:35.919
something new you want to make sure that

0:18:34.720,0:18:36.799
it’s something that you really are going

0:18:35.919,0:18:41.600
to like

0:18:36.799,0:18:43.360
yeah absolutely definitely um

0:18:41.600,0:18:44.720
kind of going along with that question

0:18:43.360,0:18:47.440
have you ever created toys

0:18:44.720,0:18:47.440
professionally

0:18:47.520,0:18:51.919
i have that was one of the services that

0:18:50.000,0:18:54.320
we offered at the underground lair

0:18:51.919,0:18:57.200
and i had been doing it you know in a

0:18:54.320,0:18:59.760
much more amateur sense

0:18:57.200,0:19:00.880
for years leading up to that um i would

0:18:59.760,0:19:04.400
do it for friends

0:19:00.880,0:19:05.200
who would be cleaning out a relative’s

0:19:04.400,0:19:08.480
attic

0:19:05.200,0:19:10.080
or a basement or you know would be ready

0:19:08.480,0:19:10.640
to get rid of their collection and want

0:19:10.080,0:19:13.360
to know

0:19:10.640,0:19:14.000
hey do i have anything here that i can

0:19:13.360,0:19:17.120
you know

0:19:14.000,0:19:18.559
maybe make some money on um and

0:19:17.120,0:19:20.720
and that’s something that i’ve always

0:19:18.559,0:19:22.400
been up on i know

0:19:20.720,0:19:24.880
you know the grading system of a lot of

0:19:22.400,0:19:26.160
the board games and comic books and

0:19:24.880,0:19:28.080
action figures

0:19:26.160,0:19:30.880
so it was a service that we definitely

0:19:28.080,0:19:34.559
wanted to offer at the underground lair

0:19:30.880,0:19:38.000
okay um our last question we have

0:19:34.559,0:19:40.720
is do you do game and toy shows if so

0:19:38.000,0:19:41.600
is the champ is the choice show for

0:19:40.720,0:19:44.320
collect

0:19:41.600,0:19:45.760
what if so what is the choice show for

0:19:44.320,0:19:48.880
collectors to go

0:19:45.760,0:19:51.520
to in the area

0:19:48.880,0:19:52.720
great question and there are we are

0:19:51.520,0:19:55.679
really lucky

0:19:52.720,0:19:56.160
in that we have a couple of premier toy

0:19:55.679,0:19:59.360
shows

0:19:56.160,0:20:02.480
in our area um some of my favorites

0:19:59.360,0:20:04.320
um and again we’re we’re gonna have to

0:20:02.480,0:20:06.080
talk about this from outside of a cove

0:20:04.320,0:20:08.320
situation you know if it was a normal

0:20:06.080,0:20:08.799
year regular you know events being

0:20:08.320,0:20:10.240
planned

0:20:08.799,0:20:11.919
these would be the places that you would

0:20:10.240,0:20:14.080
want to hit

0:20:11.919,0:20:14.960
one of the first ones that i always go

0:20:14.080,0:20:18.960
to

0:20:14.960,0:20:21.520
is the allentown ag hall toy show

0:20:18.960,0:20:22.480
which is the first saturday of every

0:20:21.520,0:20:26.559
november

0:20:22.480,0:20:28.880
and it’s a mixture of antiques

0:20:26.559,0:20:30.400
up to current day you know action

0:20:28.880,0:20:32.799
figures and board games

0:20:30.400,0:20:34.320
it’s relatively inexpensive to get into

0:20:32.799,0:20:36.080
i think it was only like five bucks or

0:20:34.320,0:20:39.039
seven bucks to walk in

0:20:36.080,0:20:39.600
and they just have aisles and aisles of

0:20:39.039,0:20:41.440
really

0:20:39.600,0:20:42.960
fun vintage stuff that you might not see

0:20:41.440,0:20:45.840
anywhere else

0:20:42.960,0:20:46.720
uh the other one was um the lehigh

0:20:45.840,0:20:48.559
valley comic con

0:20:46.720,0:20:49.840
is also in allentown there you’ll see a

0:20:48.559,0:20:52.480
good mix of comic books

0:20:49.840,0:20:53.840
board games action figures a little bit

0:20:52.480,0:20:57.280
of everything

0:20:53.840,0:20:59.200
uh there’s zolokon in warminster pa

0:20:57.280,0:21:01.200
uh which is the other name for the fuge

0:20:59.200,0:21:04.480
joe yes uh

0:21:01.200,0:21:07.919
again a fabulous show in

0:21:04.480,0:21:11.840
just a fantastic sci-fi

0:21:07.919,0:21:14.159
realistic um you know it walks that line

0:21:11.840,0:21:14.799
between you know fantasy and reality

0:21:14.159,0:21:19.840
that

0:21:14.799,0:21:19.840
just adds to that ambiance of being

0:21:21.360,0:21:30.480
that um the other one was retro con

0:21:26.320,0:21:32.880
in um oaks pa yeah

0:21:30.480,0:21:34.720
and then the toy con in new jersey at

0:21:32.880,0:21:36.400
atlantic city

0:21:34.720,0:21:38.320
that one i think we’ve never been to

0:21:36.400,0:21:40.960
that one

0:21:38.320,0:21:41.520
that’s that’s a really big one joe um

0:21:40.960,0:21:44.960
that’s

0:21:41.520,0:21:46.640
uh again it’s kind of like a good mix of

0:21:44.960,0:21:48.240
antiques and new stuff but it’s much

0:21:46.640,0:21:51.360
more of the older stuff

0:21:48.240,0:21:54.720
and in much more quantities right

0:21:51.360,0:21:56.799
so on that on that note um

0:21:54.720,0:21:58.799
what about the comic cons you know we’ve

0:21:56.799,0:21:59.280
get we get wizard world in the area we

0:21:58.799,0:22:02.080
get

0:21:59.280,0:22:04.000
uh new york comic-con are these some of

0:22:02.080,0:22:05.679
the premier shows yeah

0:22:04.000,0:22:07.919
are these some place that a collector

0:22:05.679,0:22:10.559
would go or are they more contemporary

0:22:07.919,0:22:12.159
vendors that you have there you’re gonna

0:22:10.559,0:22:13.360
have more contemporary vendors you’re

0:22:12.159,0:22:14.320
gonna have people that know what they’re

0:22:13.360,0:22:16.240
doing

0:22:14.320,0:22:18.720
um you’re not gonna find as many

0:22:16.240,0:22:21.360
bargains but

0:22:18.720,0:22:22.960
you may find that oddball item that

0:22:21.360,0:22:24.240
you’ve been looking for that you won’t

0:22:22.960,0:22:26.480
find anywhere else because you’re

0:22:24.240,0:22:28.559
drawing people from all around the world

0:22:26.480,0:22:29.520
not just our country but from all around

0:22:28.559,0:22:31.760
the world

0:22:29.520,0:22:33.360
at some of these big shows like the new

0:22:31.760,0:22:36.000
york comic con which

0:22:33.360,0:22:38.559
has grown to the point where it’s kind

0:22:36.000,0:22:40.640
of overshadowing the san diego comic-con

0:22:38.559,0:22:42.159
which has been the premier show that

0:22:40.640,0:22:45.440
everyone’s wanted to go to for

0:22:42.159,0:22:47.600
decades uh so that’s the advantage to

0:22:45.440,0:22:50.080
going to one of those big major shows

0:22:47.600,0:22:51.760
is you will get a cross-section of

0:22:50.080,0:22:53.360
everything from around the world and

0:22:51.760,0:22:54.000
dealers who you might not normally see

0:22:53.360,0:22:56.720
at the smaller

0:22:54.000,0:22:58.640
venues yeah what about the convention

0:22:56.720,0:22:59.280
exclusives at these big comic-con

0:22:58.640,0:23:00.960
conventions

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are they something that a collector is

0:23:00.960,0:23:06.159
that an entry point for a collector

0:23:02.880,0:23:07.760
or is that gimmicky more than a real

0:23:06.159,0:23:10.080
collectible

0:23:07.760,0:23:11.679
boy that’s that’s a tough line to walk

0:23:10.080,0:23:13.440
because

0:23:11.679,0:23:14.880
you know as well as i do being a

0:23:13.440,0:23:17.039
completist

0:23:14.880,0:23:18.960
it’s tough to pass those up because

0:23:17.039,0:23:21.200
where else are you gonna find them

0:23:18.960,0:23:22.080
uh you know when you see those con

0:23:21.200,0:23:26.799
exclusives

0:23:22.080,0:23:31.679
and i mean my desire for them is always

0:23:26.799,0:23:35.280
mixed with how cool is the item actually

0:23:31.679,0:23:39.120
uh you know i can i can

0:23:35.280,0:23:40.080
maybe let one go if it’s not necessarily

0:23:39.120,0:23:42.559
something i would

0:23:40.080,0:23:43.120
collect you know on the on the regular

0:23:42.559,0:23:45.200
uh

0:23:43.120,0:23:47.200
i’m a big spider-man fan so spider-man

0:23:45.200,0:23:50.320
is one of my my weak spots

0:23:47.200,0:23:52.240
so i i do like spider-man villains and

0:23:50.320,0:23:54.400
you know characters but if you’re gonna

0:23:52.240,0:23:54.960
give me like the fifth jay jonah jameson

0:23:54.400,0:23:56.799
figure

0:23:54.960,0:23:59.279
as a con exclusive i’m probably gonna

0:23:56.799,0:24:00.559
pass right right

0:23:59.279,0:24:02.400
well that was all we have for this

0:24:00.559,0:24:05.279
segment stay with us we’ll be back

0:24:02.400,0:24:06.640
in a minute and talk about what the

0:24:05.279,0:24:09.190
importance of gaming

0:24:06.640,0:24:15.829
is for teens

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for over seven years the second sith

