Insights Into Teens: Episode 101 “Creativity: Art”

This week we’ll discuss why art is important to the normal development of teens. We’ll look at why art is important and some of the key therapeutic and development benefits art offers teens.

Then we’ll take a deep dive in the Madison and her passion for art. We’ll discover how her journey into art started, her preferred medium for artistic expression, where she draws inspiration from and how she developed her own unique style of art.

Finally we’ll talk about the steps she took to pursue her passion. When did she first learn to draw, how COVID has affected her creativity, how does she motivate herself to create, how important parental and peer encouragement is and what kind of advice she can offer to others looking to pursue a passion in art.

Show Notes

[INTRO THEME]

[TRANSITION]

[SEGMENT 1] 

The benefits of art for teens

Why Art is Important for Teens

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  • Children like to experiment, push boundaries, bend (or break) the rules, and be their own unique self. Art provides the perfect vehicle for them to do these things.
  • Through the artistic process, teens can spread their wings and even soar as they discover their gifts and talents, and ultimately, who they really are.
  • Art allows teens to:
    • explore their feelings and emotions
    • reconcile conflicts
    • become more self-aware
    • manage and improve behavior
    • reduce stress and anxiety
    • gain self-confidence
    • increase self-esteem
    • improve their sense of well-being
    • think outside the box
    • express themselves creatively
    • improve performance in other areas
    • achieve personal insight
    • receive tremendous pleasure

Therapeutic Benefits of Art for Teens

  1. PRODUCTIVE SELF-EXPRESSION
    By being able to express oneself on a physical medium, teens gain a voice they otherwise may have never been able to access. Language is just one of the ways ideas are expressed. But through the creative process, troubled youth can learn to visually convey what they are struggling to express in words.
  2. GAINING SELF-CONTROL
    Teenagers suffering from various psychological issues frequently feel as if their life is something beyond their control. This sense of personal paralysis can often cause feelings of hopelessness. But by stimulating the mind through artistic engagement, teens can create something that they can tangibly call their own. This helps regain the sense of self-determination necessary in order to overcome other problems in their life.
  3. CONFIDENCE THROUGH PROGRESS
    By acquiring a progressively refined skill—such as painting, drawing, photography, and sculpting— adolescents can gain the confidence they need as their talents begin to improve. Being able to look at something they produced and physically see improvement of a unique skill is a tangible demonstration that things can get better with time and effort over time.
  4. BUILDING AN IMMEDIATE SENSE OF PURPOSE
    Art is a tangible medium. An artist is able to look at what they have produced and realize they created something positive and worthwhile. Looking at a beautiful painting they have made, at a fun drawing that expresses their interests, or at a photograph that reminds them of a positive time in their life, makes them realize they can produce something real and lasting.
  5. FINDING A LIFELONG INTEREST
    One of the reasons why experiential treatment through art has produced such remarkable results is that it allows teenagers to find a lifelong engagement. This passion may persist well-beyond their clinical treatment. Creative therapies can produce a sense of value, both in the present and future. These healthy coping mechanisms can replace risky and dangerous behaviors. Art therapy acts as an aid to those struggling with depression, substance abuse, low self-worth, and other serious mental health issues.

[AD1: SSE]

[SEGMENT 2]

Madison and her Art

  • What started your journey into making art?
  • Do you still create comics? If not, why?
  • What is your preferred medium to create in?
  • Where do you draw inspiration from for your artwork?
  • Is there a particular style of art you employ more than others?
  • Do you think you’re destined for an art related career or some sort?

[AD2: ENTERTAINMENT]

[SEGMENT 3] 

Pursuing your passion

  • How did you learn how to draw?
  • How have the restrictions around COVID impact your creativity?
  • What do you do to motivate yourself when you’re in a creative slump?
  • Do you feel like you are encouraged by mom and dad and others to pursue art?
  • How important is encouragement in art to you?
  • What kind of career path do you think you might have in an art related field?
  • What advice do you have for others who might be interested in learning how to create art?

[TRANSITION]

[OUTRO AND CREDITS]

What started your journey into making art?

  • Like most kids at a young age, I liked to draw things that were on my mind at the time. I would use crayons and paper to make strange drawings. I loved taking them home and putting them on our refrigerator. We still have plenty of them up there. I enjoyed doing crafts and artsy things when I was younger, but I never really tried with my art. I had a few sketchbooks that are filled with random drawings I did when I was between 4 and 9. I didn’t think I’d have a career out of art. That was, until I started comics.
  • I was about 10 years old when I first started making comics. The thing that got me into making comics was actually a Spongebob comic book. You, Mommy and I went to a comic book store for free comic book day, and I saw a Spongebob comic. At this point, I really liked Spongebob and I wanted to get the comic. It wasn’t a free comic, but you guys got it for me anyway. It was one of the first Spongebob comic books I ever owned and I loved re-reading it over and over. At some point, I thought about what it would take to make a comic book like this, and then I got the idea to make my own Spongebob comics.
  • The first comic I ever made was kind of a retelling of the main story of the Spongebob comic. One of the jokes of the comic was that Spongebob was barely in it. In my comic, I started off with the scene that Spongebob was in, where he was thinking of Patrick. Instead of ending the Spongebob scene where the real comic ended it, I made him a part of the story by making him save Larry the Lobster from drawing(this was just the logic of Spongebob.) The main story was that Larry and Patrick were marooned on a raft in the middle of the ocean. In my comic, I made Larry nearly drown and Spongebob had to save him. After that, Patrick and Spongebob just hung out for the rest of the day. That was where my first ever comic ended.
  • I started making a hobby out of my comics for a little while. I started making comics based on episodes of Spongebob and adding my own touch to them. I also made my own episodes of Spongebob by making up different stories for my comics. I ended up adding new characters and aging everyone as the comics when on. At the time, I hung around my friend Lindsey, and she wanted me to make comics based on her favorite show at the time, The Power Puff Girls. Soon, that became its own series with characters I added and crossovers with Spongebob. I had also really liked the Pigeon books by Mo Williams, so I ended up giving them a smaller series. Their comics were mainly the type you’d see on the back of a comic book. They were short and simple. Overall, I made a lot of comics in the three years I worked on them, and it really set me up for my future with art.

Why did I stop the comics and where did I go from there?

  • I had simple reasons for stopping the comics. One of them was because I was just too busy at the time. I was in 6th grade by then, and that year had changed so much of my life. I started having more schoolwork to do, and it was my first year in advanced math, so I had more work due to that. I started becoming too busy to make the comics at that point and stopped to focus more on school. Another reason was that I didn’t enjoy it as much. Instead of it being fun to make comics, it became tedious and tiring to the point I wasn’t enjoying it as much. The final reason was my changing art style. I had started changing my art style much more over the years, and I still did the comics in a similar design, so when I was done, I didn’t feel the satisfaction that I would have felt a year or two ago.
  • Once I stopped the comics. I still wanted to continue making art, just not comics for a while. I started just sketching ideas of people down, and I started my art phase of trying to draw people. When I was in summer camp, I had some friends who make art in their style, and I started to get inspired by them. Through the whole summer, I had sketch books and a folder of paper where I would draw when I had the chance. By the end, I had plenty of work that came out of it. Although I drew a lot, I still didn’t have a go to style. I tried different things to see what would work. It almost felt I was back when I wasn’t drawing comics, except I really tried with my art. It took a while until I seemed to settle on a style.
  • When I started 7th grade, I was still undecided about how I would improve and find my style. I didn’t seem as busy with school as I was in 6th grade, so I was able to get more time to work on art. When I had freetime in class and at lunch, I’d take some loose leaf paper and start drawing a character. I had a tendency to make up characters as I went along, trying out new designs while finding my groove. I ended up getting two whole notebooks for drawing. At the time I also started using Gacha Life to make characters. I ended up drawing those characters in my notebook with my new style. I also had an artsy new friend named Kris who would draw with me. By the middle of the year, I found my art style and was a drawing machine. 


How Covid Affected My Art.

  • By the time Covid hit, I had been losing a bit of motivation for drawing, and I didn’t do as much as I would have liked. When I went into quarantine, I started using some new art supplies, like paint and markers to create new art. I started turning things into people and drew some of the characters I created from my comics and the series I was doing with my friends. I had tried some new things with all this extra time I had. I tried art challenges like remaking my old art, or drawing one of my characters in 50 different styles. But my whole art career changed when I started digital art.
  • I had gotten my tablet when I was almost done with 6th grade, and with that, you guys added drawing apps for me to try. At first, I tried drawing some characters, but I didn’t like it very much back then. But when I started seeing other artists drawing digitally, I wanted to try it for myself. I ended up liking it so much that we ended up getting drawing gloves, a stand and a stylist for me to work on digital art with. I started out making some of my Gacha characters as people like before, but this time I was able to use a reverence. Over time, I learned how to make better outlines, color and shade better, and how to draw certain parts of a person. I also started using digital art for my school work if I needed to draw something for a project.
  • I also started mixing art with my story skills by making movies of the characters I created and drew as well as making stories for the characters I had drawn. You could also say that making comics was a way I mixed some of my creative talents. Overall, I believe that I have greatly improved in my art over the years and I know I won’t be stopping anytime soon.
Transcription

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welcome to insights into teens this is

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episode 101 this is the first in the

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creativity series we’re going to be

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doing

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we’re going to be talking about

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creativity in a form of

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artwork today i’m your host joseph

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whalen

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and my intuitive and creative co-host

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madison whalum

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hi everyone how you doing today maddie

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i’m doing all right

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so how was your week this week it was

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all right

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um nothing too crazy um i actually

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wasn’t too stressed this week which was

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good

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that’s a kind of a change maybe the the

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nice weather we had because we had some

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nice sunny warm days this week maybe

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that helped maybe

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you know anyway you weren’t too stressed