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both on the web and on discord

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the second civ empire is more than your

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typical gaming group

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we’re family join us on the star forge

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server

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for nightly events such as operations

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flash points world boss hunts star wars

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guild lottery and much more

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notice on the web today just watching

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star wars http://www.the2ndsithempire.com

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welcome back to insights into teens this

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is episode 100

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fun and games with dan so games have an

0:25:27.919,0:25:32.559
important part in our lives

0:25:29.679,0:25:34.000
they they bring the family together they

0:25:32.559,0:25:35.039
bring the friends together like dan had

0:25:34.000,0:25:38.400
mentioned

0:25:35.039,0:25:41.039
they give us some some camaraderie

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and and you can even learn from games to

0:25:41.039,0:25:44.880
a certain extent

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so we had you had gone out and done some

0:25:44.880,0:25:47.760
research on this

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why don’t you tell us about what your

0:25:47.760,0:25:54.159
findings were in your research

0:25:50.240,0:25:57.159
okay so um this research comes

0:25:54.159,0:25:58.960
from a site that we haven’t used called

0:25:57.159,0:26:02.320
yourmom.com

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uh i’m sorry

0:26:02.320,0:26:05.919
i’m sorry i had to get that out it

0:26:05.360,0:26:09.440
actually is

0:26:05.919,0:26:11.840
you are mom dot com not your mom

0:26:09.440,0:26:11.840
but okay

0:26:14.640,0:26:20.960
sorry um this is the fun in gaines

0:26:18.880,0:26:25.039
podcast so that’s okay

0:26:20.960,0:26:28.720
okay okay so on to the research so

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games are games are key

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to the person to the personal

0:26:30.960,0:26:35.200
development of youth during adolescence

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and all for a number of benefits

0:26:35.200,0:26:38.480
playing games allows young people to

0:26:37.039,0:26:40.559
learn and have fun

0:26:38.480,0:26:41.679
games can also be used as a means of

0:26:40.559,0:26:45.679
distraction and

0:26:41.679,0:26:46.880
personal growth the most popular games

0:26:45.679,0:26:49.840
for teens are those

0:26:46.880,0:26:52.000
that provide challenges to the mind some

0:26:49.840,0:26:55.520
examples are strategy games puzzle

0:26:52.000,0:26:57.919
games like tetris candy crush

0:26:55.520,0:26:59.120
to zoom to zoom board games like

0:26:57.919,0:27:01.440
monopoly clue

0:26:59.120,0:27:02.640
and the game of life and word games

0:27:01.440,0:27:06.159
likes categories

0:27:02.640,0:27:08.960
scrabble words with friends

0:27:06.159,0:27:08.960
and boggle

0:27:09.200,0:27:16.559
um games are are truly a privileged

0:27:13.520,0:27:18.159
tool that allows for the the development

0:27:16.559,0:27:19.919
of a positive attitude that can

0:27:18.159,0:27:20.960
accompany teens for the rest of their

0:27:19.919,0:27:24.559
lives

0:27:20.960,0:27:27.919
playing games combines combines pleasure

0:27:24.559,0:27:32.000
participation creativity and experience

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so damn would you agree that

0:27:32.000,0:27:36.399
these benefits or benefits that you can

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get from board games

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absolutely um along with that

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i think um just the idea of

0:27:43.200,0:27:46.640
some of these games where you’re

0:27:44.480,0:27:50.159
utilizing strategy you have to use

0:27:46.640,0:27:53.360
logic and forethought all of those are

0:27:50.159,0:27:56.399
great skills for teens to have

0:27:53.360,0:27:57.760
um going further into their life just

0:27:56.399,0:28:00.000
with life lessons

0:27:57.760,0:28:02.320
it keep teaches you creative thinking

0:28:00.000,0:28:04.080
and abstract thinking um

0:28:02.320,0:28:05.919
as well as sometimes teaching you

0:28:04.080,0:28:08.880
history and basics like

0:28:05.919,0:28:10.080
finance and monopoly yeah that’s a very

0:28:08.880,0:28:12.559
good point

0:28:10.080,0:28:13.360
now the the research that was done

0:28:12.559,0:28:16.080
suggests

0:28:13.360,0:28:16.960
that teens want games that give them a

0:28:16.080,0:28:19.360
challenge

0:28:16.960,0:28:21.679
do you find that to be the case in your

0:28:19.360,0:28:24.000
experience

0:28:21.679,0:28:25.039
oh yeah yeah because if something’s too

0:28:24.000,0:28:28.240
easy

0:28:25.039,0:28:29.600
you’re going to get bored with it and

0:28:28.240,0:28:32.080
how long is that interest going to be

0:28:29.600,0:28:34.000
held uh the game has to be challenging

0:28:32.080,0:28:36.480
it has to push you a little bit

0:28:34.000,0:28:37.679
has to move you out of your comfort zone

0:28:36.480,0:28:39.200
um

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and i think those are really important

0:28:39.200,0:28:44.000
elements for any successful board game

0:28:41.840,0:28:45.840
are besides the ones that we listed here

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are there any other games

0:28:45.840,0:28:50.480
that you’re familiar with at this time

0:28:48.240,0:28:51.600
that you think would be ideal games that

0:28:50.480,0:28:54.399
you would suggest for

0:28:51.600,0:28:56.799
teens that provide that level of

0:28:54.399,0:28:58.960
challenge combined with that

0:28:56.799,0:29:01.840
that additional benefit of an

0:28:58.960,0:29:04.159
educational experience

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there’s a lot of really good um

0:29:04.159,0:29:08.320
historical

0:29:05.120,0:29:10.000
battle games out there right now some of

0:29:08.320,0:29:11.200
which have lasted for a couple of

0:29:10.000,0:29:13.760
decades

0:29:11.200,0:29:15.600
there was a series called the game

0:29:13.760,0:29:16.720
master series by milton bradley which is

0:29:15.600,0:29:19.440
one of the first ones that

0:29:16.720,0:29:20.720
i started with and that was back in the

0:29:19.440,0:29:23.919
80s and that was

0:29:20.720,0:29:25.440
you know our early gaming days but as

0:29:23.919,0:29:27.039
you can probably see in the background

0:29:25.440,0:29:29.679
there we have uh

0:29:27.039,0:29:30.640
access allies which is the world war ii

0:29:29.679,0:29:32.960
version

0:29:30.640,0:29:35.760
which helps you recreate some of the

0:29:32.960,0:29:38.880
famous battle scenarios of that era

0:29:35.760,0:29:40.240
um but there’s also ones that were civil

0:29:38.880,0:29:42.240
war oriented

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there were revolutionary war oriented

0:29:42.240,0:29:47.440
ones that teach about history

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uh and again we can go back to just

0:29:47.440,0:29:51.840
things like word building and things

0:29:50.000,0:29:54.000
like scrabble and

0:29:51.840,0:29:55.120
as as madison mentioned boggle in some

0:29:54.000,0:29:57.840
of those games that

0:29:55.120,0:29:59.200
teach you know basic spelling

0:29:57.840,0:30:02.720
memorization

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mind strength uh all very important for

0:30:02.720,0:30:09.039
a young mind that’s growing and learning

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so do you think it’s possible that you

0:30:09.039,0:30:12.640
can play

0:30:09.840,0:30:12.640
too many games

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well i think like anything moderation is

0:30:15.760,0:30:19.039
the key um

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i feel the same way about video games