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so that’s always a good sign do you have

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any tests or any quizzes or anything big

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this week

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uh yeah actually i had two quizzes on

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math

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and a quiz and a test in

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ela wow it sounds like a out of a

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challenging week and you weren’t

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stressed out that’s impressive

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yeah maybe uh maybe the podcast is

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starting to help

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you never know you never know so we will

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be talking uh

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artwork today um so the next couple of

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episodes that we’re gonna be doing are

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gonna focus on

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uh creativity the benefits that it

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offers to

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teens some of the benefits that you get

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from it

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and then we’re going to talk kind of a

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little more in depth about

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your experience with these creative

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endeavors okay

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uh but before we we do get into that i

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shall we get into it we shall let us

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commence

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shalling

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so the first thing i wanted to kind of

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discuss was the benefits

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to teens um that art provides

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and and you know what why is art

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important to teens so this week’s

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research came from a website called

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masterpiecesociety.com

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and it’s it’s some of the basic stuff

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that you would expect

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so they say that the children like to

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experiment and push boundaries

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they like to bend or break the rules and

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they like to be their own unique self

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and art provides the perfect vehicle for

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them to do these things

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do you think that art allows you to kind

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of push your boundaries and

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experiment with the kind of person that

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that you want to be when you grow up

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i mean yeah when you think about some of

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the regular classes in school

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like math english um

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science and history a lot of that is

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kind of

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structured there’s really no creative

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potential the students can really have

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except maybe an ela

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most of the time it’s kind of just the

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structured

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format that we’ve been using for a while

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now

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but with art kids are allowed to be

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themselves and figure out

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who they are you have a lot less

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boundaries a lot less limitations

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and there’s so many more potentials for

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you to

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become to find yourself and do things

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your own way

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sure yeah i think i want to say that

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through the artistic process

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teens can spread their wings and even

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soar as they discover their gifts and

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talents

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and ultimately who they really are so

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they have a list

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of various benefits and i’m going to

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just quickly run down the list

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and see if you’ve experienced any of

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these benefits yourself

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so the first one they talk about is art

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allows teens to explore their feelings

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and emotions do you

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kind of pour your emotion into your

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artwork

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i mean there’s a lot of times that i do

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um have that going on like a lot of

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times

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um when i’m feeling a certain emotion

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i kind of have a character going through

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that emotion that i draw

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um sometimes i just um

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i sometimes when i am expelling

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experiencing a bad

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feeling i kind of try to make a slightly

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happier drawing that’s kind of

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doesn’t like like kind of shows my grief

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but puts it in a happier light

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interesting

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so they talk about using art to

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reconcile conflicts have you ever

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has that helped you like i can’t even in

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my own mind

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fathom an example of this but have you

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ever had an ex

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this example where maybe you

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you drew a picture for a friend to try

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to resolve something or you used a

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piece of artwork you were working on to

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kind of work your way through how to

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solve that problem

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actually yes i do have a specific

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example of it

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so back when i was in sixth grade i

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didn’t have a lot of emotional control

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it was when i first kind of started

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experiencing mood swings and

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i wasn’t good at controlling them and

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sometimes

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i’d lash out at one of my friends and

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we wouldn’t talk for a little bit and

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i’d have to figure out a way to resolve

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it

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so this one time it was actually kind of

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late in the school year

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so um and i hadn’t been lashing out as

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much

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so this was like the first time i’d

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really lashed out in a while

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um and i just so happened to have art

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that day and we were drawing

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uh bookmarks um like

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we were like having names written down

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and

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um we were designing bookmarks like that

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and i decided to

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make one for her and by the end since we

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were both in aftercare i ended up giving

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it to her as a

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hey sorry i got mad hope you can forgive

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me

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and we did end up making up interesting

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i would not have guessed that but that’s

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a very good example

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so the next couple actually fall into

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that

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that sort of same situation i think so

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one is that

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art helps to become teens to become more

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self-aware

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and it helps to manage and improve

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behavior which it sounds like

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this one specific example um

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it seemed to do both of those for you

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would you agree

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yeah i’d say so because when i was

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making it

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um i wasn’t i had been a lot more calm

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um it had helped me kind of wind down

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from the fight

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and realize that hey maybe you should

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apologize

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you really didn’t mean to lash out so it

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definitely

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helped me become more self-aware and

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helped improve my behavior

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how about your stress and anxiety has

0:08:27.599,0:08:32.959
has your artwork and your

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and applying your skill in your artwork

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does that help to reduce your stress and

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anxiety

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i mean yeah when i do make art

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especially when i like

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outline things i feel a lot rel i feel

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very

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relaxed when i do art i never feel

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pressured to finish it it’s just like

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you’ll get it done when it get it gets

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done when it gets done

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and a lot of times doing the art is very

0:08:54.720,0:08:59.279
calming and satisfying to me nice nice

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and that’s exactly what it should be

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because it’s a recreational activity for

0:09:01.200,0:09:04.480
you

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how about self-confidence and

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self-esteem does

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does your artwork help you to build both

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of those

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uh yeah especially when i compare it to

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the when i first started doing

0:09:13.120,0:09:19.120
art like a lot of times when i finish

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a piece and i look back in it and i’m

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like

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wow i just did that and it really does

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help me boost my confidence and makes me

0:09:25.920,0:09:29.200
say

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hey you’re not just a regular artist i’m

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pretty sure you’re good

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like it’s kind of like that feeling and

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especially when i compare it to when i

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first started i’m like wow i’ve improved

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so much over

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only a few years yeah that is true

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it also goes on to say that that art

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helps to improve a teen’s sense of

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well-being

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and i have to assume that a good portion

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of that is that sense of

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self-satisfaction that you get when you

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take it upon yourself to to do a piece

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of artwork or if someone commissions you

0:10:00.800,0:10:04.640
to do artwork

0:10:02.480,0:10:07.440
and once you complete it and you see the

0:10:04.640,0:10:10.240
reaction that you get from the audience

0:10:07.440,0:10:11.680
is that part of the well-being or is it

0:10:10.240,0:10:14.240
deeper than that

0:10:11.680,0:10:16.000
well it is part of the well-being seeing

0:10:14.240,0:10:17.040
that other people like your art but i

0:10:16.000,0:10:19.760
think it’s also

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the own self-satisfaction of it

0:10:19.760,0:10:22.800
realizing that you

0:10:21.120,0:10:24.399
might be better than you originally

0:10:22.800,0:10:26.320
planned like especially if you try

0:10:24.399,0:10:27.120
something new for the first time and you

0:10:26.320,0:10:29.600
realize

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hey you actually are kind of good at it

0:10:29.600,0:10:32.640
it was kind of the same thing when i

0:10:30.720,0:10:35.519
made your poster i had tried

0:10:32.640,0:10:37.120
making i tried a slightly different art

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style than what i was used to

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and it actually turned out really nice

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yeah it did it turned out really nice

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we might actually showcase that when we

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do our dnd uh

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episode so they go on to say

0:10:48.959,0:10:52.880
that it helps teens to think outside the

0:10:51.680,0:10:56.079
box

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and it helps them to express themselves

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creatively now i have to assume

0:10:58.560,0:11:01.760
both of those are correct just based on

0:11:00.160,0:11:04.240
that example you gave

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i mean yeah because a lot of times when

0:11:04.240,0:11:09.519
i do create art

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um it harnesses a lot of my creativity

0:11:09.519,0:11:14.800
and i’m able to express myself

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in a lot more ways like art to me

0:11:14.800,0:11:21.040
isn’t just the drawing part it’s also

0:11:17.920,0:11:23.360
like multiple parts it’s kind of also

0:11:21.040,0:11:24.320
takes into the story aspect of it and

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like

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it shows not tells um it basically

0:11:27.519,0:11:34.640
shows you a it can show you something

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and give it a huge meaning kind of like

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propaganda if you will

0:11:36.720,0:11:40.399
and that’s a great segue into the next

0:11:38.800,0:11:41.839
benefit they talk about here and that’s

0:11:40.399,0:11:44.000
improving performance in other

0:11:41.839,0:11:45.839
areas so one of the other areas is

0:11:44.000,0:11:49.040
actually telling stories

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you know you use it when you were making

0:11:49.040,0:11:53.279
your comics

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i mean flat out to tell a story but what

0:11:53.279,0:11:58.000
other areas do you think

0:11:54.880,0:11:58.800
art has helped improve for you i think a

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lot of it

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is um storytelling

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without words basically um

0:12:05.279,0:12:12.320
like you once again shall not tell

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you see a character in a situation you

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can

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tell by their facial expression by their

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pose and just by the way they

0:12:16.959,0:12:21.279
dress and what colors they’re wearing

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you can kind of tell

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about them and i’ve learned how to

0:12:23.519,0:12:28.399
express characters more

0:12:26.079,0:12:29.440
through their accessories their facial

0:12:28.399,0:12:32.959
expressions

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and their poses it’s funny that you have

0:12:32.959,0:12:36.959
that level of insight into the artwork

0:12:34.720,0:12:37.519
because a lot of classical artists like

0:12:36.959,0:12:40.480
you look at

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the works of michelangelo you know you

0:12:40.480,0:12:45.760
see what he did with the sistine chapel

0:12:42.480,0:12:50.320
or the last supper and and you realize

0:12:45.760,0:12:53.839
or davinci rather you realize that he

0:12:50.320,0:12:57.120
tells an entire story with a single

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image but there are so many elements in

0:12:57.120,0:13:02.639
that image itself

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that it there’s almost subplots that

0:13:02.639,0:13:05.279
happen like you look at the leah supper

0:13:04.160,0:13:08.240
itself

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there’s there’s undertones the shading

0:13:08.240,0:13:11.760
the colors the depth

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the expression all these things that

0:13:11.760,0:13:14.959
that are incorporated into the work of

0:13:13.680,0:13:17.200
art

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they tell a story it’s not just a

0:13:17.200,0:13:21.920
snapshot in time

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you can go back and you can analyze each

0:13:21.920,0:13:26.079
element

0:13:22.480,0:13:29.279
of the painting itself and

0:13:26.079,0:13:32.959
while there’s visual depth to

0:13:29.279,0:13:35.600
the painting itself there’s a sense of

0:13:32.959,0:13:36.800
depth in time as well because you can

0:13:35.600,0:13:39.680
see how that

0:13:36.800,0:13:40.560
the painting how that entire scene

0:13:39.680,0:13:42.160
progresses

0:13:40.560,0:13:43.680
almost in time even though it is a

0:13:42.160,0:13:45.279
snapshot

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so it’s very similar to what you’re

0:13:45.279,0:13:53.040
describing yeah um

0:13:49.440,0:13:56.959
so what about personal insight um

0:13:53.040,0:13:59.680
art helps you achieve personal insight

0:13:56.959,0:14:00.639
into who you are the type of person that

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you are

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what your personality is do you find

0:14:02.480,0:14:07.360
that it tends to bring out some of the

0:14:05.199,0:14:08.560
qualities those personality qualities

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that might not

0:14:08.560,0:14:11.920
be right at the surface they’re coming

0:14:10.160,0:14:15.120
out i mean

0:14:11.920,0:14:18.079
yeah there’s a lot of times where like

0:14:15.120,0:14:18.639
i can think of a particular image that

0:14:18.079,0:14:22.160
kind of

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expresses a certain part of me um

0:14:22.160,0:14:28.240
there was one point when i was feeling

0:14:25.199,0:14:30.560
like some negative emotions and i

0:14:28.240,0:14:33.680
described them to you as

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somewhat of a demon look and

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uh the more i thought about it the more

0:14:35.600,0:14:40.480
the demon kind of

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formed itself into a form and i know a

0:14:40.480,0:14:44.399
lot of people

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kind of make their

0:14:44.399,0:14:50.160
negative emotions and draw them into

0:14:47.600,0:14:51.519
what they perceive and it’s really

0:14:50.160,0:14:53.600
interesting to see

0:14:51.519,0:14:55.199
how so many people perceive their own

0:14:53.600,0:14:56.959
emotions because there are so many

0:14:55.199,0:14:58.560
different ways someone can interpret one

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specific emotion

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absolutely yeah i mean and a lot of

0:15:01.120,0:15:06.560
times it’s difficult for teens to even

0:15:04.399,0:15:09.360
label or vocalize what their emotions

0:15:06.560,0:15:11.920
are and art tends to help you

0:15:09.360,0:15:14.880
to conceptualize those emotions that

0:15:11.920,0:15:16.720
you’re feeling that you can’t vocalize

0:15:14.880,0:15:18.959
um and that kind of leads us into the

0:15:16.720,0:15:21.360
next section here

0:15:18.959,0:15:24.160
um this information came from a website

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called polaristeen.com

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and they talk about the therapeutic

0:15:25.839,0:15:31.440
benefits of art for teens

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and there’s uh what do we have five five

0:15:31.440,0:15:34.160
items here that they talk about

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and we’ll just run through these real

0:15:34.160,0:15:39.199
quick one

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is a um it’s a productive

0:15:39.199,0:15:42.800
self-expression

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so being uh by being able to express

0:15:42.800,0:15:46.800
oneself on a physical medium teens gain

0:15:45.519,0:15:50.160
a voice

0:15:46.800,0:15:53.279
they otherwise may never be able to

0:15:50.160,0:15:54.560
access language is just one of the ways

0:15:53.279,0:15:56.399
ideas are expressed

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much very much like what you were

0:15:56.399,0:15:59.519
alluding to

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but through the creative process

0:15:59.519,0:16:03.279
troubled youth can learn to visually

0:16:01.519,0:16:04.160
convey what they’re struggling to

0:16:03.279,0:16:07.519
express

0:16:04.160,0:16:09.360
in words have you found that that

0:16:07.519,0:16:11.279
your artwork is giving you a voice that

0:16:09.360,0:16:13.759
you wouldn’t normally have had

0:16:11.279,0:16:14.720
i mean yeah a lot of the things i think

0:16:13.759,0:16:18.720
about

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i can kind of put into a piece of art

0:16:18.720,0:16:23.680
like i said before art normally shows

0:16:21.839,0:16:26.880
you a lot more than

0:16:23.680,0:16:30.000
just words would um and

0:16:26.880,0:16:32.240
drawing if i did end up drawing that one

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demon i think you would kind of

0:16:32.240,0:16:36.800
understand it a bit more than me just

0:16:34.480,0:16:37.920
describing it to you like i couldn’t

0:16:36.800,0:16:41.120
entirely

0:16:37.920,0:16:44.639
pinpoint the exact moment i

0:16:41.120,0:16:47.759
felt fear and why i felt fear um

0:16:44.639,0:16:51.759
so showing that one

0:16:47.759,0:16:54.880
so i kind of used the demon as a way to

0:16:51.759,0:16:56.160
describe it um and if i and if i had

0:16:54.880,0:16:59.360
drawn it out

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then maybe it would have shown more

0:16:59.360,0:17:04.480
um than my words would have said that’s

0:17:02.240,0:17:07.199
a very good point the next thing they

0:17:04.480,0:17:08.880
talk about is gaining self-control

0:17:07.199,0:17:11.520
teenagers suffer from various

0:17:08.880,0:17:14.000
psychological issues frequently

0:17:11.520,0:17:15.679
teenagers who suffer from various

0:17:14.000,0:17:17.600
psychological issues

0:17:15.679,0:17:19.839
frequently feel as if their life is

0:17:17.600,0:17:21.439
something beyond their control

0:17:19.839,0:17:22.799
and i think a lot of us these days tend

0:17:21.439,0:17:24.160
to feel that whether you’re a teenager

0:17:22.799,0:17:26.240
or not

0:17:24.160,0:17:29.120
this sense of personal paralysis can

0:17:26.240,0:17:31.120
often cause feelings of hopelessness

0:17:29.120,0:17:32.960
but by stimulating the mind through

0:17:31.120,0:17:35.520
artistic engagement

0:17:32.960,0:17:38.080
teens can create something that they can

0:17:35.520,0:17:39.640
tangibly call their own

0:17:38.080,0:17:41.200
this helps regain the sense of

0:17:39.640,0:17:43.360
self-determination

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necessary in order to overcome other

0:17:43.360,0:17:49.039
problems in their life

0:17:45.679,0:17:49.360
so do you find that that your artwork

0:17:49.039,0:17:51.840
has

0:17:49.360,0:17:54.000
helped you to deal with stressful

0:17:51.840,0:17:56.880
situations or some of the anxiety that

0:17:54.000,0:17:57.760
that tends to build up and help you deal

0:17:56.880,0:18:00.640
with it

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yeah because art isn’t really stressing

0:18:00.640,0:18:03.440
to me

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i never worry that hey you’re not going

0:18:03.440,0:18:08.240
to be able to finish it by this deadline

0:18:06.000,0:18:10.960
like it’s a way for me to kind of step

0:18:08.240,0:18:13.120
back and control something that

0:18:10.960,0:18:14.559
that and help me feel as though i’m in

0:18:13.120,0:18:18.240
control of something

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that um um and makes me stop thinking

0:18:18.240,0:18:24.160
about something i can’t really control

0:18:20.240,0:18:26.799
yeah confidence through progress

0:18:24.160,0:18:27.440
by acquiring a progressively refined

0:18:26.799,0:18:30.000
skill

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such as painting drawing photography and

0:18:30.000,0:18:33.679
sculpting

0:18:31.440,0:18:37.360
adolescents can gain the confidence they

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need as their talents begin to improve

0:18:37.360,0:18:40.559
being able to look at something they

0:18:39.200,0:18:42.320
produced and

0:18:40.559,0:18:45.679
physically seeing improvement of a

0:18:42.320,0:18:48.320
unique skill is a tangible demonstration

0:18:45.679,0:18:48.960
that things can get better with time and

0:18:48.320,0:18:52.559
effort

0:18:48.960,0:18:55.360
over time do you see yourself

0:18:52.559,0:18:56.080
improving and does that does that help

0:18:55.360,0:18:57.440
to bolster

0:18:56.080,0:18:59.600
your confidence as you see those

0:18:57.440,0:19:02.640
improvements yeah definitely

0:18:59.600,0:19:04.960
like i said before the fact that i can

0:19:02.640,0:19:06.799
look back at a drop like i can step back

0:19:04.960,0:19:09.120
from a drawing and be like

0:19:06.799,0:19:10.720
wow that’s actually really cool and then

0:19:09.120,0:19:11.440
like i look back at one of the earlier

0:19:10.720,0:19:13.760
drawings

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and if i do want to try and redraw

0:19:13.760,0:19:17.919
something

0:19:14.799,0:19:20.320
i see how much i’ve improved and that

0:19:17.919,0:19:21.919
and i feel a lot of people feel as

0:19:20.320,0:19:24.320
though they don’t improve their art

0:19:21.919,0:19:27.600
style over a long period of time

0:19:24.320,0:19:29.600
um and i feel as though looking back

0:19:27.600,0:19:31.039
and redrawing something from the past

0:19:29.600,0:19:32.880
kind of helps that

0:19:31.039,0:19:35.120
and it helps gain their put their

0:19:32.880,0:19:36.640
confidence up and realizes that hey you

0:19:35.120,0:19:39.120
are improving and

0:19:36.640,0:19:40.000
yeah it definitely teaches them that

0:19:39.120,0:19:43.200
things can

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um be improved with time and effort