0:30:19.039,0:30:22.240
i’ve never felt

0:30:20.399,0:30:24.080
negatively about video games but if

0:30:22.240,0:30:25.760
you’re spending

0:30:24.080,0:30:27.919
more time on that than you are in the

0:30:25.760,0:30:28.960
rest of your life you’ve got to create a

0:30:27.919,0:30:31.760
balance

0:30:28.960,0:30:33.200
and the same thing with board games um

0:30:31.760,0:30:36.240
you know you want to

0:30:33.200,0:30:39.360
have moderation and you know not

0:30:36.240,0:30:39.679
dedicate hours and hours out of a day to

0:30:39.360,0:30:42.559
it

0:30:39.679,0:30:43.679
but i have in the past with some of

0:30:42.559,0:30:45.360
these other games

0:30:43.679,0:30:47.279
some of them can last you know four or

0:30:45.360,0:30:49.520
five hours

0:30:47.279,0:30:50.720
but are you gonna do it every night

0:30:49.520,0:30:53.279
because that would be

0:30:50.720,0:30:55.679
you know pushing it yeah that that that

0:30:53.279,0:30:58.240
could be dangerous i do remember

0:30:55.679,0:31:01.279
uh our six and eight hour star wars

0:30:58.240,0:31:01.279
miniature weekend

0:31:03.360,0:31:06.480
that’s not something you would want to

0:31:05.360,0:31:08.960
have as your

0:31:06.480,0:31:10.399
life going you know every night no no

0:31:08.960,0:31:11.919
not unless you’re getting paid to do it

0:31:10.399,0:31:15.039
as a play tester or something

0:31:11.919,0:31:16.559
right right um so let’s you know we

0:31:15.039,0:31:19.840
talked about a couple of

0:31:16.559,0:31:23.440
mostly games that are

0:31:19.840,0:31:25.840
group involved games um but there’s

0:31:23.440,0:31:27.679
there’s benefits to individual games too

0:31:25.840,0:31:28.880
especially given the current environment

0:31:27.679,0:31:30.080
that we’re in where we can’t all get

0:31:28.880,0:31:31.840
together

0:31:30.080,0:31:33.519
are there any games out there that you

0:31:31.840,0:31:34.880
could suggest to somebody who doesn’t

0:31:33.519,0:31:37.440
have that advantage of

0:31:34.880,0:31:38.880
of getting together with someone i’m

0:31:37.440,0:31:40.240
really glad you brought that up because

0:31:38.880,0:31:41.600
that was going to be a point that i was

0:31:40.240,0:31:42.320
going to bring up at the end of this as

0:31:41.600,0:31:45.360
well

0:31:42.320,0:31:47.679
uh with the current environment it’s

0:31:45.360,0:31:49.039
very difficult to have game nights and

0:31:47.679,0:31:49.919
to be able to get together with my

0:31:49.039,0:31:52.399
friends and i’m sure

0:31:49.919,0:31:53.519
everyone is experiencing the same thing

0:31:52.399,0:31:56.320
so

0:31:53.519,0:31:59.200
what do you do if you want to continue

0:31:56.320,0:32:01.039
to play a board game

0:31:59.200,0:32:02.880
what can you do on your own are there

0:32:01.039,0:32:05.600
solo board games out there and yes

0:32:02.880,0:32:06.640
there are uh some of the ones that i was

0:32:05.600,0:32:10.000
able to find

0:32:06.640,0:32:11.120
were um things like the escape the room

0:32:10.000,0:32:14.080
series

0:32:11.120,0:32:15.279
uh it’s not easy to do those on your own

0:32:14.080,0:32:17.360
but you can

0:32:15.279,0:32:19.200
um there’s another great series called

0:32:17.360,0:32:22.880
choose your own adventure

0:32:19.200,0:32:23.360
which is by z man and those are based on

0:32:22.880,0:32:25.600
those

0:32:23.360,0:32:27.039
books that you and i probably remember

0:32:25.600,0:32:28.559
more than anybody joe

0:32:27.039,0:32:30.240
where you would page through the book

0:32:28.559,0:32:32.080
and you’re reading it and at the bottom

0:32:30.240,0:32:34.080
it would give you a choice

0:32:32.080,0:32:36.159
of what page you would go to if you

0:32:34.080,0:32:37.360
chose this and what page you would go to

0:32:36.159,0:32:39.760
if you chose that

0:32:37.360,0:32:40.880
so they’ve created solo games in that

0:32:39.760,0:32:42.399
fashion

0:32:40.880,0:32:45.120
and i did want to mention one other

0:32:42.399,0:32:45.840
thing that i discovered this past year

0:32:45.120,0:32:48.880
because

0:32:45.840,0:32:49.200
again i really wanted to find something

0:32:48.880,0:32:52.640
that

0:32:49.200,0:32:55.440
i could do on my own um

0:32:52.640,0:32:56.720
without having to do you know a

0:32:55.440,0:33:00.240
get-together

0:32:56.720,0:33:01.679
and i found on kickstarter

0:33:00.240,0:33:03.360
and i’m very excited about this it’s

0:33:01.679,0:33:06.880
going to be coming out in may

0:33:03.360,0:33:09.519
a game called final girl where you

0:33:06.880,0:33:10.960
play against the game a solo it’s a solo

0:33:09.519,0:33:13.039
version of a game

0:33:10.960,0:33:14.080
where you are the final girl in a horror

0:33:13.039,0:33:16.080
movie

0:33:14.080,0:33:17.120
and there are different scenarios with

0:33:16.080,0:33:20.799
different types

0:33:17.120,0:33:23.519
of uh you know

0:33:20.799,0:33:25.200
axe murderers and horror characters that

0:33:23.519,0:33:26.320
are very similar to like your freddy

0:33:25.200,0:33:28.720
krueger’s and

0:33:26.320,0:33:31.279
jason’s and things like that and you

0:33:28.720,0:33:34.399
have your final girl who’s trying to

0:33:31.279,0:33:35.600
rescue people around the lake or around

0:33:34.399,0:33:38.640
the house

0:33:35.600,0:33:39.360
while being chased by this maniac and

0:33:38.640,0:33:41.760
it’s you

0:33:39.360,0:33:42.640
against the clock and against this

0:33:41.760,0:33:44.880
character

0:33:42.640,0:33:45.840
and it’s a solo adventure and it sounds

0:33:44.880,0:33:48.880
like it’s going to be

0:33:45.840,0:33:51.279
fantastic um and that’s coming out

0:33:48.880,0:33:53.840
may of this year well that’s very cool

0:33:51.279,0:33:57.039
that does that sounds very interesting

0:33:53.840,0:33:59.279
so i know we’ve done um

0:33:57.039,0:34:01.279
zoom calls a lot to to keep the family

0:33:59.279,0:34:02.320
together special occasions stuff like

0:34:01.279,0:34:06.080
that

0:34:02.320,0:34:08.800
and you know whenever we get together

0:34:06.080,0:34:10.720
as a family we always play a game you

0:34:08.800,0:34:12.960
know thanks to you

0:34:10.720,0:34:15.440
pretty much you’ve always got games with

0:34:12.960,0:34:18.800
you whenever we get together

0:34:15.440,0:34:19.359
so on zoom there have been some options

0:34:18.800,0:34:22.159
that we’ve

0:34:19.359,0:34:24.240
been able to translate that into another

0:34:22.159,0:34:26.480
entertaining experience do you have any

0:34:24.240,0:34:26.879
suggestions like that for people who

0:34:26.480,0:34:28.720
can’t

0:34:26.879,0:34:30.639
get together but still want to play

0:34:28.720,0:34:32.639
group games like that

0:34:30.639,0:34:34.000
where they can sort of capture some of

0:34:32.639,0:34:37.040
that magic any any

0:34:34.000,0:34:37.040
suggestions on that

0:34:37.520,0:34:40.480
i’m trying to think of what some of the

0:34:38.960,0:34:41.119
ones where i think there’s one that was

0:34:40.480,0:34:42.800
called

0:34:41.119,0:34:46.079
and and forgive me if i get this wrong

0:34:42.800,0:34:46.079
jack box yes

0:34:46.839,0:34:51.040
um

0:34:48.720,0:34:52.320
they they don’t just have one type of

0:34:51.040,0:34:55.440
game and it’s like

0:34:52.320,0:34:58.480
a multiplayer uh online

0:34:55.440,0:35:00.640
you know participation but

0:34:58.480,0:35:02.640
there’s a whole variety of different

0:35:00.640,0:35:05.599
games that you can choose from

0:35:02.640,0:35:07.200
and then you accumulate points by either

0:35:05.599,0:35:08.320
winning or succeeding in each one of

0:35:07.200,0:35:09.760
those games

0:35:08.320,0:35:11.599
and then you get to do something at the

0:35:09.760,0:35:12.079
end with those accumulated points and

0:35:11.599,0:35:15.040
it’s just

0:35:12.079,0:35:16.880
that’s been a blast we’ve done that

0:35:15.040,0:35:19.359
already

0:35:16.880,0:35:20.880
sitting in the same room on our phones

0:35:19.359,0:35:21.440
so you could easily do it from a

0:35:20.880,0:35:24.720
distance

0:35:21.440,0:35:26.000
remotely i i also heard this vicious

0:35:24.720,0:35:28.320
rumor that you

0:35:26.000,0:35:31.760
uh you play words with friends with

0:35:28.320,0:35:34.960
someone from our house too

0:35:31.760,0:35:38.400
those rumors can be confirmed um i

0:35:34.960,0:35:40.480
i am rather fond of that uh there

0:35:38.400,0:35:41.760
are a handful of people that i do play

0:35:40.480,0:35:44.400
with that with

0:35:41.760,0:35:44.880
um and i have found that to be a lot of

0:35:44.400,0:35:47.359
fun

0:35:44.880,0:35:48.640
and it takes me back to my scrabble

0:35:47.359,0:35:51.599
playing days

0:35:48.640,0:35:52.079
and you know it’s it can be rough it can

0:35:51.599,0:35:54.160
be

0:35:52.079,0:35:55.280
brutal i’ve taken some really hard

0:35:54.160,0:35:57.520
losses

0:35:55.280,0:35:58.480
um some humiliating losses some would

0:35:57.520,0:36:01.440
say so

0:35:58.480,0:36:03.520
i’ve learned i’ve gotten better but it’s

0:36:01.440,0:36:05.839
it’s a lot of fun i i enjoy it

0:36:03.520,0:36:07.359
that’s great so we’re going to take a

0:36:05.839,0:36:10.800
quick break we’re going to come back

0:36:07.359,0:36:13.119
and we’re going to do a deep dive on uh

0:36:10.800,0:36:14.160
dan and his history and a little bit

0:36:13.119,0:36:17.680
more detail

0:36:14.160,0:36:26.820
on what his gaming uh prowess

0:36:17.680,0:36:29.440
really reflects so we’ll be right back

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welcome back to insights into teens