0:19:43.200,0:19:46.640
and that’s an interesting approach to go

0:19:44.960,0:19:47.760
back and redraw something you may have

0:19:46.640,0:19:49.039
drawn a few years ago

0:19:47.760,0:19:50.960
just to see how your skills have

0:19:49.039,0:19:52.880
improved to have that one-to-one

0:19:50.960,0:19:55.760
comparison

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they also say that art helps building an

0:19:55.760,0:20:01.120
immediate sense of purpose

0:19:58.000,0:20:03.120
so art is a tangible medium an artist is

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able to look at what they have produced

0:20:03.120,0:20:07.039
and realize they created something

0:20:04.799,0:20:08.640
positive and worthwhile

0:20:07.039,0:20:10.640
looking at a beautiful painting they

0:20:08.640,0:20:12.320
have made and a fun drawing that

0:20:10.640,0:20:14.559
expresses their interest

0:20:12.320,0:20:16.640
or a photograph that reminds them of a

0:20:14.559,0:20:19.039
positive time in their life

0:20:16.640,0:20:20.480
makes them realize they are producing

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something real

0:20:20.480,0:20:26.640
and lasting does that sense of

0:20:23.280,0:20:29.120
permanence of your artwork

0:20:26.640,0:20:31.200
have an effect on you does it does it

0:20:29.120,0:20:32.880
inspire you does it

0:20:31.200,0:20:34.960
what kind of effect would something like

0:20:32.880,0:20:38.559
that have on you

0:20:34.960,0:20:39.919
well yeah i really like um having a

0:20:38.559,0:20:43.200
permanent drawing

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to like that represents a positive

0:20:43.200,0:20:47.039
aspect of my life

0:20:44.799,0:20:48.400
especially when i draw something of the

0:20:47.039,0:20:51.760
cats it makes

0:20:48.400,0:20:52.240
it like makes me think it reminds me of

0:20:51.760,0:20:55.679
them

0:20:52.240,0:20:58.640
i think of how amazingly silly they are

0:20:55.679,0:20:59.679
um having something like that really

0:20:58.640,0:21:02.000
does

0:20:59.679,0:21:04.080
help and a lot of times it’s kind of

0:21:02.000,0:21:04.720
similar to having an actual photo that

0:21:04.080,0:21:08.159
you took

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like like uh this says um

0:21:08.159,0:21:13.120
but that but i feel drawing it gives it

0:21:11.039,0:21:14.159
a bit more purpose to you because you’re

0:21:13.120,0:21:17.520
able

0:21:14.159,0:21:19.280
to have it expressed the way you kind of

0:21:17.520,0:21:22.000
want it to be expressed

0:21:19.280,0:21:23.440
and it makes and it reminds you of a

0:21:22.000,0:21:24.720
particular instance where

0:21:23.440,0:21:26.480
when you were drawing it you were

0:21:24.720,0:21:28.640
thinking of that particular instance

0:21:26.480,0:21:29.919
that kind of thing yeah and and the

0:21:28.640,0:21:31.919
interesting thing is it’s your

0:21:29.919,0:21:32.640
interpretation of that moment in time

0:21:31.919,0:21:34.880
where

0:21:32.640,0:21:36.080
somebody else who may have been at the

0:21:34.880,0:21:39.120
same

0:21:36.080,0:21:40.320
dance or or wedding or whatever

0:21:39.120,0:21:41.760
they look it up from a different

0:21:40.320,0:21:43.120
perspective so when they see your

0:21:41.760,0:21:45.120
drawing they even get

0:21:43.120,0:21:46.559
to take a little extra out of it seeing

0:21:45.120,0:21:48.240
it from your perspective which is kind

0:21:46.559,0:21:50.880
of neat

0:21:48.240,0:21:51.919
so the last thing they talk about here

0:21:50.880,0:21:54.799
is that art

0:21:51.919,0:21:58.400
is good at finding a lifelong interest

0:21:54.799,0:22:01.200
one of the reasons why it’s uh

0:21:58.400,0:22:03.840
experiential treatment through art has

0:22:01.200,0:22:06.159
produced such remarkable results

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is that allows teenagers to find a

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lifelong engagement

0:22:08.640,0:22:13.440
this passion may persist well beyond the

0:22:11.600,0:22:15.600
their clinical treatment

0:22:13.440,0:22:16.720
creative therapies can produce a sense

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of value

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both in the present and the future these

0:22:19.760,0:22:24.400
healthy coping mechanisms can replace

0:22:21.919,0:22:27.280
risky and dangerous behaviors

0:22:24.400,0:22:29.120
art therapy acts as an aid to those

0:22:27.280,0:22:32.320
struggling with depression

0:22:29.120,0:22:36.320
substance abuse low self-worth

0:22:32.320,0:22:39.200
and other serious mental issues

0:22:36.320,0:22:40.240
so i know you don’t suffer from really

0:22:39.200,0:22:41.919
any of those

0:22:40.240,0:22:43.520
particular ones although we did go

0:22:41.919,0:22:45.039
through a depression phase here that we

0:22:43.520,0:22:48.400
work through

0:22:45.039,0:22:51.280
does art help you when you

0:22:48.400,0:22:52.880
get into those moods you know everyone

0:22:51.280,0:22:55.600
gets into that

0:22:52.880,0:22:57.120
that that lull that down mood especially

0:22:55.600,0:22:58.000
nowadays with the pandemic and

0:22:57.120,0:23:00.880
everything

0:22:58.000,0:23:02.400
does art help to lift you out of that

0:23:00.880,0:23:05.679
funk we’ll call it

0:23:02.400,0:23:09.840
yeah i’d say that be doing anything

0:23:05.679,0:23:12.400
creative really helps me to kind of

0:23:09.840,0:23:14.400
step away from reality because art is

0:23:12.400,0:23:17.600
really what you make of it

0:23:14.400,0:23:20.480
and um if you want to make and

0:23:17.600,0:23:21.840
stepping away from reality and making

0:23:20.480,0:23:24.400
something fantasy

0:23:21.840,0:23:25.840
always seems to help me because it’s

0:23:24.400,0:23:28.240
taking a step back

0:23:25.840,0:23:29.600
from the real world that although you

0:23:28.240,0:23:31.840
shouldn’t leave it fully

0:23:29.600,0:23:33.280
it’s still always good to get to get

0:23:31.840,0:23:36.320
away for a little bit

0:23:33.280,0:23:37.120
and art is a good way of doing that

0:23:36.320,0:23:40.240
because

0:23:37.120,0:23:41.120
your art is you make art the way you

0:23:40.240,0:23:44.159
want to make it

0:23:41.120,0:23:45.039
it’s your own it’s your own ideas it’s

0:23:44.159,0:23:46.960
your own

0:23:45.039,0:23:50.080
way of life and it’s your own point of

0:23:46.960,0:23:53.279
view that’s a very good point

0:23:50.080,0:23:55.919
um excuse me that was all we had for

0:23:53.279,0:23:57.200
some of the clinical benefits of it

0:23:55.919,0:23:58.799
we’re going to take a quick break and

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we’ll come back and we’ll talk about

0:23:58.799,0:24:05.840
you and your art

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welcome back to insights into teens

0:25:13.760,0:25:18.880
today we’re talking about

0:25:15.120,0:25:21.840
creativity and specifically artwork

0:25:18.880,0:25:22.240
so madison you enjoy various forms of

0:25:21.840,0:25:24.240
art

0:25:22.240,0:25:26.960
painting drawing digital art and so

0:25:24.240,0:25:29.840
forth what started you on your journey

0:25:26.960,0:25:29.840
to making art

0:25:30.000,0:25:35.760
well as a young child

0:25:33.600,0:25:36.880
i’ll say i was a taught i’ll say a

0:25:35.760,0:25:39.440
toddler

0:25:36.880,0:25:40.480
um i kind of had that instinct where i

0:25:39.440,0:25:43.039
like to draw

0:25:40.480,0:25:44.320
what i saw and what i found cool that

0:25:43.039,0:25:48.000
kind of stuff

0:25:44.320,0:25:51.200
um that kind of was what kind of

0:25:48.000,0:25:53.440
made me to start doing actual art

0:25:51.200,0:25:55.279
but i’d say what actually started my

0:25:53.440,0:25:58.799
full-on passion for art

0:25:55.279,0:26:00.400
would be the comics i made um

0:25:58.799,0:26:02.000
specifically what made me start the

0:26:00.400,0:26:04.080
comics was when we were at

0:26:02.000,0:26:05.679
um we went to a comic book store for

0:26:04.080,0:26:07.520
free comic book day

0:26:05.679,0:26:09.279
and i saw this particular spongebob

0:26:07.520,0:26:10.799
comic at the time i really love

0:26:09.279,0:26:14.080
spongebob and i still love it

0:26:10.799,0:26:15.360
um so we’d gotten the comic as well as

0:26:14.080,0:26:19.120
some other comics

0:26:15.360,0:26:21.039
um and i read that thing non-stop and

0:26:19.120,0:26:23.520
it one day the thought kind of came to

0:26:21.039,0:26:24.080
me what if i made my own comics like i

0:26:23.520,0:26:27.039
was thinking

0:26:24.080,0:26:29.200
about like how cool the artwork was and

0:26:27.039,0:26:29.679
how cool it was to make these stories

0:26:29.200,0:26:32.000
and then

0:26:29.679,0:26:34.400
and then i’m like why not make my own

0:26:32.000,0:26:36.960
and that’s kind of what started my

0:26:34.400,0:26:37.919
career in comics which inevitably

0:26:36.960,0:26:41.760
started my career in

0:26:37.919,0:26:43.919
art interesting so

0:26:41.760,0:26:45.520
i i read comic books too so i totally

0:26:43.919,0:26:46.640
get what the inspiration is from here i

0:26:45.520,0:26:49.440
don’t have

0:26:46.640,0:26:51.919
um an ounce of artistic ability

0:26:49.440,0:26:53.919
whatsoever to draw

0:26:51.919,0:26:55.360
stick figures are a challenge for me in

0:26:53.919,0:26:58.000
most cases so

0:26:55.360,0:26:59.760
i wish i had the the ability to draw

0:26:58.000,0:27:03.440
because i would love to do comics

0:26:59.760,0:27:06.159
do you still create comics um

0:27:03.440,0:27:07.919
no i actually stopped a couple years ago

0:27:06.159,0:27:09.679
any particular reason

0:27:07.919,0:27:10.960
i mean there were multiple reasons that

0:27:09.679,0:27:13.440
kind of went into it

0:27:10.960,0:27:14.400
um it was when it was in sixth grade

0:27:13.440,0:27:16.799
when i stopped

0:27:14.400,0:27:17.919
um part of the reason for stopping was

0:27:16.799,0:27:19.840
that i was kind of

0:27:17.919,0:27:22.320
just busy with school work i didn’t have

0:27:19.840,0:27:26.159
as much free time on my hands

0:27:22.320,0:27:26.720
um and with a lot of school work going

0:27:26.159,0:27:30.480
on

0:27:26.720,0:27:32.880
and um a little less emotional control

0:27:30.480,0:27:34.640
it kind of became hard for me to create

0:27:32.880,0:27:36.720
um the comics

0:27:34.640,0:27:38.640
another reason was just i kind of got

0:27:36.720,0:27:39.919
tired of the comics i’d been doing it

0:27:38.640,0:27:42.080
for

0:27:39.919,0:27:43.360
three years ever since i was in fourth

0:27:42.080,0:27:45.360
grade and

0:27:43.360,0:27:48.240
honestly creating the comics felt more

0:27:45.360,0:27:51.120
like a chore and less like a hobby

0:27:48.240,0:27:52.880
um so that’s kind of why i stopped and

0:27:51.120,0:27:54.240
the final reason i’d say was because i

0:27:52.880,0:27:57.039
was trying to

0:27:54.240,0:27:58.000
improve my art style ever since i first

0:27:57.039,0:28:00.399
made it i was

0:27:58.000,0:28:02.559
using the same kind of stickiest but

0:28:00.399,0:28:05.600
spongebob looking style

0:28:02.559,0:28:08.720
and i although i had improved over time

0:28:05.600,0:28:12.080
i kind of got tired of repeatedly

0:28:08.720,0:28:14.159
drawing these little characters and

0:28:12.080,0:28:16.240
i honestly started to feel as though it

0:28:14.159,0:28:17.279
was a little less fulfilling for art

0:28:16.240,0:28:19.760
specifically

0:28:17.279,0:28:21.200
so i kind of stopped in order to improve

0:28:19.760,0:28:24.000
my style a bit more

0:28:21.200,0:28:26.399
it’s interesting that you would have

0:28:24.000,0:28:29.679
been cognizant at that age

0:28:26.399,0:28:31.279
that you knew that the style you were in

0:28:29.679,0:28:31.919
was holding you back so that’s that’s

0:28:31.279,0:28:34.960
actually

0:28:31.919,0:28:36.880
a very mature approach to it thanks

0:28:34.960,0:28:38.240
so you still do art now but what’s your

0:28:36.880,0:28:40.480
preferred form

0:28:38.240,0:28:41.600
of art your preferred medium to work in

0:28:40.480,0:28:44.320
do you do you

0:28:41.600,0:28:46.559
sketch do you paint do you sculpt do you

0:28:44.320,0:28:49.840
digital art what do you do now

0:28:46.559,0:28:52.159
i’d say right now um i mainly do digital

0:28:49.840,0:28:54.559
art i do sometimes experiment with other

0:28:52.159,0:28:56.559
mediums but i’d say digital it is

0:28:54.559,0:28:59.679
probably the one i like the most

0:28:56.559,0:29:01.840
i did originally um sketch a lot

0:28:59.679,0:29:03.279
um but being left handed and normally

0:29:01.840,0:29:05.039
using a pencil

0:29:03.279,0:29:06.640
it would kind of smudge a lot and it

0:29:05.039,0:29:08.399
would kind of get

0:29:06.640,0:29:10.000
a little messy and i would never really

0:29:08.399,0:29:11.600
be able to color it in because for some

0:29:10.000,0:29:13.600
reason it always looked bad when i

0:29:11.600,0:29:16.080
colored it in because

0:29:13.600,0:29:18.320
like the pencil kind of smudged and

0:29:16.080,0:29:20.720
smudged with all the other colors so

0:29:18.320,0:29:22.799
i never really it never really looked

0:29:20.720,0:29:25.919
nice but when i was able to do

0:29:22.799,0:29:27.039
digital art it looked a lot nicer i was

0:29:25.919,0:29:29.679
actually able to color

0:29:27.039,0:29:30.640
it in and it wasn’t a smudgy mess so i

0:29:29.679,0:29:33.760
definitely think

0:29:30.640,0:29:34.480
um that’s digital art is my preferred

0:29:33.760,0:29:37.200
medium

0:29:34.480,0:29:37.760
um just because it is so convenient for

0:29:37.200,0:29:39.679
me

0:29:37.760,0:29:41.279
so when you do digital art how do you do

0:29:39.679,0:29:43.840
this are you using a drawing

0:29:41.279,0:29:44.399
pad on a pc using a tablet what are you

0:29:43.840,0:29:47.840
using

0:29:44.399,0:29:50.320
um i’m using my one tablet um i got

0:29:47.840,0:29:52.320
that you guys got me which you did

0:29:50.320,0:29:52.880
originally get it for me so that i would

0:29:52.320,0:29:56.080
draw

0:29:52.880,0:29:57.840
on it um and it actually took me like a

0:29:56.080,0:29:59.520
year or so before i actually started

0:29:57.840,0:30:03.039
doing full-on digital art with

0:29:59.520,0:30:07.039
it um we ended up getting me a drawing

0:30:03.039,0:30:09.360
glove because you know having your sk

0:30:07.039,0:30:11.760
having your hand on the digital surface

0:30:09.360,0:30:14.159
um kind of messed up the drawing

0:30:11.760,0:30:15.279
so i got a digital glove for that you

0:30:14.159,0:30:18.640
guys also got me

0:30:15.279,0:30:20.720
a digital uh pen

0:30:18.640,0:30:21.679
your pencil your apple pencil my apple

0:30:20.720,0:30:23.919
pencil

0:30:21.679,0:30:25.440
so that i could draw um so you’re