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we’re talking fun

0:37:34.480,0:37:40.400
and games with dan so

0:37:37.760,0:37:42.640
deep dive on dan here i guess the first

0:37:40.400,0:37:44.640
question i have to ask is how old were

0:37:42.640,0:37:47.359
you when you started getting into gaming

0:37:44.640,0:37:47.359
and collecting

0:37:47.680,0:37:50.800
the actual collecting aspect of it

0:37:50.320,0:37:54.000
didn’t

0:37:50.800,0:37:57.119
happen until i reached college

0:37:54.000,0:38:00.560
and up until then i was

0:37:57.119,0:38:01.920
a very hardcore comic book and action

0:38:00.560,0:38:04.880
figure collector

0:38:01.920,0:38:05.920
and had an extensive collection of the

0:38:04.880,0:38:08.240
marvels

0:38:05.920,0:38:09.200
dating back into the 1960s all the major

0:38:08.240,0:38:11.200
titles

0:38:09.200,0:38:12.960
and all of the action figures that had

0:38:11.200,0:38:13.520
been produced at that time and it was a

0:38:12.960,0:38:16.960
much

0:38:13.520,0:38:19.520
more meager selection during the 70s

0:38:16.960,0:38:20.720
and 80s than it is now where it is just

0:38:19.520,0:38:22.320
a plethora of

0:38:20.720,0:38:24.400
choices out there to make as far as

0:38:22.320,0:38:26.560
action figures um

0:38:24.400,0:38:27.920
but when we got to college uh we did

0:38:26.560,0:38:31.680
there were two things that

0:38:27.920,0:38:34.880
i became involved in one of them was

0:38:31.680,0:38:36.320
the wonderful world of d

0:38:34.880,0:38:38.480
which i got to play for the first time

0:38:36.320,0:38:40.320
with a group because growing up none of

0:38:38.480,0:38:42.240
my friends knew how to play

0:38:40.320,0:38:43.440
so it’s very difficult to learn to play

0:38:42.240,0:38:45.680
d d on your own

0:38:43.440,0:38:47.200
when you have no one else to play with

0:38:45.680,0:38:50.000
so that was the one thing that

0:38:47.200,0:38:51.280
i kind of became involved in and then

0:38:50.000,0:38:52.720
the other one was the

0:38:51.280,0:38:55.200
like i mentioned earlier the milton

0:38:52.720,0:38:58.480
bradley game master series

0:38:55.200,0:39:01.119
which were all based on classic eras

0:38:58.480,0:39:03.119
of classic battles throughout history

0:39:01.119,0:39:05.040
they had conquest the of the empire

0:39:03.119,0:39:07.760
which was the roman empire’s

0:39:05.040,0:39:08.400
uh attempt to take over the world there

0:39:07.760,0:39:10.480
was

0:39:08.400,0:39:12.160
axis and allies which was the world war

0:39:10.480,0:39:15.440
ii version

0:39:12.160,0:39:17.520
there was shogun which was the feudal

0:39:15.440,0:39:19.599
japan version

0:39:17.520,0:39:21.680
and they had a one another one called

0:39:19.599,0:39:25.520
broadsides and boarding parties

0:39:21.680,0:39:28.400
which was a tall ship uh

0:39:25.520,0:39:29.200
sort of a pirate kind of version where

0:39:28.400,0:39:31.680
you would

0:39:29.200,0:39:32.560
chase each other around in ships on the

0:39:31.680,0:39:33.920
board

0:39:32.560,0:39:35.920
and you would get to a point where you

0:39:33.920,0:39:37.520
would do a broadsides with each other if

0:39:35.920,0:39:39.599
you were next to each other and then

0:39:37.520,0:39:42.240
you had characters that could actually

0:39:39.599,0:39:44.320
attack each other from the ships um so

0:39:42.240,0:39:45.760
those types of military strategy games

0:39:44.320,0:39:49.599
were a big part

0:39:45.760,0:39:52.880
of my formative game playing years

0:39:49.599,0:39:54.960
very interesting so um

0:39:52.880,0:39:57.680
what games were popular when you were a

0:39:54.960,0:40:00.079
teen

0:39:57.680,0:40:00.079
um

0:40:01.359,0:40:04.880
just the classics i think when i was a

0:40:03.280,0:40:06.079
teen i was trying to go back and look at

0:40:04.880,0:40:08.160
some of the dates

0:40:06.079,0:40:10.400
so that i could be a little bit more

0:40:08.160,0:40:13.760
sure about when i was a teen

0:40:10.400,0:40:16.000
um so other than like

0:40:13.760,0:40:16.960
monopoly and scrabble and some of those

0:40:16.000,0:40:20.880
other ones

0:40:16.960,0:40:21.200
um again really what kind of caught our

0:40:20.880,0:40:23.280
eye

0:40:21.200,0:40:24.480
and what came into popularity during

0:40:23.280,0:40:26.800
that era

0:40:24.480,0:40:28.000
were games like trivial pursuit which

0:40:26.800,0:40:30.960
was absolutely

0:40:28.000,0:40:32.480
huge when i was um getting out of high

0:40:30.960,0:40:34.400
school going into college

0:40:32.480,0:40:36.160
uh the late 70s early 80s i think the

0:40:34.400,0:40:38.240
first trivia pursuit games came out

0:40:36.160,0:40:41.599
actually in the early 80s um

0:40:38.240,0:40:45.680
but those were were so huge um

0:40:41.599,0:40:48.480
games like uh scattergories and taboo

0:40:45.680,0:40:50.000
and some of those were just immensely

0:40:48.480,0:40:51.940
popular at all the parties and things

0:40:50.000,0:40:54.400
that we would go to um

0:40:51.940,0:40:56.640
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0:40:54.400,0:40:59.119
other board games i know my sisters and