0:30:23.919,0:30:28.240
working off of an ipad

0:30:25.440,0:30:29.679
with a pencil apple pencil right now yep

0:30:28.240,0:30:31.440
that’s

0:30:29.679,0:30:32.880
um how i’m doing it and you find that

0:30:31.440,0:30:37.120
that gives you the level of

0:30:32.880,0:30:38.799
of control and and resolution for your

0:30:37.120,0:30:41.600
artwork that you’re comfortable with

0:30:38.799,0:30:43.279
yeah i still i like the fact that it

0:30:41.600,0:30:46.960
feels like a real pencil

0:30:43.279,0:30:49.120
and that it is like it basically like

0:30:46.960,0:30:50.399
drawing on paper because i still like

0:30:49.120,0:30:53.919
doing that

0:30:50.399,0:30:56.720
um so yeah um i like it

0:30:53.919,0:30:58.080
okay so where do you draw inspiration

0:30:56.720,0:31:01.360
for your artwork from

0:30:58.080,0:31:02.320
do you is it spontaneous is there a

0:31:01.360,0:31:04.720
theme

0:31:02.320,0:31:06.880
do you get it from everyday life what

0:31:04.720,0:31:08.960
what makes you

0:31:06.880,0:31:10.159
produce the artwork that you produce

0:31:08.960,0:31:13.600
there’s a few things

0:31:10.159,0:31:14.480
um one is specifically characters that

0:31:13.600,0:31:17.360
i’ve made up

0:31:14.480,0:31:18.080
um um a lot of it that i’ve a lot of

0:31:17.360,0:31:21.679
them i’ve made

0:31:18.080,0:31:24.320
in my in the one app um gosha club

0:31:21.679,0:31:25.200
and i’ve been using that as somewhat of

0:31:24.320,0:31:28.080
a way to

0:31:25.200,0:31:30.080
like i draw those characters from it and

0:31:28.080,0:31:31.200
i change up their poses put them more in

0:31:30.080,0:31:32.880
my art style

0:31:31.200,0:31:35.039
and give them a little more personality

0:31:32.880,0:31:36.320
than just a regular character design

0:31:35.039,0:31:38.720
from the app

0:31:36.320,0:31:40.399
another thing is my daily life a lot of

0:31:38.720,0:31:42.799
the times with the cats

0:31:40.399,0:31:44.960
um like there was this one in like i

0:31:42.799,0:31:47.519
come up with a lot of cute things

0:31:44.960,0:31:49.039
just today um my cat pumpkin kind of

0:31:47.519,0:31:51.679
sits like this a lot

0:31:49.039,0:31:52.240
um on the ground and i kind of thought

0:31:51.679,0:31:54.960
of her

0:31:52.240,0:31:55.840
as like being a ceo and like i thought

0:31:54.960,0:31:58.640
of her

0:31:55.840,0:31:59.519
at a desk with a giant chair in a little

0:31:58.640,0:32:02.240
tuxedo

0:31:59.519,0:32:03.120
and like trying to stand up so that she

0:32:02.240,0:32:06.320
looked like

0:32:03.120,0:32:09.360
intimidating like a boss but she really

0:32:06.320,0:32:12.840
wasn’t and she just looked adorable

0:32:09.360,0:32:14.399
so that is um also where i draw

0:32:12.840,0:32:17.760
inspiration um

0:32:14.399,0:32:21.200
as well as kind of art challenges um

0:32:17.760,0:32:22.640
uh like redrawing your old art um

0:32:21.200,0:32:24.640
that was kind of a challenge that other

0:32:22.640,0:32:25.120
people did and i kind of wanted to do as

0:32:24.640,0:32:28.159
well

0:32:25.120,0:32:28.640
um i do some other i do other versions

0:32:28.159,0:32:31.279
of it

0:32:28.640,0:32:32.880
um there are other different uh types of

0:32:31.279,0:32:34.960
challenges i’ve tried

0:32:32.880,0:32:36.880
so yeah i guess those are where i draw

0:32:34.960,0:32:39.919
my inspiration from art

0:32:36.880,0:32:41.760
so you talked about your style of art

0:32:39.919,0:32:44.159
now there’s a lot of different styles of

0:32:41.760,0:32:46.720
art out there there’s formal definitions

0:32:44.159,0:32:48.960
there’s informal definitions

0:32:46.720,0:32:51.519
what how would you characterize your

0:32:48.960,0:32:53.039
style of art how would you describe it

0:32:51.519,0:32:54.799
well i definitely know i’m not into

0:32:53.039,0:32:57.039
realistic art oh

0:32:54.799,0:32:58.880
i don’t really know how to do draws

0:32:57.039,0:33:02.000
things realistically

0:32:58.880,0:33:05.120
i’m a lot more into character design um

0:33:02.000,0:33:06.559
and drawing specific characters it’s

0:33:05.120,0:33:09.600
kind of like in a

0:33:06.559,0:33:12.159
a mix of cartoon and realistic

0:33:09.600,0:33:14.320
like i try to draw them in realistic

0:33:12.159,0:33:17.519
poses and stuff but still in a

0:33:14.320,0:33:21.039
like round but pointy cartoony style

0:33:17.519,0:33:24.799
um there’s a specific way i draw faces

0:33:21.039,0:33:26.640
um a specific way i draw necks um

0:33:24.799,0:33:28.640
i do try to make them look somewhat

0:33:26.640,0:33:29.600
realistic but still cartoony at the same

0:33:28.640,0:33:33.200
time

0:33:29.600,0:33:36.320
so what inspired you to develop

0:33:33.200,0:33:38.799
this style you know like a lot of

0:33:36.320,0:33:41.440
artists don’t develop their own style

0:33:38.799,0:33:42.960
until later in their experience once

0:33:41.440,0:33:45.679
they’ve had a chance to sample

0:33:42.960,0:33:46.159
other styles so a lot of young artists

0:33:45.679,0:33:48.559
like you

0:33:46.159,0:33:51.200
tend to emulate styles that they’re

0:33:48.559,0:33:53.840
learning as they go through

0:33:51.200,0:33:55.039
what what prompted you at such an early

0:33:53.840,0:33:56.960
age to sort of

0:33:55.039,0:33:59.600
develop your own signature style which i

0:33:56.960,0:34:01.840
think is fantastic by the way

0:33:59.600,0:34:02.880
well yeah part of it was drawing

0:34:01.840,0:34:05.440
inspiration

0:34:02.880,0:34:06.159
from other artists i was still kind of

0:34:05.440,0:34:09.280
one of those

0:34:06.159,0:34:09.839
kids um and then i realized that i

0:34:09.280,0:34:12.560
didn’t

0:34:09.839,0:34:13.679
really want to just and i kind of

0:34:12.560,0:34:15.760
decided that

0:34:13.679,0:34:17.359
you know what let’s stop this and kind

0:34:15.760,0:34:20.079
of go my own path

0:34:17.359,0:34:21.040
then i kind of started experimenting for

0:34:20.079,0:34:23.359
a little bit

0:34:21.040,0:34:26.480
experimenting different ways to draw

0:34:23.359,0:34:28.960
faces different ways to draw bodies

0:34:26.480,0:34:30.320
and eventually i did come up with my own

0:34:28.960,0:34:32.800
style for it

0:34:30.320,0:34:34.560
and even now i’m kind of tweaking things

0:34:32.800,0:34:36.320
to make them look a little more

0:34:34.560,0:34:37.760
to make them look a little better to the

0:34:36.320,0:34:41.280
way i want them to be

0:34:37.760,0:34:44.560
very interesting so

0:34:41.280,0:34:47.440
do you think you’re destined for

0:34:44.560,0:34:48.639
some sort of art related career when you

0:34:47.440,0:34:51.520
graduate

0:34:48.639,0:34:52.399
high school or college or whatever more

0:34:51.520,0:34:55.119
than likely

0:34:52.399,0:34:56.240
i don’t think i’ll be making paintings

0:34:55.119,0:34:58.880
specifically

0:34:56.240,0:35:00.320
in that art form but i do think that i

0:34:58.880,0:35:03.200
still want to have

0:35:00.320,0:35:04.640
some career that is based on my artistic

0:35:03.200,0:35:07.359
ability because

0:35:04.640,0:35:09.680
i feel as though it’s i’m i feel as

0:35:07.359,0:35:11.280
though i’ve put so much work into it now

0:35:09.680,0:35:12.320
it would be kind of a waste to get rid

0:35:11.280,0:35:14.960
of it

0:35:12.320,0:35:15.359
um or you know i just do it for a hobby

0:35:14.960,0:35:18.640
and

0:35:15.359,0:35:20.079
have a art related job

0:35:18.640,0:35:21.359
interesting yeah i guess that works

0:35:20.079,0:35:23.280
either way as long as you’re doing what

0:35:21.359,0:35:26.560
you what you enjoy doing right

0:35:23.280,0:35:28.800
yep so let’s take a quick break

0:35:26.560,0:35:30.800
and we’ll come back and we’ll talk about

0:35:28.800,0:35:34.720
the steps to pursuing your

0:35:30.800,0:35:34.720
passion for artwork when we come back

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welcome back to our creativity podcast

0:36:47.200,0:36:52.000
talking about artwork and madison’s

0:36:50.240,0:36:55.599
artwork so i want to talk about

0:36:52.000,0:36:56.480
what what what use steps or what steps

0:36:55.599,0:37:00.000
you take to

0:36:56.480,0:37:01.839
pursue um your passion for artwork

0:37:00.000,0:37:03.839
and really the i guess the the first and

0:37:01.839,0:37:07.200
most important question is

0:37:03.839,0:37:08.079
how did you learn how to draw um a lot

0:37:07.200,0:37:11.280
of it

0:37:08.079,0:37:12.640
um actually came from inspiration in my

0:37:11.280,0:37:15.680
daily life

0:37:12.640,0:37:17.839
um when i was first drawing um i did a

0:37:15.680,0:37:21.040
lot of family portraits of you guys

0:37:17.839,0:37:23.680
but also a couple things that i just saw

0:37:21.040,0:37:26.480
randomly and i wanted to draw i noticed

0:37:23.680,0:37:29.440
looking back at a lot of my old art

0:37:26.480,0:37:30.240
um a lot of it is stuff that i would

0:37:29.440,0:37:32.960
have seen

0:37:30.240,0:37:35.200
when i was younger and it was kind of

0:37:32.960,0:37:37.599
the same thing when i started the comics

0:37:35.200,0:37:38.560
like that one comic book inspired me to

0:37:37.599,0:37:40.560
make

0:37:38.560,0:37:42.079
the comics and the very first comic i

0:37:40.560,0:37:44.640
made was a spec

0:37:42.079,0:37:47.359
which was kind of an alternate universe

0:37:44.640,0:37:49.359
version of the comics main story

0:37:47.359,0:37:51.520
and i s and i kind of went off of some

0:37:49.359,0:37:53.359
spongebob episodes at first before i

0:37:51.520,0:37:54.640
ended up going into my original story

0:37:53.359,0:37:56.880
lines

0:37:54.640,0:37:58.079
um and when i was trying to reform my

0:37:56.880,0:38:00.720
style i did

0:37:58.079,0:38:02.160
kind of take inspiration until i finally

0:38:00.720,0:38:04.320
said you know what

0:38:02.160,0:38:06.079
let’s drift off and do something new

0:38:04.320,0:38:11.359
interesting

0:38:06.079,0:38:15.839
so kobe’s affected everything obviously

0:38:11.359,0:38:19.200
how the restrictions surrounding kovid

0:38:15.839,0:38:20.960
impacted your creativity well

0:38:19.200,0:38:22.240
it’s kind of actually what got me into

0:38:20.960,0:38:25.040
digital art

0:38:22.240,0:38:26.560
it actually got me into a lot of my

0:38:25.040,0:38:29.359
newer hobbies

0:38:26.560,0:38:30.000
um i was still kind i was still drawing

0:38:29.359,0:38:33.200
hand

0:38:30.000,0:38:35.440
i was still hand drawing at the time um

0:38:33.200,0:38:36.480
and then like when i saw other people

0:38:35.440,0:38:39.119
starting to do

0:38:36.480,0:38:40.880
digital art and i remembered hey wait a

0:38:39.119,0:38:41.920
minute i have some digital art apps on

0:38:40.880,0:38:43.920
my ipad

0:38:41.920,0:38:46.000
i kind of started doing a bit of digital

0:38:43.920,0:38:48.640
art i experimented i

0:38:46.000,0:38:52.160
had been and at some point mommy had

0:38:48.640,0:38:54.960
found out when like i was drawing

0:38:52.160,0:38:55.599
when i was drawing with my one hand um

0:38:54.960,0:38:58.560
and she

0:38:55.599,0:38:59.040
kind of and then it kind of came out

0:38:58.560,0:39:01.920
saying

0:38:59.040,0:39:02.880
hey i like doing digital art and then we

0:39:01.920,0:39:06.320
got some

0:39:02.880,0:39:09.200
supplies for me so that i would be

0:39:06.320,0:39:10.720
so that i’d do digital art more and i’ve

0:39:09.200,0:39:13.119
been using all of them

0:39:10.720,0:39:16.160
interesting interesting so it hasn’t

0:39:13.119,0:39:19.200
impeded your ability to do art it’s

0:39:16.160,0:39:21.599
it’s kind of opened up new

0:39:19.200,0:39:23.520
avenues for you it sounds like yeah it

0:39:21.599,0:39:27.040
has opened new avenues for me

0:39:23.520,0:39:29.520
that’s very cool so my expression

0:39:27.040,0:39:30.480
of creativity like i said does not come

0:39:29.520,0:39:33.839
in the form of

0:39:30.480,0:39:36.640
artwork um but it’s in the form of

0:39:33.839,0:39:38.079
creative writing typically for me and

0:39:36.640,0:39:40.240
inevitably

0:39:38.079,0:39:42.000
no matter how much i tend to write and

0:39:40.240,0:39:44.560
publish or whatever

0:39:42.000,0:39:45.359
i’ve run into writer’s block eventually

0:39:44.560,0:39:47.119
and

0:39:45.359,0:39:48.560
i always find it challenging to work

0:39:47.119,0:39:50.480
through that so what do you do to

0:39:48.560,0:39:52.960
motivate yourself

0:39:50.480,0:39:55.200
when you find yourself in a creative

0:39:52.960,0:39:57.440
slump when it comes to artwork what

0:39:55.200,0:39:59.280
drags you out of that how do you how do

0:39:57.440,0:40:02.480
you get over that speed bump

0:39:59.280,0:40:03.359
a lot of that is actually kind of brings

0:40:02.480,0:40:06.480
me into

0:40:03.359,0:40:08.160
writing and creating actual characters

0:40:06.480,0:40:09.839
when i create a new character i’m kind

0:40:08.160,0:40:12.160
of like okay

0:40:09.839,0:40:13.599
well when i do have a creative slum i’m

0:40:12.160,0:40:15.520
like okay

0:40:13.599,0:40:16.720
let’s create a new character and try

0:40:15.520,0:40:18.880
drawing them

0:40:16.720,0:40:20.000
then i’m able to kind of have a few more

0:40:18.880,0:40:21.920
ideas

0:40:20.000,0:40:24.079
i come up with a character a slight

0:40:21.920,0:40:26.960
little story about them so i know

0:40:24.079,0:40:28.880
how to work with them and such and

0:40:26.960,0:40:29.760
that’s kind of the way i get out of that

0:40:28.880,0:40:31.920
creative

0:40:29.760,0:40:33.839
out of that one creative slum another

0:40:31.920,0:40:34.720
way is playing the sims i take i

0:40:33.839,0:40:36.640
actually take a

0:40:34.720,0:40:38.160
decent amount of creative inspiration

0:40:36.640,0:40:40.960
from the sims i’ve actually

0:40:38.160,0:40:41.599
drawn some of the specific packs as

0:40:40.960,0:40:45.280
actual

0:40:41.599,0:40:46.800
characters so yeah there’s a few things

0:40:45.280,0:40:48.000
that help me motivate

0:40:46.800,0:40:51.119
well that’s interesting that your

0:40:48.000,0:40:53.599
motivation to get out of that slump

0:40:51.119,0:40:56.960
comes from other mediums of art i think

0:40:53.599,0:40:59.200
that’s that’s actually very unique

0:40:56.960,0:41:00.400
so let’s talk about encouragement so

0:40:59.200,0:41:02.480
it’s it’s hard to do

0:41:00.400,0:41:04.319
things that are challenging and require

0:41:02.480,0:41:06.000
skill if you don’t have

0:41:04.319,0:41:07.440
encouragement you don’t have people that

0:41:06.000,0:41:10.560
are backing you

0:41:07.440,0:41:12.480
so do you feel that you get sufficient

0:41:10.560,0:41:14.800
amount of encouragement for your

0:41:12.480,0:41:17.119
artwork endeavors from mommy and i or

0:41:14.800,0:41:19.760
your friends or your teachers

0:41:17.119,0:41:21.920
um or do you feel like you’re you you’re

0:41:19.760,0:41:24.400
going it alone a lot of times

0:41:21.920,0:41:26.720
um well i definitely know that you guys

0:41:24.400,0:41:28.960
are very supportive you guys have helped

0:41:26.720,0:41:32.000
me get all the supplies i need

0:41:28.960,0:41:33.920
for creating art and you in and you

0:41:32.000,0:41:35.040
basically kind of give me assignments to

0:41:33.920,0:41:37.839
do for art

0:41:35.040,0:41:39.200
like the 1d d thing you asked me to make

0:41:37.839,0:41:42.160
a poster for you

0:41:39.200,0:41:42.880
um and i could make it what however way

0:41:42.160,0:41:46.000
i wanted

0:41:42.880,0:41:47.119
you just needed a poster for it um and i

0:41:46.000,0:41:50.240
was able to

0:41:47.119,0:41:52.319
experience a new creative way and i

0:41:50.240,0:41:54.720
realized that i really kind of liked it

0:41:52.319,0:41:55.839
and i definitely say you and mommy are

0:41:54.720,0:41:59.280
very supportive

0:41:55.839,0:42:00.960
of my creative of me being creative and

0:41:59.280,0:42:03.599
i know my friends

0:42:00.960,0:42:04.240
are really supportive of the fact that

0:42:03.599,0:42:05.760
um

0:42:04.240,0:42:07.839
i’ve been creative because they were

0:42:05.760,0:42:08.480
also kind of an inspiration for making

0:42:07.839,0:42:12.079
comics

0:42:08.480,0:42:15.359
for me so i i’d say my friends

0:42:12.079,0:42:18.800
also really do help me when i

0:42:15.359,0:42:20.480
do really like the fact that i do art

0:42:18.800,0:42:22.000
that’s great you know especially when

0:42:20.480,0:42:22.960
your friends are into it they like what

0:42:22.000,0:42:25.280
you do

0:42:22.960,0:42:27.040
because you get that feedback you know

0:42:25.280,0:42:30.000
you know when you do art

0:42:27.040,0:42:30.319
and show us the art you know i try to

0:42:30.000,0:42:32.400
stay

0:42:30.319,0:42:33.520
positive you know i certainly don’t want

0:42:32.400,0:42:35.440
to be negative

0:42:33.520,0:42:37.040
but i also don’t want to sugarcoat it

0:42:35.440,0:42:39.599
because if there’s areas for you to

0:42:37.040,0:42:41.599
improve you need to hear about that

0:42:39.599,0:42:43.680
so one of the things that i do try to do

0:42:41.599,0:42:45.599
is creatively criticize

0:42:43.680,0:42:47.119
anything that i think needs to be

0:42:45.599,0:42:50.319
improved on

0:42:47.119,0:42:51.760
and to your credit you’re very receptive

0:42:50.319,0:42:55.760
to that type of

0:42:51.760,0:42:58.319
of input and

0:42:55.760,0:42:59.760
you incorporate that into your future

0:42:58.319,0:43:01.200
artwork

0:42:59.760,0:43:03.440
do you find that getting that

0:43:01.200,0:43:06.960
constructive criticism is something

0:43:03.440,0:43:09.920
that has helped improve you as an artist

0:43:06.960,0:43:10.800
i mean yeah like although you don’t want

0:43:09.920,0:43:13.200
to be mean

0:43:10.800,0:43:15.359
you don’t you always like you don’t want

0:43:13.200,0:43:17.440
to always say that someone is doing

0:43:15.359,0:43:19.920
something perfectly because

0:43:17.440,0:43:21.839
someone could do a pretty bad drawing

0:43:19.920,0:43:22.560
and you’re like oh wow that’s really

0:43:21.839,0:43:24.960
nice

0:43:22.560,0:43:27.200
and like you can like shiver sugarcoat

0:43:24.960,0:43:29.359
coated to the point of accession

0:43:27.200,0:43:30.640
and they’ll and they won’t be able to

0:43:29.359,0:43:32.640
improve on it

0:43:30.640,0:43:34.880
now i don’t think it’s bad if you do

0:43:32.640,0:43:37.440
want to say something nice

0:43:34.880,0:43:38.880