0:40:56.640,0:41:02.160
i because i had two younger sisters

0:40:59.119,0:41:05.520
we would play you know life and

0:41:02.160,0:41:07.520
a game called careers which is

0:41:05.520,0:41:09.680
basically you choose an occupation and

0:41:07.520,0:41:12.000
you try to become successful at it and

0:41:09.680,0:41:12.960
it was very straightforward kind of like

0:41:12.000,0:41:16.319
a little bit

0:41:12.960,0:41:17.599
more involved than life uh but it was a

0:41:16.319,0:41:19.920
lot of fun

0:41:17.599,0:41:21.280
um and then just some of the classics

0:41:19.920,0:41:25.040
like i said like a

0:41:21.280,0:41:28.000
clue and uh monopoly and life

0:41:25.040,0:41:28.800
and some of those other ones interesting

0:41:28.000,0:41:31.920
so

0:41:28.800,0:41:36.160
what is the most bizarre but

0:41:31.920,0:41:39.839
family-friendly game that you’ve played

0:41:36.160,0:41:44.400
okay one of the ones

0:41:39.839,0:41:47.680
was the green ghost game

0:41:44.400,0:41:48.000
which came out in the 60s during a time

0:41:47.680,0:41:49.760
when

0:41:48.000,0:41:52.400
things like the monsters and the adams

0:41:49.760,0:41:54.400
family were very popular

0:41:52.400,0:41:55.440
and it was basically you played it in

0:41:54.400,0:41:58.319
the dark

0:41:55.440,0:41:59.760
the game board glowed a big green ghost

0:41:58.319,0:42:01.280
in the center of it glowed that’s what

0:41:59.760,0:42:03.280
you would spin

0:42:01.280,0:42:04.480
and then you had to go around the board

0:42:03.280,0:42:06.240
and that had

0:42:04.480,0:42:08.079
the board was raised about three or four

0:42:06.240,0:42:08.640
inches and there were boxes underneath

0:42:08.079,0:42:10.560
it

0:42:08.640,0:42:11.680
and you were in the dark and you would

0:42:10.560,0:42:14.000
have to reach in

0:42:11.680,0:42:15.280
and identify what the items were that

0:42:14.000,0:42:16.960
were in it kind of like the classic

0:42:15.280,0:42:19.040
halloween party game

0:42:16.960,0:42:20.160
uh that was a weird one there was

0:42:19.040,0:42:23.520
another one called

0:42:20.160,0:42:26.079
uh kaboom which was a way of

0:42:23.520,0:42:29.119
blowing up taking turns pumping on a

0:42:26.079,0:42:30.319
balloon that was on a dynamite shack

0:42:29.119,0:42:34.480
and you would go around the board and

0:42:30.319,0:42:37.760
try not to get blown up by the balloon

0:42:34.480,0:42:38.560
that’s funny yeah there was there were

0:42:37.760,0:42:39.920
some great ones

0:42:38.560,0:42:41.680
and then of course there was the pie in

0:42:39.920,0:42:43.280
the face one which not really a board

0:42:41.680,0:42:44.319
game but that was a very bizarre game

0:42:43.280,0:42:46.000
too where you would

0:42:44.319,0:42:47.520
take turns twisting the dials and you

0:42:46.000,0:42:48.319
would get a pie in the face if you got

0:42:47.520,0:42:50.400
it wrong

0:42:48.319,0:42:51.839
well nowadays you’d never see a game

0:42:50.400,0:42:56.160
like that now i mean

0:42:51.839,0:42:56.160
it wouldn’t pass like safety inspections

0:42:57.280,0:43:00.640
what’s our next question so was there

0:42:59.440,0:43:03.680
any

0:43:00.640,0:43:05.040
was there a particular theme of a

0:43:03.680,0:43:06.960
particular theme

0:43:05.040,0:43:09.359
of gaming or gaming type that you were

0:43:06.960,0:43:12.400
interested in

0:43:09.359,0:43:16.400
well i really liked the um

0:43:12.400,0:43:19.520
competitive uh military style games

0:43:16.400,0:43:22.480
uh games like stratego um

0:43:19.520,0:43:25.440
were a lot of fun and then we got more

0:43:22.480,0:43:27.440
involved in like battleship

0:43:25.440,0:43:28.640
then they came out with sub search which

0:43:27.440,0:43:32.319
was even better

0:43:28.640,0:43:33.520
joe if you remember star wars did a

0:43:32.319,0:43:36.560
version of that

0:43:33.520,0:43:38.319
where it was three tiers of ships yeah

0:43:36.560,0:43:40.240
and they just said it was like layers of

0:43:38.319,0:43:43.119
space instead of like underwater

0:43:40.240,0:43:45.040
yeah but such a great idea to like have

0:43:43.119,0:43:47.440
a three-dimensional like

0:43:45.040,0:43:48.640
battleship kind of game it always struck

0:43:47.440,0:43:50.319
me as though they were trying to

0:43:48.640,0:43:52.800
recapture like uh

0:43:50.319,0:43:54.400
three-dimensional chess from from star

0:43:52.800,0:43:58.160
trek with something like portrait

0:43:54.400,0:43:59.839
yeah yeah yeah absolutely so

0:43:58.160,0:44:01.680
we talk a lot about we’ve talked a lot

0:43:59.839,0:44:03.680
about classic games

0:44:01.680,0:44:05.040
are there modern games that you play now

0:44:03.680,0:44:06.000
like do you would you go out and buy a

0:44:05.040,0:44:07.599
game now

0:44:06.000,0:44:09.280
you know are they still making good

0:44:07.599,0:44:11.680
games oh they’re

0:44:09.280,0:44:12.480
they are they are making some great ones

0:44:11.680,0:44:14.079
um

0:44:12.480,0:44:16.160
what besides the ones that we mentioned

0:44:14.079,0:44:18.560
already uh there’s a couple that i do

0:44:16.160,0:44:21.200
want to give like honorable mentions to

0:44:18.560,0:44:22.000
and i i feel really bad because i don’t

0:44:21.200,0:44:24.960
have one of these

0:44:22.000,0:44:26.640
at home but it’s one that we’ve played

0:44:24.960,0:44:28.000
all the time that we ran the underground

0:44:26.640,0:44:28.960
layer and now we have a couple of

0:44:28.000,0:44:32.000
friends that have it

0:44:28.960,0:44:35.200
it’s a game called elfin land

0:44:32.000,0:44:36.000
um it’s a semi-cooperative game where

0:44:35.200,0:44:37.839
you are a young

0:44:36.000,0:44:39.680
elf going out into the world and

0:44:37.839,0:44:41.440
traveling and trying to visit as many

0:44:39.680,0:44:44.720
towns as you can

0:44:41.440,0:44:47.440
and it’s a lot trickier than it sounds

0:44:44.720,0:44:47.440
because you have

0:44:48.319,0:44:52.319
you to travel so it’s it’s a really

0:44:50.800,0:44:54.560
interesting concept

0:44:52.319,0:44:56.240
another game that we’ve enjoyed recently

0:44:54.560,0:44:58.640
was the castle panic

0:44:56.240,0:45:00.079
series which is now they also have a

0:44:58.640,0:45:02.800
star trek panic

0:45:00.079,0:45:05.280
um they have uh you know a bunch of

0:45:02.800,0:45:08.640
other ones like munchkin panic

0:45:05.280,0:45:10.880
uh and it’s uh again a semi-cooperative

0:45:08.640,0:45:13.839
game which we seem to be drawn to

0:45:10.880,0:45:15.200
uh and you and your teammates try to

0:45:13.839,0:45:17.359
prevent

0:45:15.200,0:45:18.720
in the case of castle panic goblins and

0:45:17.359,0:45:19.760
orcs and things from destroying your

0:45:18.720,0:45:22.079
castle

0:45:19.760,0:45:24.480
in the star trek sense you prevent the

0:45:22.079,0:45:26.480
romulans and klingons from attacking you

0:45:24.480,0:45:28.079
um so that’s a really fun one that’s a

0:45:26.480,0:45:30.160
relatively new one that’s only been like

0:45:28.079,0:45:32.560
the last 10 years that’s been out

0:45:30.160,0:45:33.599
uh there’s another one called formula d

0:45:32.560,0:45:37.440
racing

0:45:33.599,0:45:40.079
which is a huge game board

0:45:37.440,0:45:41.760
with race cars on it and as you roll

0:45:40.079,0:45:44.480
different sizes of dice

0:45:41.760,0:45:46.079
depending on what gear your car is in

0:45:44.480,0:45:47.599
and you have to change your dice

0:45:46.079,0:45:49.520
when you come around a corner to slow

0:45:47.599,0:45:51.440
down um that’s been

0:45:49.520,0:45:53.200
loads of fun we have a lot of i am

0:45:51.440,0:45:56.240
infamous for crashing my car

0:45:53.200,0:45:58.400
more times than not and uh i don’t win

0:45:56.240,0:46:01.040
very often

0:45:58.400,0:46:03.760
and and knowing you that must be painful

0:46:01.040,0:46:03.760
that you don’t win

0:46:04.079,0:46:09.520
no comment i’m a gracious loser

0:46:11.839,0:46:17.520
okay so our next question is what do you

0:46:14.319,0:46:17.520
think makes a good game

0:46:17.920,0:46:22.240
well i think we touched upon some of

0:46:19.680,0:46:24.640
that earlier in that

0:46:22.240,0:46:26.240
you need to have a challenge and you

0:46:24.640,0:46:28.319
need to push your limits a little bit

0:46:26.240,0:46:31.520
and make it a little bit exciting

0:46:28.319,0:46:34.000
there has to be um

0:46:31.520,0:46:35.680
some kind of either reward that you’re

0:46:34.000,0:46:38.079
striving for

0:46:35.680,0:46:40.079
either cooperatively or individually and

0:46:38.079,0:46:42.800
there has to be some kind of

0:46:40.079,0:46:43.520
threat or time or things moving against

0:46:42.800,0:46:46.640
you

0:46:43.520,0:46:50.240
that’s going to cause you to have to act

0:46:46.640,0:46:51.599
and i think that represents a lot of

0:46:50.240,0:46:54.880
what we have going on in life

0:46:51.599,0:46:58.400
too so isn’t that the truth so

0:46:54.880,0:47:01.440
based on those qualities have you ever

0:46:58.400,0:47:01.440
made your own game

0:47:01.760,0:47:05.040
you know it’s going to surprise you but

0:47:03.040,0:47:05.920
i have not that’s something that i

0:47:05.040,0:47:09.119
haven’t done

0:47:05.920,0:47:12.240
i have helped some friends with games

0:47:09.119,0:47:15.200
um in design

0:47:12.240,0:47:16.160
level stuff where they needed like

0:47:15.200,0:47:18.160
flavor text

0:47:16.160,0:47:19.839
or character backgrounds and things like

0:47:18.160,0:47:22.559
that um

0:47:19.839,0:47:24.079
we did a whole series uh with a friend

0:47:22.559,0:47:26.400
of mine for a sci-fi

0:47:24.079,0:47:27.760
uh game that he hasn’t been able to

0:47:26.400,0:47:29.040
obtain rights to yet so i don’t really

0:47:27.760,0:47:31.040
want to talk about it

0:47:29.040,0:47:32.400
but each one of the individual

0:47:31.040,0:47:35.359
characters in the game that

0:47:32.400,0:47:37.119
popped up on a card had a backstory and

0:47:35.359,0:47:40.720
a reason why they were

0:47:37.119,0:47:41.680
criminals let’s say and had to

0:47:40.720,0:47:45.520
participate

0:47:41.680,0:47:45.520
in this competition

0:47:45.760,0:47:49.040
but it was uh it’s a it was a fun

0:47:48.079,0:47:51.119
experience

0:47:49.040,0:47:52.960
um and i i would like to do more of it

0:47:51.119,0:47:55.280
but probably from a writing

0:47:52.960,0:47:56.160
standpoint as opposed to design sure

0:47:55.280,0:47:58.800
sure

0:47:56.160,0:47:59.280
that makes sense um so are there any

0:47:58.800,0:48:06.880
games

0:47:59.280,0:48:10.079
you think are underrated

0:48:06.880,0:48:13.520
that’s a tough one there are

0:48:10.079,0:48:15.680
um a lot of games that we’ve really

0:48:13.520,0:48:17.359
loved at the underground layer that

0:48:15.680,0:48:19.520
we’ve played

0:48:17.359,0:48:21.200
multiple times and i i will say that one

0:48:19.520,0:48:22.079
of the ones that we really fell in love

0:48:21.200,0:48:25.599
with

0:48:22.079,0:48:26.240
was roll for it um it’s such an easy

0:48:25.599,0:48:29.680
game

0:48:26.240,0:48:31.760
to learn and the box that it comes in

0:48:29.680,0:48:34.880
you could use it as a travel game

0:48:31.760,0:48:36.000
um it was a great game that we used to

0:48:34.880,0:48:38.960
segue

0:48:36.000,0:48:41.040
into the larger game like while we were

0:48:38.960,0:48:43.680
waiting for everyone to show up

0:48:41.040,0:48:45.119
on a game night you could have like two

0:48:43.680,0:48:48.559
or three or four people

0:48:45.119,0:48:49.920
play roll for it and they would be able

0:48:48.559,0:48:51.280
to get a couple of games in before

0:48:49.920,0:48:52.559
someone else would even show up for the

0:48:51.280,0:48:55.119
bigger game

0:48:52.559,0:48:56.400
um whereas something like munchkin

0:48:55.119,0:48:58.720
that’s that’s an evening

0:48:56.400,0:48:59.520
and you’re gonna be there for a while so

0:48:58.720,0:49:03.040
buckle up

0:48:59.520,0:49:03.599
that is true absolutely true so if you

0:49:03.040,0:49:05.520
had

0:49:03.599,0:49:06.880
to to pick what is your gaming

0:49:05.520,0:49:09.760
preference as far as

0:49:06.880,0:49:11.200
type of game are you a card gamer a

0:49:09.760,0:49:14.160
board gamer do you like

0:49:11.200,0:49:15.280
team based stuff dice games miniatures

0:49:14.160,0:49:18.480
role-playing

0:49:15.280,0:49:20.079
what’s your number one pick

0:49:18.480,0:49:21.839
well that’s tough joke you know we’ve

0:49:20.079,0:49:24.160
run the gamut over the years

0:49:21.839,0:49:25.280
yeah and and it does seem to kind of go

0:49:24.160,0:49:28.559
in trends i mean

0:49:25.280,0:49:29.040
we were doing the um the miniatures

0:49:28.559,0:49:31.920
games

0:49:29.040,0:49:34.720
for a while there and were really heavy

0:49:31.920,0:49:37.040
into it and and by that same token

0:49:34.720,0:49:38.240
i played magic the gathering for many

0:49:37.040,0:49:41.200
years too and my

0:49:38.240,0:49:42.839
friends and i were really into that and

0:49:41.200,0:49:45.920
uh

0:49:42.839,0:49:47.760
what tells us when we

0:49:45.920,0:49:49.920
need to change gears and go to a

0:49:47.760,0:49:53.200
different you know type of game or

0:49:49.920,0:49:55.599
or entertainment um

0:49:53.200,0:49:56.720
i used to do video games too but i just

0:49:55.599,0:49:59.359
don’t have time

0:49:56.720,0:50:00.720
as much time for that and in video games

0:49:59.359,0:50:02.559
i i know that

0:50:00.720,0:50:04.000
you know we can do like multiplayer

0:50:02.559,0:50:05.119
online stuff now

0:50:04.000,0:50:06.800
but there’s something about sitting

0:50:05.119,0:50:08.400
around a table at a board game that

0:50:06.800,0:50:11.440
that’s a little bit different than

0:50:08.400,0:50:12.240
when you’re behind a monitor and i

0:50:11.440,0:50:14.800
really like

0:50:12.240,0:50:16.640
you know laughing with the friends and

0:50:14.800,0:50:19.359
exchanging jokes and

0:50:16.640,0:50:21.280
and making fun of their moves and and

0:50:19.359,0:50:24.640
stuff like that and

0:50:21.280,0:50:27.839
uh i forgot what the question was what

0:50:24.640,0:50:27.839
was the question

0:50:28.079,0:50:31.839
what type of game would you pick if you

0:50:30.000,0:50:34.800
could pick one

0:50:31.839,0:50:34.800
all right um

0:50:35.040,0:50:40.880
i would say would probably be one of the

0:50:38.240,0:50:41.359
like military strategy combat games

0:50:40.880,0:50:42.880
we’ve

0:50:41.359,0:50:45.119
really had a lot of fun with them over

0:50:42.880,0:50:47.359
the years um

0:50:45.119,0:50:49.200
it’s a step up from risk and i know we

0:50:47.359,0:50:51.040
didn’t talk about that yet but that’s

0:50:49.200,0:50:54.880
not one of my favorite games

0:50:51.040,0:50:56.400
um but i think the idea that

0:50:54.880,0:50:58.000
some of these game companies took it to

0:50:56.400,0:51:00.800
the next level

0:50:58.000,0:51:02.160
and really made them interesting and

0:51:00.800,0:51:04.000
involved

0:51:02.160,0:51:05.119
and gave you some great pieces to move

0:51:04.000,0:51:07.040
around the board because who doesn’t

0:51:05.119,0:51:10.079
love little plastic pieces

0:51:07.040,0:51:10.559
um it really changed changed the way

0:51:10.079,0:51:12.000
that we

0:51:10.559,0:51:13.839
we looked at games and what our

0:51:12.000,0:51:16.800
expectations were

0:51:13.839,0:51:17.280
and and those are the ones that i go to

0:51:16.800,0:51:20.319
okay

0:51:17.280,0:51:21.839
fair enough alrighty so

0:51:20.319,0:51:23.599
now we’re going to go back to the

0:51:21.839,0:51:27.520
collecting aspect so

0:51:23.599,0:51:27.520
what inspired you to start collecting

0:51:28.160,0:51:35.200
well madison my inspiration was

0:51:32.000,0:51:36.079
to originally to accumulate the stuff

0:51:35.200,0:51:38.559
that i loved

0:51:36.079,0:51:40.319
but also to try to make some money and

0:51:38.559,0:51:43.280
the reason i wanted to make some money

0:51:40.319,0:51:43.599
was because one year for christmas i did

0:51:43.280,0:51:46.800
not

0:51:43.599,0:51:47.359
get my lost and space robot that i had

0:51:46.800,0:51:50.000
asked for

0:51:47.359,0:51:51.520
for consecutive years and finally i

0:51:50.000,0:51:54.559
decided to myself

0:51:51.520,0:51:56.480
self i’m gonna buy it myself so i

0:51:54.559,0:51:57.359
started collecting things and selling

0:51:56.480,0:51:59.760
them

0:51:57.359,0:52:01.920
making money and tried to save up to buy

0:51:59.760,0:52:04.640
my lawson space robot

0:52:01.920,0:52:05.599
that was the inspiration it did not work

0:52:04.640,0:52:09.440
out well

0:52:05.599,0:52:12.880
because about

0:52:09.440,0:52:16.079
30 years later before um some of my

0:52:12.880,0:52:17.119
close friends and loved ones and family

0:52:16.079,0:52:19.520
members

0:52:17.119,0:52:21.119
joined together to buy me said lost in

0:52:19.520,0:52:24.960
space robot

0:52:21.119,0:52:27.520
um you know it’s i was making money

0:52:24.960,0:52:28.960
doing my collectibles and stuff there’s

0:52:27.520,0:52:30.559
always car insurance

0:52:28.960,0:52:32.960
and then college funds and then you have

0:52:30.559,0:52:34.960
a family and it just never seemed the

0:52:32.960,0:52:36.480
lesson space robot always became the the

0:52:34.960,0:52:39.040
last priority so

0:52:36.480,0:52:41.119
it was tough but that’s why i started

0:52:39.040,0:52:41.520
and ultimately you did wind up getting

0:52:41.119,0:52:45.280
it