um and i do think that you need to be

0:43:37.440,0:43:41.760
good with criticism

0:43:38.880,0:43:43.920
in order to not criticize them to the

0:43:41.760,0:43:46.720
point where it makes them upset

0:43:43.920,0:43:48.319
but don’t always sure code everything

0:43:46.720,0:43:49.920
because then they’ll never improve and

0:43:48.319,0:43:52.480
they’ll think they’re just perfect at

0:43:49.920,0:43:54.240
it and they won’t try anything new and

0:43:52.480,0:43:56.640
improve themselves

0:43:54.240,0:43:58.240
very good point so we talked in the

0:43:56.640,0:44:01.280
previous segment about whether or not

0:43:58.240,0:44:04.800
you thought you would pursue a career

0:44:01.280,0:44:08.560
uh in an art related field if you

0:44:04.800,0:44:11.680
did what ideas have you had about the

0:44:08.560,0:44:14.079
type of career that you would go into

0:44:11.680,0:44:15.200
that would allow you to take advantage

0:44:14.079,0:44:17.839
of this

0:44:15.200,0:44:18.560
skill you’ve developed over the last you

0:44:17.839,0:44:21.839
know

0:44:18.560,0:44:24.079
so many years um

0:44:21.839,0:44:25.839
well i’m going into the engineering

0:44:24.079,0:44:28.640
academy for high school

0:44:25.839,0:44:29.920
and a lot of that um also has something

0:44:28.640,0:44:33.440
to do with art

0:44:29.920,0:44:35.680
um and um i definitely think that i’m

0:44:33.440,0:44:36.079
not going to have a full-on career where

0:44:35.680,0:44:39.040
i

0:44:36.079,0:44:41.359
draw specifically but having a career

0:44:39.040,0:44:42.160
where i have the chance to draw

0:44:41.359,0:44:45.280
something

0:44:42.160,0:44:45.680
um is probably something that i want to

0:44:45.280,0:44:47.599
do

0:44:45.680,0:44:49.119
like in school now like there are some

0:44:47.599,0:44:51.760
assignments where

0:44:49.119,0:44:52.319
like we need to draw something for it

0:44:51.760,0:44:54.319
and

0:44:52.319,0:44:55.920
i kind of figure as though that’s kind

0:44:54.319,0:44:58.319
of something that

0:44:55.920,0:44:59.760
i want my career to be like like it’s

0:44:58.319,0:45:02.800
not going to be entirely

0:44:59.760,0:45:06.160
art based but it still has some elements

0:45:02.800,0:45:09.280
um that can help me hone my creative

0:45:06.160,0:45:11.280
way and make art very good

0:45:09.280,0:45:12.960
so when i gave you the assignment for

0:45:11.280,0:45:16.480
the poster for the d d

0:45:12.960,0:45:18.400
session um i had asked you

0:45:16.480,0:45:19.680
to do it in a style other than your

0:45:18.400,0:45:22.800
signature style

0:45:19.680,0:45:24.800
just as a challenge to you and

0:45:22.800,0:45:27.200
to your credit you stepped up and you

0:45:24.800,0:45:30.000
did a very good job stepping outside

0:45:27.200,0:45:32.800
that comfort zone

0:45:30.000,0:45:33.119
what is the next challenge for you what

0:45:32.800,0:45:36.560
like

0:45:33.119,0:45:39.680
what what’s the next creative obstacle

0:45:36.560,0:45:41.119
that you want to get past to expand your

0:45:39.680,0:45:42.240
ability you’ve already recognized the

0:45:41.119,0:45:45.440
fact that

0:45:42.240,0:45:46.400
working in comics was not helping you to

0:45:45.440,0:45:49.200
excel

0:45:46.400,0:45:50.000
so you you had the forethought to step

0:45:49.200,0:45:52.400
outside of that

0:45:50.000,0:45:54.319
and move into something else if you were

0:45:52.400,0:45:57.040
to change things right now

0:45:54.319,0:45:58.400
and learn a new skill what skill do you

0:45:57.040,0:46:00.000
think you’d like to learn from an

0:45:58.400,0:46:02.720
artistic standpoint

0:46:00.000,0:46:04.160
that would help to elevate your artistic

0:46:02.720,0:46:07.760
abilities

0:46:04.160,0:46:10.480
um i think maybe

0:46:07.760,0:46:12.480
drawing things other than characters

0:46:10.480,0:46:15.520
i’ve gotten a lot of um

0:46:12.480,0:46:17.680
way with withdrawing people but i’m not

0:46:15.520,0:46:21.200
particularly well with animals

0:46:17.680,0:46:23.040
or inanimate objects specifically um

0:46:21.200,0:46:25.200
i’ve done a couple drawings with the

0:46:23.040,0:46:26.720
cats but i definitely say they’re not my

0:46:25.200,0:46:29.040
favorites because

0:46:26.720,0:46:32.560
i don’t particularly answer the drones

0:46:29.040,0:46:32.560
drawings oh okay just checking

0:46:34.400,0:46:39.839
um and they’re not the drawings aren’t

0:46:37.599,0:46:41.680
particularly my favorite drawings

0:46:39.839,0:46:44.800
but probably just because i haven’t

0:46:41.680,0:46:47.040
actually practiced making animals a lot

0:46:44.800,0:46:48.480
um and i’m not saying that they’re bad

0:46:47.040,0:46:51.760
it’s just i haven’t really

0:46:48.480,0:46:54.160
practiced a lot on them and if i were to

0:46:51.760,0:46:55.599
change up my style i’d try drawing more

0:46:54.160,0:47:00.319
animals

0:46:55.599,0:47:02.079
and less people okay that makes sense

0:47:00.319,0:47:03.520
so the last question i have here i don’t

0:47:02.079,0:47:04.640
want to steal your thunder from your

0:47:03.520,0:47:07.599
closing thoughts

0:47:04.640,0:47:09.599
so kind of characterize these separate

0:47:07.599,0:47:12.000
from your closing thoughts

0:47:09.599,0:47:13.359
what advice would you have for others

0:47:12.000,0:47:15.520
your age group

0:47:13.359,0:47:18.079
who might be interested in learning how

0:47:15.520,0:47:22.160
to create art how should they do it

0:47:18.079,0:47:24.640
what tools should they use what

0:47:22.160,0:47:26.000
techniques should they you know start

0:47:24.640,0:47:28.960
working on

0:47:26.000,0:47:30.720
um just some some general ideas of if

0:47:28.960,0:47:32.000
someone came to you today and said hey i

0:47:30.720,0:47:35.440
love what you do

0:47:32.000,0:47:36.960
how can i get into that too um well i’d

0:47:35.440,0:47:39.040
start off by saying

0:47:36.960,0:47:41.359
find stuff you like about it and try

0:47:39.040,0:47:43.200
them out like if you

0:47:41.359,0:47:46.559
if you think that there’s a particular

0:47:43.200,0:47:46.559
thing about art like

0:47:47.040,0:47:54.480
uh like costume designs

0:47:50.960,0:47:55.680
like if you like costumes of characters

0:47:54.480,0:47:58.640
that people make

0:47:55.680,0:48:00.000
why not try drawing costumes like i say

0:47:58.640,0:48:02.000
that try to get in

0:48:00.000,0:48:03.040
like think of something that you like

0:48:02.000,0:48:05.440
about the drawing

0:48:03.040,0:48:06.640
and try drawing something like that for

0:48:05.440,0:48:08.880
yourself

0:48:06.640,0:48:10.720
that can kind of get you into art

0:48:08.880,0:48:14.880
because it focuses

0:48:10.720,0:48:18.319
less on the parts of art you can’t do um

0:48:14.880,0:48:21.280
and more in the parts that you love so

0:48:18.319,0:48:22.800
i definitely think it’s um that is

0:48:21.280,0:48:25.200
something that you should probably do

0:48:22.800,0:48:26.079
another thing is try taking some

0:48:25.200,0:48:28.240
inspiration

0:48:26.079,0:48:29.440
like you can take inspiration from

0:48:28.240,0:48:31.200
multiple different people

0:48:29.440,0:48:33.599
you’re not necessarily stealing it but

0:48:31.200,0:48:36.480
change it up um

0:48:33.599,0:48:37.040
make it your own and it’s not bad to

0:48:36.480,0:48:39.920
take

0:48:37.040,0:48:42.319
get inspiration from someone but don’t

0:48:39.920,0:48:44.960
entirely steal everything they do

0:48:42.319,0:48:45.440
if you like a particular style try it

0:48:44.960,0:48:47.760
out

0:48:45.440,0:48:50.079
but make a few adjustments um for

0:48:47.760,0:48:51.520
something that you want to do

0:48:50.079,0:48:53.599
if there’s a particular thing you don’t

0:48:51.520,0:48:54.240
like about that style try changing it up

0:48:53.599,0:48:55.680
and see

0:48:54.240,0:48:58.640
if you can make it a little more

0:48:55.680,0:49:00.559
different and a bit more unique to you

0:48:58.640,0:49:02.079
okay i think that’s some fantastic

0:49:00.559,0:49:04.079
advice there

0:49:02.079,0:49:05.680
so that was all we had today we’re going

0:49:04.079,0:49:07.040
to take a quick break and come back

0:49:05.680,0:49:09.680
we’ll get your closing

0:49:07.040,0:49:10.960
uh thoughts and shout outs and then

0:49:09.680,0:49:17.839
we’ll finish up with the rest of the

0:49:10.960,0:49:20.960
podcast business

0:49:17.839,0:49:24.559
go for your closing thoughts okay so

0:49:20.960,0:49:25.040
to anyone out there who wants to try art

0:49:24.559,0:49:28.240
or

0:49:25.040,0:49:28.800
has been trying on and wants to change i

0:49:28.240,0:49:32.000
always

0:49:28.800,0:49:33.680
i just want to say that um always make

0:49:32.000,0:49:37.760
sure you try to improve

0:49:33.680,0:49:38.800
um and you’d and to people out there who

0:49:37.760,0:49:41.839
do want to help

0:49:38.800,0:49:43.200
other people and not i definitely say i

0:49:41.839,0:49:44.880
don’t i definitely want to say don’t

0:49:43.200,0:49:48.000
sugarcoat everything

0:49:44.880,0:49:51.280
um have some constructive criticism

0:49:48.000,0:49:54.319
um and help them to improve

0:49:51.280,0:49:55.359
don’t sound mean if you don’t like their

0:49:54.319,0:49:58.400
style

0:49:55.359,0:49:59.839
try to figure out ways to to help them

0:49:58.400,0:50:02.960
improve because

0:49:59.839,0:50:06.400
a lot of people just a lot of people who

0:50:02.960,0:50:08.400
um want to have who make art

0:50:06.400,0:50:10.480
kind of need that satisfaction from

0:50:08.400,0:50:11.520
others but can also get some help from

0:50:10.480,0:50:15.040
them as well

0:50:11.520,0:50:16.880
okay very good words of wisdom there

0:50:15.040,0:50:18.880
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0:51:52.880,0:51:57.040
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0:51:54.960,0:51:59.359
hopefully insights into tomorrow a new

0:51:57.040,0:52:01.599
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0:51:59.359,0:52:02.640
uh i think that’s it another great

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podcast

0:52:02.640,0:52:08.240
anything else before we go um

0:52:06.000,0:52:09.520
not that i know of go create something

0:52:08.240,0:52:11.839
go create something

0:52:09.520,0:52:19.839
all right bye everyone bye everyone

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another one in the books

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