0:52:41.520,0:52:47.599
you know ultimately i did yes

0:52:45.280,0:52:51.280
and still have it yep you know see so

0:52:47.599,0:52:51.280
everybody loves a happy ending see

0:52:51.440,0:52:56.000
so in addition to that one how many

0:52:54.720,0:53:00.319
collectibles do you

0:52:56.000,0:53:02.480
estimate that you have oh god you didn’t

0:53:00.319,0:53:02.480
count

0:53:04.400,0:53:08.400
counting the comic books and magic cards

0:53:07.359,0:53:11.760
uh

0:53:08.400,0:53:15.040
i mean just let’s just say thousands

0:53:11.760,0:53:15.040
yeah thousands of

0:53:15.359,0:53:20.480
some would label that an obsession but a

0:53:18.400,0:53:22.960
healthy one

0:53:20.480,0:53:23.680
i don’t i don’t like to be utilized

0:53:22.960,0:53:28.559
blind

0:53:23.680,0:53:31.680
i don’t like labels now

0:53:28.559,0:53:34.640
um so do you just collect do you sell

0:53:31.680,0:53:34.640
and trade your items

0:53:35.119,0:53:41.359
i do trade some items and

0:53:38.240,0:53:43.680
sell some items yet again much more

0:53:41.359,0:53:44.720
when we weren’t having the restrictions

0:53:43.680,0:53:46.880
that we’ve had

0:53:44.720,0:53:48.559
i would love to be able to do comic book

0:53:46.880,0:53:51.280
and toy shows again

0:53:48.559,0:53:51.760
uh goodness knows i’ve got enough stuff

0:53:51.280,0:53:53.680
so

0:53:51.760,0:53:56.160
you know it’s probably great to thin

0:53:53.680,0:53:58.079
that out once in a while

0:53:56.160,0:53:59.760
the other thing that we didn’t really

0:53:58.079,0:54:02.640
talk about earlier

0:53:59.760,0:54:04.079
one of the great aspects of having the

0:54:02.640,0:54:07.040
store

0:54:04.079,0:54:08.720
was and joe you and i touched on this a

0:54:07.040,0:54:11.839
little bit

0:54:08.720,0:54:13.920
was helping other people find

0:54:11.839,0:54:17.119
that one item that they’re looking for

0:54:13.920,0:54:21.040
yeah and watching their face light up

0:54:17.119,0:54:24.079
when that piece that that missing piece

0:54:21.040,0:54:26.319
like shel silverstein said uh it just

0:54:24.079,0:54:29.359
feels that spot in their heart that

0:54:26.319,0:54:30.480
they had as a little kid finding that

0:54:29.359,0:54:33.680
toy or game

0:54:30.480,0:54:36.079
or stuffed animal or whatever it was

0:54:33.680,0:54:38.000
and finally you know having it again it

0:54:36.079,0:54:40.000
just i don’t know it just

0:54:38.000,0:54:41.760
gives you that warm fuzzy feeling so

0:54:40.000,0:54:43.680
that’s another reason why i really would

0:54:41.760,0:54:46.240
like to get back to

0:54:43.680,0:54:48.480
being able to give back some of this

0:54:46.240,0:54:48.480
stuff

0:54:49.280,0:54:52.960
there’s people out there looking for him

0:54:50.640,0:54:55.359
just like joe and i are

0:54:52.960,0:54:57.359
yeah and as a collector i’ve i’ve never

0:54:55.359,0:54:59.680
sold any of my collectors i

0:54:57.359,0:55:01.119
i almost got to the point in fact i

0:54:59.680,0:55:03.839
almost brokered through you

0:55:01.119,0:55:05.599
the sale of a couple of pieces um and i

0:55:03.839,0:55:07.760
was out of work a few years back but

0:55:05.599,0:55:09.599
fortunately

0:55:07.760,0:55:11.680
the situation turned itself around and i

0:55:09.599,0:55:14.559
didn’t have to sell anything

0:55:11.680,0:55:15.440
um and and i still hold on to most of

0:55:14.559,0:55:18.400
the stuff evan and

0:55:15.440,0:55:19.920
my goal was never to to make a profit on

0:55:18.400,0:55:21.440
anything it was really just to capture

0:55:19.920,0:55:24.880
that nostalgia

0:55:21.440,0:55:26.240
but since you did do it semi

0:55:24.880,0:55:28.319
well you did do it professionally

0:55:26.240,0:55:31.440
because you had a store

0:55:28.319,0:55:34.400
do you currently have any

0:55:31.440,0:55:35.440
high value items that you’re holding on

0:55:34.400,0:55:37.920
to that you wouldn’t

0:55:35.440,0:55:38.880
sell or wouldn’t sell unless the

0:55:37.920,0:55:42.079
conditions were

0:55:38.880,0:55:45.040
ideal well sure yeah

0:55:42.079,0:55:46.000
and and we we talked about that a little

0:55:45.040,0:55:48.319
bit earlier too

0:55:46.000,0:55:49.520
that my main obsession comic book wise

0:55:48.319,0:55:53.920
is spider-man

0:55:49.520,0:55:57.040
so that would be probably the most

0:55:53.920,0:55:59.200
valuable thing that i own is i have all

0:55:57.040,0:56:02.720
of the spider-man comic books

0:55:59.200,0:56:04.559
um some of which uh some of you guys

0:56:02.720,0:56:07.200
have gotten to hold and actually

0:56:04.559,0:56:08.960
see so uh that would probably be the

0:56:07.200,0:56:11.839
most expensive thing that i have

0:56:08.960,0:56:12.240
and and i can honestly say since i can’t

0:56:11.839,0:56:16.079
actually

0:56:12.240,0:56:17.920
pick up my car your one spider-man comic

0:56:16.079,0:56:20.799
was literally the most expensive thing

0:56:17.920,0:56:20.799
i’ve ever held

0:56:21.440,0:56:24.720
that’s that’s a pretty safe bet for a

0:56:23.200,0:56:28.079
lot of people yeah

0:56:24.720,0:56:30.319
yeah and uh very good condition

0:56:28.079,0:56:31.280
and i and i assume you’ve kept it in as

0:56:30.319,0:56:33.599
good a condition

0:56:31.280,0:56:35.520
you know in the 10 years since i saw it

0:56:33.599,0:56:37.200
you would expect nothing less

0:56:35.520,0:56:38.559
i imagine it doesn’t see the light of

0:56:37.200,0:56:40.160
day very often

0:56:38.559,0:56:45.839
it really doesn’t no it’s not something

0:56:40.160,0:56:45.839
i take out the thumb through you know

0:56:47.040,0:56:53.200
so um on the subject of some of your

0:56:50.720,0:56:54.960
more valuable items what’s the biggest

0:56:53.200,0:56:56.839
win of a collectible you’ve ever managed

0:56:54.960,0:57:00.319
to acquire

0:56:56.839,0:57:03.760
um well i would say one of my

0:57:00.319,0:57:07.280
favorite things that i found was

0:57:03.760,0:57:07.920
uh as a young collector uh i used to

0:57:07.280,0:57:10.400
frequent

0:57:07.920,0:57:11.520
yard sales in flea markets and my dad

0:57:10.400,0:57:14.400
would would

0:57:11.520,0:57:15.680
actually be running a shop down in

0:57:14.400,0:57:18.160
lahaska

0:57:15.680,0:57:19.839
uh on weekends so i would go down with

0:57:18.160,0:57:21.599
him occasionally

0:57:19.839,0:57:23.280
and this was when i was still you know

0:57:21.599,0:57:26.079
maybe 8 10

0:57:23.280,0:57:26.799
12 years old and i wandered into one of

0:57:26.079,0:57:30.000
the shops

0:57:26.799,0:57:32.079
and uh an older woman had a stack of

0:57:30.000,0:57:34.480
comics under the counter and she

0:57:32.079,0:57:36.559
allowed me to look through them and i

0:57:34.480,0:57:38.160
found one that i really wanted and i

0:57:36.559,0:57:40.799
gave her a quarter

0:57:38.160,0:57:41.920
and i walked out with it and walked very

0:57:40.799,0:57:46.880
quickly back to

0:57:41.920,0:57:51.040
my dad and it was a hulk number six

0:57:46.880,0:57:53.520
which um at the time was probably only

0:57:51.040,0:57:54.480
a couple of hundred dollars but it

0:57:53.520,0:57:56.559
really was like

0:57:54.480,0:57:58.960
one of the big wins of finding something

0:57:56.559,0:58:01.440
in the wild that you never saw

0:57:58.960,0:58:03.119
you know even behind the counter at a

0:58:01.440,0:58:04.640
comic show a lot of times

0:58:03.119,0:58:08.000
that was one of the best things that i

0:58:04.640,0:58:10.640
had found um another one was finding a

0:58:08.000,0:58:12.000
monsters drag race game in a thrift

0:58:10.640,0:58:15.200
store

0:58:12.000,0:58:19.119
for two dollars which i

0:58:15.200,0:58:22.480
then did trade to someone at a toy show

0:58:19.119,0:58:24.880
that was probably

0:58:22.480,0:58:26.000
four or five hundred dollar game at the

0:58:24.880,0:58:27.680
time wow

0:58:26.000,0:58:30.319
so you know you get every once in a

0:58:27.680,0:58:32.799
while you get a win yeah

0:58:30.319,0:58:34.400
so you’ve obviously run the gambit of

0:58:32.799,0:58:35.440
collectibles at this point in time

0:58:34.400,0:58:37.680
comics and

0:58:35.440,0:58:40.319
toys and everything else what are you

0:58:37.680,0:58:41.040
into right now as far as collectibles

0:58:40.319,0:58:44.880
what’s your

0:58:41.040,0:58:44.880
what are you targeting right now

0:58:45.680,0:58:49.599
believe it or not it does seem like

0:58:47.680,0:58:50.319
board games is one of the things that

0:58:49.599,0:58:53.359
i’m uh

0:58:50.319,0:58:56.160
really kind of looking at uh

0:58:53.359,0:58:57.599
we’ve had a lot of fun just doing our

0:58:56.160,0:58:58.799
gaming nights but we’re always looking

0:58:57.599,0:59:01.119
for something new

0:58:58.799,0:59:02.880
i know joe you’ve probably noticed by

0:59:01.119,0:59:03.200
now even though your eyes are drawn to

0:59:02.880,0:59:05.839
the

0:59:03.200,0:59:07.040
return to the jedi game but right next

0:59:05.839,0:59:10.240
to that you’ll see

0:59:07.040,0:59:12.960
a copy of the very rare uh

0:59:10.240,0:59:14.640
john carpenter’s the thing game and

0:59:12.960,0:59:18.240
it’ll be a second i’m gonna grab that

0:59:14.640,0:59:21.520
for you oh

0:59:18.240,0:59:22.319
i better grab this one too this was

0:59:21.520,0:59:26.000
another

0:59:22.319,0:59:29.040
surprise this past year and and

0:59:26.000,0:59:31.680
god love him for something like this

0:59:29.040,0:59:33.440
um let me find my camera there we go

0:59:31.680,0:59:36.799
you’re good you’re good

0:59:33.440,0:59:40.400
all right um the princess bride game uh

0:59:36.799,0:59:41.760
it recreates all the scenarios from the

0:59:40.400,0:59:45.680
movie

0:59:41.760,0:59:47.760
and allows you to play the characters

0:59:45.680,0:59:48.880
as they would have approached each

0:59:47.760,0:59:51.440
challenge

0:59:48.880,0:59:53.040
so you have the despair you have the

0:59:51.440,0:59:56.480
cliffs of insanity

0:59:53.040,0:59:57.920
you have the shrieking eels and you have

0:59:56.480,0:59:59.359
to do different things in order to get

0:59:57.920,1:00:00.640
through those scenarios and it’s a lot

0:59:59.359,1:00:04.400
of fun

1:00:00.640,1:00:05.119
um and then this one was a christmas

1:00:04.400,1:00:09.280
present

1:00:05.119,1:00:12.480
that just came out a couple of years ago

1:00:09.280,1:00:15.599
uh i had seen it at toy fair

1:00:12.480,1:00:17.680
tried to buy it they were sold out

1:00:15.599,1:00:18.720
tried to buy it at go games they were

1:00:17.680,1:00:20.960
sold out

1:00:18.720,1:00:22.000
then they stopped making it for a while

1:00:20.960,1:00:27.040
so this was

1:00:22.000,1:00:29.680
uh quite a fine this past year very good

1:00:27.040,1:00:31.680
this is very much similar and madison

1:00:29.680,1:00:34.559
you might be aware of this game um

1:00:31.680,1:00:36.880
there’s an online game called among us

1:00:34.559,1:00:38.960
oh yeah

1:00:36.880,1:00:40.839
you know basically the plot of that

1:00:38.960,1:00:44.079
right yeah

1:00:40.839,1:00:45.839
impossible that’s kind of the premise of

1:00:44.079,1:00:47.359
the thing and i know some of your other

1:00:45.839,1:00:50.640
viewers will know that

1:00:47.359,1:00:53.920
uh what happens is there’s a bunch of

1:00:50.640,1:00:56.960
scientists in the arctic

1:00:53.920,1:00:59.920
and they discover a flying saucer

1:00:56.960,1:01:02.160
and there’s a creature on there that

1:00:59.920,1:01:04.319
takes the place of one of the people

1:01:02.160,1:01:05.359
and they don’t know who it is right and

1:01:04.319,1:01:08.000
that name

1:01:05.359,1:01:10.240
one of you is the creature trying to

1:01:08.000,1:01:11.839
chase and eat the other ones

1:01:10.240,1:01:14.000
and you either have to escape or kill

1:01:11.839,1:01:16.799
the creature and it’s it’s really

1:01:14.000,1:01:19.760
like intense that’s cool that’s cool big

1:01:16.799,1:01:21.200
fan of the movie love the movie

1:01:19.760,1:01:23.440
yeah they did a really good job making

1:01:21.200,1:01:25.680
this creepy too that’s cool

1:01:23.440,1:01:26.799
and that’s hard to do with a board game

1:01:25.680,1:01:28.319
it is

1:01:26.799,1:01:30.640
so we’re kind of running up against the

1:01:28.319,1:01:33.680
clock here before we go

1:01:30.640,1:01:35.440
um did you have any advice for someone

1:01:33.680,1:01:36.960
madison’s age who

1:01:35.440,1:01:38.799
might want to start collecting and

1:01:36.960,1:01:41.119
doesn’t really know how to get into it

1:01:38.799,1:01:42.319
or is looking for a game that they might

1:01:41.119,1:01:44.079
be able to play with

1:01:42.319,1:01:46.559
their friends in a limited environment

1:01:44.079,1:01:48.480
or anything like that

1:01:46.559,1:01:49.839
there’s a there’s a great selection out

1:01:48.480,1:01:53.119
there i would say

1:01:49.839,1:01:53.920
one of your your options is to maybe go

1:01:53.119,1:01:56.240
to

1:01:53.920,1:01:57.359
some of these comic shows and

1:01:56.240,1:02:00.079
collectible shows

1:01:57.359,1:02:01.760
or even a comic shop and ask some of the

1:02:00.079,1:02:02.880
not only the owners or

1:02:01.760,1:02:05.599
people that are working behind the

1:02:02.880,1:02:06.079
counter but if you see uh someone had a

1:02:05.599,1:02:08.480
table

1:02:06.079,1:02:10.319
playing a game stick around and and

1:02:08.480,1:02:12.559
check it out because that’s a good way

1:02:10.319,1:02:15.520
of seeing one of those reviews those

1:02:12.559,1:02:17.200
game reviews in person

1:02:15.520,1:02:18.880
there’s a lot of options out there i

1:02:17.200,1:02:19.359
know that there aren’t a lot of toy

1:02:18.880,1:02:22.319
stores

1:02:19.359,1:02:23.920
anymore but you know barnes and noble

1:02:22.319,1:02:25.440
does a good job of putting a bunch of

1:02:23.920,1:02:27.599
different games out there

1:02:25.440,1:02:29.280
uh target does a great job they’ve

1:02:27.599,1:02:30.720
really you know kind of kept

1:02:29.280,1:02:32.720
stepped up their game this past year

1:02:30.720,1:02:35.039
with the board games um

1:02:32.720,1:02:36.559
we don’t have we don’t have kitty city

1:02:35.039,1:02:39.359
we don’t have toys r us

1:02:36.559,1:02:41.119
we don’t have kb toys anymore but you

1:02:39.359,1:02:42.799
know you’ll have like a go games at

1:02:41.119,1:02:46.000
christmas time that you can maybe

1:02:42.799,1:02:48.559
find some cool stuff at um

1:02:46.000,1:02:49.200
and then just go with what you really

1:02:48.559,1:02:51.359
enjoy

1:02:49.200,1:02:53.200
i mean we’ve had a lot of success with

1:02:51.359,1:02:56.240
that joe as far as you know

1:02:53.200,1:02:57.440
your love of star wars uh michelle’s

1:02:56.240,1:03:00.559
love of buffy

1:02:57.440,1:03:02.160
um you know us with you know any of the

1:03:00.559,1:03:04.240
other games that we’ve brought over to

1:03:02.160,1:03:06.720
you guys um

1:03:04.240,1:03:08.960
see what your friends like check it out

1:03:06.720,1:03:10.400
um there’s such a variety of games out

1:03:08.960,1:03:11.440
there right now you’re bound to find

1:03:10.400,1:03:13.920
something you like

1:03:11.440,1:03:15.359
awesome awesome well we’ll be right back

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and we’ll get

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madison’s closing remarks

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okay so for my closing remarks today i’m

1:03:25.920,1:03:32.480
just going to say to everyone out there

1:03:28.839,1:03:35.760
um play some games you don’t have to

1:03:32.480,1:03:38.000
always do it with people because

1:03:35.760,1:03:39.520
of course restricted environment but try

1:03:38.000,1:03:41.760
it out for yourself

1:03:39.520,1:03:44.000
try out some single player games and if

1:03:41.760,1:03:46.160
you can try out some group games

1:03:44.000,1:03:48.720
be creative with how you can play them

1:03:46.160,1:03:50.720
and try out new games and see if

1:03:48.720,1:03:51.760
and i’m sure there’s something you’ll

1:03:50.720,1:03:54.799
like

1:03:51.760,1:03:58.079
all right great advice uh

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dan again i want to thank you for uh

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joining us today it’s been a pleasure

1:04:00.000,1:04:04.799
it’s been insightful

1:04:01.599,1:04:06.400
entertaining educational

1:04:04.799,1:04:08.000
of course thank you so much for having

1:04:06.400,1:04:09.440
me guys i really enjoyed it

1:04:08.000,1:04:13.839
most of our entertainment was the your

1:04:09.440,1:04:13.839
mom joke but

1:04:14.880,1:04:18.400
exactly exactly so that’s it for this

1:04:17.680,1:04:20.799
week

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uh we’ll be back uh we won’t be

1:04:20.799,1:04:24.880
recording this weekend because this will

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be this weekend’s podcast but

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we’ll be back the following week so

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thank you for joining us on our special

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100th

1:04:30.000,1:04:38.839
episode and that’s it another one in the

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books

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[Music]

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do

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you